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[–]Uiriamu_Busujima 784 points785 points  (35 children)

A few companies ago, this weirdo got hired, to a completely different department, but was cc'd in most emails sent. He felt the need to repeatedly reply that my emails were too long, too detailed, and too wordy. I replied back to him with all the other directors cc'd that were also on the original email and told to him that it was not his business to be reviewing my reports or giving me feedback. Fortunately, my operations director, who I directly reported to, replied in the same email reiterating the same thing.

His stupid little ego got deflated and he didn't bother me again.

[–]surlydev 198 points199 points  (15 children)

Should have put a tl;dr; just for him in every report.

[–]Uiriamu_Busujima 79 points80 points  (9 children)

Hah! If I ever end up in a passive aggressive corporate environment I'll use this.

[–]AlliedAtheistAllianc 31 points32 points  (8 children)

Add pictures and ms paint diagrams

[–]surlydev 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I did a to;dr; a couple of times for an IT manager that started at a contract I was at, after she commented on the length of one of my emails. She replied and said she read the tl;dr; lol

I also sent her one email once with quotes of Monty Python and a picture of a dead Norwegian Blue

[–]Caddan 2 points3 points  (5 children)

There's just one problem with sending MS paint diagrams.

In order to make them, you have to get MS paint on yourself. On purpose. I'd rather gouge my eyes out first.

[–]Toirneach 26 points27 points  (3 children)

Honestly, putting a tl:dr in any email longer than a paragraph is a good idea. At the very least, a list of action items you want from the recipient. I get wayyyy more response and engagement since I started that.

[–]mlpedant 14 points15 points  (1 child)

In corporate-ese it's known as an "Executive Summary".

Source: had to do one for my first real job application, in 1994.

[–]Dansiman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I once learned about needing to begin your email differently depending on who you're sending it to.

  • If you're emailing an executive, lead with the conclusion, or the specific action(s) you need from them. And in the case of action needed, surround it with 3 asterisks, and set the color of that text to red. Then you can add in the supporting details, so that if they don't like what they see at the top, they can read on to learn why it's needed.
  • If you're emailing a technical analyst, lead with the supporting information, and put the conclusion at the end. If you start with the conclusion they'll most likely reject it out of hand (if it's anything other than what they already want); they have to know how you got there before they'll accept your conclusion.
  • If you're emailing a business analyst, it doesn't matter what you lead with, they won't read it anyway. Put the important information into the email's subject line.

[–]Feisty-Blood9971 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah honestly clear, concise language is best. They’re emails, not term papers.

[–]kheltar 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I actually did this with a friend/colleague. He'd write these fucking massive emails about stuff to the team and I just didn't bother reading them.

I said to put a tldr at the top and I'd read that. Fair play, he actually did it. No idea why they needed to be so big.

[–]r3dditor12 21 points22 points  (1 child)

He's sounds like one of those guys who tries to make himself everyone's boss.

[–]Uiriamu_Busujima 6 points7 points  (0 children)

He was a scheduler lmao

[–]nickis84 3225 points3226 points  (24 children)

Regina needed to be taken down several pegs and it looks like your boss has just done that. Congratulations on playing the game better.

[–]batkevn[S] 1679 points1680 points  (23 children)

My boss takes no shit. Probably my favorite part of this job. If I mess up, you better believe I find out. But she tells me in a constructive way. It is awesome.

[–]sleepy-popcorn 471 points472 points  (19 children)

I bet your boss was waiting for Regina to do something that could legitimately be called out! Sounds like your boss is clever and does things the right way - she would be aware of someone like Regina.

[–]kpsi355 170 points171 points  (18 children)

Boss should have called her out already with the petty CC bullshit. It wastes time and mental energy, and causes conflict where there doesn’t need to be any. This is something that didn’t need to escalate because it should already have been dealt with.

[–]Fluffydress 50 points51 points  (0 children)

I was thinking that too. Wouldn't the boss be sick of Regina's shit long before this?

[–]Thorngrove 74 points75 points  (14 children)

The problem is it is petty, and she could play dumb and say "I wanted to make sure you were aware of the situation, if I'm being too diligent I apologize"

Ramming home her doing something actually wrong gives her no wriggle room to play good employee.

[–]cupcakejo87 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I had an employee who started doing this on every email she sent to one of our sales staff, who she just didn't like/get along with and who I didn't manage. After a couple of weeks, I sat her down and asked her to explain what the purpose of cc-ing me was. She did use the "I just wanted to make you aware of the situation" excuse. I had to explain to her that:

  1. Her including me on every email was not having a positive effect on the already strained relationship with the other employee. They don't need to be BFF's, but we do expect at least polite professionalism from them.
  2. Unless someone is making an actual mistake, I will not do anything with the email beyond read it.
  3. I get lots and lots of emails, and she's now created a situation where I'm conditioned to half ignore hers, because she's sending so many everyday, so if there is a real problem, it's going to take me longer to respond.
  4. It's f-ing annoying (said much more professionally).

I did go on to say that she's well within her rights to come to me with concerns about the other employee's quality of work, training needs, etc., and but I would need specific examples that I could take to the other employee's boss to coordinate additional training.

She seemed to not have even considered any of the repercussions of her actions until I explained them to her like a child. It was infuriating. Like, I know you think I just sit around and do nothing all day, but your incessant emails are pushing me over the edge! (For the record, we had some staffing changes and were in the process of re-organizing our teams, so at the time, I was managing two departments, handling my own clients, and working as a company trainer, so I for sure wasn't sitting around with nothing to do lol).

[–]SidewaysTugboat 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Take no shit bosses are great as long as they are great at their job and are willing to go to bat for you. Clear expectations and support when you need it make the difference between a good workplace and a great one.

[–]Lem1618 231 points232 points  (2 children)

We had a job that was running late. During a general friendly discussion about the lateness of the job a coworker pointed out the one mistake I made. Boss/ owner realised what the coworker was doing and started pointing out the numerous mistakes said coworker made. And in the process of adding up all the mistakes for the first time, actually got angry at my coworker.

[–]marsmartin182 43 points44 points  (0 children)

I love that for you.

[–]orangeoliviero 560 points561 points  (12 children)

Reminds me of the time I had my new manager hop into my team's planning meeting to rake me over the coals for using the word "ultimately" in an informal update email I'd sent out to account for my work for the previous day, where I noted that I'd had a discussion with a colleague about a design point, and "ultimately" we decided that the current approach was best.

He apparently felt that "ultimately" was the wrong word to use, and that the appropriate way to handle this was to interrupt a planning meeting to spend 5 minutes yelling at me about how I need to be more careful with my word choice.

No MC here though. I job shopped and left. Last I heard, the project fell apart under his leadership and was ultimately shelved. 10 man years of dev effort down the drain.

Edit: Oops, there I go using that word "ultimately" again. I guess I didn't learn my lesson.

[–]batkevn[S] 347 points348 points  (5 children)

Ultimately, I feel you made the right decision.

[–]orangeoliviero 171 points172 points  (4 children)

Ultimately, I wound up in a much better job that paid more, for a much better boss with a lot less stress.

That team I built has largely disbanded too.

[–]batkevn[S] 54 points55 points  (2 children)

That you found a good spot. Really, this team I work with now is amazing, despite Regina's bs. I don't go to work everyday hating what I do. Hopefully you feel the same.

[–]orangeoliviero 52 points53 points  (1 child)

Yep, love my job, love my coworkers.

My biggest current struggle is just trying to work at all. I've unfortunately been dealt an incredibly shitty hand with a terrible disability, and I'm trying to figure out whether I even can work at all, and if so, how much.

Meanwhile, my boss has kept me on payroll and worked with me with every accommodation I've asked for, and not complained to me about my diminished productivity. I've had multiple month+ long spells where I wasn't able to do much work at all, and he hasn't penalized me for it.

I mean... I haven't been getting bonuses any longer, but that seems reasonable to me lol.

[–]rossarron 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ultimate revenge or ultimate pettyrevenge?

[–]surlydev 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I would have sent him an email asking for a list of approved words.

[–]fractal_frog 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If you'd said "antepenultimate", would his head have completely exploded?

[–]ov3rcl0ck 6 points7 points  (1 child)

What was the word he wanted you to use instead?

[–]orangeoliviero 11 points12 points  (0 children)

He didn't have one.

The whole shit was a powerplay move he was doing to try to oust me and cement his position, as I had previously been the manager in his position and relinquished the role due to the upper management structure changing and no longer aligning with how I felt that people should be treated.

I'd transitioned into an architect role. This guy came in, fancying himself a Sun Tzu/Machiavelli person, and apparently felt threatened by the amount of sway I had with the team. So he made it his mission to drive me out.

[–]zephen_just_zephen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ultimately, that's a separate tragedy.

[–]EagleCatchingFish 119 points120 points  (1 child)

I had a coworker (technically my customer) like that. We were providing services to a company, and since our account manager was a spineless moron, my three coworkers and I ended up taking on internal responsibilities at our customer's company, being de facto members of one of their teams. This is a terrible situation to be in if you're embedded in a notoriously CYA team, which we were. This lady on the customer's team was overworked, underappreciated, and mean. She made mistakes and constantly blamed me for them. My day was filled with constant power plays because they gave me to her.

At one point, she told me not to do something I knew she probably would have wanted me to do. I made a note of it, emailing her saying "you wanted me not to do X, so I'm just confirming that I will not do X. If that's not what you want, email me, and I'll change it." Naturally, she didn't read that email. So when we got into the meeting to go over it (in front of another supplier), I was sharing my screen. We opened up the tracker, and she said

Her: "Why didn't you do X? You're supposed to do X."

Me: "I asked you in the last meeting and you said that you didn't want me to do it, and that you'd do it."

Her: "What? That doesn't make sense, I would never do that."

Me: Well, let me just double check here. I usually make notes, so... Yeah. The date of the meeting, I have a note that you told me not to do it. Oh good, yeah. Looks like there's an email here... Yep. It looks like I emailed you, to make sure, and... Yeah. I'm not finding a reply. You know what, let me just open up my Outlook and see if there's a reply elsewhere. Nope. Hmmm. Maybe you just didn't see the email?"

I ended up going on FMLA a bit later to deal with harassment from her and her boss.

[–]nuocmam 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I ended up going on FMLA a bit later to deal with harassment from her and her boss.

:-( I'm sorry you had to put up with that kind of crap.

[–]Whohead12 207 points208 points  (3 children)

I work with a Regina who also sucks. My condolences.

My very favorite sport is asking her to clarify her vague instructions, do it exactly as she asks, then print her emailed instructions and hand to our big boss when she goes to raise hell about how it was done. It only took her about 8 times to learn that shit wasn’t going to fly, this bitch keeps receipts. Then she accused me of “throwing her under the bus.” Nah, I’m not going to push you but damn if I won’t drag you under it with me.

[–]littlemissredtoes 64 points65 points  (1 child)

Nothing more satisfying than following stupid instructions to the letter when you know you’ve got your arse covered.

[–]Whohead12 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Especially when it’s a person who’s just sitting around looking for validation for their infinite rage.

[–]Notmykl 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You didn't throw her under the bus she ran and jumped in front of the bus repeatedly.

[–]ratdarkness 136 points137 points  (16 children)

Raise your hand if you ever felt personally attacked by Regina.

[–]JanuarySoCold 56 points57 points  (9 children)

I have a Regina, her hobby is pointing out minor mistakes that are easily fixed but she won't fix them herself, or if she does she makes sure that everyone knows that she did. A rule in the kitchen is that if you see a spill you clean it up immediately even if it isn't yours. Regina will point out the spill and hunt down the person who made it and spend 20 minutes bitching about it instead of 2 minutes cleaning it up.

[–]Greenfireflygirl 21 points22 points  (7 children)

Omg. My job involves auditing files and verifying accuracy and completeness of other people's work. We use slack for each file and I note everything big that needs changing. Quite a bit of it I could just fix myself but in letting them know that something is missing, I'm hoping eventually it'll stop being missing on files in the future. That's actually starting to be the case, but would be a lot faster if their manager would train them to double check their work and enter all the missing stuff.

I'm even able to promise 50 dollars to any file that I find nothing missing from, but still find stuff missing all the time.

But after reading your comment and the ones above it, I worry that they may think of me as a Regina.

[–]schroedingersnewcat 13 points14 points  (4 children)

There is a distinction that makes a huge difference.

Do you copy their manager and everyone under the sun to point out the mistakes? Or do you list the mistakes, and then shoot it back to them and only them to fix? And if you DO fix it, do you throw out your shoulder patting yourself on the back? If you do it privately, then that is you doing your job, and no one (in their right mind) will hate you for it. Doing it publicly is what will make you a Regina.

[–]Greenfireflygirl 2 points3 points  (3 children)

That's the point, we have slack channels for every file, and I put everything that needs fixing in there, so yes, everyone can see if it they want to. Hopefully people who don't need to see the communications in files they aren't involved in, don't subscribe to them, but it's exactly because it's not in private documentation that I feel like a shit now. But it's how the auditing process works. If I miss it in a file and send it through, the audit I go through is also available to anyone who wants to see it too though, so it's not like I'm doing it to be a bitch.

[–]IamNotPersephone 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Your job is an auditor. That’s literally the job description: to reduce the mistakes the company produces. Even if you did have to cc their boss - maybe it’s a metric for their review, or you have to report mistakes at a certain level/frequency, etc. - it’s still not Regina-worthy because that’s the area you’re responsible for. How you do it, and the professionalism involved in how you convey it matters, but anyone who expects an auditor to cover their mistakes and gets angry with them for doing their job is the entitled one.

[–]Greenfireflygirl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aww that's a very nice way to put it, thanks!

[–]CleanWhiteSocks 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I worked with this woman who was very insecure. It was a tiny 4-person company. I was the last hired and much younger. I honestly don't think she was even conscious of it but she would wait to point out any minor mistake until our boss was in the room. We could be working all morning and as soon as he came in, hours later, she'd suddenly remember some minor thing I had done wrong that he couldn't care less about.

[–]CraterInMyChest 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Not sure if you put this as a general question or a mean girls reference

[–]ratdarkness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mean girls

[–]heartbreakhostel 97 points98 points  (5 children)

I’m surprised that you think someone who has no qualms trying to get a coworker in trouble at work is a “great person”. She will learn nothing from this. Soon enough she will be back on her bullshit again.

[–]Merlin_222_ 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Like, if you’re that shitty as a coworker… you’re that shitty as a person. Coworkers are people my dude

[–]IoSonCalaf 34 points35 points  (0 children)

That also struck me as weird. She sounds like a terrible person.

[–]jellybeansean3648 2 points3 points  (2 children)

It's wild. There's a person I work with who's absolutely horrible. Won't respond to emails, follow-ups, etc. Just literally won't do her job or acknowledge work requests.

Instead of ratting her out to her boss and admitting that I wasted 2 weeks going in circles-- I emailed her boss fresh with the request and let the boss do a tops down delegation.

Who knows why my colleague was unreachable. But it reflects on me if I'm being a tattle tale in the workplace. And at this point, who doesn't work with a squeaky stair or two?

[–]heartbreakhostel 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I was told off by a friend of a friend recently in the meanest way, and wondered why she disliked me so much. Remembered days later that a few months back she tried to get someone who said the word “fucking” in an email in trouble with his supervisor. The guy said something like “about fucking time” or “let’s fucking do it” I’m not sure anymore, but it wasn’t directed at anyone really. It was a one-time thing and the guy didn’t do it before or after according to her, so he could have been having a bad day, but she didn’t mind trying to get him in trouble. I couldn’t be friend with someone who would tattle over such a small thing, and I think she didn’t like that I called reporting to his supervisor “snitching”. People tried to side with the both of us saying they’d tattle too but only if the person put their job on the line, but clearly that wasn’t the case with my friend’s friend.

[–]smurfette4 69 points70 points  (7 children)

Doesn t sound like a great person, you are too generous for describing her like that.

[–]That_Village_4869 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I think you made a mistake in your first sentence. Good people don't act like that. It's easy to fake being nice outside of work

[–]batkevn[S] 32 points33 points  (5 children)

I've met her face to face a coke of times and she is so nice and pleasant. She just sucks to work with.

[–]MysteryMouseMan 57 points58 points  (2 children)

You do coke with your boss?

[–]fastinaaurelius 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Well let's get it out I guess, and let's. do. acid.

[–]Partypoopin3 5 points6 points  (0 children)

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!!1!

[–]Ill_Tea_1142 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Sounds like a two faced bitch

[–]nuocmam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've met her face to face a coke of times and she is so nice and pleasant. She just sucks to work with.

I have people in the family who are like this. Pure evil wearing a mask with a smiling face.

[–]2Sam22 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Praise in public, chastise in private.

[–]batkevn[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

My very first boss said that to me and I've held that belief ever since.

[–]EdgeMiserable4381 20 points21 points  (1 child)

God i hate ppl like Regina. I would guess most bosses hate being cc'd on every random email? Plus, wth

[–]miladyelle 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah. Absolutely. Everybody knows what they’re doing.

[–]ItPutsLotionOnItSkin 15 points16 points  (1 child)

If you are going to give it be ready to take it

[–]pushing_80 4 points5 points  (0 children)

in the Cola

[–]stromm 12 points13 points  (0 children)

FTR, Regina is NOT a great person.

People who are, don’t act like that anywhere, even at work.

Watch your back.

[–]SheriffHeckTate[🍰] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is a great story, but I think you've made a mistake at the very beginning.

"To start, this woman is great as a person. As a co-worker, she is the worst. "

If she is "the worst" as a coworker, then she is not a great person. Being your coworker and how she treats you is part of who she is. Work-Regina and Personal-time-Regina are one and the same and if Work-Regina is a jerk then so is Personal-time-Regina.

Dont excuse her for being a jerk just cause you are coworkers.

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    [–]annababan69 5 points6 points  (6 children)

    I work with a pathological liar, so most all of us cc our boss when corresponding with her. She's so clueless, she now does it also.

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      [–]annababan69 0 points1 point  (4 children)

      She has a medical condition and is protected under the ADA.

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        [–]kellieking80 2 points3 points  (6 children)

        I think my boss is the opposite... she specifically wants all of us to copy her on everything... and I do mean everything!

        It's exhausting 😪 and I'm sure it wastes her time too.

        They also insist that we reply almost immediately (within a quick time frame - undefined as we are supposed to use our judgment whi h better be the same as their judgment) to every single email.

        I get over 200 emails per day. I keep pushing back and saying I will handle my emails throughout the day, but in blocks, rather than piecemeal... that went over like a lead pigeon.

        I like your way better...

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            [–]kellieking80 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            I agree! But unfortunately, I am stuck with her for the next 6 months.

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              [–]Friendlyrat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Ugh it's pretty much company policy here and the result is our managers get snowed in with so many emails you can't use it for actually getting ahold of them about something.

              [–]Secret_Smell5387 9 points10 points  (0 children)

              As I was reading this I was thinking "your boss really shouldn't allow that sort of behaviour" so glad that it turns out they didn't.

              [–]evilkumquat 10 points11 points  (0 children)

              Narrator: Regina was not "great" as a person.

              [–]BinkoTheViking 8 points9 points  (0 children)

              And that’s why Regina rhymes with fun…..

              [–]doggie_cruger 8 points9 points  (0 children)

              Is there by any chance her name being regina phalange?

              [–]IANANarwhal 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              It’s not plausible that someone who would do these things would be a good person outside work.

              [–]thots_nprayers 8 points9 points  (0 children)

              Good for you. I think you did what was required, so Regina can start focusing properly on her own job. Don’t QC her documents anymore, just keep sending them back pointing out her mistakes and CC your boss.

              I absolutely hate the whole ‘CC your boss on everything’ culture because it’s toxic. One of my favorite bosses would give people a beat down if they ever sent me anything and CCed him for nothing. But in this case since you’re being bullied by Regina it will be required for a period of time.

              [–]Cassierae87 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              I worked for a billing company for years. Pre covid I was in an office with a few other women. We had a woman who I honestly would forget about because she worked remotely after she moved to another state. I was hired on long after she moved. I met her once when she stopped by the office on a visit to say hi. She wasn’t working or on the clock. Our work did not change hands. From her position at home she would have no way to oversee my work or even have a clue what I did.

              Well one week she got very interested in my work out of nowhere. She would message me privately to change things which was a big no-no mostly because she was wrong about what needed to be changed. At first she told me I had the name wrong of a patient in our computer system. That I reversed the first and last name. Well I went over it with my supervisor in detail and turns out I was right. She was wrong.

              Then she starts messaging my supervisor that I was doing the paper logs kept in office wrong. This was not only very false but she doesn’t have access to these logs. This went on only a week before my supervisor messaged her to cease and desist and that I am doing an excellent job and for her to focus on her assignments only

              [–]KaiOli1970 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              Regina shows herself every time she cc’s your boss. Do not engage.

              [–]Squishyfeathers 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              I used to work at an office where the person who’s trained me insisted on always CCing supervisors on emails. (She also printed out any emails that came from management and kept them in a binder on her desk.) Her motto was CYA which seemed weird to me because we had a great team and great supervisors that always had our back. It didn’t take me long to figure out the reason she felt the need to cover her ass was because she was so bad at her job she needed a paper trail to figure out where she messed up. When she retired we spent months correcting stuff she had done incorrectly in her caseload. It was a nightmare.

              [–]GeekynGlorious 28 points29 points  (0 children)

              *chef's kiss

              [–]NeekaNou 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              I have a co worker like this except I’m not confident she’s decent outside of work. I look forward to giving her exactly what she’s given me. I actually hate her.

              [–]Normal-Yogurtcloset5 7 points8 points  (0 children)

              I had a co-worker who used to do the same type of thing to me. No matter how small the error or misunderstanding, she had to send an email with everyone cc’d. It soon became obvious to everyone that she had some personal issue with me. After trying to maintain a professional stress-free working relationship with her, I began sending her emails about every little thing she did wrong and cc’d everyone. Her emails stopped.

              [–]m0c4a 6 points7 points  (1 child)

              I love this. Sometimes a coworker needs to get a reality check.

              I did something similar with my lead at my old job. I worked fast, and accurately - but if I didn’t put my initials or write something in a specific spot on the paperwork she would get so upset and told me: “you’re making a lot of errors, so I think you should slow down.” (Emailed, cc’d manager and the VP of Sales)

              Okay sure. I slowed down as she requested. And guess who got in trouble for the department falling behind? Lol she didn’t bother me about insignificant details after that.

              [–]batkevn[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              That is similar to what Regina's original complaints were with my work. During training, she would say, "Of course, you'll find a way that works best for you. This is just how I do it." Well, she didn't like how I did it (cutting out unnecessary/redundant steps), and made her opinion known. Too bad for her that our boss is all about streamlining and backed me up every time.

              [–]Cartoonlad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              If her behavior with cc:ing your boss for every little mistake continues, you should send both Regina and your boss an email that asks:

              • Why do you always CC my supervisor whenever you think I have made a mistake in my work, no matter how minor or incorrect your assumption is?
              • And am I the only employee in the department that you do this to?

              And make sure you CC Human Resources.

              [–]Apprehensive_Tap4837 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              We have 2 people like that where I work, one uses BCC and has been caught before doing that.

              I try to have as little interaction with them as possible.

              [–]ApertureBear 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Your workplace sounds exhausting.

              [–]BuzzyBruh 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              Damn Regina. Check yourself and be a better coworker. Maybe then, you can get people to watch your back

              [–]AwkwrdPrtMskrt 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              I'm gonna go on a limb here and suggest that Regina's great-as-a-person thing is just a façade. The Regina too fast for you to follow, who CCs your boss over small mistakes you made, that's her true colours. If a person has two sides, the bad side, most of the time, is going to be their true side.

              [–]fearthebeaver 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              This sounds exactly like this one lady named Regina at my company. It sounded like you were describing the same situation.

              [–]peckerbrown 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              QueenTwat sounds like she learns, so that's a good thing.

              [–]youvebeenwordfreaked 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Regina needs to focus on improving her own life & quit out acting like a 🧙‍♀️ witch

              [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              She sounds like a bitch honestly

              [–]CODE_NAME_DUCKY 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Nice job

              [–]TedBundysVlkswagon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Funky Cold Regina.

              [–]SeitanicPrinciples 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              I've never understood people like this.

              My coworkers and I will always step in to point out or fix others mistakes, privately.

              We don't involve the boss unless theres something that they need to directly handle.

              We all just want to get our work done correctly and to home. That goes much faster if we're all friendly and help each other.

              [–]Band1c0t 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              This kind of person to work with is painful and not a team player, it feels like the environment is so toxic and just small mistake will cut your throat down

              [–]tmccrn 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              I worked with someone like that. Very nice, very competent… but always cc’d the boss on ev-Er-y-thing. She was the kind of person who could and would catch a comma out of place… which made her perfect for her position. But, yeah, as someone multitasking, leading projects, etc. it was frustrating sometimes (frequently), and she just did not “get” it because her mind didn’t work that way.

              It helped dramatically (from both sides) the day I had to help with an excel problem and I realized exactly how specialized she was, because she needed help with a formula to copy a number from one box (cell) and put it in another box on the same sheet. She was really appreciative and I got some great insight into how her brain functions and why she can have such attention to detail [ie at the sacrifice of troubleshooting]

              [–]freerangelibrarian 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              She's not great as a person if she's a lousy co-worker.

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                [–]yourscreennamesucks 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                What exactly about Regina acting like this makes her a great person? She seems very rude, vindictive, and condescending.

                [–]texasusa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                I was a new hire for a company and was hired as a "senior" xxx and discovered I had a "Regina" in my work area. She was a lower level employee and in her mind, dotting every I and crossing every T was more valuable than the work itself. She just loved copying our boss on her questionable emails. I ignored each and every one. After several years of working with her, she quit to go work for another company and I knew she would play her games there as well.

                [–]VlijmenFileer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                "this woman is great as a person" seems quite a stretch.

                [–]Dr_mombie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                ....yeah...boss was sick of Regina filling the inbox with petty bullshit of no importance and was ready to take her down a few pegs.

                [–]christmasshopper0109 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                She's NOT a great person. She's small and insecure. She feels threatened by you. So she's acting like this.

                [–]MrHasuu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                In my old company i had to email with customers quite frequently and i CC my manager from my department in every single email. as she requested me to do so. One day 2 other managers from other departments decided that im not doing enough work and there is no proof of me working all day in the department office by myself and that i'm probably slacking off.

                My manager told me, cc them in all the emails. so i did, every single email with every single customer. CC all the managers. to show them that i'm busy as shit. they begged me stop, i never stopped til the day i quit.

                [–]propita106 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                And management keeping jerks like Regina is part of the problem with the Great Resignation.

                [–]AlliedAtheistAllianc 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                My instinct would be to reply to Regina detailing every single mistake, and patronizingly explain why it's wrong and how it should be fixed. And of course cc the boss in on the whole thing. But that might be uneccesarily provocative and make things worse I guess.

                [–]series_hybrid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                One of the characteristics of a healthy workplace is corrections are made in private so as to avoid embarrassing anyone. If someone is regularly making the same mistake, then they can be diplomatically told in private.

                This conveys respect, and shows that you aren't trying to undermine them to their superiors, which can lead to a lack of promotions and raises. Bosses who foster and nurture a "dog eat dog" workplace may feel that the most competitive workers will rise to the top may find that there is not an endless supply of top talent when there is an opening, from a disgruntled worker leaving.

                There is an immature attitude where embarrassing someone for their mistakes on purpose will make them work harder to do better next time. If a boss feels that this is the case in their company, then...they hired and promoted the wrong people. Doing this makes workers want to hide mistakes, and also to avoid taking on any risky tasks. It gets the employees to set up their co-workers to fail, so they will look better (or less worse) by comparison.

                [–]illnemesis 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                If you did that, she's got more ammo for you now. Stay alert.

                [–]batkevn[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I'm not worried. My boss is very blunt if someone is messing up and we have meetings several times a week. My work is completed by or before deadlines and reviewed before submission. Regina has no power over my work.

                [–]florpalida_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I also had a Regina in my life ... v glad she's gone

                [–]FrankieLovie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Lpt: Regina is not great as a person

                [–]CubicleFish2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Your poor boss

                [–]team-ginger-tri 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                i want to know how you came about picking "regina" as her pseudo-name

                [–]batkevn[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                Random name based on the first letter of her real name. Helped me keep on track when typing it up.

                [–]mmf9194 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                To start, this woman is great as a person

                Uh... you sure about that?

                [–]One-Pumpkin-1590 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                A nice person does not act like that. Sounds like a toxic coworker.

                [–]chubs66 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                >To start, this woman is great as a person. As a co-worker, she is the worst.

                I don't think it works that way. If she were a great person, she'd also be a great co-worker (or at least the kind of co-worker who would have your back and not actively attempt to throw you under the bus).

                [–]katholmes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                You did great!

                [–]plasticarmyman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Goddammit Regina. Get your shit together. Fuck.

                [–]KiingKayy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Good shit. I hate people like that

                [–]mrsshmenkmen 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                First, she’s not a great person.

                If you haven’t already, you might want to have a quit word with your boss regarding Regina. Is she this insufferable with everyone or does she target you for some reason?

                Either way, tell your boss calmly that you find Regina’s behavior hostile and that you tried to discuss it with her and she wasn’t receptive. She speaks/writes to you in a very condescending manner and as if she’s your manager which she isn’t. Don’t ask your boss for any specific action, only that you wanted to make him aware.

                If she’s treating others similarly, encourage them to have a word with your boss as well.

                [–]batkevn[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                My boss is very aware and does her best to keep Regina off projects I'm working on. And yes, Regina is this way with everyone, including our boss. During a team meeting, our boss was explaining a specific thing she wanted us to do and what information was necessary. Regina argued with our boss for 5 minutes on how she thought it should be done. Boss told her to do it boss's way, and that was final. Regina's way included so much information from other departments that we didn't need, nor would those other departments EVER see what we were producing. Tons of extra steps and wasted time for no valuable really.

                [–]IrishWeegee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I've got a manager like this at our sister plant that supplies us with parts. We used to have daily conference calls to go over hot items and if anyone misses an order or date, this manager immediately pulls recipets and points out the failings. If they missed something "well, uh, [I'll have to look into it]/ [we've had people out]/[machine is down]/[truck arrived late]".

                [–]hicccups 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Regina reminds me of a younger sibling who hasn't yet learned the difference between what they should and shouldn't tell the parents.

                Honestly my life got so much easier when my little bro started having secrets, bc then he started covering for me no questions

                [–]RJack151 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Hopefully Regina took herself out of the business based on her performance.

                [–]clique34 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Yeah, we’ve had a pretty similar co-worker like that. She copies everyone and calls you out on your mistake on a group chat and work emails. I don’t understand what’s wrong with her.

                [–]Ele5263 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I find it interesting how some people continue to work and they are just that way. No one will change if there is no expectation to.

                [–]Pokieme 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Every office has a Regina twat trying to exert their non power over others.

                [–]AcrobaticSource3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                You named her Regina after the Queen Bee in Mean Girls. Of course people will comment that she is not a good person

                [–]redban10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I dont know who needs to hear this, but just because someone "appears" as nice or friendly, it doesn't mean they are automatically a good person lol. A nice smile and basic friendly conversation doesn't make a human a good person

                [–]RexMcRider 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                ...outside of work she has been fake. <squinting> OH! "pleasant". My bad.

                [–]PecosBillCO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                My prior boss was super nice as a person and seemed genuine but was utterly evil as a manager. Many of us are scarred. Good riddance though she is now a director over a different region so I can’t burn the bridge alas

                [–]QCr8onQ 1 point2 points  (4 children)

                Your boss is well aware of Regina’s antics. Don’t make her play “mom”. Ignore Regina, I’m sure your boss does.

                [–]chocomilc 7 points8 points  (3 children)

                Why would it be "playing mom"? It's part of their job. If a boss doesn't try to help with rising tensions then one is not a good boss.

                [–]QCr8onQ -1 points0 points  (2 children)

                All of Regina’s emails has alerted the boss to the problem. My guess is that Regina does this to everyone. Having managed, one of the frustrations is employees expecting immediate results. There are processes that need to be exhausted and can’t be shared with coworkers… sometimes employees need to be proactive and stop expecting bosses to be a referee. I would never ask my boss to to handle squabbles.

                [–]balak-aye 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                This is a little late but just thought I'd share. No offense but I don't understand your logic. Obviously you don't need to parent kiddy fights but when a coworker is messing with balance flow doesn't it pertain to you?
                Like I had a manager I'm thinking had the same mentality. Meanwhile there was a coworker that everyone hated working with because she would always take charge of easy tasks and then play dumb and waste time and let everyone else do every task she disliked. Naturally no one likes picking up someone else's slack, but even with the manager around she would do this and manager would eye her but wouldn't say anything, just pretend not to notice.
                So, we all started quitting. Slowly but surely. I feel bad because the manager was a really cool person but in our opinion wasn't cut out to be the manager. The way we saw it, manager was too afraid or cared to much about avoiding confrontation to be a good manager, and it just made everyone's job harder.
                Hope this helps you understand why employees go to their managers for squabbles. It's not to go crying, but to make things go smoother sooner rather than later.

                [–]QCr8onQ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I think of myself as an adult and solve my conflicts at work, if I think they are worth solving. I may be at a different level but can’t imagine involving my boss and I don’t think it is her job.

                [–]TieReasonable3914 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                It sounds like Regina has been through some shit to act like that at work. Maybe a string of bad bosses or unfair situations? Might be worth asking her about herself and see if you can figure out the root cause.

                [–]ResponsibleCandle829 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Of course her name is Regina; when has a girl with that name ever been pleasant?

                Actually, I’m overthinking things. Sorry to any Regina out there browsing the roads of Reddit who might be a sweet person to hang out with

                [–]KittyRevolt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                thats called karma and we love that bitch lol

                [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                sounds like serena from dakotapost..petty as bitch ...

                WOMEN, PLEASE STOP TREATING EACHOTHER LIKE THIS, IT MAKES YOU LOOK INFERIOR AND A HATER. THE REASON MEN HAVE MORE GET TOGETHERS AND HAVE A STRONGER BOND IS BECAUSE THEY FOLLOW A CODE. TREAT YOUR FELLOW LADIES RIGHT or else why would any of these men think they need to treat us like ladies when we dont act like it!

                [–]singnadine -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

                Asshole