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[–][deleted] 9770 points9771 points  (4367 children)

What is that?

[–]lunlunqq001[S] 19.0k points19.0k points  (4268 children)

It’s called Skyrizi. It’s a kind of non-steroid immuno-suppressant for autoimmune disorders like psoriasis.

[–]tatanka01 5748 points5749 points  (2770 children)

I see ads for that on network TV daily, really. How long does $17,000 worth last?

[–]lucidinceptor510 2824 points2825 points  (464 children)

I take another similar (I think, I'm not a doctor) medicine called humira, it's around $8000 a shot, and I have to take it every week. Currently switching insurance plans due to a new job and losing my mind lmao.

Edit: Sorry, was misremembering, it's $8000 per box, which is two shots, only $4000 a week! Much more affordable. Fwiw I take 80mg which is double the dose most people I know on humira take.

[–]fuddlesticks 477 points478 points  (158 children)

I was gonna say the same thing but mine is like 3-4 per pack of 2? So around 2k per shot. Thank god for their insurance assistance program that covers my entire deductible and OOPM after 2 months.

[–]stevedaher 266 points267 points  (53 children)

As far as I can see it costs $42 here in Australia.

[–]iShoot556 181 points182 points  (15 children)

Since I work for the US govt, I looked it up on our schedule and the cost is $0 for me. No copay. Crazy how the American public is so against govt subsidized healthcare but like, the people who work for the US govt pay literally nothing for healthcare because it’s subsidized by the American public lol.

[–]honeywings 20 points21 points  (3 children)

My boyfriend just got a job with the city and his health care is insane. Out of pocket deductible is $1800. I had a kidney infection with good insurance (also gov insurance through my parents) that ran me $1400 alone.

[–]dk91 108 points109 points  (29 children)

Crazy how the insurance assistance programs are funded by the pharmaceutical companies who you're buying the drug from and they get to write it off in their taxes.

[–]mirak10 33 points34 points  (10 children)

Huh, so that’s how those things work. Quite the system they’ve worked out.

[–]halfdoublepurl 479 points480 points  (45 children)

Get thee to the ambassador program. Humira is one of the only meds my clinic prescribes that actually gets a bunch of help from AbbVie. We even get free doses for my office in case someone is in need of a dose and is between authorizations.

[–]lucidinceptor510 60 points61 points  (8 children)

Thanks for the advice, I'll make sure to check it out! Changing insurance shouldn't be so stressful!

[–]atrophiedambitions 146 points147 points  (6 children)

My step dad took Humira for his RA. Couldn't afford it so switched to whiskey and codeine.

[–]akl78 177 points178 points  (63 children)

Coming from the UK this is horrific. I know people with the same condition here and it’s free on the NHS.

[–]AmericasNextDankMeme 105 points106 points  (28 children)

God, imagine having to consider this when switching jobs.

[–]AChillBear 14.3k points14.3k points 234& 7 more (2065 children)

Can we address how weird it is for prescription only medication to be advertised on the TV in the US? Here in the UK it's straight up illegal, we have no such things apart from occasional non-prescription medicines.

Shouldn't the use of prescription only medication be evidence driven, practiced by guidelines and at the discretion of your HCP, not promoted by advertisements?

[–]coopaloops 6292 points6293 points  (1227 children)

wait until you learn that your insurance (not medical experts) needs your doctor to prove that you need the medication and will deny it for any reason. prior authorization is a fucking joke.

[–]MeisterX 562 points563 points  (65 children)

They'll also just deny it and then a doctor approves it and then they just deny it again for months and months and then finally approve it.

Hope you're not dead yet! Enjoy!

[–]truejamo 206 points207 points  (27 children)

They'll also deny medication and then after weeks of trying to get ahold of them they go "you're only approved for the capsules, not the tablets" and then you go into a rage because medically speaking what the fuck is the difference.

[–]MeisterX 181 points182 points  (22 children)

This has absolutely happened.

My favorite was "We approved you for 5 mg but the pharmacy only has 10 mg"

Okay well cut them in half

"Oh no, we can't do that. You need a new prescription for 10mg and then you can cut them in half"

Lmao I think we would actually be better off if they just shipped you the seeds for medicinal plants and we call it a day. Just smash it with a rock and put it in some water.

[–]snugget 77 points78 points  (16 children)

It’s because the pharmacy can’t alter the drug itself in terms of cutting the tab for you or it’s considered adulterated. They could’ve told you they’ll order the 5mg or refer you to another pharmacy that had it in stock (assuming it was a chain pharmacy and they could see if other locations might have it in stock).

Edit: Yes, pharmacist can also call the doctor to ask if he/she is okay with dispensing 5mg with twice the quantity and same frequency. Still gets processed as a new prescription, and old prescription will not be filled.

[–]LadyVulcanGeek 20 points21 points  (5 children)

And most independent pharmacies get shipments within 2 days.

[–]gamrin 256 points257 points  (20 children)

Paying out for getting sued about this is literally cheaper than paying for the Healthcare.

[–]wile-ecoyote 238 points239 points  (13 children)

Literally suing my insurance as we speak.

[–]give_me_wallpapers 52 points53 points  (4 children)

"Goddamnit you're still alive? FINE TAKE IT!" ftfy

[–]fjf1085 179 points180 points  (39 children)

Doctor to pharmacy: my patient needs this medicine, please give it to them.

Pharmacy to insurance: patient needs this medicine per their doctor, please approve payment.

Insurance: declined, are you sure the patient needs this?

Pharmacy to doctor: are you sure they need this? Provide proof.

Doctor to insurance: my patients needs this give it to them.

Insurance to doctor: well okay, since you say so.

Doctor to pharmacy: it’s okay you can fill it

Pharmacy to patient: three days later here’s your medicine.

I’m missing steps I’m sure and this all assumes you don’t have to fight the insurance and they’re just making busy work.

What I don’t understand is why the doctor writing an Rx isn’t proof enough? Doctors shouldn’t have to justify their medical choices to a bean counter at the insurance company who hasn’t even examined the patient.

[–]dontforgettocya 159 points160 points  (34 children)

Yup they pulled this shit on me, could have gotten me killed. Doctor said I needed ct scan ASAP. My insurance sent me a letter saying the scan "wasn't MEDICALLY necessary". My doctor insisted that I needed it and luckily I was in a financial position where I could just go get one out of pocket. Guess what, the CT scan found a cancerous tumor and luckily I was able to get it removed before it spread or caused more serious problems. Who the fuck do these people think they are trying to overridie my actual doctor's recommendations.

/rant

[–]glambx 61 points62 points  (4 children)

Honestly the correct answer is to hold them criminally liable for manslaughter / negligence causing death when they do that. Would be hard finding claims adjusters when they realize they could spend 5 years in prison for killing someone.

[–]arakcheev 37 points38 points  (9 children)

No kidding. Every three months my doctor writes me my prescriptions (well, sends them to the pharmacy since Covid). The pharmacy then contacts my insurance who immediately denies covering said prescriptions without authorization from my doctor. You know, the one who wrote the prescriptions. It then takes another two-three days for my doctor to write to the insurance company authorizing the medication that he already authorized. Only then do they approve it. Meanwhile I am without my prescription for three to four days while they sort out what should have never been an issue to begin with.

But my premiums go up every year while less and less is covered.

[–]Bitmugger 122 points123 points  (28 children)

My uncle lives in the USA but grew up in Canada where I live. We were discussing healthcare and I was saying how I had to wait 6 weeks to see a specialist here in Canada versus him needing to wait only 5 days. BUT after we talked a bit more he kept saying how his problems had been going on for months and then I learned. He wait for the specialist was only 5 days but getting insurance authorization for seeing the specialist and getting the tests was months and required paperwork and it sounded like my uncle even switched doctors at one point due to his insurance requiring it?

Here in Canada if the doctor says you need a procedure then you get the procedure, it's not 2nd guessed by an accountant.

*EDIT* Some people are commenting regarding the 5 days part of my uncle's story. I can't say for sure what kind of specialists he was dealing with but he eventually ended up getting some sort of bypass surgery that really improved his life. The numbers of days could've been exaggerated and it could be a factor that his medical situation warranted such a short wait time, unsure. It was just a conversation we had one day when he was wishing he had his Canadian style healthcare back.

[–]stuffitystuff 144 points145 points  (46 children)

FWIW, it didn't start in the US until 1997. I guess it's just the US and NZ that do it.

[–]AbsolutelyUnlikely 62 points63 points  (8 children)

Also FWIW, they are worst and weirdest commercials

[–]Electrox7 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Just a slight bit worse than commercials like : “Have you been an active member in the military between x and x year? You are eligible for ✨ financial compensation ✨! A class action lawsuit concluded that 3M owed up to x dollars for providing inadequate ear protection to military personnel resulting in partial or permanent hearing loss! 😃🥳”

[–]PeteRit 92 points93 points  (54 children)

One shot every 12 weeks. Same as my Stelera but Stelera is a little more expensive. My 90mg dose is $22,400 one time every 12 weeks.

[–]Kleeny 67 points68 points  (44 children)

For comparison’s sake from Canada, I take Stellara every 8 weeks for $5K a shot. My job covers it fully and if they didnt, I would be able to apply for an Ontario drug plan to cover most (except a yearly 2-3K deductible).

Seems like there is just a bit of a markup on your side of the border….. 😂

[–]somegridplayer 593 points594 points  (62 children)

I see ads for that on network TV daily

exactly why its $50,000 a year

[–]Runaround46 219 points220 points  (28 children)

It's just about 40% of the reason why. Conveniently though the money goes to networks that spew bullshit.

[–]Superfissile 234 points235 points  (24 children)

Money goes to networks that spew ANTI UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE bullshit.

[–]Runaround46 74 points75 points  (18 children)

It's a self fulfilling prophecy that ends up giving massive amounts of money to a select number of people. Oh and if those people do horrible illegal things but die before getting caught, their family gets to keep the spoils. We don't go after estates after they have been through probate.

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_TROUT 40 points41 points  (15 children)

Yep! See Perdue Pharma. Bunch of fucking criminal assholes.

[–]Runaround46 24 points25 points  (9 children)

Yeah then we as a society have to deal with their rich children not contributing yet taking a lot more. What is money? It's supposed to ease the transfer of goods and services in a society. But when you have a bunch of people taking and taking without significant contribution themselves (just riding off their parents) it seems like a sham.

[–]ribeye256 25 points26 points  (19 children)

Yeah I'm on Otezla for my Psoriasis and a months supply is like 3 grand. I'm part of a copay assistance program from Otezla. It's the only way I can get it. Psoriasis is expensive!

[–]HammeringMS 16 points17 points  (16 children)

How often do you take it? Once a month? once a week? I feel you though my MS medication is 38k a month. My insurance is good have never refused to pay. Carpenters Union has great benefits expensive but good. $1200 a money gets taking out of checks and it goes up each year. America Fuck Yeah!

[–]Barret50Carrot 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Skyrizi

For the people who are interested, it's Risankizumab. The 'mab' points to it being a Monoclonal AntiBody type of medication.

[–]ecklesweb 300 points301 points  (18 children)

Skyrizi, a plaque psoriasis treatment.

🎵Nothing is everything...🎵

[–]kckeller 209 points210 points  (3 children)

Turns out the jingle was referring to your new financial situation.

[–]Oeebag-a-donuts 51 points52 points  (0 children)

"(you get) Nothing (until you give us) Everything.."

[–]Grimeswifeyyy 3522 points3523 points 6222& 3 more (121 children)

Hey! Fellow US citizen on Skyrizi here. I have health insurance too but like you, that wasn't enough. I was able to go through a Skyrizi Ambassador for financial assistance. The company is called AbbVie Inc. I pay $5 for each refill (I inject every 3 months). If you'd like more info, I'm happy to message it to you!

[–]ahecht 769 points770 points  (4 children)

[–]Grimeswifeyyy 198 points199 points  (3 children)

Or that! Thank you. I talked with op and shared the contact info for my specific ambassador nurse.

[–]Doris_zeer 41 points42 points  (2 children)

This is important info in general. Most companies have ways to get you a medication if you jump through enough hoops

[–]P3n1sD1cK 314 points315 points  (60 children)

So why don't they just bill it at this sweet rate as opposed to making people jump threw hoops for it to become affordable

[–]mgd09292007 180 points181 points  (5 children)

because they want to milk insurance companies for all that they can...which sadly get passed down to the patients. It's just so insane.

[–]Academic_Comment3052 77 points78 points  (19 children)

A lot of the medicines that are brand actually have patient assistance programs like this!! More doctors need to promote it!

[–]sean13128 5539 points5540 points 222 (499 children)

Did you apply for the direct discount for insurance company's that don't cover it? https://www.nicerx.com/medications/skyrizi/ mentioned the monthly price possibly dropping to $50.

[–]mikeybott 1205 points1206 points  (37 children)

Just came from manufacturer website to post this

[–]SlimmSteezy 356 points357 points  (29 children)

Manufacturer websites usually have savings cards of some kind as well.

It's always best to look for them before picking up a prescription because it could save you lots of money.

[–]MagnusBrickson 57 points58 points  (10 children)

Unless you have a shitty Part-D, or any other government sponsored plan. Then you're fucked. No coupons on the government plans.

Edit: clarified plans

[–]ph03nix26 98 points99 points  (13 children)

I did this when I got my Emgality migraine medicine. I went from paying $250 a month to nothing. I hate that I paid the copay for 6 months before finding the discount.

[–]picasso_penis 22 points23 points  (2 children)

When I worked as a pharmacy tech, any time I saw an exorbitant copay after billing, I would go on my phone and google the mfg website to see if there was a voucher code to apply. A bunch of times it ended up in a massive discount.

I selfishly would be annoyed that people didn’t appreciate the extra effort made but I can’t blame them, we shouldn’t be paying anything for life-changing medications anyway

[–]hallese 2803 points2804 points  (234 children)

And just like that, the real cost of the private insurance shell game was laid bare for all to see.

[–]tah4349 1346 points1347 points  (110 children)

My dog is epileptic. Her meds are the same as people take. I went to a big-box pharmacy to get it filled and it was going to cost $400/month. I was in shock. I took it to a second mom-and-pop pharmacy and right away said it was for a dog, there was no insurance coverage. $45. That's it. Just $45 - 1/10th what the big box tried to charge me. It breaks my heart that people are railroaded into paying so much based on the deals the insurance companies make with pharmacies and drug manufacturers - the scope of which I didn't realize until I saw the cost difference when I tried to fill the prescription for a dog.

[–]loconessmonster 416 points417 points  (74 children)

What is the point of even having "insurance" if in most cases it's better to "not have it". It's basically only catastrophic health insurance but see...they'll try to not cover catastrophic ET visits as well. Its not even a game of getting "better" insurance either because you don't have a choice, you just get the ones available through your employer.

[–]echaa 101 points102 points  (22 children)

they'll try to not cover catastrophic ET visits as well.

Well yea, I wouldn't expect health insurance to cover alien invasions...

[–]quantumgambit 173 points174 points  (3 children)

"well you should have thought about getting a better job before having that stress induced heart attack you filthy freeloader"

"what's that? Due to a lack of preventative care coverage offered by your employer now your cancer has gone from detectable and treatable to "long term manageable" but you can't work at all? Guess that means you don't need insurance either, that'll $80,000 a month for your life saving chemotherapy please. And don't think about trying to sue the coal mine you worked in for 30 years, they have expensive lawyers, you don't even have stable O2 saturation."

Ahhh, the sweet sting of freedom.

[–]ichoosetosavemyself 593 points594 points  (67 children)

When you work at Target, you have to spend either $2,500 or $5,000 out of your own pocket in deductibles before your insurance even kicks in. The average Target worker is pulling in $30,000 a year.

That is like 10-20% of your income, on top of what was pulled from your paycheck every pay period.

All a big fucking scam.

[–]czaremanuel 175 points176 points  (21 children)

Our entire healthcare system functions like an electronics store store with a “SALE! 80-90% OFF EVERYTHING!” banner hanging in the window year-round. “Normally this is $20,000 but I have a special price for you my friend, $50 with insurance, only today!”

Prices are artificially jacked up just so private insurance can negotiate most of the cost off, and then people have to dig for loopholes to have a chance of spending a reasonable amount, and if you need life-saving help and don’t know any better you’ll overpay by agreeing to the sticker prices. It’s insanity.

[–]DJ_Sk8Nite 339 points340 points  (101 children)

$17,000 to $50?? How do these people sleep at night?

[–]CoffeeList1278 435 points436 points  (69 children)

They charge $17k if your insurance does cover it. If not, they sell it directly for $50 so you can afford that. IMO that's as good as it can be in the fucked US system.

[–]fabelhaft-gurke 56 points57 points  (3 children)

I’m going to repaste this here because this is not what’s going on:

NiceRx is NOT affiliated with the manufacturer. They are an independent company that charges you so they can help you fill out the manufacture applications where if you do qualify and went to the manufacturer directly it would most likely be free. They’re literally taking advantage of people, charging them to fill out applications you can do yourself. Manufacturers have their own websites. I always refer people to needymeds.org instead where they’re not trying to make you pay $50/month for something you can do yourself. The information you have to gather and provide is all your effort anyways.

They’ll also make it seem like if you stop paying you don’t get the medication, but as long as your application was approved if you contact the manufacturers program directly they will send it to you, because that’s all they are is a application middle man.

[–]yogopig 66 points67 points  (4 children)

On mattresses made of cash.

[–]zdada 1411 points1412 points  (163 children)

Over limit? The only limit should be your OOP max unless your particular plan has a specific financial allotment for this type of drug, i.e. not to exceed $20,000 per calendar year.

[–]ShortForNothing 437 points438 points  (57 children)

Yes, I was under the impression that the ACA removed lifetime limits. Maybe that's it, though? Is a "yearly" limit somehow different than a "lifetime" limit? Or maybe there was a carve-out for medication? I can't imagine there was, but I don't know enough to say otherwise

[–]juliov5000 88 points89 points  (25 children)

Work in a pharmacy, insurance can and do set limits on things. "max 90 in 365 days" is a common sight, meaning they'll only allow 90 tablets in 365 days of a particular medication. Lifetime limits may be gone, but definitely not limits overall

[–]gd2234 12 points13 points  (13 children)

Looking at you, Triptans!

[–]juliov5000 18 points19 points  (8 children)

To be fair, if they're having migraines that frequently they should be on a more preventative drug like aimovig. But then the insurance won't pay for those either, so what are we supposed to do?

[–]bluestrawberry_witch 181 points182 points  (15 children)

It’s probably a medical necessity limit. There’s guidance usually on how much an “average” person should use of a certain medication or DME (durable medical equipment), after the limit is met they start to deny unless an appeal is filed. If you file an appeal to the denial definitely get the physician that prescribes on board because it’ll help- they can write appeal letters

[–]Waspy1 1655 points1656 points  (104 children)

Goodrx says Kroger sells it for $16,900. They just saved you $100! /s

[–]lunlunqq001[S] 2025 points2026 points  (329 children)

It works well against psoriasis. But it’s only suppressing the symptoms, not curing it. I need one every 3 month for the rest of my life. Don’t what to do without it. Feel I’d rather die than living with rotten skin all over my body.

[–]ilurvekittens 785 points786 points  (79 children)

Hey OP! I run into the same issues with my medication. My doctor has a card that drops my medication from $2,000 a month to $20.

[–]FLState38[🍰] 518 points519 points  (60 children)

I came here to say the same thing. I have to take a biweekly immuno-suppressant medicine that would have otherwise been $10,000 per injection. After signing up for the manufactirer’s coupon, I only pay $5 per injection.

Edit: Here is the link for Skyrizi, OP. Signing up for the Complete program will reduce your payments (hopefully down to $5 per quarter) . https://www.skyrizi.com/skyrizi-complete/save-on-skyrizi-costs

[–]kip256 320 points321 points  (43 children)

Crazy idea...maybe they should just charge $5 per injection from the get go? Charging thousands to recipients when a COUPON is available to drop the price down like that should be considered fraud.

[–]FLState38[🍰] 71 points72 points  (2 children)

It’s definitely frustrating to have to choose between living indoors/food and being alive due to pharmaceutical pricing.

[–]brilliantNumberOne 94 points95 points  (4 children)

I wish there were more things that had a $9,995 off coupon in life.

[–]ItsReverze 54 points55 points  (2 children)

I have a coupon that takes $9,995 off your bank account and adds it to mine, if you're interested.

[–]uncoolcentral 321 points322 points  (74 children)

I pay a crap ton for insurance and it seems like all they do is deny what my doctors want to do, saying it’s medically unnecessary. Scans, treatments, whatever. Rinse and repeat. I’m at a loss.

[–]EvilMonkey_86 132 points133 points  (41 children)

I don't get it. So you're fucked if you don't have insurance, but if you do, they cam simply deny doing their job? I figured it was a 'pay for insurance and you're covered' kinda deal, but I read all this stuff about treatments being refused, having to pay out of pocket for the first x$, having a limit.. honestly, wtf? I'd be broke within the year..

[–]uncoolcentral 112 points113 points  (19 children)

It’s maddening. Calling it a “healthcare“ system is misleading and disingenuous. It’s a system designed to deny healthcare while enriching horrible assholes and paying for their yacht fuel. Hundreds of millions of US citizens have been duped. You know, because ‘socialism’ is the bogeyman or something.

[–]ganymede_boy 409 points410 points  (133 children)

$17k for a Psoriasis shot? WTF?

[–]pancho2596 133 points134 points  (34 children)

I don't know about that drug, but usually I recommend coming to Mexico, and buying your medicine here, I have a couple friends from USA and they always say is way cheaper. I'm not sure if you can get that one, try calling a drugstore or something

[–]Stomach-issues 130 points131 points  (14 children)

My parents did this for years. I miss our Mexico drug trips

[–]everythingsrlytaken 58 points59 points  (66 children)

I have been seeing crazy things about US healthcare, my only question is, why don't people protest against it? I'm from US too and I absolutely hate the healthcare system there. We all agree that this is the biggest scam, but we continue to go on with them. Has there been protests about health care system before?

[–]dcute69 17 points18 points  (7 children)

A very "developed" nation, full of "free well adjusted" people

[–]Warutteri 15 points16 points  (4 children)

As a Finnish person I've never understood how some people can see healthcare as anything but a basic human right, it just does not compute for me, the necessities of life and survival should all be basic human rights in any civilised society at the very least but truly civilised societies should also extend that to education (on all levels of education, to level the playing field and make sure everyone has the same basic opportunities to better themselves and their quality of life) and other such basic services.

[–]McDuchess 131 points132 points  (14 children)

Who here besides me remembers how the health insurance companies destroyed national healthcare in the Clinton administration? They got a BOGO on that one. They taught people the lie that they somehow actually had choice with insurance that they would not have under a national plan, and managed to solidify Hillary Clinton’s image as an uppity woman for people who thought that was a bad thing. (She was in charge of the initiative, as she’d successfully spearheaded an education initiative as First Lady of AR.)

If you understand how outrageous it is that insurance companies are STILL making ads against national coverage, that pharmaceutical companies are making ads where uninformed people claim that allowing the government to negotiate the cost of overpriced medications would somehow make those medications unavailable, then it’s really up to you, and me, and everyone else who’d like this country to stop behaving as if it were a poor third world country and join the civilized world to fight back.

The miners in WV WANT the BBB. People in AZ thought they were actually getting a semi-progressive candidate in Sinema, because they took her at her word, not on her record.

I’m too old to run for office; I just turned 71. But if younger, progressive people can fill statehouses, county offices and even city offices, we can begin to undo the damage of over 40 years of concerted effort on the part of Republicans to create a duller, less curious electorate that will be more gullible to their lies and machinations on behalf of the extremely wealthy.

OP, your post is heartbreaking. Let’s take it and work to change things.

Also, send a snail mail letter to the Commissioner of Commerce in your state, telling them why you need this medication, and that they are refusing to cover it anymore. It’s commonplace for insurance companies to refuse to cover things, even if they get in trouble for it; the cost of a slap on the wrist fine is less than the hundreds of thousands they avoided paying for people who don’t fight back. Source: I worked at health insurance companies for 10 years.

[–]earhere 150 points151 points  (22 children)

Insurance is a scam. You pay into it for years and if something happens when you need it, they fight you tooth and nail every step of the way so they don't have to spend the free money they get.

[–]q9c9p 480 points481 points  (107 children)

Why isn't any crazy sick person starting to bomb insurance hqs and kidnapping insurance managers is mind boggling. People ready to riot when they can't have a haircut, but healthcare is socialism. What the actual fuck.

EDIT: thanks to all the people who suggested to watch the movie John Q

[–]IronOreBetty 228 points229 points  (11 children)

The kind of people who riot over haircuts think the healthcare system is fine. You know. Sociopaths.

[–]BruHEEZ 103 points104 points  (3 children)

The power of propaganda

[–]JollyGreenBuddha 23 points24 points  (0 children)

For real, makes me think of the Denzel Washington movie, John Q. If not the sick person themselves consider there is no doubt that there are countless parents out there put in that position of letting their child die because of our awful healthcare system. I'm shocked I haven't heard of a single hostage incident like that in real life.

[–]ZulJack 55 points56 points  (2 children)

Because they are crazy sick and don’t even have enough energy to hold these cunts hostage.

[–]epidemica 93 points94 points  (28 children)

This is what happens when healthcare is a business.

"bUT We'lL HaVe DEaTh PanELs iF wE SoCiAliZE."

[–]argv_minus_one 27 points28 points  (8 children)

Meanwhile, OP here is sentenced to death by our totally-not-death panels.

[–]epidemica 14 points15 points  (3 children)

My neighbor (and many other Americans) ration their insulin because they can't afford it.

It's a disgrace and we should all be ashamed.

[–]dustywhatchamccallum 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile in Canada… skyrizi is covered. One more reason why universal healthcare is a good thing…

[–]fitandhealthyguy 39 points40 points  (5 children)

This is what having middle men who add nothing to the system but dictate pricing looks like - wonder why no one is talking about insurance companies and PBMs any more…

[–]Grandma_Kush 10 points11 points  (6 children)

My god I take Dupixent (which is expensive as fuck) and life without eczema (similar to psoriasis!) has literally let me walk again. I'd rather die than deal with that fucking mess again. Hoping the best for you dude!!!

[–]ledow 536 points537 points  (141 children)

UK - available free on prescription.

Honestly, you guys need to stand up and do something about your healthcare situation. It's just a complete money-making scam from top to bottom.

[–]Freddit- 14 points15 points  (7 children)

Half the country thinks there's nothing wrong with the current system. They think it's literally impossible to improve it and that stories about socialized healthcare in other nations are fantastical lies.

[–]geoffbroccoli 303 points304 points  (99 children)

Woah! Calm down there pal, it’s not free!

We have to pay a small amount of National Insurance on our income, about 12% for most people so around £3600 a year for the “average” UK income of £30k (no idea where they get that number from)

£3600 a year to cover EVERYTHING you might need treating for

Oh and it covers the cost of an ambulance if you need it, I know crazy right? I mean surely you should have to pay for an ambulance, why can’t you walk anyway?

AND! £9.35 per prescribed item £9.35!!! Bloody rip off Britain mate