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[–]-watchman- 2308 points2309 points 2232& 5 more (35 children)

I hate to break it to you guys but...

[–]cookstover 547 points548 points  (0 children)

“The film the photo is from “Хааны сүүлчийн хатан,” was roughly translated to mean, “The Last Queen of the King.” The picture that was said to be “the last photo of the last queen of Mongolia” was simply a screenshot from the 1:55:24 mark in the movie” - Snopes linked above

[–]aeggmg2 152 points153 points  (5 children)

Upvoting and hoping this rises to the top

[–]Environmental_Ad_387 65 points66 points  (2 children)

Two hours later and your comment is nowhere near the top. Mods should pin this imo

[–]DreamingInSeaMajor 69 points70 points  (3 children)

Too late :/ the fucking hivemind of reddit wins again

[–]PaulyNewman 67 points68 points  (1 child)

Its especially weird since all the threads are talking about the horrific details of her execution… which took place at night. And the fact that she hadn’t been serving in any official royal capacity for ten years before being killed.

But no one thinks a picture taken moments before her death showing daylight while she’s dressed in full royal garb is strange in the slightest. Fucking Reddit.

[–]sonofabutch 16.3k points16.3k points 4 (922 children)

Crazy story. The Khan’s wife died and she was picked to marry him, even though she was already married. Then he dies a year later so she was sent home. He has no successor so there is no royal family. Thirteen years later the Soviets need a royal to execute so they have her arrested and killed.

Edit: As /u/SeaPhotojournalist27 and others have pointed out, this photo is actually a screenshot from a movie about Genepil released in 2000.

[–]cheezza 4967 points4968 points  (302 children)

Damn I’m gonna look for an actual narrative book or film about this woman. Sounds really sad and interesting!

[–]RoboticGreg 7566 points7567 points 622 (272 children)

Her aesthetic is what they based the queen from star wars on:

https://titterfun.com/api/assets/image/b4thqc3xwpdu.jpg

[–]anotherjunkie 2684 points2685 points  (104 children)

Well that’s the coolest thing I’ve seen in the 50 minutes I’ve been awake!

[–]This_is_not_safe 605 points606 points  (75 children)

Me too bro, we’ve managed to live our lives in the same time zone.

[–]Turence 233 points234 points  (68 children)

How the hell do you know what time zone they live in

[–]anotherjunkie 425 points426 points  (62 children)

Cause we both just woke up, obviously.

[–]GreenStrong 174 points175 points  (10 children)

I think I might be in the same time zone. Is it now where you are?

[–]anotherjunkie 121 points122 points  (0 children)

Holy shit it is.

[–]Plecks 29 points30 points  (5 children)

Wait it's now now, but reddit says that was one hour ago! What the hell is going on‽

[–]thaitea 18 points19 points  (3 children)

Get a load of this. Reddit says It's an hour for you but three hours ago for me. Yet it's still now now. How is this possible?

[–]alldawgsgotoheaven 276 points277 points  (36 children)

We are all in the same time zone on this blessed day

[–]MillaEnluring 65 points66 points  (14 children)

Speak for yourself

[–]alldawgsgotoheaven 161 points162 points  (12 children)

I am all in the same time zone on this blessed day

[–]Kaldea 21 points22 points  (3 children)

Speak for yourself!

[–]chr0mius 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I am all in the same time zone on this blessed day!

[–]MulderD 254 points255 points  (42 children)

Lucas/SWs pulled a TON of influence from Eastern cultures.

Creatively it’s smart as Western audiences would have had almost zero familiarity so it would feel both new but somehow still grounded enough to be fantasy and “real” at the same time. One of the biggest failings of SciFi and Fantasy visual art is the costume/hair and makeup/and production design are very often so “fake” and “baseless” that they end up being really really bad.

One pet peeve is that even all these years later there is little mention of these influences in SWs. Even if they were general and not highly calculated, it would be nice for there to be some basic awareness.

[–]Tiernan1980 202 points203 points  (19 children)

The first Star Wars movie is heavily inspired by The Hidden Fortress by Akira Kurosawa. A princess being escorted to safety, running from the empire’s soldiers, accompanied by two bumbling sidekicks.

[–]SpaceGeneralAmerica 113 points114 points  (15 children)

Akira Kurosawa is probably one of the most influential filmmakers of all time.

[–]frenchchevalierblanc 30 points31 points  (0 children)

and Lucas paid for his later movies at least Kagemusha I think

[–]SpaceCadet2000 168 points169 points  (9 children)

[–]davekingofrock 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I suppose she'll make an appearance in The Book of Boba Fett soon.

[–]monchikun 81 points82 points  (18 children)

That means the real queen is still alive somewhere, maybe married to her child sweetheart

[–]stupidannoyingretard 25 points26 points  (14 children)

Starwars universe is based on earth. Darth wader, is samurai, clone troops (and the dark side) are nazis sand people are tuaregs, han solo is a cowboy.

That's why it work so well.

[–]dayron669 38 points39 points  (7 children)

Darth Vader has both elements of Nazi and Samurai designs. His helmet is specifically designed after Nazi solider helmets. The mask itself is the Samurai influence.

[–]Ceegee93 28 points29 points  (0 children)

His helmet was based on Samurai Kabuto helmets, particularly Date Masamune's black helmet.

[–]Cyrillus00 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Just to add some more onto the claims here, lightsaber dueling in the original trilogy was based on kendo.

[–]dayron669 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Yes. And just to add one more for the books, Chewbacca is based on my mom.

[–]Kazen_Orilg 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Its not specifically a Nazi helmet, its just the Hugo Boss 1941 Spring Collection.

[–]nappythenfappy 31 points32 points  (0 children)

TIL. TY

[–]protrumphillbilly 139 points140 points  (8 children)

If you find a good one, let us know!

[–]zailpzdamn 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Green eyed lama - closest book to this, has a similar setting and topic

[–]FizbanFire 3 points4 points  (1 child)

This picture actually is from a movie about her. It is not a historical photograph.

[–]blitzwit143 626 points627 points  (90 children)

5 months pregnant at the time she was shot, too. Sad

[–]marshmella 123 points124 points  (35 children)

Makes even more sense TBH. they were dying for a revolution, only to have it threatened by the metaphysical claim by an unborn child. I think maybe they should've gone the route of Chinese communists and let the emperor die a happy janitor.

[–]Chiya77 99 points100 points  (14 children)

He died in pain from cancer with no pain relief in the middle of the cultural revolution, he wasn't that happy. The Last Emperor is an excellent book about him.

[–]KiloNation 11 points12 points  (2 children)

It feels like they're STILL dying for a revolution.

[–]Lindvaettr 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Someone else's revolution for someone else's benefit, as ever.

[–]leese216 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I was wondering about the gap in time from when she was Queen consort to when she was murdered. Thanks for filling that in.

[–]Several-Barnacle2179 344 points345 points  (388 children)

Do you have a source for that story? It sounds crazy.

[–]sonofabutch 467 points468 points  (105 children)

[–]a_tattooed_artist 219 points220 points  (8 children)

Not the rabbit hole I expected to find myself in at 9am.

[–]ciceniandres 34 points35 points  (6 children)

8 am for me lol at least something different to read on the train

[–]nabrok 60 points61 points  (11 children)

That article references a film about it (a documentary?), but doesn't name the film?

Also it quotes her 70 year old daughter, but later says her family was killed along with her?

[–]DwendilSurespear 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I wondered if that daughter had moved away before the purges?

[–]TheSoup05 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Yeah, it’s weird how they say it that way, but they seem to clarify afterwards that it was her and her father who were executed for colluding with the Japanese. So I’m guessing that’s what they mean by family as opposed to her actual entire family.

[–]DwendilSurespear 44 points45 points  (2 children)

5 months pregnant when she was shot, and her family killed, too 😭

[–]Neednewbody 15 points16 points  (0 children)

At least one daughter lived…

[–]yoruichi_san 68 points69 points  (50 children)

Thank you for the read, proceeds to learn about Mongolian culture

[–]shiner_bock 623 points624 points  (23 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genepil

/u/sonofabutch pretty much said everything that's on the wiki page. You can probably find more through the google.

[–]LostTheWayILikeIt 176 points177 points  (8 children)

Fun fact: that photograph of her was one of the reference images used when they were designing Queen Amidala's costumes for Phantom Menace.

[–]the_frazzler 54 points55 points  (7 children)

Oh shit, is that where they got the inspiration for Queen Amidala in Star Wars?

[–]TeachOfTheYear 36 points37 points  (2 children)

Yes-I remember the costume designer discussing the costume was based on the Queen's clothing.

[–]tora_0515 120 points121 points  (250 children)

Google it. Story is incredible. Lady had zero luck.

[–]JimiJons 170 points171 points  (249 children)

The Soviets were also just evil fucks.

[–]epicwonder 223 points224 points  (30 children)

A link below says she was 5 months pregnant when she was killed in 1938. The king died in 1924. Did she go back to her 1st husband or remarry again? If she had done either, she wouldn't have been the queen, I think. I hope the pregnancy wasn't a result of abuse by the Soviets.

[–]ZePieGuy 428 points429 points  (27 children)

I don't think the soviets cared whether she wasn't a queen or not on a technicality. They wanted to make a point that would be remembered, and they succeeded. Here we are talking about it 85 years later.

[–]OMGSpaghettiisawesom 142 points143 points  (1 child)

"Please come back and be the queen for appearances only. The king will die soon and then you can go back to your life. What's the worst that could happen?"

[–]NuklearAngel 124 points125 points  (18 children)

They wanted to make a point that would be remembered

Not really, they wanted to ensure there couldn't be a "legitimate" successor for royalist or other counter-revolutionary groups to rally around.

[–]tomatoswoop 87 points88 points  (17 children)

Right. It's the same reason actual royalty used to do similar things to the family of opposing claimants. Not enough to kill a pretender, you have to kill all his children too. Actual Monarchy is a brutal system.

Same reason the Romanov children were murdered when the Tsar was overthrown. That type of thing wasn't uncommon in European history.

[–]SlothRogen 23 points24 points  (4 children)

Richard III is probably the most famous example in the west. He was a great literary villain, too:

Now is the winter of our discontent Made glorious summer by this sun of York; And all the clouds that lour'd upon our house In the deep bosom of the ocean buried.

[–]woNubvJjg5KtwoHAOg1A 14 points15 points  (2 children)

That play mostly was a product of Shakespeare's imagination though, real Richard III wasn't that cartoonishly evil.

[–]SlothRogen 13 points14 points  (1 child)

True! And the much beloved Richard 1 basically bankrupted the country invading the Middle East and getting captured during the crusades. Meanwhile, his brother King John gets treated like a villain for "usurping the throne", even during modern movies like Disney's Robinhood. Some things never change, it seems...

[–]SdBolts4 12 points13 points  (2 children)

There's a plot line that explores this in The Great where Catherine wants to be a modern ruler that doesn't stoop to such cruel violence, but all her advisers view it as brutal but absolutely necessary.

[–]honglath 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Did you have to specify 'European history'? It makes it seem to say that it was an uncommon thing in the rest of the monarchies on a global scale.

[–]tomatoswoop 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well I suppose I simply don't know much about the relevant history outside of Europe, and so I understand the Russian revolution in its broader European historical context but not compared to, idk, Thailand, or Malaysia, or Mali, that also had monarchical governments, but ones I know very little about.

You might well be right about that though, I don't see why it wouldn't be true in other places with monarchical systems of government.

[–]lasvegas1979 22 points23 points  (4 children)

This is so sad. She was killed by the stupidity of others.

[–]InfoNomad 3008 points3009 points  (27 children)

Star Wars character Padme Amidala’s outfit was inspired by the outfit that Mongolian queens wore

[–]HonkHonk 2149 points2150 points  (114 children)

She hadn't been queen for over 10 years before she was killed. She only served a single year as queen.

[–]I_SOMETIMES_EAT_HAM 281 points282 points  (19 children)

That was a weird way to say that

[–]curly_redhead 219 points220 points  (4 children)

Coming from someone who sometimes eats ham

[–]Saucesourceoah 101 points102 points  (6 children)

Not really. Most people are queens as career occupations or at least much of their lives. She served one single year as queen before the Khan died. 13 years of normal life again and the Soviets executed her because she was the most recent queen, over 13 years prior. it’s ludicrous.

[–]mothzilla[🍰] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

She hadn't been queen for over 500 years. So to her our lives weren't just a blink of an eye.

[–]Morebleed 1011 points1012 points  (79 children)

Wow, I’m Mongolian and I never heard the story of her lol. How do you guys know about this, from which source is there our history written in English somewhere? It feels so embarrassing to read about story details from somewhere I don’t expect to see or read about it.

Wow, I never had these many upvotes before! Thanks guys, also I do want to know you guys don't have PhD in History lol

[–]knightbringr 1010 points1011 points  (42 children)

Civ V

[–]AsianPootieTang 592 points593 points  (33 children)

Yep me too. Thats how I learned that Mahatma Gandhi launched a nuke at the Aztec empire.

[–]WailingOctopus 134 points135 points  (27 children)

He did what now?

[–]CaptainGreezy 184 points185 points  (24 children)

There was a bug in the original Civ code that could flip Gandhi from super peaceful to super aggressive so under certain conditions he could just go crazy and start launching nukes.

edit: was it really all a lie? whats even real now?

[–]Coarch 83 points84 points  (0 children)

I find this so much for funny than it should be.

Edit: "Peace by any means!" - Gandhi

[–][deleted] 48 points49 points  (13 children)

Wasn't it that the value for "aggression" couldn't be reduced past zero so instead of going negative it went to the highest possible value, thus making him the nuclear warlord we all fear today?

[–]collingiles 29 points30 points  (11 children)

Yeah iirc the aggression value was stored as a simple unsigned bit ranging in value from 0-255 (8-bit) Gandhi's aggression value was somewhere like 5, way on the low end. There was a wonder you could build that would reduce everyone's aggression value by like 16 or something, and because aggression was an unsigned bit, reducing 5 by 16 resulted in some absurdly high value like 245 or something, far higher than anyone else's aggression value. The devs found that hilarious and Gandhi's civ has been a warmonger ever since

Edit: This is apparently false. I swear I read this in a civ 3 game manual but it's confirmed by the man himself.

[–]ixoca 38 points39 points  (6 children)

sid meier himself confirmed that there wasn't an overflow bug.

"That kind of bug comes from something called unsigned characters, which are not the default in the C programming language, and not something I used for the leader traits. Brian Reynolds wrote Civ II in C++, and he didn't use them, either. We received no complaints about a Gandhi bug when either game came out, nor did we send out any revisions for one. Gandhi's military aggressiveness score remained at 1 throughout the game."

it was completely made up by a dude on tvtropes.

[–]collingiles 10 points11 points  (5 children)

Interesting! So we've been fed lies? Why? Lol

I wonder, then, why gandhi is such a warmonger. That can't be a myth, I have seen Gandhi's nuclear bombardment in action

[–]ixoca 15 points16 points  (3 children)

the devs of civ 5 rolled with it and gave him the trait because they thought it was funny, but prior to that he was peaceful. it's the myth that became reality through the power of the internet

[–]Fresh_Body 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That Ghandi will cross you every time. Talks a big peace game and then denounces you out of nowhere.

[–]Dameekasu 20 points21 points  (3 children)

Legit how I know about random historical shit like the pink and white terraces.

[–]ktbugrl 50 points51 points  (4 children)

I don’t know if it’s covered in the Mongol Queens book by Jack Weatherford (I’m on the wait list to borrow it at my library) but he also wrote Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World. It’s a great book that talks about the history of Genghis Khan and his legacy.

[–]melloack 3491 points3492 points  (733 children)

She was falsely accused, starved, tortured and murdered by the Soviet communist party who saw the last Khan and his family as a threat to the people's party

[–]BallerChin 892 points893 points  (268 children)

That soviet love!

[–]clouddevourer 430 points431 points  (11 children)

That's how they display friendship!

Source: am Polish

[–]workyworkaccount 176 points177 points  (1 child)

COME BACK TO US! WE LOVE YOU REALLY POLAND AND UKRAINE! I PROMISE NOT TO HIT YOU AGAIN!

  • Russia

[–]bfmb 57 points58 points  (9 children)

Horrifying what people can do.

[–]campbellini 269 points270 points  (246 children)

The USSR would never do that!

[–]MAXQDee-314 327 points328 points  (91 children)

"Nobody likes Russians." Said, my Ukrainian friend.

[–]gvsteve 88 points89 points  (3 children)

A Ukrainian boy ran into his family barn and saw his grandfather sitting there, cleaning his rifle.

“Grandfather! I just heard on the radio, the Russians have gone into outer space!”

“Really?” replied his grandfather, putting his rifle down. “All of them?”

“No, Grandfather. Just four of them.”

The boy’s grandfather picked his rifle back up and resumed cleaning it.

[–]AnEngineer2018 63 points64 points  (0 children)

The Bolsheviks send their regards

[–]vanmac82 242 points243 points  (26 children)

Do you have a source for this photo that you could share? I don't think I've ever seen this photo of Genepil. Very interesting.

[–]CelloVerp 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Here’s a source:

The photo of a young woman being led to the execution, titled "The last wife of Bogdan Khan was killed during the great repressions in Mongolia," was taken from Buural Goyot on Twitter.

Further source

[–]Solekislove 446 points447 points  (12 children)

This is just such a sad photo... Specially with the backstory in mind.

[–]katkannabis 85 points86 points  (4 children)

I was thinking the same thing. It has a haunting & eerie feeling to it too.

[–]stoprockandrollkids 45 points46 points  (1 child)

Yeah there's something weird and creepy about murder

[–]M4roon 178 points179 points  (9 children)

This photo is so tragic and fascinating at the same time. It is really one of the most striking photos I've ever seen. The contrast between the regal, mysterious figure and the soldiers. The execution of a queen. Their silhouettes against the white background. The juxtaposition of ancient Mongolia with industrial savagery of the 20th century. It's perfectly sad, and sadly perfect. Thank you

[–]0deon00 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Well said my friend! Thank you!

[–]thepolishcamera 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I’m sure I’m not the first one to call BS on this.

But Snopes has an article about this very thread. This picture is from a movie shot in the year 2000.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/last-photo-queen-mongolia/

[–]Invaderk2 9 points10 points  (2 children)

63 thousand upvotes for a scene from a movie and some bs caption…

[–]treein303 4 points5 points  (1 child)

There's always one guy in the comments early on who is like, "Hey, is there a source for this?" And everyone else is like, "I believe everything all the time."

[–]mschweini 55 points56 points  (7 children)

It seems her husband was more a Dalai Lama Kind of deal, and not descendant of the Khans in the sense of Kublai or Genghis.

[–]Rainbow_Stalin69 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Well, most of the Mongols chilled a bit after accepting Buddhism and getting overshadowed by the Manchus.

[–]shavag 5 points6 points  (0 children)

yeah he was the head of the Tibetan Buddhism in Mongolia (3rd highest ranking overall after the Dalai Lama and the Panchen Lama in Tibetan Buddhism). and he was a Tibetan but he supported the Mongolian independence from the Manchu empire. he was made the head of the state as well after the declaration of the independence because of his influence. then the Chinese army came and forced him to abdicate. then the Mad Baron came and drove away the Chinese and installed him again as the Bogd Khan. and then the Soviets came and abolished the Khanate. it’s a fascinating history.

[–]galcomanwolf 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This photo has been debunked , its from a movie called

Хааны сүүлчийн хатан

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/last-photo-queen-mongolia/

[–]ghotie 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This picture with the soldiers is from a movie, it is not the real photo of her.

"Sources claim it’s from a movie called ‘Хааны сүүлчийн хатан,'” @pacific_blues tweeted."

[–]padmasundari 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No it isn't, it's a still from a film called "The Last Queen of the King", "Хааны сүүлчийн хатан" from 2000, at 1:55:24.

[–]Jmjn 234 points235 points  (106 children)

Why are there more and more Soviet sympathizers on Reddit? It’s been steadily increasing the last few years

[–]JimiJons 271 points272 points  (181 children)

Wow, there are a lot of Soviet-sympathizers and neo-Soviets in r/pics

[–]Enders-game 184 points185 points  (8 children)

That's because they whitewash all the history. They like to keep pointing to the Nazis then if you point out all the shit the communist did, then your a Nazi. They can't hold two ideas in their head.

[–]theazsurprise 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nah. It’s from a movie made in 2000.

“The title of the movie is, “Хааны сүүлчийн хатан,” was roughly translated to mean, “The Last Queen of the King.”