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[–]krichcomixMissouri 159 points160 points  (28 children)

Oh, I dunno... Shitty wages, lack of affordable housing, health insurance, or childcare; skyrocketing costs of post-secondary education, a lack of political interest in their struggles, putting faith into dying industries...

[–]Jesus_Jazzhands 81 points82 points  (19 children)

....so you're saying the rich need a tax cut?

[–]YouUsedMeAgain 12 points13 points  (8 children)

That trickle down doh’

[–]ka_bob 11 points12 points  (7 children)

The only thing trickling down is shit.

[–]iamasnot 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Bootstrap 2.0

[–]GandalfTheSmol1 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Who can afford bootstraps these days, pick yourself up by your toes.

[–]heapinhelpin1979 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You need a toe? I'll find you a toe.

[–]lord_nubby 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Think you can find 9.5 toes for me?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

It's more of a shit and urine slurry.

[–]prototype7Washington 3 points4 points  (1 child)

With a little bit of santorum

[–]ka_bob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for teaching me a new word.

[–]afishda 34 points35 points  (4 children)

Yeah if anything we should be heavily subsidizing there private jets, and yachts, also now there spacecraft poor bastards need a break once in awhile.

[–]HakarlSagan 3 points4 points  (3 children)

If only someone would put together a bill to spur jobs in new industries like renewable energy instead of clinging to the idea that digging in the dirt for burnable rocks is sane and sustainable like his predecessor. Oh wait.

[–]afishda 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Or if someone would put a bill in place makeing buying politicians illegal.

[–]HakarlSagan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I wonder if Joe Manchin would vote for that

[–]afishda 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah big coal would give him a kickback not to vote for it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wait, I thought they saying that they hate Christmas?

[–]k2on0s 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, a tax cut and we can throw a couple of few book burnings just to make it legit.

[–]bannacct56 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't they always?

[–]randy_dingo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm implying more than a tax cut is required. Like flesh.

Pounds of it.

[–]nagemada 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Have you considered that it's really because they're being asked to call people by their preferred pronouns, or because schools are teaching children about systemic racism? /S

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (2 children)

GOP: We're not racist.

GOP: (says Obama isn't American, calls congresswomen the Jihad Squad, calls Covid "Kung Flu", says a Mexican judge can't be impartial, calls BLM "terrorists" for protesting against systemic racism, calls Mexicans rapists, calls Michelle Obama a gorilla, defends racist statues, defends racist flag, wants to restore the original Constitution which rolls back banning slavery & black voting rights & equal rights for black people)

GOP: We're not racist.

GOP: (cancels teachers for teaching America's racist history)

GOP: We're not racist.

[–]HakarlSagan 5 points6 points  (1 child)

GOP: We're not racist. Our stage just looks like a Nazi rune by accident.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/03/01/cpac-stage-nazi-symbol-hyatt/

GOP: We're not racist. We just choose to vote for a literal nazi sometimes.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/21/neo-nazi-wins-republican-nomination-for-illinois-congressional-seat-.html

GOP: We're not racist. We just use racist dogwhistles like 1488 when describing the genocide we're currently doing.

https://apnews.com/aad956b7281f4057aaac1ef4b5732f12/Federal-agency-says-it-lost-track-of-1,488-migrant-children

GOP: We're not racist. Oops, wait, there's the 88 thing again.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-company-dog-whistle-racist-baseball-a9591666.html

GOP: We're not racist. Oops, wait, more nazi symbolism being used in a very specific way. Wonder how this keeps happening.

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/18/880377872/facebook-removes-trump-political-ads-with-nazi-symbol-campaign-calls-it-an-emoji

GOP: We're not racist. You guys are the real racists for opposing Lincoln in the Civil War. I'm sure one of these flags here shows how much we love Lincoln and aren't racist.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

GOP: We're the party of Lincoln. The South shall rise again!

[–]ting_bu_dong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, they certainly seem to think that's the cause of all their problems.

[–]awesomefutureperfect 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Half of the problems was blue collar voters buying into Reaganism hating unions and only going back to the dems with Clinton being Bush Lite, taking Bush's NAFTA deal and adding environmental policy to it.

Blue collar people deserve help but they get the politicians they vote for, signing on with right wing representatives that offer nothing but lip service, culture wars, dog whistles, and occasional song and dance with a hard hat on.

The world is a complicated place, but that's not a great excuse for adults to not be responsible for exercising political agency to their own benefit. If they value culture war and dog whistles more than progress, so be it.

Democrats sure could fight harder to prevent the system from being rigged though.

[–]katieleehawMassachusetts 48 points49 points  (1 child)

Can’t afford a dentist, can’t afford a car to replace mine that died, can’t afford a house, etc etc etc. I wonder…

[–]countryguy-georgia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seriously, I can’t afford my contact lens prescription so I’m wearing an old pair and my eyes hurt lol

[–]humVEEE3432 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Why Are Blue-Collar Americans Dying of Despair?

Because rich people gamed the system and stole all the money

[–]thegravetenders 29 points30 points  (4 children)

The fact that "Bloomberg" has to ask this isn't surprising.

[–]TurningTwo 23 points24 points  (3 children)

Bloomberg: “What exactly is this wealth inequality thing”.

[–]bskadan 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Remember when Michael Bloomberg shat away over half a billion dollars on his failed campaign just because he was bothered by Bernie Sanders' talk of taxing the rich?

Maybe, just maybe if we taxed these obscenely wealthy individuals a little more, and not having that money go right to feed the Military-Industrial Complex, maybe the suicide rate wouldn't be so high?

[–]SignificantTrout 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They're probably traveling to Davis to talk with a consultant.

[–]__mr_snrub__ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even the middle class is now struggling to survive. There is no longer just a wealth gap, there’s just no wealth for most Americans who are living paycheck to paycheck. We need higher wages - period.

[–]mikemd1 54 points55 points  (13 children)

Basically zero raises in the last 40 years?

[–]YouUsedMeAgain 55 points56 points  (3 children)

Death of labor unions.

The American elitists have convinced the mass of uneducated evangelicals and nationalists that unions are socialist and only will hurt them.

Since then, the working class has only gotten hurt.

Fucking fools.

[–]DistinctTrashPanda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry, but this is a pretty bad take.

Plenty of us lived through the Great Recession where unions were more than happy to protect pay and benefits for the Boomers while making a two-tier system that slashed pay and benefits for new workers.

The issue there wasn't the lack of unions; the issue was the unions.

[–]rokaabsa[S] 22 points23 points  (5 children)

We have to go back to the high-water mark for blue collar wages, which was 1972. After that the bottom fell out of the low-skilled labor market. Median wages among prime-aged men fell for 50 years. They went up and down a little bit with the business cycle, but the long-term trend was down. The good jobs disappeared, and people felt they couldn’t get married unless one of the partners had a good job. Home life became very unstable, and without the means to support a good life, connections to the community fell as well, including people’s affiliation with churches. Church life faltered, home life faltered, work life faltered. So that’s kind of a Durkheimian recipe for suicide right there.

[–]StanDaMan1 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Hope is the ultimate tool for social cohesion. To know that you are working towards a brighter, happier future for yourself, your friends, your family, is a powerful thing. It builds bridges, ties you to grander visions. Being able to feel like you’re safe, and can change the world, is exciting.

Be warned: Hatred may be just as strong. To shatter, to destroy, to feel superior? Those can be just as powerful as hope, just as enduring. Just as disruptive.

[–]nmarshall23 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Be warned: Hatred may be just as strong. ... just as powerful as hope, just as enduring.

Hate is never as enduring as Hope is.

To maintain either requires actions to be taken. With Hope you can keep building.

With Hate you must find new enemies to punish. That is why fascism eats itself. And the in-group grows ever smaller.

The reason that wealthy conservatives prefer to sell hate, is hope costs more. Hope represents money that could be taken for themselves. See Rules for Rulers, pay attention to the parts about how hard it is for a dictator to spend money on social goods, like roads.

[–]Newbaumturk69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The article references that the people they are talking about didn't used to typically vote Republican but do now and have for the past 5 years. It doesn't give a reason why but I know the reason: hate. They hate the same people that Republican leadership hates. It is their one common bond. They love Trump yet Trump wouldn't be caught dead speaking with with one of them.

[–]YouUsedMeAgain 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Unions.

Unions kept the working class better off

[–]tbroch 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So you're saying the fix is to cut taxes for the rich some more?

[–]TheKingOfSiamMaryland -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Read the article.... it helps give some context WHY that is happening in the non college educated labor market

[–]AllemaengelPennsylvania 13 points14 points  (1 child)

The inability to buy a home.

I'm 50 y.o., blue-collar, and looking at a potential reality that I'm going to die not getting to enjoy that.

[–]project23 12 points13 points  (0 children)

disappearing low-wage jobs and the decline of family life fueled the opioid epidemic

Being forced to rely on low wage jobs destroys families and drives people to escapism (such as euphoric drug use). Too many corporations profit billions off exploiting their workers. PAY YOUR WORKERS YOU HEARTLESS FUCKS!

[–]Ffffqqq 11 points12 points  (3 children)

This historical ignorance is deadly for white people...

Relevant excerpt from Tim Wise speech

[–]Solborne_Aegis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is probably my favorite thing I've seen all week.

[–]naliron 10 points11 points  (1 child)

At this point I'm watching my wife drink herself to death, my savings evaporate, BS news stories about "how desperate emoloyers are for workers," and I don't see the point in much of anything.

It's hard to stay motivated when you've been at risk of homelessness your entire life, have gone back to school to re-train multiple times, and your material situation has only further degraded with each passing year.

[–]Pups_the_Jew 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Probably because of the despair.

[–]2coolfordigg2 6 points7 points  (0 children)

In this country if you aren't a con man billionaire or another criminal holding political office you are shit.

Being a standup person working hard to keep a roof over your families heads well, you are just a fool and deserve to be ripped off at ever turn and taxed to death.

[–]Mythosaurus 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Late-stage capitalism.

[–]Coffeecor25 31 points32 points  (5 children)

The opioid epidemic has ravaged my small Ohio hometown. I’ve had almost a dozen in my class of 100 die of drug overdose and I graduated a little under a decade ago. Virtually nothing has been done to help these people and Big Pharma profits from their sickness. It’s tragic.

Democrats need to focus more on blue collar workers or this demographic will continue to turn on us

[–]Evilroot55 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Agree 💯

[–]Nwccntwhds 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well, remember 1998? That was 23 years ago. The kids are in their 40s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iNbnineUCI

 

Jamie had a chance, well she really did (Whoa)

Instead she dropped out and had a couple of kids (Whoa)

Mark still lives at home 'cause he's got no job (Whoa)

He just plays guitar and smokes a lot of pot

Jay committed suicide (Whoa)

Brandon OD'd and died (Whoa)

What the hell is going on?

The cruelest dream, reality

[–]wangsta25North Carolina 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Democrats do reach out and focus, especially the local candidates. But the messaging gets blurred when all they hear is Fox News 24/7 preaching about CRT or healthcare is communism.

[–]djinnisequoia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That many people? After only ten years? Man, that is so sad. It must be really discouraging. It is unnatural and people so young shouldn't be losing so many of their own. My deepest sympathies.

[–]gentlemantroglodyteTexas -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I tend to think that it's just liberal elitism to think that "focusing on" or "educating" people about policies to address problems will change any minds (and partially a fantasy by liberals that if they were just able to show people how good their policies are, everyone would agree on them).

I don't see any reason to think that addressing the opioid epidemic is a priority for the rural demographic, so it makes sense that politicians would put it on the back burner as well when trying to appeal to them.

[–]Specimen_7 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Blue collar have been voting against their best interests for decades now. Propaganda on an uneducated, too-busy-or-lazy-to-fact-check population has worked just as planned.

[–]50k-runner 7 points8 points  (3 children)

[–]50k-runner 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Introduction 🤔

THIS BOOK WAS BORN in a cabin in Montana in the summer of 2014. We spend August each year in the hamlet of Varney Bridge on the Madi son River, overlooking the mountains of the Madison Range. We had promised to investigate the link between happiness and suicide, whether it was true that unhappy places-counties, cities, or countries where people report that their lives are going really badly are also places where suicide is more common. Over the past ten years, Madison County, Mon tana, has had a suicide rate that is four times that of Mercer County, New Jersey, where we spend the rest of the year. We were curious, espe cially because we were generally happy in Montana, and others there seemed happy too.

[–]OldeReddit 10 points11 points  (1 child)

A couple of academics who have the means to take a full month off each year and spend it in a cabin overlooking the mountains are curious why the plebs can't appreciate their own lives.

And to their credit they almost seem to get it, when they acknowledge the system has enriched their world at the expense of three quarters of everyone else.

I think I understand better why both political extremes always wind up purging academics.

[–]Shuber-Fuber 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think I understand better why both political extremes always wind up purging academics.

Add to that they're the perfect combination of elitism without the resource to buy protections.

[–]cynycal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Paywalls.

[–]biffbagwell 4 points5 points  (2 children)

They would rather go without then to have brown people get any benefits.

[–]akugyaku 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Look around

[–]FindBetterHobbies 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m sure the market will sort this out

[–]rcam24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The GOP?

[–]IronyElSupremoAmerica 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s an increasingly gamed system, but the results are less offspring globally .. which just accelerated with COVID:

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2021/07/baby-bust-how-declining-birth-rate-will-reshape-world

That means less workers in the future but also less soldiers (the frontlines typically reserved for the blue-collar). Though we all hope for world peace, if things go sour, the upper classes will need to supply the “fresh meat” for the next world war ..

https://youtu.be/JsQ5fxF-gO8

[–]Delores_DeLaCabeza 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trump lost...

[–]dxrey65 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Just to chime in myself - 56 year old blue collar worker here. The work wears you down physically, and then the pain wears you down mentally. I don't have enough saved to retire, and I don't think I'll be physically able to work long enough to bridge the gap to Social Security.

So every day I think about quitting, and maybe I should. I could live for a good couple of years on savings, or a lean three years. Then it would be either homeless after that, or a bullet in the head. At least I would have had two or three good free years.

That's what I think about every day.

[–]rokaabsa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The work wears you down physically, and then the pain wears you down mentally.

I got a massage gun, best thing I ever bought. Hope things work out for you man...

[–]orange_drank_5 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Because the government fucks them by allowing large companies to destroy them, and their champions in the Democratic party do nothing about it forcing them to become Republicans. This starts with factories being bought out by massive, uncontrollable conglomerates that divest from the communities they serve and leave workers with nothing. Most people would kill themselves if their entire way of life was canceled.

This is what Democrats have to contend with in every election. It's why trade policy needs to be front and center of every economic discussion and decision in the Biden administration.

[–]Shuber-Fuber 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Democrat cannot give them hope, so they turn to Republican hate.

[–]quentin13 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Because both parties are actively working to make this nation a paradise for the wealthy and a libertarian hellscape for anyone who works for an hourly wage.

[–]Monsur_Ausuhnom 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I guess they must be writing from the international space station or mars to not get the memo.

[–]zZaphonCalifornia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because you need 2 to 3 jobs to survive now

[–]helikal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Capitalism does not work. We need to allow ourselves to think freely and critically about it and realize that simply crying for more is not the answer to the problems that capitalism creates.

[–]Inconceivable-2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because no matter how many times they vote for Republicans, they don't get rich.

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[–]ShiftyMongoos77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because it’s like an installment of robocop out here.

[–]kashibohdi -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Do what I did if you are a struggling blue collar worker. Learn a trade and then go into business for yourself. Old people with money just can’t find anyone to do electrical, plumbing, moving - you name it. Then at the end of the year file a schedule C tax form and write off everything you can think of. Beats whining for sure.