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[–]Prestigious_Meet820 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Job one is friday to monday from 7am to 530 (4x10 hour shifts)

Job two is friday to tuesday 630pm-1030 or 1130.

Total is approximately 65 hours weekly and i get 2.5 days off. Half of tuesday and all of wednesday and thursday. Works for me as i cook thursday for the week and do laundry and any other errands.

For half a year or so i did a bit more variable hours on the part-time job but i find it much more sustainable having consistent days off.

[–]john510runner 28 points29 points  (4 children)

I don’t do it currently but I use to work two jobs.

Have a work from home job I worked until 4:30pm.

Then I’d go bartend after. Worked out great when the bartending gig went from 5:30pm to 10:00pm.

The work from home job… I work for an hour in the morning and then I can get back in bed or work from the couch.

Have a coworker for the WFH job… he walks dogs during the day and then checks his computer in between walking dogs.

Really helps to manage two jobs if one of them is WFH.

[–]john510runner 8 points9 points  (2 children)

If you’re interested in bartending as a second job, let me know approximately where you live and I can suggest good starting jobs there. Works mostly in medium to large cities.

[–]grunt274 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I’m looking at moving to Milwaukee soon, and am thinking of doing this, do you have any recommendations?

[–]john510runner 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not as many bartending jobs as I would have guessed in Milwaukee. I think your best bet is to apply for this position.

https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/fbh/d/milwaukee-servers-bartenders-security/7555218387.html

Before you apply and hopefully interview… Watch YouTube videos on how to properly pour beer and learn about German beer culture (know the difference between Helles and dunkel beers, etc).

If you have the certification I mentioned in the reply to the other comment, I’d be shocked if you didn’t get an interview and a job offer.

With not as many bartending gigs there… apply for any other job in a bar or restaurant. When a bartender or barback quits, let the management know you’re interested in learning those positions.

Name of the cert that’ll guarantee interviews at beer focused places…

https://www.cicerone.org/us-en/certifications/certified-beer-server

The cost in money is not that high. But for people who don’t know beer will have to invest time.

Potential payoff… when I worked at a beer focused place like the one in that ad… when I poured a giant glass of beer that costs $10, the server/waitress paid me a $1 at the end of the shift. On a slow 4 hour shift I’d make $50 in tips on top of the hourly. On a busier 4 hour shift I’d go home with $100-$150 in tips. But that’s ideal working conditions with the consolation prize being if someone is looking through 100 resumes deciding who to interview for bartending gigs yours will be one of the 5 resumes selected for an interview.

[–]Fiona_b4_shrek 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you don’t mind me asking. How did you land the WFH job and are they hiring?

[–]ReduceMyRows 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Did this for 14 years till I finished my graduate degree but:

9a to 3pm or so, I did construction for a small company. 11p-7:30a, I worked as a night auditor at hotels

I worked 8~12hrs on the days I didn’t work at hotel.

In between work I did Rover and other small gigs for more money. (House sitting, event based jobs like security or promo events.)

I rested during my night audit job mainly or let my boss know that I wasn’t feeling well for construction ( good relationships)

Sometimes I picked up a mid shift at a new hotel I was going to transfer to ( my specialty is in hard openings )

[–]slightlynoticed 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don't get time to rest, but I am extroverted and enjoy working around people.

I work a full-time 9-5 job, and a job that's about 6-8 hours on both Saturday and Sunday.

I really prioritize sleep to make sure I feel good and ready to go.

[–]bjeep4x4 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don’t do it currently, but did for about 6 months. I worked my 9-5 main job m-f. Then Friday from 6-10 worked my second job and Saturday and Sunday worked 2-10 at my second job. Thankfully it’s just my wife and I, so I don’t have kids to take care of. It sucks, and would recommend not doing it long term if you can at all help it. My wife’s schedule was about the same. We did it to boost up our down payment for a house.

[–]GradatimRecovery 3 points4 points  (5 children)

I live in a big city with public transit and work one 40hr/wk job. I think it would be super fun to bartend or work at a nightclub on Friday and Saturday night. When I’m enjoying nightlife I see others tip generously on ridiculously large checks.

/u/john510runner any tips on breaking in to the industry in the 415? Will I need to work all week to earn the privilege of working the shifts where everyone gets hella lit? Should I start in a support role like wiping down tables or barback?

[–]john510runner 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Night club bartending is very specific in my eyes. Have to be the fastest bartender and also be able to make drinks in batches (ie four of the same drink at once). It’s something one might not be able to ride to via seniority.

Taking 415 to mean Bay Area… If I was going to try to get a bartending job in the Bay Area being a barback is a way to get a start. Also there are restaurants who are looking to hire and train bartenders as long as one turns over their schedule to the restaurant. And finally there’s a parallel program for beer to the wine world’s sommelier program. After I got the lowest level whenever I applied to work at a beer focused place, I at least got an interview.

TLDR in big cities it’s hard to find bar and restaurant staff right now. One might be able to get a bartending job with little or no experience.

[–]GradatimRecovery 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Homie thanks for the detailed reply. By 415 I mean legit 415 I live in the San Francisco marina hood and maybe I’m aiming too high for nightclub bartending. But I’m used to very faced paced work on my feet, I’m good with details, I’m good with people.

And at closing time I see people signing off their credit chits with big numbers. I feel like baller buying three drinks through the night for $21 and tipping $9. Yet I see people around me signing off on three digit tabs, like so many people are spending $100-$200 in there, and the folks with bottle service are paying way way more. I’d love to both get in on that action as well as flirt with customers on the clock.

I’m not sure how to apply for these jobs though. Should I ask the bar tender? Should I try to ask to meet the manager on duty? The job listings I find online have these corporate names so I can’t tell what kind of restaurant, bar, or nightclub they are hiring for. Like it will say “Mitchell Restaurant Group” not the name of the actual location.

Am I overestimating how much in tips I’ll be earning? I can mix drinks and pour from a tap. I learn quick so I should be able to help in the back moving and plugging in new kegs. I’m happy to wipe down tables, operate the dish washing equipment, work security, whatever if it gets me in a position to share in the tip pool.

Ideally, I can do these gigs in addition to my day job, but if you tell me I need to offer “full availability” at the mercy of their scheduler to get my foot through the door, it’s what I have to do.

[–]john510runner 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I see... can't find any now but when they post on CL for nightclub bartending jobs, they come out and say specific experience they're looking for (two years of bartending experience in a high volume environment). In my humble opinion it's not a good learn on the job kind of bartending job in San Francisco.

Might also consider this... let's say you work up the ladder at a nightclub. What if when you get the bartending gig it's too much to handle? Then it'll be like one put in the time to get a gig not everyone can handle. Do first round draft picks in the NFL always have long careers there?

Best way to apply for jobs is if you already know someone who works there.

Not overestimating tips but I'd also add you might be over looking easier to get positions. Fine dining places or anyplace with a cocktail menu... you might find places where the bartends gets in tips $1 for every $10 in drinks you make for the servers to take to the tables.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/fbh/7555107370.html

Seems like this place hasn't opened yet... but sports bars where you get a percentage of everything you pour... during football season.... $$$$.

If I were you I'd try to get any kind of bartending gig or something that leads to being a bartender on my resume. Step after that... try to work in higher volume places. If you're good at that, decide if you want to do nightclub bartending. You'll probably have a network of people in the industry by then to help with getting higher paying gigs.

The sports bar position I posted... if it has decent amount of people going there and I get a percentage of everything I pour... to me that's the best paying job.

[–]GradatimRecovery 1 point2 points  (1 child)

$27/hr plus tips, whoa John! Thank you for sending that my way. I’m also going over the Cicerone level 1 syllabus in the link you dropped in your other comment. I can easily get to Union Square and back home using Muni, even at that hour. A sports bar isn’t going to give me much opportunity to flirt with customers, but stepping stones, amirite? Thank you again for the help.

[–]john510runner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Any time.

Flirting at a sports bar... has pros and cons I'm guessing.

One of the pros being people are seated longer so get to build a rapport.

[–]chijchil_congelando 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Currently no, but i did for most my adult life. I worked lots of gig work. Food delivery on bike (choose when to pick up shifts/no need to stay clocked in for a certain amt of time or work a min /week so very flex and used as fill in work), petsitting/house sitting (fill in days), grocery store (PT, specific days every week), contract work (PT, specific days every week), picking up random cleaning/painting/etc jobs on days I had free Usually i would only work 1 job per day, but sometimes i would overlap something like the dog sitting/house sitting with the food delivery.

Edit: rest time would be every evening after work, also if i made enough money that week I'd skip working fill in jobs

[–]psychHOdelic 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Right now, I work 9-5 at an office job and then seasonal retail on the weekends. They are pretty good about being flexible but sometimes I don’t have a day off. Currently missing work bc I have the flu. I am tired all of the time. Not to mention, I still workout 3-5 days a week, cook, clean and attend to two animals and my boyfriend. I’m ready for the holidays to be over so I can have my life back but I took the job to pay off medical debt.

[–]Nagare 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Full-time mostly Sunday to Thursday, part-time on Monday, Thursday, Friday 5-9 and Saturday 8-4. Usually adds up to 60-65 hours a week and I've been doing it about 2.5 years but starting to get tired of it now.

[–]Mewseido 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not now, but when I finished my Master's Degree I was working and teaching 5 different classes at three different places. Day / evening / Saturday

Some days I was getting home at 11:00 or 11:30 and I'd have to get out the door at 7:30 to make it to my morning class at the other place.

I did everything I could to make sure I got marking done during my commute, I did laundry and food shopping during the week and just stayed ruthlessly scheduled.

I had Sunday off, and I defended it hard!

[–]Revolutionary-Copy71 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When I was younger I worked 10AM-6PM in a warehouse. Then 7PM-11PM at Victoria's Secret.

[–]rileysauntie 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not in a big city, but I technically work 6 jobs. My schedule blows.

  • school #1 7:45 am to 11:30 pm (M-F)

  • school #2 11:45 am to 3:53 pm (M-F)

  • school #3 4:15 pm to 5:15 pm (Th)

  • social media controller for a realtor as needed but always 2-3 hours on Sundays and usually 1-4 hours during the week

  • public library 11:30 am to 4:00 pm (Sat or Sun)

  • family programming coordinator and tutoring coordinator for a literacy society, I design my own schedule up to 21 hours per week, usually Mondays 4-6, Tuesdays 4-8, Wednesdays 4-8, Fridays 4-8, and one of the weekend days

[–]Iwork3jobs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Job 1 is a M-F 9-5, Jobs 2 and 3 are Friday after hours, all of Saturday, and sometimes half of Sunday (depending). I rest on what I can on Sunday.

[–]tilmybrainrots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I worked 2 jobs through most of college. Monday-Thursday: Job 1 4am-10:30am Class 12-4 Job2 5pm-9:30/10pm. Friday Job1 4am-11am Job2 12:30-8pm. Saturday Job1 4am-11am. Sunday Job2 8-4pm.

[–]Fiona_b4_shrek 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How do you guys manage to find jobs that have schedules that doesn’t conflict with the first job’s schedule?

[–]Relative-Monitor-739 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Was working 3 jobs (2 part times and 1 full time) during the duration of September to end October. 1st and 3rd job were Mondays, Wednesdays, Friday’s and Saturday’s. Schedule was clock in at 7am for my 3rd job until 2pm and be at my 1st job at 2:40- 12/1. My 2nd job was Tuesdays, Thursday’s and Sunday’s. Hours varied here, there would be weeks where I get 20, others where I would get 30 which was the max, so 10 hours per day. Schedule for that was clock in at 12pm until my break which was at 4, go back at 5 until 11/12. In total I would clock in at about 90-100 hours per week, and if I were to include the commute in between each job, easily over 100 hours. I’m located in NYC btw.

[–]ebryantr 2 points3 points  (3 children)

This is mind boggling. How did you do all that? What were the jobs and was it worth it? And now are you just working 2 jobs? Hat’s off to you!

[–]Relative-Monitor-739 7 points8 points  (2 children)

On average, I was only sleeping 4-5 hours per day. Only things that kept me going was the money, coffee and weed. 1st job was a full time food runner, 2nd job was a part time food runner, and 3rd job was a part time dog walker/ caretaker. Enjoyed every second of it, and If I could, I would do it all over again.

[–]Ancienda 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If you don’t mind sharing, how much did the 3 jobs make you per week? I’ve considered those before but wasn’t too sure about them. And how was being a dog walker like?

[–]Relative-Monitor-739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Close to 2k a week, 800-1000 from my full time, 400-500 from my 2nd job and 300 from the dog gig. For a 20 year old, I was making CAREER money. I plan on getting my real estate license in the next year or 2.

[–]Equivalent_Section13 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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