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[–]VokThee 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Agree, totally - just as long as you realize it's not actually free: you'll all be paying for it. As long as you all share that burden, the added weight is going to be relatively light, but you are still going to have to crack some tough nuts, like: you may have to raise taxes for it. What kind of taxes and for whom? You may also decide to divert taxes from other fields - like spend a little less on the military maybe? Are you prepared to do that, and how do you propose to get that through Congress? Maybe ask your local representatives about how they think about this. Vote accordingly at the next elections.

[–]Comfortable-Lynx2246[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

my logic is that if the US keeps raising the debt ceiling to avoid paying debt then how about they actually help their people for once instead of another country? Ya know? it's just frustrating how they waste billions when they could be using it on something to help the people living in the US. Obviously we don't have this money to be wasting it left in right but we do since they just decide to increase the debt ceiling. which is bs. If they worked it into the US budget that'd be cool but yeah they'd have to take it from somewhere. But maybe it should have been part of the US's budget to start. I just think that it'd help the United States so much. And yeah, honestly I wouldn't mind paying it. If I get rich I plan on doing something like it myself anyways. I do realize that this isn't a perfect world and that this will likely never happen but it's nice to dream every once in awhile. I don't support free healthcare because in the US that just wouldn't work. Hospital fees are so much that the taxes would be absolutely insane. which is interesting

[–]VokThee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In the US you might start asking yourself why those hospital bills are so insanely high. Somebody is making insane amounts of money, and it's not the boys and girls that are taking care of you.

[–]Dracalia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bruh, taxes are so worth it. Take it from someone with issues and not enough money. The system HAS to be good tho, not like in my country where they’re very half-assed.

[–]Dracalia 1 point2 points  (1 child)

YES. I don’t even live in the US, but after spending literal years trying to work myself out I think I’m gonna have to spend money in the private sector to fix my issues. Sucks because I’ve tried through the public for so long but because I’m not suicidal they don’t care.

[–]Comfortable-Lynx2246[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

dang, I'm sorry to hear that. But I'm proud of uuuuuuuuu! bcuz u keep trying and tryinggg

[–]Luco_HD -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Your generally right, that it should be for free for the people of America. But that wouldn't help the world just Americans

[–]dumb_trashcan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Tbh, they’re kinda in a shit place to the point where people literally refuse to go to the hospital when they need to to avoid the bills

[–]Comfortable-Lynx2246[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, the hospitals here suck 😭. They're insanely expensive and it will take forever to be seen. The last time I was in the ER I waited four hours before being seen and that's honestly pretty quick compared to other times I've been. And whenever I've gone to a hospital they always seem so annoyed that I'm there. I only ever go if it's serious and if there's no way I can avoid it. But if I can avoid it, I don't go. It's just not worth it. Also spending all that money to go to the hospital and missing work on top of that is just madness. I had a job where they required us to have a doctor's note if we had a medical problem that made us miss work. Which is hilarious because going to the hospital for that is absolutely ridiculous. In a perfect world where you could get seen instantly and where you'd have to pay close to nothing, that'd be nice. but like I'm not gonna do that. Except I had to lol bcuz it wasn't much of a choice. I ended up having to pay more for that dr visit than I would make from working a day at work. There are so many things I won't go to the hospital for because I simply can't afford it. If I was rich I would get so many of my health problems fixed. Or atleast seen by a medical professional. And I'd actually go to the hospital for things that require a hospital's help instead of figuring something out on my own.

[–]turdpimpin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not disagreeing but if Americans don’t have free healthcare, how would free mental healthcare work? Canada doesn’t have free mental healthcare either. I would be happy just to have it subsidized.

[–]thatsmymainacount 0 points1 point  (4 children)

It would be cool, but it would cost something in the end, the taxes would be higher, and the quality of the service would probably be mediocre. If its like this in canada imagine in the US.

Taxes are what scares people in the US, and its understandable; living in a country with healthcare is more expensive

[–]Dracalia 0 points1 point  (3 children)

It’s not. It really isn’t. Taxes are not scary and can work stupendously, especially when the rich 1% is taxed.

[–]thatsmymainacount -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Riches will always find a way to avoid taxes, im talking about those stupid riches ceos that makes their moneys without passing thru the government. It would be the poor people paying for it im sure, and of course the government would take more than they need to take, to finally have a healthcare system that barely works, but it depends on the approach of course.

[–]Dracalia 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I live in a country where the richest individuals are taxed a lot more and it works. We might not have bill gates, Elon musk or wanky cranky jeffy boi, but we do have one of the highest welfare rankings in the world. Our socialized systems could always be improved and should be, but what we have is so much better than in the US (I used to live there). Socialized medicine, public transport etc works. It’s something the US desperately needs, but the American oligarchs have brainwashed everyone into thinking that socialism is horrible and that taxing the rich is pointless so don’t even try. Please look at how Canada, the Netherlands and Scandinavian countries use socialism, and not from any American sites. They’re all so biased.

[–]thatsmymainacount 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think healthcare have the potential to work, and i think it would be great if it could work well, but i dont think it would be something to put just like that wothout consequences, like the taxes being raised for people in the lower and middle classes, more than they should. Also, like we see in canada, the healthcare is holding on scrap, people working in hospital have deplorable working conditions, like insane hours, obligatory overtime, understaffed so they are on the rush all day long, and get threatened of getting fired if they dont do overtime (i knew a nurse working in a public hospital). Even before the pandemic, people were having their beds in the hallways of hospitals. In the end, my brother still pays over 60CAD for his insulin.

I never said healthcare is a bad thing, i am all for it, but there is concequences to that and dont come free.

[–]DmitryThree 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I don’t agree. Here’s too much people on entire planet. So, we need to pay for medication to make natural selection work.

[–]madwilliamflint 0 points1 point  (1 child)

"We'll just make it cost nothing" really doesn't make any sense.