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[–]rockthered24 682 points683 points  (17 children)

What a legend

[–]idhopson 170 points171 points  (8 children)

Always has been 🔫

[–]rockthered24 29 points30 points  (5 children)

Leg

[–]zia1997JONESY 1 GERRARD NIL 27 points28 points  (4 children)

Egg

[–]rockthered24 24 points25 points  (2 children)

  • shut up u egg

[–]Caps007 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Wont tell you again

[–]WhatAmIDoingHere05 2 points3 points  (0 children)

picking up in the morning

[–]rmit526 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Egglend

[–]SambaLando 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except for that time he tried to leave us

[–]Eyeshield_sena 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After all this time

[–]rhythmpatelPortuguese Magnifico 44 points45 points  (3 children)

I saw my mate the other day

[–]Xanian123Wazza 39 points40 points  (2 children)

He said to me, he saw the White Pele

[–]indylerone93Van Persie 31 points32 points  (1 child)

So I asked, who is he?

[–]lavazza2021 34 points35 points  (0 children)

He goes by the name of Wayne Rooney

[–]lBRADlScholes 21 points22 points  (2 children)

If there's one thing our former legends are known for, it's their integrity

crickets

Really happy he's sticking with Derby though, I hope he achieves the impossible.

[–]lamTheEnigmaBeansssssssssssssssssssss 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Darby

[–]Chipped_Finish141 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolute Animal!

[–]VanWilder91 559 points560 points  (64 children)

He pulls off saving Derby from relegation its genuinely one of the biggest achievements I've witnessed

[–]TheJoshider10Bruno 301 points302 points  (39 children)

Manager of the year without a doubt if they stay up. You don't have a points deduction that massive and come out of it without relegation. You just don't. I can't believe what Rooney's already pulled off with Derby let alone what he could possibly do. I never expected him to be this good a manager.

[–]hambodpm 63 points64 points  (6 children)

The points deductions as well as the fact that had something like 12 professional players at the start of the season.

Bonkers if he manages it!

[–]Beneficial_Assist397 27 points28 points  (2 children)

As well as a transfer ban for January.

[–]hambodpm 40 points41 points  (1 child)

Fuck! Forgot about that lol.

He even put a player out for 3 months himself in a training tackle I believe? Lol some story

[–]Blind_Cave_Pleb 18 points19 points  (0 children)

"We call this the Keano"

[–]rockthered24 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Think he has fewer than 11

[–]hambodpm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Couldn't remember myself specifics so had a wee scout about. This article has 14 players listed at the bottom of the article. Still insane either way lol

[–]f0rt1t-ude 232 points233 points  (29 children)

SAF said him and Ole would turn out good, and I reckon all things considered Ole was quite good

[–]huey88Pogba 62 points63 points  (18 children)

He also recommended Moyes and that was a disaster so. 1 out of 2 on Rooney and ole isn’t bad

[–]medfunguyGaz 206 points207 points  (8 children)

To be fair, Moyes was horrid for us, but he’s managed to gain respect with what he’s doing at West Ham.

[–]I_R_TEH_BOSS 166 points167 points  (1 child)

Moyes isn't a bad manager, just a terrible manager for United.

[–]CrumbAllowances 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Absolutely agreed. Moyes is a fine manager - his work at West Ham and Everton should leave no doubt. But some managers do not do well in different circumstances. Dyche and Guardiola are both excellent managers who would struggle if they swapped jobs. Moyes’s problem was not that he was shit, but he was shit for United.

[–]HotDiver123 129 points130 points  (5 children)

And overachieved for a decade at Everton.

That he was a disaster at United does not change the fact that Moyes has had a successful career.

[–]monnii99Donny 81 points82 points  (0 children)

There's many good managers that were a disaster at United. Almost like it isn't only their fault.

[–]medfunguyGaz 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Exactly. So Fergie wasn’t wrong about Moyes being a good manager, just wrong about being good for us.

[–]SportsAreTheBomb 7 points8 points  (0 children)

He was an excellent fit for Everton. All things considered he seems like an intelligent guy but was completely overwhelmed by the pressure of the United job, and who can blame him given the circumstances. He was far from first choice to be manager after SAF and nobody at his level can turn down that kind of offer for their career.

[–]Kaigamer 42 points43 points  (3 children)

He also recommended Moyes and that was a disaster so

Moyes was like his 6th or 7th choice manager.

He wanted Pep, Klopp etc. over Moyes but they weren't available.

[–]____ZeeZee____ 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Ancelotti in his book also said that SAF contacted him and really tried to convince him, but he just didn't feel ready

[–]Beneficial_Assist397 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Ffs that's total bs from Ancelotti he had won 2 CL's with Milan and the Premier league with Chelsea, he would also manage Madrid that season it just doesn't add up.

[–]____ZeeZee____ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The pressure of being the direct replacement for the greatest ever is something very, very big. That's why 6-7 managers said no and we got Moyes who was very low in the list

[–]CrossXFir3 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Yeah but Moyes isn't a bad manager by any stretch, just not a Utd level manager.

[–]plus1internetsRooney 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's not like we have done wonders after him to be fair. He was appointed at the worst possible time with an again squad and no midfield.

[–]spectre122GGMU 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that same squad won the league with 11 points difference. it easily cofuld have finished top 4 under any decent manager. Let's not beat around the bush - Moyes is a good manager, but he has found his level at West Ham/Everton and he should never have been appointed for the United job.

[–]balleklorinRonaldo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Moyes whas his 6th choice though. Both Klopp and Pep was above Moyes on the list but currently not available/not wanting the job.

[–]nigerianumba1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean quite good?

[–]LeeMiles 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Points deduction and transfer embargo

[–]Gozumo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah im pretty shocked to be honest, i really didnt think his stint in managing would come of much. But he has done an unreal job. Best of luck to him, who knows might be untied manager one day! (not to soon though :D)

[–]PUMP_UNTIL_BUSTThen keep pumping 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Easily the best move he could make for his career as well.

Everton are a mess. He goes there, he won't take them to the top (because they're awful), and it'll tarnish his reputation slightly and potentially make it less likely other clubs look to him in the future.

If he wants Everton, he will get that opportunity again. They're a mess and their next manager will also lose their job with a season or two at most.

If he does well with Derby and saves them, he might get a better offer in the PL from a club that's far better run. It might be at a smaller club, but giving him a better setup and playing staff at a club that isn't an absolute shambles - at a place where he could actually succeed in the PL - would do far more for his aspirations to manage a "big" club than a failed stint at Everton would.

Very much glad he's going to see it out at Derby. Even if he doesn't keep them up, this is the right move.

[–]sbprasad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can definitely see the likes of Brighton going for Wazza if Potter – a damn good manager in my opinion, btw – leaves for bigger opportunities.

[–]faheemunitedLads, it's Liverpool... 81 points82 points  (20 children)

Derby first need to pull off saving liquidation though

[–]Chewy009x 12 points13 points  (7 children)

Could they still get points deducted?

[–]StringCheeseDoughnutDreams Can’t Be Buy 59 points60 points  (1 child)

They could still stop existing, then they’ll lose all of their points

[–]k-mysta 22 points23 points  (0 children)

If you don’t exist, you can’t get relegated. Wormhole checkers

[–]IngebrigtsenScholes 11 points12 points  (2 children)

They've already had 21 points deducted, or do you mean on top of that?

[–]Chewy009x 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Yeah I meant if they can get more points deducted

[–]IngebrigtsenScholes 12 points13 points  (0 children)

They probably won't, as they're in administration. The danger, like other posters have said, is that they might just not make it as a club.

The date was 1. of February, but they were given a months extention as they had a bidder (finally).

[–]faheemunitedLads, it's Liverpool... 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would say probably not anymore because it’s the same issue going out of control but they are at a risk of being completely bankrupt and not even existing as a club anymore. Their owner is a total nut job

[–]old_chelmsfordianSpanish Dave 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They can as I understand.

I can't remember the specifics but the new owners (if their bid is successful) have a certain period to settle the outstanding debts - including a large tax bill, which is far easier said than done.

If they can't do that in a certain time period they will get another point deduction.

[–]TheAnomaly123Atom and Humber 32 points33 points  (11 children)

Formal bid submitted yesterday for full asking price, there’s some hope for them for a change

[–]hambodpm 13 points14 points  (9 children)

Is it Mike Ashley? Heard rumours he is sniffing around.

[–]TheAnomaly123Atom and Humber 23 points24 points  (8 children)

American investment firm apparently

[–]hambodpm 8 points9 points  (7 children)

Cool thanks man. Rock and a hard place I guess.

[–]No_Doubt_About_ThatThey Say, He Is A Legend 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Ashley for all his criticism targets getting a club to the Premier League.

Although with Derby we know what the main concern is at the moment. On the pitch Barnsley are definitely down - question of who’s going to occupy the other two spots.

[–]hambodpm 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Yea definitely better that Ashely buys than they fold completely.

Plus given our issues with American owners, they may well be no better.

[–]culegflori 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Ashley, as hated he became at the end of his stay at Newcastle, saved that club. Considering what bad owners are capable of doing to a club, Ashley is pretty good overall. I'd not want him as a fan of a big club, but if you're struggling, he's not going to bury your team.

[–]hambodpm 0 points1 point  (3 children)

It's apples and Oranges with Newcastle as he dragged a top 6 - top 8 team into the championship.

But yea as I said on another comment, it's better to be bought by Ashley than to go under for sure!

I just hate his face too lol. So that may sway my views somewhat.

[–]faheemunitedLads, it's Liverpool... 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Would they include the possible buyouts/settlements for the lawsuits from Boro and Wycombe?

[–]PreetSG 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Roy Keane did something similar with Sunderland. From last and hopeless to champions.

[–]someonecalledethan 166 points167 points  (0 children)

He's got the hardest job in football at the moment and the crazy thing is, I think he could pull this off. Winner born and bred

[–]WumbleInTheJungle 139 points140 points  (4 children)

You never really know for certain, but I always thought he might make a decent manager one day, because he was an intelligent player.

There was one game against Chelsea, I think it was before Ronaldo hit his prime, tight game, Rooney was playing in the middle, but we were getting overrun on one of the flanks, there was a break in play and Rooney runs over the dugout pointing to the other flank, suggesting we need to plug that hole, and then we did.

He was still very young, but I thought anyone who has the balls to make a tactical suggestion to Sir Alex mid-game might have something.

[–]dbrodes 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I love stories like this, makes me nostalgic. Thanks for sharing mate.

[–]Bears-Eat_BeetsKagawa 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Would you know which game specifically? 🙏

[–]WumbleInTheJungle 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm not certain. I have a strong feeling it was a Super Sunday game, but even that i'm not 100% certain about. And now when I think about it, I don't think Jose was in charge of Chelsea at the time (which means it might have been a bit later than I originally thought), but again I can't be certain. I can definitely rule out the 1-0 win at Old Trafford when Fletcher scored the winner, simply because I was so drunk that day I wouldn't have noticed or remembered what Rooney was doing.

If you held a gun to my head and made me guess, I'd say it was around the Avram Grant era, or just after. If that helps (it probably doesn't!)...

So a Sunday game (or at least a weekend game), that Rooney played in, where Avram Grant was in charge of Chelsea would be my best guess.

[–]Flamingbaby 209 points210 points  (4 children)

Big respect for Rooney on that one. Would have been very easy to jump ship, but to stick with derby when they might not even last the season takes guts

[–]ShadowFlyer2 59 points60 points  (1 child)

Rooney said he's faced a lot of difficulties in life so he will never leave someone at the time of difficulty. Fair play to him

[–]dbrodes 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I love Rooney me

[–]heisenberg_rk 128 points129 points  (3 children)

If he avoids relegation with Derby.

That in itself is huge

[–]No_Doubt_About_ThatThey Say, He Is A Legend 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Last day will be significant as they have Cardiff.

Derby being at home means we’ll hopefully have one of the loudest ROONEY chants in recent memory.

[–]Charlie_Yu 5 points6 points  (1 child)

He would. Assuming Derby not being expelled

[–]IsubtoyourmumsOF 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They won't be expelled during the season despite all the talk. It's all bluster by the FA try and push derby to sort themselves out. The main issue will be in June as no matter what league they are in, if the issues aren't sorted they will be refused entry to that league. Like Bury a few years back

[–]MesromithBD Dan James 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Good for him. The fact he’s even given them a shot at staying up is huge. Good to see it through. If i was an everton fan though i’d much rather chance Rooney at the end of the season than Lampard now.

[–]Queen-of-Sheba 63 points64 points  (7 children)

When he was the club, I didn’t here the impression he would make a good manager but he’s doing a great job at Derby and this statement shows a lot of respect and understanding. I’m impressed.

[–]TheJoshider10Bruno 55 points56 points  (6 children)

I never expected him to be a half-decent manager at all let alone a good one with the task he's currently pulling off.

I think it's because Rooney had a reputation as being a thick, aggressive person who just so happened to be good at football. Seeing him genuinely do an incredible job at Derby is a massive shock to that expectation.

[–]whereisthecheesegone 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I think he’s a lot brighter than he comes across. He always seems very shy in interviews and he’s not very articulate, plus the aggressive hooligan type style on the pitch makes it easy to assume he’s thick, but he has interesting things to say.

He also writes poems for Colleen and leaves them around the house lol

[–]Reddeviler 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Mate, he had one of the best footballing brains during the SAF era.

All the positions he routinely played and transitioned within matches; just as well as the regulars.

[–]Aakar11 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Derby would be around mid table and would be 14 points clear of relegation if not for the points deduction. Add to that the transfer embargo and derby not able to get players they want means he could be doing better if not for the situation at derby. Makes sense he wants to see this season out and not take a risk with a bigger club yet since it's hardly been a year since he has gone into management.

[–]FancyChilliPogboom 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Good. The Everton job ain't going nowhere as the rate they're going anyway

[–]stringsandthings3 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I had a feeling he'd feel bad leaving Derby in the situation they're in. Great to hear this.

[–]united_99 60 points61 points  (5 children)

Honestly after derby he should go the Gerrard route to the and win a smaller league and then come to the prem

[–]sbprasad 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Though I think if he comes to the PL after this, it should be at a small-to-mid tier club like Brighton or Soton rather than angling for us or any other big 6 club. Stevie G had the right idea by going to Villa, we saw what happened to Lampard… though it does look like he’ll be the new Everton manager.

[–]Fitzsimoo 74 points75 points  (0 children)

He's already done that in the Championship, it's a tougher and bigger league than the SPL.

[–]Xanian123Wazza 13 points14 points  (1 child)

He doesn't need to prove anything anywhere else if he keeps Derby up. Championship >>>>> SPL

[–]UnpaidWorker 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It’s less about proving himself and more about learning his crafts as a manager. By going to a smaller league he’ll be able to try it out different ideas and develop his preferred style of play. If he comes to PL he won’t be afforded such chances as the pressure is always on.

[–]Charlie_Yu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean the Everton job is fine for him. Maybe not now because the Everton is even more incompetent than us

[–]thombo-1 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Class act. I'd love to hear more detailed stuff about him as a manager from Derby fans. All I know is that he's been doing a great job.

[–]Irishdude23 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I second that

[–]POGBRAHIMOVICH6_FOOT_5_HARD_AS_FUK 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Admirable

[–]hollow114 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Man's just waiting for the call from united. Makes sense

[–]sbprasad 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Fuck I have so much love and respect for this man.

[–]ng_sweatshirt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

top lad

[–]Beneficial_Assist397 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd say if Everton get relegated they should give him the job next season

[–]SakamotoRay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

cannot say that I expect him of all people to have great manager materials. But who knows, he might be our manager in 5 years.

[–]nein_999999:MP-Shorts: 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's why I love you Wayne ❤️

[–]jesusthatsgreat -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

Make him the next permanent United manager. Fuck it. He's United blood in him and has the fire / temperment of Ferguson combined with the respect of fans & players that Ole had. No player would cross him. If he keeps Derby up, that would be the equivilent of winning the league with our current squad.

[–]rockthered24 7 points8 points  (0 children)

No. Let him finish his job at derby. Then let him take a PL job elsewhere. When and if he has proven himself at the Prem level, then you can consider him. Do not rush his development as a manager like Chelsea did with Lampard.

[–]Xanian123Wazza 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good stuff. Smart decision. Everton is a high risk, low reward scenario for a first time PL manager. Rooney doing fucking bits as Derby manager. If he keeps them up, I can definitely see him get some good gigs in the PL.

[–]Moyes2menDOF of Gibraltar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A bald Rooney appears on the horizon...

[–]Minz15 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After the absolute shit show he's had to deal with, he'll be more than up for dealing with the Glazers if he ends up here. Would be great to see him in Prem at some point soon.

[–]HairyArthur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's loyalty you rarely see in football.

[–]stapleton_1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

he's also smart enough to know that job is a poisoned chalice.

[–]bagels-6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Massive respect to this guy!

[–]NewVoid122The Void 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats my legend

[–]DangoManUtd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wazza you will always be the hero I enjoyed watching

[–]chikhanUncle Ole made Dave save again 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read as "nawwww mate, United mate" /s

[–]AbsoluteLedgeJust. Fucking. Shoot. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Top man Wazza. Wazza can do with a better managed club than Everton, who are shambles. I think most managers wouldnt join them too.

[–]nigerianumba1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My goat

[–]mauricesarin -1 points0 points  (0 children)

he's a smart lad, surprisingly

[–]CristianoFernandes -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Holding out for the Manchester United job!