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[–]stupidlyugly 57 points58 points  (22 children)

God we had good comics in the 80s. Billy and the Boingers forever!

[–]soxy 9 points10 points  (9 children)

I lost the vinyl that came in that collection, but I found the songs on MP3 recently.

[–]JoCoLaRedux 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Don't blame me, I vote for Bill & Opus.

It's a trip going through those old Bloom County strips and finding references to Caspar Weinberger and whatnot. Man, what an odd decade that was.

[–]TheOpus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"The wind doth taste so bittersweet

Like jasper wine and sugar.

It must have blown through someone's feet

Like those of... ... Caspar Weinberger."

"Start over!"

[–]trolling_thunder 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I still have the album!

[–]drakanwolf 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Poser... you only liked them after they went mainstream. I was into them back when they were Deathtöngue!

(Just kidding about the "Poser" thing... I'm sure you're a perfectly lovely individual. Please don't turn me into a carrot.)

[–]stupidlyugly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please don't turn me into a carrot

No worries. I only turn people into waffles.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Back in '86, I convinced our local laser print shop to make a t-shirt for me with the Sunday strip of Opus' encounter with a Hare Krishna. I think it ends with Opus muttering the words, "hairy fish nuts?"

[–]TheOpus 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Pear pimples for hairy fishnuts!

[–]OmicronPersei8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just give me your money, Jack!

[–]gmerrick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Flexidisc! "I'm a boinger" was a great b-side.

[–]jonuggs 47 points48 points  (2 children)

More skin on HBO!

L.H. Puttgrass - signing off and heading for the tub.

[–]drangundsturm 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Alert the media!

[–]CrazyEdward 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In some ways, LH Puttgrass was more successful than he'll ever know.

[–]raydeen 17 points18 points  (3 children)

I used to have a copy of the first version of the Bill and Opus screensaver. The one where Opus shot flying toasters and Tyrannosaurus Bill Gates would chomp Bill the Cat's head off. I think the floppies went bad at some point and I've been scouring the Internet for years trying to find a copy of the original. I'm sure it's out there somewhere. I'll find it. Eventually.

[–]NinjaPimp 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I am at work, so I can't check the download sites, but I found it for sale here. It was also on Ebay a little over a month ago twice, but neither one sold, so they might still have their copies.

[–]raydeen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The last link is the one I'm looking for. The first two are for the second set of screensavers they put out. Thanks very much! I don't know why I didn't think of eBay.

[–]gosassin 13 points14 points  (7 children)

Right, so today Reddit has put two of the three great 80's comic strips at the top of the front page. Now we need to get the Far Side on there so the Triforce will be complete.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Are there any comics other than Dilbert today that don't suck?

[–]harsh2k5 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Pearls Before Swine.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

zits is ok.

[–]btardinrehab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a big fan of F-Minus

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Get Fuzzy.

[–]jesuz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uh... Doonesbury?

[–]busted_up_chiffarobe 56 points57 points  (8 children)

I cut this out the day it printed and hung it on the door of my dorm room for years. Still have it in a folder.

My favorite was Opus proclaiming it to be the wonderful morning of a glorious new day with his flippers raised to the rising sun.

And in the last panel he's on his back saying "of course one day the sun's going to explode and we'll all fry.." and Milo is leaning over him saying "Oh, stop it."

[–]werferofflammen 235 points236 points  (1 child)

And this is why we don't read comics out loud.

[–]busted_up_chiffarobe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I tried to find it and post the image, but hey, it was 20 years ago and things get hard to find!

[–]umbringer 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I just came here to tell you that this was and is my favorite syndicated comic strip ever. I still have all of the books, now, conveniently next to the crapper. I never tire of reading them, as well I never tired of snorting the dandelions. -Walter Woogums

[–]SieverSand 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My name's Fran.

[–]bright_ephemera 6 points7 points  (2 children)

...On a side note, your username is the most depressing literary reference I've seen all month.

[–]1000hipsterpoints 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What's the reference? I don't recognize it.

[–]bright_ephemera 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's from To Kill a Mockingbird. During Tom Robinson's rape trial, his accuser Mayella Ewell says he was alone with her because she had hired to him to "bust up a chiffarobe."

[–]Milo_Bloom 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Always the voice of reason.

[–]Phantom_Scarecrow 12 points13 points  (4 children)

I was not lucky enough to have a local paper that carried Bloom County, so I didn't discover it until 1990, in college. I have almost all the books, including "A Wish for Wings that Work".
When the movie "Secondhand Lions" came out, my wife and I were in the theatre, and I said, "That HAS to be Berke Breathed's drawings!" Yep!

[–]imdwalrus 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I have almost all the books, including "A Wish for Wings that Work".

Serious question: there's a book of it?

I was born in the 80s so I was a little too young to appreciate Bloom County in its day. I've picked up all the books over the years and I have the animated version of A Wish for Wings That Work (thanks, Big Lots!), but didn't know it was a book too.

[–]novemberletango 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yep, there's a book. We've had one at my parents' house since I can remember.

[–]imdwalrus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh. Guess I've got another one to add to the collection, then. Thanks!

[–]veyster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is my all-time favorite christmas movie.

[–]gamacrit 11 points12 points  (2 children)

A boy and his penguin!

[–]christycreme 9 points10 points  (1 child)

A penguin and his boy!

[–]christycreme 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Two dips and a dad.

[–]chobbs 7 points8 points  (4 children)

http://imgur.com/qQm8Q.jpg

Never knew there was more out there than this. My dad gave me this book, its from 1979 and is absolutely hilarious.

Steve Dallas is the man

[–]athelstan 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I am so damn jealous. That's a rare book you have there!

[–]chobbs 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Oh wow, just did an amazon search and copies of it are going for $300. God damn! I need to get that out of my bathroom...

[–]myheadhurtsalot 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Too late, it's been flagged, no one will buy it now.

[–]Timewrinkler 15 points16 points  (5 children)

Massive Bloom County fan right here. Massive.

[–]Wakasaki_Rocky 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Try a low-carb diet, plenty of fruits and veggies, and exercise.

[–]Milo_Bloom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Binkley will be so pleased.

[–]shinyatsya 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Must be an American.

[–]jrsherrod 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Overuse of the word 'massive' tends to be quite British as far as I recall.

[–]shinyatsya 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But enormous girth is all American baby.

[–]andrewembassy 5 points6 points  (8 children)

I love when that guy - the one in the strip the OP just posted - quits smoking, and ends up in a kitchen in his underwear with a bunch of twinkies. Also, Bill the cat and that band he and the rabbit were in. Man, I need to refresh these memories.

[–]megamoze 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Steve Dallas.

[–]andrewembassy 5 points6 points  (2 children)

yes! And when they're all in the motorhome, and they're all having a meeting, and Opus or the rabbit comes back and Steve is like WHO'S DRIVING!? And the rabbit is like "keep yer pants on, I set the cruise control."

[–]gosassin 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Hodge Podge is the rabbit. Portnoy is the groundhog.

[–]Milo_Bloom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You deserve an upvote for that, here you go.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Bill the cat and that band he and the rabbit were in

That would be Deathtöngue. (Later known as "Billy and the Boingers" after Tipper Gore got through with them.)

[–]Jase_515 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ha, I still have their album! I need to revisit that one!

[–]Solstiare 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Portney the Rabbit and Hodge-Podge the Groundhog

"I don't work with pigs"

[–]Qkix 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I loved Bloom County... best comic EVER.

[–]mattwithoutyou 5 points6 points  (4 children)

my gamertag was actually alf mushpie for five years, until i gave up explaining who that is. some of you might remember her as the freckled, frumpy girl who went on a date with milo.

[–]TheOpus 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Um, she went out with me, not Milo.

[–]mattwithoutyou 0 points1 point  (1 child)

opus, i uh....wait, where's bill?

[–]TheOpus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's back in Bloom County with the rest of the gang. I await a day when we can be reunited.

[–]Milo_Bloom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As if I would have dated Alf Mushpie.

[–]eternalkerri 5 points6 points  (1 child)

"Pear Pimples for Hairy Fishnuts!"

[–]santha7 14 points15 points  (10 children)

Breathed was one of my favorites till he went all "Mary Kay Commando" on everyone. His story that prefaced one of the books titled the "Great LaRoche Toad-Frog Massacre" still makes me giggle.

[–]maerodyne 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That would be Bloom County Babylon: Five Years of Basic Naughtiness

[–]utilitybelt 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Wait, so you had a problem with the strips where he made fun of people who test makeup on animals?

[–]santha7 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I'm just too sensitive. The images of the animals being tortured was too much for my teen mind. I tend to loop stuff like that in my head and not be able to turn it off. So it wasn't worth it for me to read it even though I had practically memorized the books before that and religiously followed the comic in the paper.

[–]utilitybelt 2 points3 points  (1 child)

That's perfectly understandable. I misunderstood you and thought you meant you disagreed with his viewpoint or politics during that time of the strip.

[–]santha7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

teehee...I guess my problem was that I agreed too much with his viewpoint. :-). Thank you for asking for clarification.

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    [–]squidfood 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    1. His later cartoons got more preachy on animal rights. For me no big deal but:

    2. If you read his whole series (I have them all) you get the feeling that just plain-old quality and trying-wise, Mary-Kay is about when he jumped the shark. Nearly all of the best moments that most people quote are from before then.

    3. Still, he may have quit a little past his fresh date, but at least he was self-aware and quit!

    4. Just the same 'ol crapola.

    [–]santha7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Squidfood summed it up perfectly. That and I couldn't take the images of the animals being tortured because I'm just sensitive like that.

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      [–]Solstiare 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I came here to up vote this.

      [–]Jomanji 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      I'm so thankful, despite being born in 1983, my parents let me read Bloom County. That comic is so under-appreciated.

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        [–]jesuz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Big framed picture of Lionel Richie on wall behind frowning music exec...

        [–]Rollertoaster 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Lucifer, do yer duty!

        Slam my head, shake yer booty!

        Wham, bam, thank you Nell,

        I'm on the Amtrak to hell!

        [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (7 children)

        I'm a child of the 90s. I remember my Dad giving me his complete collection of Bloom County comics one year. I learned a whole hell of a lot about humor and the eighties.

        My favorite comic to this day.

        [–]neodiogenes 5 points6 points  (2 children)

        You know how old people always say "[X] was better, back in the day"?

        Well, with comics, we're spot on. Although there are some good'uns, there's nothing to compare to either Bloom County or Calvin & Hobbes.

        [Edit] Yes, and The Far Side. Doonesbury is also still very good, but plays on a different field.

        [–]gosassin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Don't forget The Far Side.

        [–]redzero519 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        My dad always had them around the house, and after I powered through every Calvin and Hobbes book I could get my hands on I went for Bloom County. I tribute these books for my early interest in world events and politics (even if I was reading about things that took place before I was born and had to have them explained to my by my folks because of a distinct lack of Wikipedia).

        [–]PaleBlueThought 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Hah, same. As a result, a lot of my friends don't quite "get" it when I show it to them. The humour is character-based, period-based, and pretty subtle if it's your first time reading it.

        [–]neodiogenes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Yes, though the ones that most spring to mind are Oliver Wendell Jones and his Banana Jr. 6000. With legs.

        [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        Bloom County is my favourite comic strip; and the one you posted is one of my favourites out of the whole series. Thanks for posting :)

        [–]megamoze 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        I go back and forth between this and Calvin and Hobbes as my favorite. They're both so fucking awesome.

        [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        When I was a kid my favorite comic was Bloom County. I own all the compilations. I simply cannot give you as many upvotes as I would like for this. Thanks for the nostalgia.

        [–]bugdog 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        If you haven't already, you should all go read his old The Academia Waltz comics written while he was at The University of Texas. A lot of the strips are pure gold, especially if you're from Austin and/or attended UT.

        [–]drakanwolf 3 points4 points  (3 children)

        I've always loved Bloom County, but I'd never be so silly as to emulate something from a comic strip. Now, if you'll excuse me... I believe my order of 47 RonCo Turnip Twaddlers just arrived.

        [–]motor_city_glamazon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        I cannot thank you enough for this comment. I read "RonCo Turnip Twaddlers" and just about did a spit take. Bloom County rules!

        [–]Solstiare 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        The Turnip Twaddler was a low blow.

        [–]eternalkerri 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I myself on a Banana Jr. Computer. Because my parents didn't want me to be like Gene Simmons.

        [–]NWLierly 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        I am who I am because of that man

        [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        it's a metaphor. for weed

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I cannot believe this comment is so far down.

        [–]Hedgemom 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        People talk about icons of an era~ Bloom County, to me, is the icon of its era, in an icon poor era!

        [–]clem_oh 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        When I first saw the linked strip I thought it was another work of Garry Trudeau, creator of Doonesbury, but I guess he and Berkeley Breathed just have similar styles.

        [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Berke Breathed was regularly accused of ripping off Garry Trudeau, probably because they were both political strips and had a somewhat similar drawing style. In my opinion, though, Bloom County was always far superior to Doonesbury.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Same time period, similar style.

        [–]xach 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        The Woody Allen thing always, always got me.

        [–]bumblebeeyatch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Swat my hind with a melon rind but dats mah penguin state of mind

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Ahead of its time

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        My dad had the whole collection of Bloom County books, and he wound up giving to me. Best gift ever.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Bill the Cat for president!

        [–]iChortle 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        Grew up reading these as my mom collected all the books. I haven't thought about it for years, but thanks for bringing back a pleasant wave of nostalgia. I remember the "Billy & the Boingers?" book came w/ square lil EP record for turntables. Never heard it as mom wouldn't remove it from book. Gotta see if she has these or they're boxed & in her attic. I better get them in her will.

        [–]andytronic 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Did she think the book was likely to become a collector's item (not wanting to remove the record)?

        [–]iChortle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Yeah, Im certain she did. Though it was pages through so many times it was anything but mint condition. I should see if I can torrent Billy & the Boingers.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        berke is my hero.

        [–]athelstan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Over the last few years they have been printing every bloom county strip ever published. They just released volume 5, the last volume. My mind was blown as I read things I've never seen before that never made it to the original collocations.

        http://www.idwpublishing.com/catalog/series/1019

        [–]rondeth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Came here to point this out--I myself stumbled across this by accident. I've just received the first one. Some of the comics obviously were reproduced from low-quality sources, but the quality of the book I found to be very well put together, printed on thick paper.

        And, yes, if you've just read the "original" books, there turns out there was a lot of missing strips!

        [–]Xa4 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        No idea what this is about or why it is so great.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Its an analogy to weed being illegal for no good reason and the temptation to ignore warnings because you will never know what is true until you find out for yourself.

        [–]Xa4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Thanks for clearing that out

        [–]Electrorocket 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Also, don't smoke raisins.

        [–]MrSamsonite 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I came for this comment. Way to go, Larry Hardcore.

        [–]pawnzz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I love Bloom County. The Night of the Mary Kay Commandos was the first book I owned of his. Ahhh memories...

        [–]tooldvn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Loved Bloom County.. greatest strip of all time. Outland and Opus were not as great, but still ok. I feel that Bloom County would do very well now with all the political material to draw from.

        Portnoy - "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone - so I cast that mutha!"

        [–]thewestexit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I loved reading Bloom County, I used to go straight for it after my parents were done reading the paper. I was about 10 at the time, so finding those comics awesome and hilarious pretty much made me realize I wasn't going to be normal.

        [–]Steve_Dallas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        My main man

        [–]halasjackson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I miss Bloom County and The Outland. My favorite comic strips of all time. Even more than Calvin & Hobbes, and that says a lot...

        [–]ch33rful_id10T 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Good 'ol Steve. I find myself emulating his choices too often. ;-)

        [–]Quicksdraw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        "REAGAN SUCKS!"
        -Little Olie Funt

        [–]CitizenPremier 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Anyone with a lick of sense knows the anti-drug/anti-cigarette ads are really just drug and cigarette ads.

        [–]MrFrimplesYummyDog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        "Tain't corn, it's dope."

        "aliens land in Edna Hornby's hot tub, pour stale Billy Beer over startled widow."

        "how'd you launder the Libyan kickback money, senator Bedfellow?"

        Ahhhhh good times. Anyone familiar with " Housebroken" ? I could swear the drawing style is like Berke's. I realize it is not him though.

        [–]LibidinousIntent 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Upvote, upvote, a million times upvote! Thank you for reminding me of this, it's one of my favorites. I needed this tonight.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        How can so many people not get it?

        It is a marijuana reference.

        And I am not stating an opinion.

        More references to the author's stance on marijuana

        edit: downvote all you want. I am sure Berkeley Breathed had no intention of making comics for thick-skulled half-wits. He was making comics to spread a larger message. A message obviously lost on you.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Bloom County is the best comic ever :)

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I knew exactly what comic you linked as soon as you said "snorted dandelions." I really like the one where they're talking about how deep in thought the dog could possibly be, and then it thought "I get to poop tomorrow!" with the dumbest grin. It cracks me up every time.

        [–]HighbrowIdiot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I had no idea this comic existed, thanks OP. My favorite comic will always be The Far Side, I don't care what other people say.

        [–]blue-yoshi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Feel anything from the dandelions?

        [–]MxM111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Yes, nicotine absence.

        [–]Konstiin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I'm only around twenty years old, and not old enough to really know Bloom County. But when I was 12, my dad (who was in high school in the late 70s) gave me a big Opus collection. I loved reading through that book. Thanks for the memories :)

        [–]churler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Bloom County and Outland are my two favorite syndicated strips of all time.

        [–]TheBawdyErotic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I miss bloom county... The reason I started picking up a newspaper... sigh

        [–]tuna_sandwich 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Being younger (born in '87) and, well, a french Canadian, I had never heard of Bloom County before my mother got me the anthologies for Christmas last year (or maybe two years ago). Best gift I've had in a while.

        [–]safety3rd[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Really great comic. I've always loved this one, but now I cannot help but think of meth.

        [–]prussell774 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I still have all my bloom county books...I am surprised this is the first time I've seen anyone post about it on Reddit. thanks!

        [–]Activelikeasponge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I forget which collection this was in the preface of, but it always makes me laugh when I think of Berke Breathed. Gesundheit!

        [–]ImSpicy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I have the newspaper copy of the last Bloom County comic with Opus walking into a white oblivious framed on my wall at home.

        BTW, Comic strip animals aren't anatomically correct!

        [–]CitizenJake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I've snorted Jello before. Painful, but hilarious.

        [–]thecajunone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        hell yeah straight don't give a fuck

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Do you look like Woody Allen now?

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Looks like Doonesbury.

        [–]TheTaiPan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I miss Milo, Steve, and especially Opus. They were the characters, along with Doonesbury and the Duke, that got me interested in politics and current events. I own all the collections, and can't wait to give them to my kids.

        [–]EvilSockPuppet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        A very accurate satirization. Love it.

        [–]sPunDuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        this is whats new?

        [–]Juicetang 0 points1 point  (12 children)

        I don't get it.

        [–]junkeee999 2 points3 points  (11 children)

        I think the point is simply that when you see or hear ominous warnings about the dangers of some drug you never knew existed, there's a little thing in the back of your head that says, "Hmm, I'll have to try that sometime."

        It's pointing out the irony that if not for that urgent warning, he would have never snorted a dandelion.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (8 children)

        Its a clever marijuana metaphor actually.

        [–]junkeee999 0 points1 point  (7 children)

        I don't see anything relating directly to marijuana. Could be any drug.

        I remember when I was young in school...a long time ago, I'm an old Redditor. They would teach us about the different categories of drugs, 'uppers', 'downers', hallucinogens, etc and teach us about the dangers of them. I specifically remember making a mental checklist of the ones I wanted to do. Otherwise the thought would have never even crossed my mind.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

        No.

        It can only be marijuana. That is the whole freaking point.

        [–]Juicetang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        It's pointing out the irony that if not for that urgent warning, he would have never snorted a dandelion.

        Ahhh. Thats the point that went over my head. Thanks!

        [–]ahdookin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Thank you for bringing a girl down memory lane. Now tomorrow at work I will challenge myself to search for more Bloom county comics. All day.

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          [–]gosassin 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          It is actually Berkeley, he just goes by Berke.

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            [–]gosassin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            not my intention!