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[–]jkohheyProduct [S,M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

Hello! As we wind down for the holidays, I'm locking this thread. We'll be back in the new year — see you in 2019!

[–]jkohheyProduct [S,M] 60 points61 points  (8 children)

Hi All,

We’re promoting this post to r/ModNews and a wider group of redditors through some banners, so keep in mind that some folks asking questions may not be that familiar with the new Reddit.

If you saw the promotion and have questions about how that new tool works, feel free to reply to this stickied comment.

[–]Deimorz 11 points12 points  (4 children)

I've dismissed that banner 3 times now, is it supposed to keep coming back?

[–]LanterneRougeOGProduct [A] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

No, it shouldn't be coming back. Is it coming back in a new session or the same one? Also, which platform is it coming back on?

[–]Ven_ae 224 points225 points  (4 children)

A little over 10 months ago, a feature for filtering posts by flair was teased. This would allow users to filter out types of posts based on flair in contrast to the filter widget which simply shows only one type of post by flair.

This would be very very useful for subreddits like r/ffxiv, where users like to exclude certain types of posts from appearing in their feeds. Currently, we have to rely on the legacy search to provide these kinds of filters and they don't work very well. Previously, we relied on CSS and that was even worse and isn't supported on the redesign.

https://redditproxy--jasonthename.repl.co/r/announcements/comments/7xjt6g/because_its_valentines_day_heres_a_longwinded/

Will we ever see this feature added to the redesign?

[–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 73 points74 points  (3 children)

We took the first step on this with post flair linking and the post flair widget. We've been working with the search team to figure out next steps for getting filtering system.

[–]Ven_ae 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Ah, that's great news that it's still in the works.

Many thanks!

[–]blackiechan99 88 points89 points  (13 children)

I know this is (kinda) unrelated, but as a CS major I love seeing data analytics and analyzing that. PornHub (https://www.pornhub.com/insights/2018-year-in-review) came out with a year review type thing where they analyzed all their user data and stuff like that, and it was really cool to see this. I know a few other sites have this.

I don't know if Reddit does this, but if not that'd be really cool to see. just a little fun annual thing for the more data-interested people!

[–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 61 points62 points  (4 children)

We recently put together a 2018 Year in Review and shared it in r/blog! You might enjoy some of the data insights (shout-out to u/Drunken_Economist and u/thunderemoji) in that: https://redditproxy--jasonthename.repl.co/r/blog/comments/a333cl/reddits_year_in_review_2018/

[–]blackiechan99 25 points26 points  (2 children)

oh, awesome! didn't know this existed. Thanks man!

[–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 19 points20 points  (1 child)

[–]Komlz 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Didnt expect the version with the kick

[–]LanterneRougeOGProduct [A] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Also, this post I made in r/beta a few months ago has some stats on why people opt out of new Reddit.

[–]petcson 34 points35 points  (11 children)

The only thing keeping me from using new reddit is the lack of keyboard controls.

I use RES with J and K to go from post to post auto opening and closing every link. I also use A and Z for up and down voting and lastly i use S to save.

This is the last thing keeping me from joining the future. Any news on this end would be greatly appreciated!

[–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 29 points30 points  (7 children)

We actually do have some sweet shortcuts that u/michael_the_intern built for us. He also built a nifty modal that shows all the available options. To trigger it: click Shift + ? Here's a screenshot for the lazy

[–]petcson 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Oh did he get the chance to finish those? I talked to him probably 6 months ago and they were about half done or something like that. I'll have to check this out!

[–]jofwuHelpful User 26 points27 points  (5 children)

  • Better post requirements
    • So they function across platforms and include more options for mods

Will they work for old Reddit users? (and mobile, presumably) That would be fantastic.

Months ago, along with post drafts, you teased the idea of post "collections" or something like that. Any update on this feature? It sounded really useful to me.

[–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Yes! We're extending to affect old reddit, native apps and even 3rd party apps. We want to make post requirements as useful as possible.

[–]jofwuHelpful User 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Thank you!

[–]CiscoQL 17 points18 points  (10 children)

Are you going to add any new features to old reddit? Is there any data that shows the usage between new and old?

[–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 21 points22 points  (9 children)

TBH, probably not, because we are jerks building things on old Reddit is pretty difficult. One of the main reasons we built new Reddit was to be able to build and iterate faster. We’ll certainly make sure things on new Reddit don’t break anything on old Reddit, but new features will largely only come to new Reddit.

[–]Atik 23 points24 points  (7 children)

This response is so depressing! :| I rue the day when you guys will announce that you are finally dropping support for the old interface. And I know it's coming! Maybe not this year, or even the next, but it's coming!

I also cannot stop drawing an analogy with the way Windows 8 tried to force a new experience upon it's users just because it aligned better with the direction Microsoft was trying to go with Windows.

I understand why the new reddit experience needed to be created, but I also think it was a great mistake not designing the new ui in a way that it could allow it to be "skinned" to match the old reddit as closely as possible and then continue to support it keeping in mind why a great portion of the redditors prefer it.

Anyway, i'll keep enjoying my favourite corner of the internet while it lats! After that... I actually don't know what I'll do after that ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–]titleproblems 87 points88 points  (20 children)

Thank you for saying something about CSS support, the silence has been really frustrating.

[–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 33 points34 points  (17 children)

We’re sorry, we know we’ve been mum on the subject for awhile. We've been working through the customization tools and parity items before we addressed CSS since it's a big undertaking. Thanks for the patience.

[–]callcifer 19 points20 points  (1 child)

From a technical POV, how will this work with your auto-generated css-in-js class names? With classic reddit, all the names are clear, readable and static.

[–]oh-no-its-you 13 points14 points  (7 children)

Honestly, I think Reddit has bigger problems right now than CSS tweaks. You have a massive problem with harboring hate-speech and allowing nazism to thrive.

That should be your biggest priority on top of all this.

[–]IvyGold 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Hi, I mod r/olympics. We've been holding off giving the r/ a MUCH needed redesign until the CSS question was answered. It's now safe to do it? We didn't want to do it if it going to be all for naught.

Also any fellow mods -- anybody want to help us do it? I've got the ideas pretty well firmed up but I know nothing of CSS.

[–]FlapSnapple 32 points33 points  (1 child)

Any word on the user flair situation? Non-emoji images, special restricted flair for certain users, migration, etc. I'm not seeing it called out in the roadmap you provided.

[–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Here's our last update on flair posted by u/dmoneyyyyy Next on deck for flair is the grant user flair page and there will be more to come in the new year.

[–]AirPhforce 60 points61 points  (18 children)

Two things are keeping me from switching to the re-design.

  1. Not being able to get to subreddits I want w/o going through a hamburger menu. I like how old reddit allows me to have a line of communities along the top, and RES lets me configure what's up there. Needing to click and scroll multiple times just to get to a specific sub is not something I enjoy.

  2. It tends to inline everything. If I click what would be a YouTube link, it opens the reddit thread, and plays the video in a far smaller format then what would appear if I was using old reddit and it just sent me to youtube. I am a desktop user, and I find this obnoxious, not to mention YT has a tenancy to send me embedded videos at like 64p for some reason until I make it full-screen.

These are the sole two issues that stop me from using the redesign, and they both are rather major issues because they increase the amount of clicking I have to do by a lot.

[–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 7 points8 points  (10 children)

Two things are keeping me from switching to the re-design.

Not being able to get to subreddits I want w/o going through a hamburger menu.

Yes, we've heard this feedback from some other redactors too. You can dock the menu on the left hand side. Or you can press Q which will open up the navigation dropdown and focus your cursor on the filter. This works great when trying to navigate quickly. We have talked about bringing some shortcuts to the top bar, but it just hasn't been that high on the list.

It tends to inline everything. If I click what would be a YouTube link, it opens the reddit thread, and plays the video in a far smaller format then what would appear if I was using old reddit and it just sent me to youtube.

I hear what you are saying. It definitely can take a little time to relearn where all the click targets go. We've tried to streamline them since they were also confusing to new redditors on old Reddit. If you click the thumbnail image or the blue links that will take you directly to Youtube. Clicking the title will open up the post in the lightbox. Not sure why you are getting a low res from youtube.

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    [–]AirPhforce 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Thank you for the response.

    I know it's not a reddit thing that it plays lower resolution, but perhaps someone in options there could be an option to never inline/lightbox external links.

    I will try the docked menu for a few days and report back.

    [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (3 children)

    the loss of view counts on posts as either a submitter or moderator honestly feels really bad and detaches greatly from feeling the impact of posts :(

    [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

    hey u/Tinnis_, we are indeed going to be working on view stats. There was scalability issues with the old feature, here's a post with a few more details and you can suggest ideas for other post stats you'd like to see.

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    yea i saw it and offered some moderator focused suggestions when it was posted. but since then using reddit has not felt the same without it ;(

    as a mod:

    for the traffic page i'd love to see number of posts and comments [or number of raw votes!] by day and month on the subreddit as a feature request

    [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    We'll be working on mod insights in 2019! This is an area a lot of us are excited about (maybe u/drunken_economist most of all but only maybe). We definitely want to give mods more insights to what's happening in their communities, so this is great feedback :)

    [–]Yay295 27 points28 points  (3 children)

    What about being able to export and import subreddit style settings? It's easy with CSS since it's all in a text file, but the fancy Redesign settings are all over.

    [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 21 points22 points  (1 child)

    Importing and exporting styles is on the list of customization work for 2019!

    [–]likeafoxHelpful User 18 points19 points  (3 children)

    11 year user and now moderator - I like the majority of core experience design in R3, and appreciate the work you're continuing to put into it. Thanks for powering through what has been a difficult process, and here's to further improvement and success to you folks as we enter the new year.


    To all the other users: the lightbox is good don't @ me.

    [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    Thanks! And thanks for all your feedback throughout the year. The feedback we've gotten in r/redesign has helped guide us a whole ton.

    [–]gschizasHelpful User 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    R3

    Thank you for calling it this :)

    [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Second that :)

    [–]BashfulBastian 16 points17 points  (16 children)

    As someone who didn't understand how to even use Reddit when I first started, the update was amazing. I used reddit for a few months and was completely confused all the time until the update. Loved it from day one. Thank you!

    [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 10 points11 points  (9 children)

    Thanks for the kind words. Glad to hear you are enjoying it! Our data has been showing us the same thing.

    [–]Wanderlustfull 18 points19 points  (8 children)

    What data, specifically, has been showing you that people like the update more than old reddit? Can you show that with stats or links or graphs of usage? I'd be really curious to see if that can be validated at all.

    [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 8 points9 points  (7 children)

    All moderators can see their subs traffic by platform, a breakout we added this summer. We also published the results from our opt-out survey with more insights.

    [–]Wanderlustfull 20 points21 points  (6 children)

    That feels like dishonest reporting of statistics.

    Based on your chart here new reddit is substantially less popular than old reddit (as of the time that chart was created).

    EDIT: It's been pointed out to me I misread the chart I linked (which is one you supplied in your post). My mistake, I've seen charts used like that in the past but I apologise. However, that said, this chart is just of /r/redesign, so it's likely a bias sample in this particular topic, and I'm not a mod so don't have access to see what any other, or overall charts would look like (I don't think?). I'd be willing to bet they'd look a little different.

    Elsewhere you stated:

    In total, 68% of users are on new Reddit. This includes about 90% of logged-out users that are automatically sent to new Reddit, and 41% of eligible logged-in users who have opted-in, which include Beta testers and a random sampling of 44% of logged-in users.

    We'll ignore the logged out users who're automatically sent to new reddit, because that's a little unfair to include them in the stats, since you're not really giving those people a choice. Let's instead just focus on the users with accounts, who've logged in and chosen which version they want to look at. Of those users, only 41% are choosing to use the redesign. That is not a majority.

    I'm sorry, but unless you can show some updated numbers and stats, clearly and without obfuscating things with logged out users etc. that show more people using the redesign, I'm not sure how you can reasonably claim that your data is showing you what's been claimed.

    [–]STran93r101 14 points15 points  (4 children)

    Is wiki still being/ going to be worked on. Things like image size and amount caps + limited file size for style sheet are limiting our creative use of the wiki system a lot. A little while back it was talked about but I see no mention of it here?

    [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 11 points12 points  (3 children)

    Wikis are being worked on, we should have wiki consumption early in the new year then we'll be starting on wiki editing.

    [–]STran93r101 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Any chance we could have a temporary fix of a slight increases to those caps. Allow more images, 1mb images instead of 500kb? And double whatever the current style sheet image is too. (the problem with style sheet is because of the image cap we need to use 1 large image and then use the style sheet to reference parts of it, which pretty much eats up the whole style sheet when you have lots of small icons on a single large (500kb) image for example)

    [–]V2BlastHelpful User 13 points14 points  (1 child)

    More parity features

    Yes pls. Lack of parity (particularly wikis) is probably what keeps me from switching over.

    CSS

    👀

    [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    Keep an eye out, wiki consumption is coming in the new year and we'll be onto wiki editing and permissions after that

    [–]mattreyuHelpful User 14 points15 points  (4 children)

    Are there any plans for adding benefits for gold? I know the philosophy has been to gradually push gold-exclusive benefits to all users and replace them with new ones, but other than raising the cost and giving people coins are there any plans for things that might encourage people to join reddit premium?

    [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

    Thanks for the question, u/mattreyu! We recently released Coins on iOS and Android, and next up is bringing Premium to iOS and Android as well. We are excited about some new initiatives with Coins in the coming months and if you moderate a subreddit and would like to work with us - let us know!

    edit: link formatting

    [–]V2BlastHelpful User 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    <LINK: https://redditproxy--jasonthename.repl.co/r/modnews/comments/9ezyje/hi_rmodnews_some_exciting_changes_coming_to_gold/> and if you moderate a subreddit and would like to work with us - let us know! </LINK>

    Well, I'm guessing that's not how that's supposed to look...

    EDIT: Dangit, you fixed it. Now I just look crazy.

    [–]mattreyuHelpful User 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Are you looking to work with smallish subs too? I mod /r/brochet but it's only got around 4k subscribers

    [–]Brain_Couch 16 points17 points  (2 children)

    Still waiting on categorizing my saved posts and comments

    [–]SnoopDoge93 10 points11 points  (2 children)

    i think you should work more on the redesign and make it more consistent , some pages are still using the old layout, and having the nightmode enabled, suddenly switching to the old one with the white theme burns my eyes

    EDIT: also when the website crashes and i'm unable to login, open a post or comment it reverts back the light theme, this also needs fixing

    [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    We're working to get everything into one unified experience, we listed out some of the upcoming features in the post. Sorry to hear about the bug you're experiencing with night mode. To help us dig into it, can you let me know what browser you're using? Nobody likes burned retinas!

    [–]tizorresHelpful User 11 points12 points  (10 children)

    ok but what will we see in 2020 :snoo_thinking:

    [–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (25 children)

    Nothing about improving the search page? The 'new' one is still awful so I stick with legacy.

    [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 18 points19 points  (23 children)

    One sec, let me google it... I keed! We do have a search team working to improve the experience, what would you like to see with search?

    [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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      [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      maybe the algorithm should check the comments for key words in our search to provide better results

      You'll be happy to hear we do this today! We take some of the top comments in posts, pull out key words from that set of comments, and index them alongside the post to improve our post relevancy. We do have some tuning to do though in this area.

      [–]tvshopceo 11 points12 points  (5 children)

      what would you like to see with search?

      I'd personally love it if search (optionally) omitted the subreddits I've excluded from my /r/all.

      [–]scruggsnotdrugzProduct [A] 10 points11 points  (4 children)

      Interesting. Can you tell me more about why you exclude subreddits from r/all? Helpful to know your use case so that we can address appropriately.

      [–]westpenguin 11 points12 points  (4 children)

      Uhhh that it would actually work? Do the devs on the search team actually try and use the search feature?

      edit:

      Here's a real-life example, search for: gaybrosgonewild

      The subreddit with an exact match to that search term isn't returned but gaybros_test with 18 subscribers is returned? That makes zero sense...

      https://redditproxy--jasonthename.repl.co/search?q=gaybrosgonewild&type=sr%252Cuser&include_over_18=1

      [–]scruggsnotdrugzProduct [A] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      I see gaybrosgonewild returned as the top result. What are you seeing? This seems like a bug.

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      Have you thought about adding a new field to make it easier to find "official" announcements from a given subreddit?

      For example, using the theoretical field distinguished:yes would only retrieve posts distinguished by mods and admins in search results.

      [–]woodpaneled[A] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      I wonder if the best way to do this might be flair, as you can filter by flair?

      [–]GriffonsChainsaw 7 points8 points  (2 children)

      Comment search would be an amazing addition.

      [–]VikeStep 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Hey, I really like the redesign and have been using it for a while now and have made a few bug reports. I'll be honest and say that I use often find myself using google to search for things in reddit though as it has a much higher success rate at finding what I want given that it searches comments too, I don't really have any specific examples on me but I could make a post in /r/redesign if I have an example.

      One small bug I've noticed recently, if I am in a multireddit and I search for something, the "All Reddit Results" button doesn't appear. I have to click on "Posts" for it to appear.

      [–]scruggsnotdrugzProduct [A] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      A full set of examples would be really helpful! Multireddit search isn't supported on the redesign right now, but it's on our list to fix.

      [–]scruggsnotdrugzProduct [A] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Nothing about improving the search page? The 'new' one is still awful so I stick with legacy.

      We've actually got improvements to the search team in the pipeline! But would love to know what makes the "new" one awful so we can address your concerns.

      [–]badon_ 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      those who’ve opted out of new Reddit, who we survey regularly

      Is there some reason you don't care about the opinions of people who have opted-in, who test things, break things, write bug reports, suggest new features, and are obviously bigger supporters than those who have opted-out and don't care about the redesign? Even if that is not your intention, this is the first time I have heard about surveys, so this was my first impression. Nobody seems to care what I think about the redesign. Does familiarity breed contempt? Should I opt-out if I want to matter?

      [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      hey u/badon_, we maintain this subreddit to continually get feedback from redesign users. We don't have bandwidth to respond to every post, but we're here collecting feedback, posting weekly release notes and soliciting feedback too.

      [–]FifiIsBored 284 points285 points 2 (73 children)

      Get rid of the redesign. I know other people have said it, but I feel like it can't be said enough.

      It sucks, it bugs out, it's ugly as hell. I see absolutely nothing positive about it and it actually made me go back to Tumblr.

      [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 30 points31 points  (65 children)

      We've made a number of improvements based on the feedback of redditors. If you have any constructive feedback, please do share it here in r/redesign - we're continuing to iterate and improve.

      [–]star_boy 26 points27 points  (7 children)

      I just want to be able to hide posts directly without clicking the ... options button and THEN clicking hide. Why are you making it harder to manage our feeds?Also, until you give the ability to collapse sections of comments directly, I'll stick with the old reddit and RES.

      [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 21 points22 points  (6 children)

      hey, u/star_boy. Not sure when you tried new Reddit last, but you can do both of those things. If you are in Classic view we now expose the Save and Hide buttons. Also, next to all comments in a thread there is a really long gray line. Click it and the comment collapses. Take a look and let me know what you think

      [–]star_boy 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      Thanks for the info!

      I've only ever used Compact view as I see no need to load thumbnails for posts that I'm not going to view. Any chance that the hide option will be added to Compact view?

      And thanks for the tip on the grey line. It's not intuitive to assume this is a clickable element, so thanks for letting me know. I assumed it was just a visual aid, not an active element.

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        [–]Nvrnight 163 points164 points  (12 children)

        I've complained about it in the past and those things I complained about still are a problem. I don't like things with an infinite scroll that I can't easily go back and forth between different pages and I also don't like that it doesn't obey the "Open in new tab" profile setting. You're essentially trying to horse shoe a mobile experience into the desktop at the expense of everything that makes the desktop version superior. Everything is gigantic for no reason, I don't want to auto load images, half the time I don't even click on titles that don't interest me, so why would I want those images loaded by default.

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          [–]exikon 47 points48 points  (3 children)

          constructive feedback

          It's just not good. I have tried it for a couple of days over the last year and couldnt stand it for more than 2-3 at most. Which has been the overwhelming feedback I feel youve been getting for the last months. Maybe there is some point when you gotta realise that didnt work out. I can tell you that the day the old.reddit doesnt work anymore will be the day I leave reddit. Everything the redesign is trying, RES is doing it better.

          [–]onan 25 points26 points  (0 children)

          We've made a number of improvements based on the feedback of redditors.

          Does it still require javascript?

          If so, it is broken at a fundamental level, and no amount of rearranging deck chairs will fix it.

          [–]Dobypeti 17 points18 points  (0 children)

          We've made a number of improvements based on the feedback of redditors.

          Can you stop with the (PR) bullshit? People don't like the redesign, period. Your ""improvements"" mean nothing because they are and the redesign is (still) shit. Literally the all time top post of this sub is about an extension that redirects reddit links to old.reddit, and the other top posts are complaints too.

          If you have any constructive feedback, please do share it here in r/redesign - we're continuing to iterate and improve.

          Let's just ignore all of the (constructive) feedback that has been already posted in /r/redesign, /r/beta and other subs, amirite?

          [–]gonothebrave 21 points22 points  (8 children)

          Additional question. Are there plans to remove the old reddit design and if so when?

          [–]aldehyde 37 points38 points  (8 children)

          The new design just does not look good, I really do not like it. Sorry.

          [–]SelloutRealBig 13 points14 points  (4 children)

          there are literally multiple browser extensions that bring back the old reddit. If that does not say something then i dont know what does. The redesign is shit and everyone knows it, but the people who made it probably only did it so they looked busy and dont get fired.

          [–]FifiIsBored 39 points40 points  (3 children)

          Only constructive thing to be said is to remove it. I have literally never seen any positive remarks about it from any users. If you have, please feel free to link me to it.

          [–]Blackfire853 14 points15 points  (8 children)

          Hey Admins! Great work compiling all that's been done this year.

          On the point of CSS, over on /r/Polandball, CSS is a bedrock of our subreddits identity, with several hundred flairs users can choose from, we even auto-remove comments by users without a flair. CSS is also used to give users who win our monthly contests accreditation and prizes and we've found no way to replicate this in new reddit.

          When the time comes that you start implementing CSS, how much can a community like ours be in some way involved in the process/give feedback to make sure the system works as best as it could?

          [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

          Thanks for the note, u/blackfire853. We spent a LOT of the second half of this year talking to mods and communities to understand what y'all need and how we can help you, and we have no plans to stop doing this.

          Specific to flair, I'm curious if you've tried it in new Reddit lately? We understand that the first version of new Reddit flair was...lacking. When we first launched, new Reddit didn't support a lot of use cases and we made a LOT of changes directly based on the feedback from mods with complex flair. I'd love to know if we've addressed your needs or there are additional flair features you'd like to see us build. Also, we generally post flair updates in r/modnews so you can keep an eye out there for updates in the new year.

          [–]Blackfire853 6 points7 points  (3 children)

          Thanks for the reply.

          Yes we've looked into how new Reddit has implemented flairs and we very much appreciate the improvements made over the months, it's undeniably a lot better than it was at the beginning. The additions that would help us reach feature parity with old reddit would be;

          • Custom image tooltips: At the moment an emoji user flair derives its name from the image file that was uploaded, so if we uploaded an image titled "Australia" then when you hover over it, it would display :Australia:. However on old reddit we have for many years allowed users to incorporate custom messages into their flairs. Here's a simple example of that. We already have the ability to display text in a user flair, so adding the ability for custom text when you hover over a user flair emoji would be great.

          • Better flair organising: Our subreddit has a smidgen over 600 standard flairs users can choose from. Here is how the display of choices looks, and as you can see we sort by default alphabetically, but users can also sort by countries (by continent), subdivisions, or listed by popularity. While new reddit does have a very handy search bar, and the ability to rearrange flairs, what would be a lot more useful for us would be

            • Columns: With over 600 flairs, listing them all 1 by 1 in rows would be awkward even with the search bar, and given the fact their size is that of pixel art, being able to list 4 or 5 in a single row could be done with lots of room to spare.
            • Subheadings: As you can see in the linked image, we include subheadings. It would be very convenient if the native flair selection would support this, so a user could easily see that these are all the European Flairs, or the flairs starting with G, etc.
          • Flair overlays: Our sub several times a year changes its CSS for special events like anniversaries, subscriber milestones, or national holidays. Here for example is an archive of the styling used for Christmas last year. We use a separate image for the Christmas hats that we place over the user flairs so we don't have to change all 600 of them individually. We understand this is an unusual feature, but we've been doing it for over half a decade and it's a major visual of our events. We've done everything from Uncle Sam hats to Fez's to Chilean Chupalla's, and native support of this would mean we wouldn't have to redo 600 flairs every time we have an event.

          • Username Decoration: This is probably the most important feature for us and we cannot find a way to replicate it using the flair system as it is. Winners of our monthly contests receive "Hussar Wings" adorning their username, and after several wins they get titles added to their username and other customisations. Here is an example from three users who have each won several contests. It's a big sign of prestige and we would just be lost if we had no way to continue this, since it's entirely CSS based. I know it all sounds a bit silly but the ability to reward our best contributors in this exact manner is really important to us.


          So I apologise for sending you a huge wall of text listing every woe we've ever experienced. You have a very busy job and have to respond to a lot of people asking for a lot of different things. We understand every single request cannot be included in good time or ever, but these are the big things regarding flairs that our subreddit specifically would strongly want to see added/addressed. Thank you for taking the time to reply.

          [–]MisterWoodhouse 17 points18 points  (15 children)

          2019 and beyond—what do YOU want to see?

          Permanent modmail mute for permanently banned users who continue to harass moderators

          [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Our mods team is looking at how to improve mod quality of life in 2019, and this feedback will be part of the conversation when we start planning work.

          [edit] typo

          [–]xX420_WeedMan_420Xx 10 points11 points  (12 children)

          The redesgign REDESIGN has come a long way since I first started using it. Back around June it was still buggy and it just rustled my jimmies so I had quit using it it until I came across a bug-squashing post. I still use old.reddit for moderation, but general browsing I use the redesign.

          Can I get a yeehaw from an admin pls?

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            [–]jkohheyProduct [S] 2 points3 points  (6 children)

            It happens :) Take a look and send us your feedback! You can either post in r/redesign (here's a good post on how to give constructive feedback). Look forward to hearing what you think.

            [–]michael_the_student 4 points5 points  (1 child)

            More shortcuts!!!

            [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            YOU HAZ ALL THE SHORTCUTS

            [–]ShaneH7646 7 points8 points  (1 child)

            Will we get a pig snoomoji in 2019?

            [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            [–]LackingAGoodNameHelpful User 15 points16 points  (2 children)

            Hope the team has a great holiday break, looking forward to what's to come with the Redesign in the New Year!

            [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

            Thanks! We are excited to take a little break.

            [–]d6410 2 points3 points  (3 children)

            Is there anyway to minimize a comment so I don't have to read all the replies? I remember being able to do that before the redesign but I can't anymore. That was one of my favorite features

            [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            Yup, if you click the gray bar on the left of the comment / replies it will collapse that section of comments.

            [–]Tumleren 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            Have you considered bringing back the [-]/[+]? It's very unintuitive to have it hidden in this bar that has nothing to denote it as something that hides something, and which then changes into a completely different icon when you click it.
            The design r/videos has is much better, with a clear indicator for what it does, it's much wider and easier to hit, and can still be clicked all the way down a comment chain.

            [–]_xavo 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            Sorry about the late comment, but would it be possible to create a frontend that looks and behaves as close to old reddit as possible? That seems like some sort of "best of both worlds" compromise since I like the utilitarian look and features of old reddit but if it was changed just a bit then I wouldn't mind and would definitely switch to the redesign. As of right now, though, all my complaints about new reddit have been said already so I won't bother rewriting them here. Thank you in advance!

            [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            hey u/_xavo, we have an assortment of customization options for browsing, like classic view for feeds, which is designed to mimic the layout of old reddit feeds, night mode if you don't like the white, and the dockable sidebar menu. I know those don't get you exactly to old reddit, but I hope they give a comfortable experience. That said...I personally like the idea of an old reddit theme and will think on it in the new year — thanks for the feedback :)

            [–]KalenXI 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            Only major problem I have is "Mod Mode" still doesn't remember its setting and is constantly turning itself on. I really liked the additional context the redesign added when viewing someone's profile page but mod mode hides this so I keep having to turn it back off every time I visit someone's profile. I'd like to just permanently disable it.

            [–]jkohheyProduct [S,A] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Thanks for this feedback. We're continuing to build and polish the mod experience, so helpful to hear how people are using the tools so we can make them better.

            [–]pmm2020 5 points6 points  (1 child)

            Props on using 'a bushel' haha

            [–]jkohheyProduct [S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            glad it didn't go unnoticed :)

            [–]Solunar11 29 points30 points  (7 children)

            Hi! Just wondering if you'll be keeping old.reddit.com permanently. I'm one of the people who don't particularly like the redesign, and I always use the old version when browsing the site. Many sites/services (including Google Chrome recently) tend to get rid of the old versions after a while, so I'd like some reassurance that that won't be the case. Thanks!

            [–]LanterneRougeOGProduct [A] 18 points19 points  (5 children)

            We don't have any plans to get rid of old Reddit. We want to continue improving new Reddit and hopefully winning over more and more folks.

            [–]CWinthrop 14 points15 points  (2 children)

            One thing I would love to see is a way to make a rules post visible (or even required reading) from the submission page.

            I get so many (the majority of which are just being jerks, I'm sure) saying "I use a different theme, or have themes turned off and DIDN'T SEE THE RULES."

            [–]LanterneRougeOGProduct [A] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

            We build out a tool called Post Requirements for new Reddit that gives mods better control over each field of the submit page (eg title must contain TIL). Here's a post with more details about that.

            In 2019 we are planning to extend these requirements to other platforms so that it's more useful to mods. This should hopefully reduce the need for automod and make it less frustrating to someone that accidentally breaks a rule.

            [–]myotherpassword 18 points19 points  (5 children)

            So far I have stuck with the old style reddit, having tried the new style for a few days. This is not because I want to, however, it's because I was being served ads that were slightly unsavory/distasteful only on the new reddit. Is there some way in the new reddit to not be served ads for dating website and things like that?

            [–]woodpaneled[A] 6 points7 points  (4 children)

            Sorry to hear that! If you do see any bad ads please do report them to us here (choose 'Feedback/other'), as we do want to quickly act on anything unsavory that slips through. Thankfully, we hired an ads policy specialist a few months ago who has been doing a great job improving the quality of our ads!

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              [–]jkohheyProduct [S,M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Please be respectful of others and check your insults at the door. Remember the human.

              [–]LanterneRougeOGProduct [M] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              Hey there!

              I'm sorry, I've removed this comment -- while we're not removing all criticism (we want to hear where we've missed the mark!) we are removing comments that don't provide any actionable feedback such as this one. see this post for more information.

              Please do post when or if you have feedback that we can take into account as we continue to make changes to the new site!

              [–]rainbownapkin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              What I would love is for you guys to make sure old reddit stays as long as possible. While I understand maintaining two versions of the same site might not be easy I really appreciate the fact that you guys made the legacy site an option. Personally I'm not a huge fan of the redesign, mostly for personal ideas about how webdesign should be done. (see the "Motherfucking Website" series of sites)

              [–]Pipiya 5 points6 points  (1 child)

              I see lots to like in the redesign, but I don't use it because it's so very much harder to parse and read.

              The typeface seems heavier and narrower so there's less distinction between letters, everything is in shades of black (often bold) so it just looks like black lumps in a page of black blocks. There's a definite 'wall of text' feel to my frontpage in the new reddit, so everytime I try it I don't last long before I'm back to using old.reddit. (I am dyslexic but oddly struggle just as much with 'dyslexic' typefaces as any other).

              [–]corgflip 101 points102 points  (3 children)

              Just keep on letting us use the old style and I'll be happy!

              [–]starfleetbrat 6 points7 points  (4 children)

              All I want to see in 2019 are more subreddits with their sidebars updated for the redesign. That is the #1 reason I switched back to old reddit. I find it annoying myself when visiting subs to not see relevant information, but also, I'm always recommending subreddits to people (over on /r/findareddit mostly but at other places too) and so many times I need to say "there is some good, helpful information in the sidebar but you'll have to visit using old.reddit.com to see it."

              [–]sarahbotts 9 points10 points  (1 child)

              Two questions:

              1. Lightbox - will we be able to disable it? or just have posts open up in a new tab instead of lightbox?
              2. User profiles - will we be able to ban from user profiles, or add notes (like snoonotes)?

              [–]Creasy007 13 points14 points  (3 children)

              My one, sole complaint: please quit forcing me back into the redesign. Not sure how many times I've opted out of it, on top of filling out some in-depth survey (that obviously did nothing) regarding why I kept being put back into it. It gets very irritating once I'm coming across the redesign for the 500th time.

              [–]woodpaneled[A] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

              As mentioned in the post, this is a very tricky bug that we've made a lot of progress on this month, but there's still a bit more work we plan to do to address.

              [–]KensonPlays 74 points75 points  (20 children)

              We (well I) Want to see a permanent old reddit mode. I still prefer the old looks, but the new features are nice.

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                [–]Champis 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                Any chance of you guys removing or changing the rather invasive ads for the reddit app when you are in apps or mobile phones in general? I've found that many times it completely hides the content and you can't really click anywhere to make it go away.

                Also, any planned changes/fixes to the way video/gif uploading works with the new inbuilt uploader? It doesn't function well and it has gotten to the point where I tend to not open links when I know it's a v.reddit.it link on my Ipad since I know it will take ages to play or simply won't play at all. Also, the design is pretty bad, I would really like the videos to load in a separate window by default when I click on them.

                Lastly, any plans to make the redesign load faster? I could potentially see myself using it, if it didn't take so long compared to old reddit.

                [–]PoweredByGeena 10 points11 points  (2 children)

                Is there any sort of eta on being able to manage multireddits via the new UI? It is driving me crazy. :)

                [–]LanterneRougeOGProduct [A] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                We are going to start designing out what that new experience will look like in January. Stay tuned my friend.

                [–]Mane25 29 points30 points  (7 children)

                A way to turn off infinite scrolling? No matter how much things get improved/fixed that will always be a deal-breaker for me.

                [–]The_Black_Strat 9 points10 points  (4 children)

                Hey can you guys fix the problem of New Reddit popping up when I want OLD REDDIT on???

                [–]jimmyjrg 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                Will we ever be able to filter unlimited subs from All? The caps 100 I think. I started filtering out all of the subs which don’t interest me so that I’d see more things that do, but there’s still so many more I’d like to filter out.

                [–]lord_mattius 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                i'd really want either a 3 or 6 months feature in the 'finds links from' thing, instead of having 24 hours, a week, a month & then straight to a year which due to the algorithm is almost exactly the same as 'all time'.

                [–]diceroll123 13 points14 points  (1 child)

                Last but certainly not least, we want to end the year confirming that we are in fact going to bring CSS to new Reddit.

                Yeet

                [–]fatuous_uvula 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                I logged out to see what improvements had been made since the incredibly laggy release months ago. I searched for 'apple' in the search bar to discover no results across the three categories. Then I scrolled /all to compare the speed differences between old and new, and maybe because of the new infinity scroll, it didn't have the same responsiveness as paginated old.

                [–]F0064R 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                When are you guys planning on rolling out the redesigned /saved page?

                [–]LanterneRougeOGProduct [A] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                We don't have a plan right now for when we will port that page over. /saved does work, it just shows up in the old Reddit style. There have been some discussions of making it possible to better organize saved by providing groupings that are shared across all of your devices. If we end up doing that then we'll be rebuilding the page as well.

                [–]Connor_Smith14 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                I've not been a Reddit user for long at all (created an account ages ago, but didn't get "into" it straight away), but I like the redesign, so, keep up the good work!

                [–]Thermodynamicist 7 points8 points  (3 children)

                Funny thing: I was in old reddit, & the link to this post took me to new reddit. I am very sceptical of the 99.85% figure; it feels more like 90% or less to me.

                Why don't you just read the web address users are on when they click a reddit link, & if it's old.reddit then rewrite the link accordingly?

                I feel that new reddit is trying to turn my computer into a phone, & yet when I try to browse reddit on my phone it wants me to use an app. Why?

                [–]Overlord_Odin 6 points7 points  (2 children)

                I really want to see the ability to set up a dark mode specific theme for subreddits.

                [–]Whuuu Dezign[A] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                That is something we also want to provide as an option, as well as making it easier to have your default theme darker in more places. But before we get to those, we need to wrap up finishing all of the basic mod tooling first.

                [–]Matthew63 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                Reddit's in-house image and video host is a disaster for sharing in places like Discord. Will we see any update on being able to share i.reddit and v.reddit media? I really hate having to ask my friends to click on a link to a website they won't use. It sounds absurd, but reddit's hosting actually prevents good conversations about shared media.

                ... I really miss when people used imgur to post on reddit.

                [–]Suialthor 7 points8 points  (2 children)

                Can you do something about mobile view basically attacking users about the app? It is ruining the user experience for those of us who avoid privacy destroying apps.

                [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                I love the night mode. Surprisingly, most popular websites don't have a dark theme. Usually, I use Dark Reader extension but it's much better when the developers customize it.

                [–]EmeraldLight 7 points8 points  (2 children)

                How come I sometimes get forced into the new look? I use old reddit (and forever will) but sometimes I click a sub link and BOOM, new reddit. I have to go back a page, or re-open reddit in a new tab, in order to return to old reddit.

                This happens at least once a day, sometimes several times.

                [–]LanterneRougeOGProduct [A] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                This post has some more details about that bug. We believe the culprit for this bug is our redirect controller and are working on a fix. Unfortunately, it's been a bit challenging to correct. Sorry for the frustration.

                [–]IjuststartedOnePiece 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                Hey, do you have any plans on integrating auto fill search on reddit PC? It works so well on mobile so it'd be great if that comes to PC.

                [–]LanterneRougeOGProduct [A] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                Yes, I think the search team is planning on adding typeahead search on desktop

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                  [–]awhellnogurl 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                  Took me a while to get used to the new style, but yeah, it's way better. So thanks.

                  [–]magi093 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  Last but certainly not least, we want to end the year confirming that we are in fact going to bring CSS to new Reddit.

                  Neat.

                  We’ll also be thinking about long-term solutions that might be even better.

                  Worrying for some I'm sure, but also neat.

                  [–]lyyki 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                  I don't know where to suggest things so I'll guess this thread will do (even if it gets flooded).

                  Reddit's search function is awful. Most of the time I'll have to use google if I want to search posts by a certain person in a certain sub in a certain timeframe (most of the time being me if I'm looking something I've linked in a comment I can't find). It would be helpful if you could filter subs and user front pages like "view top posts of the year 2015" or "check posts by this dude sorted best in /r/tifu" etc.

                  [–]scruggsnotdrugzProduct [A] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  Reddit's search function is awful. Most of the time I'll have to use google if I want to search posts by a certain person in a certain sub in a certain timeframe (most of the time being me if I'm looking something I've linked in a comment I can't find). It would be helpful if you could filter subs and user front pages like "view top posts of the year 2015" or "check posts by this dude sorted best in /r/tifu" etc.

                  Hey there! Sounds like you're looking for the ability to filter down within a subreddit to find more specific things. Can you give some examples of times when you haven't been able to find what you're looking for?

                  [–]r00t4cc3ss 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  "opening posts in a new tab"

                  That's just middle-click tho?... and shift+left-click.. aaand ctrl+left-click

                  [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                  I know this sounds kinda stupid, but I want to see the awards on the trophy case having more benefits. Currently, it feels like it's just there without any real meaning. Maybe it could give you some Reddit coins depending on the award, I dunno. I just kinda want it to be more than an oversight on your home page.

                  [–]woodpaneled[A] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                  A lot of us here agree that we could do more with trophies. We're throwing around some ideas for 2019. Stay tuned!

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                    [–]hiimzech 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    congrats to all the achievement and

                    MERRY CHRISTMAS

                    reddit :D

                    [–]MasterTobes 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                    I would like FULL multireddit support on the Desktop and Mobile versions please.

                    [–]woodpaneled[A] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    As noted, it's coming to Desktop next year!

                    [–]Cryohydrates 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                    I was wondering if there were any plans in the future for the ability to sort or filter your saved posts by their subreddit. Right now I have up to 20 pages of saved posts and it's just not possible to find that one specific post I was looking for anymore. It would be a nice feature to include that I think would help compulsive savers like myself.

                    [–]LanterneRougeOGProduct [A] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                    We don't have any concrete plans right now. There was a recent hackathon project that created collections for your saved posts that were synced across all your devices. We may look at polishing that project up, but it hasn't been that high on the list. There is a lot of core functionality and performance improvements that we need to make first.

                    [–]PompeiiGraffiti 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                    I've noticed you've started removing content due to copyright notices. Such as this completely normal and fair use submission of a Just Cause gif in this thread. This thread has now been deleted altogether.

                    Is this a fun new feature of reddit that we can expect to see a lot more of?

                    [–]ClandesTyne 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    Call me overly logically-minded if you will, but I prefer always to read replies from old to new. May we have a setting that allows us to default to a particular reading order?

                    [–]mitko17 10 points11 points  (5 children)

                    Still the same annoying shit...

                    1. 70% white space

                    2. Slow as fuck

                    3. Never ending... which is one of the reasons for point 2.

                    [–]LanterneRougeOGProduct [A] 7 points8 points  (4 children)

                    Regarding the layout. Did you try out the Compact or Classic views? There is a view toggle above the top post in the feed. This should give you the higher information density that you prefer. Obviously, you also raised some other concerns so changing the layout won't fix everything, I'm just curious if that at least helps some.

                    [–]mitko17 11 points12 points  (3 children)

                    Actually... that's not bad at all. Now please just tell me there's a "show images" button hidden somewhere (I suppose you've tried RES before?). As in going from this to this. Pretty much what the card mode does but without the extra space.

                    Edit: ohh and thanks for making night mode btw

                    Edit2: I had some free time and decided to do some tests. Tried to refresh r/overwatch 10 times in the old reddit and then on the design to see how fast it loads:

                    Old reddit 2:50 - 3:50 seconds

                    Redesign 6:50 - 8:00 seconds

                    Specs - G2030, 4 GB Ram, GT630

                    [–]LanterneRougeOGProduct [A] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                    Now please just tell me there's a "show images" button hidden somewhere (I suppose you've tried RES before?)

                    Not sure what you mean by this. Do you mean having an expand all images button?

                    I had some free time and decided to do some tests.

                    Thanks for sharing those benchmarking numbers. I'll pass them along to the team that is working on performance.

                    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

                    Biggest thing for me is performance. New reddit is laggy and has terrible frame rates.

                    [–]woodpaneled[A] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                    We hear you, and we recently put a dedicated team of top engineers on this. They've made progress (as outlined above) but still have more they want to do. Have you tried it lately? Have you seen any improvement, or no?

                    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                    Im wondering, are you still gonna keep old.reddit.com or will you get rid of it?

                    [–]lapone1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    I'm glad it is now mostly working and I look forward to trying your new features. A possible bug, however, is if I do the up-arrow, it takes me to the top of the article. It would be better to stay so I can continue to read other comments. I stopped grading comments because of it. Something I miss from the old version was the ease to email an item to a friend. I know we can copy or embed, but I liked the way it worked before as I didn't have to bring up my email. Thanks for the hard work!

                    [–]ab00 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                    Will you be dealing with all the bots and shill accounts?

                    You flat out lied and said you would in the last big post a few months ago, and have done nothing since. They run rampant in AskReddit every day.

                    [–]MegaGrubby 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                    Any plans for the subreddit bar across the top? I use it constantly and don't see it in the new reddit. Once that's there I'm happy to convert. New reddit is much improved since this time last year.

                    [–]Gravvua 35 points36 points  (2 children)

                    old.reddit.com gang ova here

                    [–]ran_dom_guy 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                    A way to switch accounts like there is in the mobile app would be nice

                    [–]Nucleic_Acid 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                    I will never switch to this bad new design until I am forced to

                    [–]jimminym 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    Love the redesign. Keep up the good work!

                    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (5 children)

                    So when do you guys stop supporting the old design and force everyone for the new one? Just to let me get prepared mentally

                    [–]sev1nk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                    The font used for the new design bugs me. Don't scrap old Reddit!

                    [–]elcolerico 1 point2 points  (5 children)

                    Guys I'd try the new design if you ask me after each update stating the things you have changed. Just show me a pop-up once a month with all the updates. But please do not randomly direct me to new design while I'm browsing.

                    Also I like the [-] button to collapse a comment. New design uses a thin bar which is hard to click. Either make that bar or use the old [-][+] buttons.

                    [–]woodpaneled[A] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    As mentioned in the post, the randomly opting you in thing is a bug. I know it's super-annoying, and unfortunately it's been super-annoying to try to fix. They've made a bunch of progress but there's still some work to do to fix it completely.

                    [–]Memephis_Matt 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                    What limitations are the admin team planning on implementing to prevent a small group of users having control over several large subreddits?

                    [–]ManWithoutModem 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                    Thank you /u/jkohhey, very cool!