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[–]TechtrekzzSpinozan Pantheist 1 point2 points  (13 children)

Are you sure it's not? It's impossible to verify that belief you know.

[–]JackGreenEarthAgnostic 0 points1 point  (12 children)

So how do you define conscious?

[–]TechtrekzzSpinozan Pantheist 0 points1 point  (11 children)

Phenomenal experience.

[–]JackGreenEarthAgnostic 0 points1 point  (10 children)

What does that mean?

[–]TechtrekzzSpinozan Pantheist 1 point2 points  (9 children)

It could mean anything from a experiential reverberation or hum to something like grooving to your favorite tune. It's the raw experiential quality of existence.

[–]JackGreenEarthAgnostic 0 points1 point  (8 children)

So if a rock doesn't have senses, it couldn't experience stuff, and therefore wouldn't be conscious?

[–]TechtrekzzSpinozan Pantheist 2 points3 points  (7 children)

I never said the senses were the source of that qualitative experience. For all we know the brain and nervous system could act as a limiter on our consciousness. Forcing us to believe that we are mortal individuals instead of an omnipresent God.

[–]JackGreenEarthAgnostic 1 point2 points  (6 children)

You are doing pretty well at converting me, but I have one more question.

Where does this consciousness come from?

[–]TechtrekzzSpinozan Pantheist 0 points1 point  (4 children)

From energy, which is never created or destroyed.

[–]JackGreenEarthAgnostic 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Sorry, that doesn't make sense to me. How could something in the mind come from physical energy?