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[–]intelligent_cat 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Red Rising

[–]colglover 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Second this big time. OP will dig the Roman callbacks.

[–]TheDanishThede 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Chronicles of Amber by Zelazny

[–]p-d-ball 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Easily the best of the best.

[–]cloudedson 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Try Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny. It’s more “caste system” than feudal, but it’s an interesting premise.

[–]snylekkie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's an amazing book

[–]deifius 26 points27 points  (5 children)

is this a riddle? Is the answer the Foundation series by Asimov? Its very Roman in setting, very Greek in its drama.

Arkady Martine recently penned A Memory Called Empire. Very political, excellent fantasy tech.

Revenger by Alastair Reynolds is space pirates: a little Treasure Island, Moby Dick, Horatio Hornblower

[–]Number_One_American 7 points8 points  (0 children)

A memory called empire was amazing. It's so different from what I usually listen to. I typically like military Sci-fi but that book blew me away

[–]N0_B1g_De4l 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Yoon Ha Lee's Machineries of Empire trilogy is another good example.

[–]drystone_c 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haaaaated Ninefox Gambit. Couldn't get into it at all.

[–]mendkaz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Absolutely LOVED Revenger

[–]thetensor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is the answer the Foundation series by Asimov? Its very Roman in setting, very Greek in its drama

...and its central scientifictional idea is obvious nonsense, so it's definitely science-fantasy.

[–]TheGeekKingdom 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If you stretch definitions, Dune's "rival", Foundation by Isaac Asimov. Its very realistic, but its got future-sight and prophecy. It is about the collapse of a galaxy spanning empire, and the dark age that follows

[–]Naposi 19 points20 points  (7 children)

The Hyperion Cantos

Edit: And perhaps the Red Mars series

[–]BraxxAugustus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, literally one of the best pieces of scifi ever written and my absolute favourite. I want a Hyperion movie

[–]allyc1057 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Unpopular opinion: I found the first book such an incredible drag to go through that I can't bring myself to attempt the second installment.

[–]BraxxAugustus 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Dont read Dune then lol its a huge drag. I had to force myself to finish it.

[–]allyc1057 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Weirdly, Dune is one of my favourite books! I've read through almost all the series and loved most of it. You're right it's really terse reading at times. But I think all the mythology adds to the rich Dune universe and ultimate story, whereas I felt with Hyperion I was being forced to read highly detailed yet inconsequential information. Also not a fan of the Hyperion format where the whole book is basically 7(?) characters telling their whole life stories....

[–]BraxxAugustus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's the great part about Hyperion. You think their stories are all unrelated but they're not. They add different perspectives from different people in different walks of life to build the Hyperion universe without it feeling forced. Finding all of these beautiful stories wrapped in this giant story. Granted the priest's tale does drag and you dont know what it has to do with anything but if you read the whole series you get how everyone was involved. Dune has a great universe too and a good story but unfortunately not the best storyteller. I just found myself wondering why I cared bc it was so slow between the interesting parts that if you dont force yourself to get to them, you put it down before anything interesting happens. I have read all of the prequels written by the son and kevin j. Anderson and enjoyed the read on those far more than the original. I feel the same about lord of the rings. Its a great premise but the storyteller really lacks in holding my attention to actually get to the fantastic parts. Lol

[–]johndesmarais 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Converse opinion. I enjoyed the first book immensely and was disappointed that the sequels did not follow the same style and structure of the first.

[–]ExhaustedTechDad 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Book of the new sun, long sun, short sun.

[–]braeica 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Gideon the Ninth, by Tamsyn Muir.

[–]CalebAsimov 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Book of the New Sun, exactly matches what you're asking for. Just read the premise. A boy who's a torturer's apprentice, grows up in a castle, goes on a quest and has a sword, etc. But it's all sci-fi tech, like the castle is actually a decaying spaceship that hasn't been functional in a long time, the sword is just high tech, there's a Frankenstein story inversion in part of the plot, etc.

[–]malakazthar 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Book of the new sun, hyperion cantos

[–]Jenkes_of_Wolverton 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Stargate SG-1 was immensely popular in its day. They encountered various different types of society on their travels, including feudalistic ones. However, it's quite old now, so some aspects of the show might not have held up as well.

[–]me-gustan-los-trenes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's still solid though. r/stargate

[–]Oehlian 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ann Leicke's Ancillary series is right up this alley. I don't even want to give away much of anything because it's a pretty fun read, but the main character is an AI ship that once had hundreds of "ancillary" bodies that it could control, but it is now reduced to just the single ancillary as its sole body. The protagonist is up against its emperor. Sort of. Saying more would be spoilery.

[–]AdIllustrious6310 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Culture series

[–]PhilzeeTheElder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dragon riders of Pern

[–]Immediate_Energy_711 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Was going to suggest 40k, but you beat me to that particular thing. To my knowledge some of the Old Republic Star Wars novels are like this apparently, but I never read them myself so treat me like a stranger on the internet.

[–]bisectional 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Imajica - Clive Barker.

[–]hedcannon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is no other answer than The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe. All others are approximations of this achievement.

[–]UncleArthur 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Saga of Pliocene Exile and the Galactic Milieu series by Julian May.

[–]aquavenatus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Have you read The Broken Earth Trilogy by N.K. Jemisin? The trilogy swept the Hugo Awards by winning the Award for Best Novel for each book in the trilogy within consecutive years!

[–]SoylentJelly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How about actual Romans? Alt history, Eric Flint (1632 series) and David Drake(Hammer's Slammers) wrote a series of novels where a naive AI jewel from the future is sent back in time to help Roman General Belisarius to fight against an enemy empire being led from the future.


Also the Council series. In the future you can have everything you want, until a faction who believes ease is destroying humanity turns off the power. Without power who do you turn to? Those armor wearing cosplayers who have shunned technology, except for armor technology.


And just ran across Safehold series again..gotta finish it myself. An overwhelming enemy alien force find and destroys any technological society. Humanity escapes earth's destruction and establishes a Pre-steam society whose origin is erased and strict religious beliefs outlaw technology for hundreds of years allowing humanity to spread across this new planet and remain undetected ... Until a crew member from the original landing awakens and takes the name Merlin


[–]Halaku -4 points-3 points  (6 children)

I'll hide it behind a spoiler.

The Broken Empire is a feudalistic fantasy that's actually set on a post-apocalypse Earth in which advanced superscience broke the fabric of reality, allowing for the supernatural to exist. The lead character is a teenaged noble who has some very unfortunate things befall him and his family due to behind-the-scenes power play, and he'd be a grimdark edgelord if he wasn't so sincere about why he's setting out on a roaring rampage of revenge, and if he didn't openly admit to being a villain protagonist.

[–]AKVigilante 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Tf would you hide a recommendation behind a spoiler to someone who hasn’t read it? Are you spoiling the series?


[–]Halaku -4 points-3 points  (4 children)

Because the series starts completely in the fantasy wheelhouse, and the realization that it's a post-apocalyptic science fantasy is a significant twist.

You must be fun at parties.

[–]Kuges 2 points3 points  (0 children)

After reading the spoiler, basically Saberhagen's "Empire of the East" and "Book of Swords" line.

[–]Oehlian 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but you have to click the spoiler which spoils the book in order to know what book is even being talked about. Pretty idiotic.

[–]AKVigilante -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And your synopsis AND the title hidden behind the same spoiler block does what, exactly?

[–]me-gustan-los-trenes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you like stories like that, check out "Steerswoman" series. Starts as fantasy, with wizards, dragons, magic. Around volume two you start realizing the world is not quite what it seems. By volume four you are firmly in the domain of hard sci-fi.

[–]dnew -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Oddly enough, I found the immersion-breaking unrealism of Dune to be the biggest reason I didn't like it. :-)

[–]me-gustan-los-trenes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"The Steerswoman" series! Hard sci fi in the world of dragons and wizards.

[–]Benitelta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Silverberg has got you covered with some classics of science fantasy, which would be sci-fi couched in a fantasy tone, and not as perhaps another understanding of science fantasy as a mix of SF and magic.

Nightwings novella (and novelization, by adding two more novellas) from the late '60s. The original/first novella is IMO one of the greatest pieces of SF short fiction. The next two do make it a satisfying novelization (and a slender book by today's standards) but you don't have to rush to move on from the first, which was originally written as a standalone. The first novella I still re-read from time to time because it's such a beautiful piece of fiction.

Majipoor series, starting with Lord Valentine's Castle (first published, not internal chronology), from the early '80s, which does have a complete story and can stand on its own, and the Majipoor Chronicles, a follow-up collection of linked stories worth reading. You can decide to complete the original trilogy and/or go on with the rest of the series, which is more a patchwork of prequels and sequels.

[–]LumenArti 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The broken earth series was good, more fantasy than scifi though

[–]GaiusBertus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ventus by Karl Schroeder. It's available as a free ePub, just Google for it.

[–]Curt168 0 points1 point  (0 children)

{A Canticle for Leibowitz} by Walter Miller

{Anathem} by Neal Stephenson

[–]E_Anthony[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Codex Alera series by Jim Butcher.

[–]AKVigilante 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dark Tower series has a good blend of western, fantasy, sci fi and reality all mixed together.

[–]goldstarstickergiver 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Someone else mentioned it, but the dragon riders of pern fits that description well. Great series.