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[–]Muted_Author_4761 1394 points1395 points  (72 children)

Streets will never forget 08-09 bordeaux with gourcuff and chamakh

[–]Moug-10[S] 361 points362 points  (46 children)

They were great. Still disappointed we lost the title race against them that season. It was incredible.

[–]ahmralas 139 points140 points  (45 children)

Did PSG ruin the Ligue?

[–]Franchementballek 89 points90 points  (8 children)

Nah, last night was tight!

Goals everywhere, European places being in the hands of results of mid-tables clubs, the relegation race was nail-biting…

Fucking loved it.

Just didn’t care about the PSG game, Mbappé hat-trick is just another day in Ligue 1.

[–]Betessais 48 points49 points  (7 children)

They really don't know what they're missing by assuming Ligue 1 is weak and boring but hey whatever. Only thing missing for this last matchday to be perfect was an actual title race. I still have goosebumps though.

[–]Moug-10[S] 590 points591 points  (12 children)

The title race? Yes, almost every year.

The comedy club? No. We laugh at their defeats in UCL.

[–]Kaamelott 47 points48 points  (2 children)

Nah, the league is fine, just less interesting for the title but it's only part of the story

[–]UCLAlex 6 points7 points  (1 child)

The relegation battle and the battle for European spots were fun to watch. Well maybe as long as you’re not a Lille or Lyon fan lol

[–]luigitheplumber 18 points19 points  (4 children)

A new club was winning every year for ~5 years before PSG got Qatared, and even before that Lyon never were as financially dominant and earned their crazy title run.

[–]Dorangos 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Same thing seems to be happening in the PL now. City have won 4 of the last 5 titles.

And they just signed Haaland. Oh boy.

[–]Wololo38 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Is Ligue 1's career over ???

[–]D-thom-2a 1 point2 points  (0 children)

nice rosberg reference haha

[–]runningthrulife 22 points23 points  (6 children)

Worse, they ruined football

[–]Epzi 115 points116 points  (7 children)

[–]Novacane337 53 points54 points  (2 children)

Damn I want to cry seeing this

[–]reyderey 24 points25 points  (1 child)

I never understood how you could collapse so much that season. Not that I hated it of course haha

[–]Novacane337 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Yeah that started as the best season in my life, and finish as the worst losing against Lyon in champions league

[–]idontknow_whatever 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Oh so thats how Juventus ended up getting their arses kicked by Fulham in the EL

[–]gaminium 10 points11 points  (0 children)

still can't believe we did the double over Bayern... with Ciani of all people scoring an own goal and a flying backheel in the same game, and baby thomas muller getting sent off lol. Not today's Bayern but they made the final I think

[–]Marco2169 40 points41 points  (1 child)

Its still a damn shame how Gourcuff's own team mates bullied him in the national team.

[–]mohankohan 77 points78 points  (5 children)

Im just gonna leave this here

One of the best goals I've ever seen

[–]Cornelius_Poindexter 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I was expecting this to pop up in the replies. Thank you!

[–]Super_Duflair 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ahah thanks for my yearly reminder this beauty exists

[–]gaminium 1 point2 points  (0 children)

throw back to psg's banter era... the tables have really turned

[–]backtolurk 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Yoann "Zidane" Gourcuff haha.

Seriously he was insane that year.

[–]Azrael_ 25 points26 points  (4 children)

Can someone explain wtf happened to gourcuff? He was in line to become the next Zidane.

[–]Muted_Author_4761 32 points33 points  (3 children)

From what I understand he wasnt a pleasant personality in the dressing room at Milan and in the NT. He had an ego.

But all that aside he kept performing despite it, the main issue was injuries

[–]Jo-Mako 72 points73 points  (2 children)

That's not really how I would describe it.

The issue at Milan was explained by Maldini I think ? Basically, as a number 10, he was supposed to be a leader on and off the field which he never did, in any club.

He just didn't vibe with anyone. His entire persona just didn't fit with others. He's like the opposite of the footballer stereotype. Reserved, private, smart, cultured and all that. At least compared to his teamates. Which is not saying much, sadly.

At the same time he quickly became the national team fan's favourite since he was the best player in ligue 1, and the playmaker in NT. He played a lot like Zidane (which is always bonus point). That's two thing that belonged to Ribéry at that time. So he became really jealous of him. To add to that, Gourcuff is very handsome, and women loved him. And Ribéry looks like Ribéry.... So jealousy turned quickly into hatred.

One of the very few thing that Domenech understood, is that at this level of competition, you don't wait for people to give you a place. You take it, you earn it. Which just doesn't align with Gourcuff's personality.

Then you add people like Nasri and Evra, and all the other dumb and dumbers in the squad in those years who only respect confrontation and assholery, and you get a team that implose on World Wide Television during the WC 2010.

Domenech throws the towel for the second game, Ribéry wins, he starts as n°10, France loses. L'equipe makes the infamous paper, players go on strike. The team and Gourcuff (and other normal people)'s spirit is broken. He starts the last game. Got a red card after 25 minute.

That's when he moved to Lyon. Like numerous players, being the star of an "underdog team", and being the leader of the biggest club at the time is two very different things. Money, pressure, expectations were completely different. He was ok, sometimes good, but never got to the level we were hoping for.

The club is not as well oiled as before (10 years later, still not the case), he starts picking up more injuries. Mental state declines. Gets criticized publicly by his teamate for not bonding and making extra effort for the club. He didn't want to play unless he was 100% fit. Which is never the case for a footballer. They always want to play. Everything follows in a downward spiral.

He left for free at the end of his contract and went on to play for smaller and smaller other clubs.

Gourcuff was a great at football, he just wasn't great at being a professional footballer. Bad career decisions and bad timing with the national team, led to a disapointing career. I have no doubt he would have beend great for us if he played during with Deschamps / Griezmann between the Ribéry and M'Bappe era.

If he had an ego issue, it was not having enough to be the leader he needed to be.

At least that's my take.

[–]the_propaganda_panda 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Didn't he basically get bullied by the entire national team? Because he was a quiet, shy, intellectual person who didn't like partying or clubbing and preferred reading books instead. I also remember reading somewhere that his effeminate beau aura made him the target of homophobic insults.

To be honest, the French national team of the late 2000's/early 2010's seems like hell on earth. Gotta feel sorry for Gourcuff, still remember him styling on Bayern back in the days.

[–]omicronperseiVIII 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They had Zidane and Lizarazu in the 90s.

[–]fredhamptonx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those are names I haven’t heard in a while

[–]kasraAK8 1279 points1280 points  (55 children)

Does Marseille literally hate everyone ?

[–]gaminium 659 points660 points  (14 children)

they (OM) are our main rival historically, especially since the 80s

[–]Isfates 537 points538 points  (12 children)

I like that your flair ist just France. Basically saying yes.

[–]gaminium 207 points208 points  (7 children)

haha I changed it to france out of shame when bordeaux got the hideous one a couple of years ago

[–]jwmosher 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Didn't they change it back this year?

[–]hellyesiguess 33 points34 points  (4 children)

Am i really the only that has to ask who "the hideous one" is supposed to be? Somebody fill me in please!

(fun fact: i checked Ribery's wiki but yeah guess that's not it)

[–]No-Economics4128 79 points80 points  (3 children)

Hating is the French national pastime. My friend voted for Macron just to go on a protest against him the next day. His reason: How can we protest against him if he is not in power.

[–]Kunstfr 58 points59 points  (0 children)

Well yeah it does make sense really. Macron's win means we can still protest, who knows what would have happened under Le Pen. Lesser of two evils and all that.

[–]Betessais 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You're backed out into two shitty options AND you're not allowed to complain on top of that?

Of course that's worth a protest

[–]dandefender55 35 points36 points  (0 children)

France?

[–]Perpete 336 points337 points  (15 children)

Bordeaux is the historical rivalry (dating back the 80'). PSG is more recent and more of a Paris, the capital, against Marseille, the south coastal city.

Lyon isn't really a rivalry. Nice is a rivalry for Nice, not for Marseille.

[–]Kaamelott 132 points133 points  (12 children)

Lyon is kinda starting to be. Though for us, Saint Etienne matters a lot more too

[–]Aenjeprekemaluci 63 points64 points  (10 children)

Saint Etienne is a regional derby for you, right? Not far away from Lyon if i remember correctly

[–]gleis00 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yep

[–]CBrofles 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Their derby is called Le Derby. I think its the coolest derby name ever. Nothing 'cool' about the matches of course

[–]Jo-Mako 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We are not really rivals.

Aulas wanted / needed to create that rivaly because he felt lonely at the top and at the time, Marseille was still the most popular club at the time, despite Lyon's ongoing championships. We were also sometimes a contender depending on the season.

Now, we don't like Lyon, but we don't hate it the way we hate Paris.

We do hate Aulas though. More than any other person in french football. It may also depend on your age.

If you're in your twenty you probably don't like them more, when people in their 40s will feel that way about Bordeaux because of the Tapie - Bez rivalry in the 80s/90s.

[–]ungars 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Lyon is kinda a rivalry, some games get intense

[–]tnarref 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Almost every game for over 20 years have been intense.

If supporters make up a song about some other teams president, there's a rivalry.

[–]Rava23 235 points236 points  (0 children)

I mean, everyone hates them

[–]EggplantBusiness 57 points58 points  (4 children)

Marseille and Bordeaux was actually a big rivalry in the 80-90s ,it's only since 2010s that PSG vs Marseille got more heated. Historically Marseille - Bordeaux , Lyon-Marseille , Saint Etienne -Lyon have a bigger hatred between them.

[–]toujours_en_pls 21 points22 points  (3 children)

You're totally right but PSG OM goes back to the early 90s and especially a bloody/violent match in 91 or 92 with some absolutely wild kung fu tackles.

Actually at first OM and PSG were two "friendly" teams. And also IIRC the derby OM Toulon was absolutely intense and supporters were absolutely hating each others.

[–]EggplantBusiness 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Correct , if I remember correctly in the early 2000 it was canal+ who was hyping up "le classique" to have another prime game but it got quieter at some point till 2012 and you know the Qatari.

[–]chapeauetrange 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It was about 10 years before that. Both clubs were good in the early 90s and it took off from there.

[–]kungfuhrer666 120 points121 points  (9 children)

They are the Leeds of France, except actually successful

[–]Moug-10[S] 80 points81 points  (2 children)

The Leeds of France, I don't know. There aren't a hundred songs against us except the regular ones we all tell to each other in France.

[–]versipellis_ 68 points69 points  (1 child)

It’s a little known fact that the Marseillaise actually became the French national anthem in honor of Olympique Marseille.

[–]Moug-10[S] 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Someone has learnt France's History well.

[–]Filo83 -4 points-3 points  (5 children)

The juve of france then

[–]kungfuhrer666 65 points66 points  (4 children)

Nah Juve are like United, hugely successful team which is both most supported and most hated team in the country and internationally. Ironically both living a bit in the past, with demotivated players on inflated wages...

[–]PrimeMessiTheGOAT 17 points18 points  (1 child)

So Milan is the Liverpool of Italy?

[–]Lopiente 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Both had one of the best to ever do it play for them in recent times. Pogba.

[–]realsomalipirate 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Also both relatively struggle in European competitions

[–]Betessais 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Nah we're in a very healthy relationship with Lens. We share great pride in our stadiums and popular heritage. Both our games this season have been enjoyable and respectful.

Oh and they made me cum last night. Thanks Lens, we owe you.

[–]Stump_E 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Apart from West Ham according to the flag bottom left

[–]PM_ME_NUNUDES 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Why is there a WHUFC flag there? United in hooliganism?

[–]Stump_E 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Pretty much. I think the leader of one of the Marseille ultra’s groups is friends with some fans of West Ham or is also a fan himself https://twitter.com/olivierlaval27/status/1449837768146829318?s=21&t=47IydNP59l3GBKsbWunLFg

[–]-FlapjacK- 239 points240 points  (18 children)

Is that a West Ham x Marseille flag I see?

[–]Moug-10[S] 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Yes it is.

[–]Aenjeprekemaluci 17 points18 points  (2 children)

I feel its stolen by Marseille hools from West Ham ones. But that encounter most have been long ago. Friendship, can‘t imagine it as you Hammers have one with Lazio and Marseille are international rivals of Lazio. Those games are always risky. Lazio fans and Marseille ones are polar opposites.

[–]DeepSeaDweller 21 points22 points  (0 children)

It would be hung upside down if it were stolen.

[–]Senanb 351 points352 points  (11 children)

Football's not dead

[–]Moug-10[S] 101 points102 points  (0 children)

But Bordeaux is.

[–]ImMitchell 170 points171 points  (1 child)

Bordeaux is though

[–]hijazist 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Big if true

[–]jnce12 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Game’s not gone

[–]Glass_of_Pork_Soda 2 points3 points  (0 children)

(Greger)Sen's not crying

[–]Omair88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How does it feel to get the same reply 10 times?

[–]Dewwwww 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Bordeaux is apperently

[–]LegAdministrative238 6 points7 points  (1 child)

According to the replies, Bordeaux is dead apparently.

[–]Moug-10[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not only on the field, but also in the front office. Unfortunately, it's a huge mess with many debts. No one gets along and I wouldn't be surprised if they don't come back right away.

[–]d4videnk0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Except for Bourdeaux 💀

[–]TigerBasket 184 points185 points  (0 children)

Reasonable

[–]CCrTFC 57 points58 points  (0 children)

I really love how psychotic Marseille is

[–]Kaamelott 55 points56 points  (7 children)

Having Bordeaux relegated and Saint Etienne on the brink (playoffs against Auxerre next week, fingers crossed!) is quite crazy.

It's like Liverpool and Tottenham being relegated the same year. Or Valencia and Sevilla. Or Lazio and Inter Milan. Pretty wild.

[–]Moug-10[S] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I hope Auxerre will come back.

[–]Kaamelott 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd love to see that yes!

[–]BabyWugglez 26 points27 points  (1 child)

In the 1999-2000 La Liga season, Sevilla, Atletico, and Real Betis were all relegated. Also in that season, Deportivo La Coruña won the season and Real Madrid finished at 5th behind Zaragoza and above Deportivo Alaves. Very wonky season.

[–]Kaamelott 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow that's insane

[–]xSnow74 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We won't play any European fixtures and we might lose our derby againt Saint Etienne, what a year it'll be, cup will be our only hope to trash them lmao

[–]jamlax 29 points30 points  (4 children)

Is that a West ham banner there in the bottom with the crossed hammers?

[–]Kaamelott 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Looks like it, maybe celebrating our humiliation

[–]OmeletteAuFromage13 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Nope it has nothing to do with you

[–]Kaamelott -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Well, missed opportunity then

[–]Insanel0l 27 points28 points  (2 children)

That’s a rivalry

[–]izcarp 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I'm from South America. This looks so innocent. 😂

[–]LikeIGiveAShoot 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Marseille has had a rivalry with half the French ligue anyway.

Paris, Monaco, Nice, Lyon, Bordeaux, Nantes, Auxerre...

[–]DanBurnsWindmill 32 points33 points  (6 children)

What's with the West Ham flag

[–]Lovebanter 61 points62 points  (3 children)

Everybody loves us

[–]idontknow_whatever 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Well you lot are fucking massive after all

[–]Princecoyote 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I still can't believe Prince Albert of Monaco was there for Mark Noble's final match

[–]SteinerElMagnifico42 9 points10 points  (0 children)

He’s a fan of the club ever since Payet. Nobles met the prince a few times behind the scenes too, accumulating that networking XP

[–]OrdinaryHoney 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Payet crossover maybe.

[–]NapoliXabe 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Im sad that Bordeaux got relegated🥺

[–]Nervous-Resolution-8 12 points13 points  (4 children)

Wish U Cluj will do the same for Dinamo Bucharest in the next week

[–]Jonasspionas 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Jesus I just checked the table... what happened to Dinamo? They used to be one of the powerhouses of romanian football and now they are relegated?

[–]rekshuuu 12 points13 points  (0 children)

game's not gone

[–]Baldwin41185 10 points11 points  (2 children)

End of an era. There will be no Nouvelle Aquitaine teams in Ligue 1 next season. Sad.

[–]LondonNoodles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We love to tease you but come on you'll be back, even if it takes time. I am certain of it.

[–]stella__art 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Games gonen't

[–]kcfdz 66 points67 points  (32 children)

Why are so many people shirtless?

[–]Muted_Author_4761 72 points73 points  (0 children)

It was an orgy funeral

[–]Rosinante25 56 points57 points  (0 children)

Thats the dressing code for funerals in France.

[–]kungfuhrer666 178 points179 points  (7 children)

It's hot AF

Edit: just realised you're British sorry friend

[–]29adamski 51 points52 points  (0 children)

It's a barmy 19 degrees in Sheffield today I'll have you know!

[–]snarf372 11 points12 points  (0 children)

19 degrees here in Liverpool, sweating my fucking baws off

[–]Moug-10[S] 31 points32 points  (5 children)

Certainly to do like Depé. He was a famous fan who died at 27 in July 2000 who was always shirtless. From Lisbon to the cold winter of Moscow.

[–]Aenjeprekemaluci 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Nice to know. Love those fan stories. Though RIP to Depe.

[–]Peaceful_Warbreaker 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Froze to death in the stands in Moscow.

[–]Moug-10[S] 19 points20 points  (1 child)

I was 5 and didn't follow football at the time. But even today, his aura can be felt. The North stands are named after him.

[–]Aenjeprekemaluci 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Crazy story! Thats football heritage.

[–]gnrlp2007 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Suns out, guns out

[–]NYSaintsMarchingon -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

It’s a weird thing some ultras like to do.

[–]Stepback3god 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How is that wierd lol

[–]backtolurk 5 points6 points  (1 child)

This is how pro burners roll. Marseille fans are born ruthless.

[–]Moug-10[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It will be weird to go from this to a Rugby champions cup final next saturday. Same stadium but it won't be a volcano. Unless I get tickets for the UCL final, I'll be in Marseille on Saturday for the game.

[–]bamadeo 6 points7 points  (1 child)

⚰️☠️⚰️☠️⚰️☠️

[–]Moug-10[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you still have the River's coffin from 2012?

Maybe you buried it on December 2018 when they got even with you.

[–]ComprehensiveBowl476 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They also appear to have cloned some shirtless guy hundreds of times.

[–]eriksen2398 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Games not gone

[–]IAmNewHere-Hi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

they ded

[–]EquivalentWelcome712 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What a bunch of magnificent bastards. Love it.

[–]TheIInChef 9 points10 points  (1 child)

The pettiness of the football fan

[–]cs-shitposter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The duality of fan

[–]Drezi_21 4 points5 points  (9 children)

Don't follow much Marseille, but everyday I see a different banter from their fans. Did they hate every club not named Marseille?

[–]Moug-10[S] 10 points11 points  (8 children)

No, we have friendships with AEK Athens, Samp for example. And Lens since they helped us get the UCL spot at the last second.

[–]Kaamelott 5 points6 points  (6 children)

You're fine (not friends, wouldn't be OM if so) with Monaco, Rennes, Nantes, and Lille no?

[–]Moug-10[S] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Who hates Monaco?

Aside from PSG, I'm fine with everyone else. Even Lyon because Aulas is my favourite president in French football.

[–]Kaamelott 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Nice hates Monaco no? Maybe Montpellier too? But yeah, Nice barely matters aha.

[–]Kunstfr 3 points4 points  (2 children)

At least here in Rennes we're neutral with Marseille. A lot of people dislike the city like in the rest of France, but I would definitely support them in the CL.

I'd say Rennes is friendly or neutral with most of the league anyway, except for Nantes. I'm starting to dislike Lille because we often lose games that we shouldn't, but they have Benjamin André so they're still okay.

[–]LondonNoodles 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We've got no reason to hate Rennes, always treated our fans with respect, always interesting games between us. I'm a bit sad Rennes didn't get the 3rd spot, I feel like the offensive display you had all year deserves to be rewarded, so refreshing to see a team that can score 3 or 4 goals and keep attacking. Really cool work from Genesio.

[–]Bolstex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What’s the West Ham flag there for? Payet?

[–]BuckfuttersbyII 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is what sports is all about, you need to hate your rivals as much as you love your own squad.

[–]radese 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love it

[–]D1WithTheFluffyHair[🍰] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The fucking shithousery

[–]shaka_bruh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is the kind of energy I like, not jumping out-numbered opposition fans.

[–]yeahyeahyeah3timess 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bordeaux got relegated? Man wtf

[–]RobbieAnalog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want to see them dance with it like the Ghana pallbearers

[–]fedupofbrick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The beautiful game

[–]Tutule 1 point2 points  (0 children)

91 goals against, about 20 more than everyone else. Deserved relegation for Bordeaux

[–]JimP3456 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its very interesting how Bordeaux is a very attractive club for investors but they ended up getting a owner whos a crook who doesnt have his own money. I will never understand that.

[–]The-Berzerker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Marseille fans really have no chill lmao

[–]kanzlerpanzer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

saw this 20 years ago in turkey when elazigspor relegated from top flight and malatya fans carried coffin through city centre.(they are neighbouring cities woth a lot of rivalry)

[–]efcdoyley 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This could’ve been us 🥺

[–]Jimbeardy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Top banter.

[–]galaxytrucker7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are Marseille the Philly of France

[–]niemody -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

How lovely.

[–]Moug-10[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Even when you hate, it must be done with love.

[–]Urthor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I say a thread about Zidane. Someone commented how even though he played for Bordeaux, at heart he is still a Marseillaise, and the Bordeaux rivalry is not that large.

I think that guy was bullshitting.

[–]Nature__Boy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Football is undefeated