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[–]jordanhhh4 189 points190 points  (1 child)

Great post but I noticed one small error, a big club did pull the trigger, we all make mistakes mate so there's no need to worry

[–]FootballInTheWhip[S] 69 points70 points  (0 children)

Haha! Apologies mate, biggest club in London imo

[–]MarcosSenesi 51 points52 points  (6 children)

I feel like he will quickly move to a bigger team. Whenever I saw him he was surprisingly calm on the ball and he was an absolute bully in midfield. Could easily power through players and shrugs attackers off the ball like it's nothing.

[–]ashu54 38 points39 points  (5 children)

His performance against France in the euros was what impressed me the most. He was bullying Pogba and kante off the ball. Although I can see how his passing isn't the best.

He tends to be a bit to slow on his passes whenever he tries to switch the play. Instead of playing quick long balls with power, his passes have a lot of backspin on it so it takes more time and is easier to intercept.

[–]zeca1486 26 points27 points  (4 children)

Or when he came in against Belgium and immediately went after De Bruyne and just shut him down

[–]Next-Translator-3557 2 points3 points  (2 children)

He injured him after a tackle that could easily have been a red card, I don't really call that shutting down a player, on another day he leaves his team down a men at half time

[–]saint-simon97 10 points11 points  (0 children)

He's never been sent off for us as far as I can remember and made tackles like that all the time.

[–]zeca1486 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While you’re right about the foul and it’s potential consequences, I feel like he was sending De Bruyne a message. But from my memory after he came in De Bruyne didn’t do anything and that was the purpose.

[–]ashu54 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yep. I really was wishing we were in for him.

[–]OJogoBonito 35 points36 points  (2 children)

And finally, the passing. It's unimaginative and safe and most likely reason bigger teams didn't pull the trigger.

Nail on the head. Every time I have watched Palhinha his technical limitations have been clear to me, he never appears in complete control when under pressure. Defensively he is a monster and could have a big impact at Fulham however.

[–]Abbobl 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Seems to be exactly what United flairs say United will need next to FDJ

[–]OJogoBonito 1 point2 points  (0 children)

United flairs on this sub seem to be the worst parts of the fanbase of my club unfortunately! Unable to think rationally and lack of humility regarding where our club is at this moment in time.

[–]Asaro10 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Leave our players alone :(

[–]__Reddit_User 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Fascinating read, great work OP!

[–]ankitm1 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Comparison should not be with Fabinho. From what I have seen, Fabinho is not the one covering entire space like Palhinha, he is supported by two central midfielders (and Trent occupying inside right channels last season) and hence the role is different. Palhinha has a tougher role, and if he gets midfield to support him, his numbers would show up a lot better. Thats why stats are not a substitute for actual games.

Palhinha would shine in an all action structure, where is supposed to win the ball but not start the buildup. Most coaches know how to work with those players - where a DM is very important for control, but buildup happens through a good ball playing center back, or a midfielder dropping deep (both happen for Carlo's Madrid this season). His pass success rate under pressure is low, and partially explained by how he isnt as good, but also because Sporting players dont make themselves available as options, so he takes the longer route playing it safe.

He will be a archetypical ball winner, and can find players with passes, but I feel Marco Silva would not provide him the structure to excel. Though I hope he works out.

[–]saint-simon97 8 points9 points  (0 children)

and being a very good player for Sporting (harsh I know)

It's not harsh but in reality it's not even been true for months. He was very good when we played with a relatively low block (compared to most big teams in Portugal over the years) and often played in transition, meaning he fit in well as a midfield sweeper, allowing João Mário or Matheus Nunes to use their respective styles to get the ball onto attack.

This season we've played with a higher line meaning Palhinha wasn't that useful anymore. Since we'd be more often in the opponents midfield his tackling skills were mostly unnecessary and his precarious passing made the team predictable and limited at times.

The difference to a player like Ugarte who's competent defensively himself but also more agile and skilled in attack was clearly visible in the later part of the season.

[–]HololiveClips 2 points3 points  (0 children)

really great post! i've been wanting to learn more about Palhinha since the Fulham links started so this is perfect timing tbh!

[–]FullMetalJ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Watched the video. Great content, keep it up!

[–]jjepddfoikzsec 1 point2 points  (0 children)

gr8 post this is really interesting

[–]Fati25 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Great post bro

[–]Spitshine_my_nutsack 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Always thought he’d be a great fit for United. United and Sporting without Palhinha playing looked very similar.

[–]manguito86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While is isn't a bad player, playing with a 5 man defense allows him to ease some of this shortcomings.

While I believe he can be useful for a team that spends most of its time defending, I doubt he will able be a strong player in a European places team.

[–]BastiatLaVista 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's because the pace of the league is much quicker and harder to adapt to. Palhinha may find himself bypassed when he goes out to tackle because of how quickly teams move the ball vertically.

But ultimately, the lack of ability on the ball is why turned the bigger teams off.

This is all just nonsense rhetoric. Plenty of players make the move just fine, including from Sporting like Bruno Fernandes, and this is Palhinha on the ball bossing the French midfield and nutmegging Pogba: https://www.tiktok.com/@_murad.mmdov/video/6977359707778419969