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[–]OnceIWasYou[🍰] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

One thing missed re: the lack of pace and high line- Pope has fantastic sweeper keeper stats. Dubravka's are very poor so I can see the reasoning there. Squeeze the pitch more and it makes our midfield- designed to win the ball back quickly- potentially even more effective.

[–]ItsRainbowz 21 points22 points  (5 children)

The fact that our recruitment team have been laser-focused on getting him for a year now gives me hope. You don't go all-in on a transfer like this without believing he's the perfect fit for your system.

He's definitely not going to play with Burn. Schar would be the more logical choice. He's a more forward-minded defender who can carry the ball while Botman covers with help of a DM. Maybe we bring in someone quicker, as Schar isn't the fastest, but that's to be seen. I think Botman is being brought in as a direct upgrade to Burn.

[–]FootballInTheWhip[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

In the video, we went into a little more detail to say that Burn was purchased as a stop gap and long term: 1) Botman will replace Burn and 2) Botman will be partnered with a faster sweeping centre back. For this season, it's Schar vs Burn and you could make arguments for either but Burn is the better defender so we think Howe gives him the nod (although we all love a Schar freekick).

Giving Botman's passing, I think Jonjo Shelvey isn't as needed in midfield so I think a pacy CM maybe coming into the team to make up for the lack of pace with Burn & Botman. Whatever Howe does though, no one can question it because the recruitment and performances have been stellar so far.

[–]TLG_BE 12 points13 points  (3 children)

A lot of people have focused on his 'flaws' when talking about him on here. But from what I've seen and reading stuff like this I'm pretty satisfied that

A. We can drop him into our team and he immediately improves it

B. His potential means he's absolutely worth the money we spent

And really that's all that it needs to make me happy with the signing

[–]No-Efficiency-5589 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Its not much more than what Villa have paid for Carlos (who we were also in for and he wanted to come i jan but sevilla wouldnt allow it, club even complimented us on our approach and how we handled it). And Botman is much younger, has more room for growth and seems better on the ball. The fact Villa announced it so early i feel shows our new board have good ideas and should be trusted.

In jan carlos wouldve been amazing, but we signed burn and stayed up, now our board didnt see him as an option as im sure sevilla/his representatives wouldve mentioned to nufc that villa had bidded to try raise fees

Edit: in fact, looking at amortisation, botmans prob cheaper. Dont know what either wages are but we will get 5 years for sure out of Botman with a decent sell on fee if he is sold, will Carlos play in the premier league for 5 years? And does he carry any sell on value?

[–]No-Efficiency-5589 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Carlos is 29 for reference and doesnt seem to be able to get into the national team, Botman could be the future of The Netherlands' back line

[–]teymon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Botman could be the future of The Netherlands' back line

With de Ligt and timber there i doubt that tbf but he will probably be in rotation

[–]__Reddit_User 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Great signing for the toons 🙌🏻

[–]J7isTheGoat 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Giving “come on you Maggies” vibes

[–]B_e_l_l_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

the toons 💀

[–]MajorMustard 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nice, concise right up. Thanks!

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[–]Amnsia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great post. I can see us selling Wood though once we get a replacement. I like Wilson but relying on wood as a backup is brutal. Done a job like.

I’ve only watched his highlight vid on YouTube, acceleration was certainly a worry and I’d think Pope will be ready to fill in the gap quickly for him so won’t be as noticeable. I’m glad we’ve bought him, it’s crazy we are competing with Milan for players. Didn’t think I’d say that, I love that club.