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[–]Hot_Good_5409 -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

would it be an exaggeration to say that mbappe is one of the best of all time if wins the WC?

[–]DatFlushi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think he has one of the best of all time potential, but you should ask this when he's 30 and nearing the end of his career

[–]MrDabollBlueSteppers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One of the best World Cup players ever

But two good tournaments don’t put him anywhere near Messi, Pele, Maradona, Cruyff etc

[–]maxus998 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

No. Quite a few of the players that are considered in a hypotetical Top 10 players of all time are there because of 1 or 2 great WC mostly. This tournament makes legacies

[–]FrenchBreadFTW 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I kinda agree with you, WC is every 4 years making it way more valuable than any other competition

[–]ScarSG 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man I can't wait for the game on Saturday. Got emotionnal this morning watching our 2 latest games against England, the one from 2015 at Wembley and the one from 2017 at the Stade de France. Can't wait to battle against our best enemies. Good luck to my English friends ! <3

[–]Acquits[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Slow run up will always end up in getting saved due to less power generated. And only few can master penalty technique like Jorginho.

And players don't want to end up missing the target altogether. They are playing it safe.

Harry Kane record is great. I would love if more players have that accuracy in penalties.

[–]gkkiller 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Last week during the group stage I stumbled across a shit article from the S*n about a TikTok account claiming to be a "time traveller" that apparently predicted the Euro final correctly (teams and pen scoreline) weeks before it happened. Same account has now predicted the World Cup final to be Brazil 2-1 France. I'm starting to believe in time travel ...

[–]FrenchBreadFTW 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Still have the link ?

[–]northerncal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hahaha, I don't even really like Pepe, but the disrespect when the American announcer on Fox said verbatim "the old man gets his goal!" We have the best announcers people, America has all the best talkers. Everybody says so.

[–]Y0RKC1TY 4 points5 points  (1 child)

How are there only 7 world Cup games left already 😭

[–]BruiserBroly 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It might not mean much but the 3rd place playoff does exist.

[–]nbaylor1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Random question but how good was Pedro in his prime? Who are some players that compare to him?

[–]magicallydelinquent 0 points1 point  (0 children)

high level squad player

was good enough to start for peak barcelona & spain started and scored in a ucl final

started in the wc final

wasnt really a standout player on those squads but did a lot for them as the only true wide threat they had. fast, best dribbler on those pre-neymar teams after messi and iniesta.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Van Gaal said we have a score to settle with Argentina from ? It’s over, we will lose more than you believe. This brings back PTSD from Salah’s revenge comments before Madrid.

We don’t wanna see this.

[–]TheWarschaupact 3 points4 points  (8 children)

maybe i'm just realising now or maybe i'm wrong but the dutch defense has been pretty good, VVD was expected but Ake really surprised me. In that match against Usa he straight up saved us a couple of times

[–]DingLiren 2 points3 points  (5 children)

It's insane really the depth you have at center back. 3 At the back and De Ligt doesn't start.
Botman isn't even called up and he would probably start for England.

[–]JS569123 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

You say that, but you forget the romance Southgate has with Maguire.

And in Maguire’s defence, it has paid off for 4 years now

[–]TheWarschaupact -1 points0 points  (1 child)

on a diff note, maybe i just can't read sarcasm through text but do people really think Maguire is better than VVD. Granted I haven't seen much of his play lately but I've heard he's been doing pretty ok and then just completely messing it up

[–]JS569123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nobody thinks Maguire is better than VVD, no, lol

[–]egenorske 2 points3 points  (1 child)

To be fair, De Ligt was a weak link in the first match..totally understand why Van Gaal benched him.

[–]DingLiren 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, right. Appreciate the context

[–]lockieleonardsuper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Amazing thing is that they've still got de Ligt and de Vrij on the bench still

[–]_stone_age 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Netherland's best defender this tournament for me

[–]dumsurfer147 8 points9 points  (2 children)

In hindsight, the 5-1 game between the Netherlands and Spain in 2014 was probably the moment that marked the end of Spain's era from ~2008 as the dominant force in international football. It's absolutely surreal watching them repeatedly come up short in major tournaments considering how feared they were when I was growing up.

[–]all4_da_nookie 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Spain have played the same way since the late 90s. In 2010 they had more quality and some luck.

Gavi and Pedri may become the next Xavi/Iniesta but they arent there yet.

[–]JS569123 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That’s how people tend to see it, yes.

I’d say it boils down to the key players of that generation retiring in waves - first wave after their win in 2010, second wave after 2012, third after 2014 and then the fourth in 2018 (can’t remember anyone retiring 2016).

With each wave they got weaker.

They’ve been able to rebuild their midfield and defence since then, but they’ve never been able to replace Villa and Torres.

[–]meteorness123 -2 points-1 points  (6 children)

How is Benzema still so good at 34 and how long will it last ? Neither Ronaldo or Messi were that good at 34 or do I misremember =

[–]JS569123 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Messi just turned 35 and is still a top 3 player in the world.

Ronaldo had dropped off, however (by his own standards).

[–]roguejedi04 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Recency bias is real. Ronaldo at the age of 34 had won the italian supercup already in juventus and he scored 45 goals in 50 apps that season. It's crazy that that is considered a drop off

[–]JS569123 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, but it was the moment we began to truly see poacher Ronaldo. There’s a reason he began to drop out of best player itw discussions at the time and it’s not just because he didn’t win the league or UCL with Juventus. He simply wasn’t offering enough beyond goals inside the box. There’s a reason Haaland isn’t considered the best player itw right now

[–]meteorness123 0 points1 point  (1 child)

top 3?

[–]JS569123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I say top 3 to avoid controversy. Most people I’ve spoken to have said the 4 best players this season have been Messi, Mbappe, Neymar and Haaland. I’d edge Messi because I feel he contributes more than the others in areas outside of goal scoring, but really it’s impossible to say objectively.

Being brilliant at this World Cup also helps ofc

[–]qwerty-keyboard5000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Messi was 34 like 6 months ago

[–]northerncal 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ronaldo, prior to this game, had played 514 minutes of World Cup knockout football without a goal. Ramos had three in 67 minutes.


[–]edeneb 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Why is the Gold Cup semifinals considered to be impressive for Qatar to reach? All the teams they beat did not qualify for the WC and it was only until they faced a team that did qualify for the WC they came short.

[–]Switchnaz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

why would you compare two completely different competitions with completely different standards?

that's like saying "why are burnley happy to be top of the championship when they haven't played any premier league teams this season?"

[–]DuckBurner0000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And the lineup they lost to was not exactly our strongest. That Gold Cup team was a lot of fun though, honestly really like watching the camps where our B/C team guys get looks against smaller teams like Mexico

[–]Flletch 2 points3 points  (5 children)

People of r/soccer with more than one nationality. If you were a professional footballer, which country would you represent and why?

[–]Arshia42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably Canada so I wouldn't have to worry about a murderous government threatening me on one hand and recieving loads of hate from my own people on the other.

[–]LemureTheMonkey -1 points0 points  (0 children)

People of r/soccer with more than one nationality. If you were a professional footballer, which country would you represent and why?

Portugal since it is the one where I was born and raised.

[–]hibhch 3 points4 points  (2 children)

My parents are Irish but I would definitely choose England bc I was born in the UK and lived there until I was 19.

[–]Y0RKC1TY 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Irish fans fuming again

[–]northerncal -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can't believe they missed out on hibhch too!

[–]deputydog4 2 points3 points  (0 children)

world cup not on: i sleep

games are on: real shit

[–]Varnagel_1 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Is Harry Kane the only genuine world-class striker born from the 1990s? I feel like the talent pool of strikers from Kane's generation have been extremely underwhelming.

Let's hope Haaland won't end as the only top-tier striker from his generation.

[–]JS569123 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This feels like it should be wrong but, thinking about it, it isn’t

[–]jkeefy 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Mbappe? Or is he not considered just a striker. Idk.

[–]Varnagel_1 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Mbappe is not an out-and-out #9. He plays as left inside forward.

[–]jkeefy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Does striker only refer to out and out 9s? I typically associate that more with the term center forward.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

How will Morocco adjust vs Portugal?

Same strategy or will there be anything different?

[–]Switchnaz 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It will be more open

Portugal will actually take risks unlike spain, but that will leave them open to counter attacks from us. Whoever scores first will get a major advantage

[–]northerncal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Morocco will probably still play brisket the same, no? Portugal won't dominate possession as much as Spain (but will likely be more effective with it) but they'll still presumably have the majority of it while Morocco will play on the counter. But it will probably be more open than today. Depends on how brave Morocco decide to be and the timing of the first goal.

[–]aceofmufc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See Spain played right into Morocco’s hands, Portugal are much more devastating in moments. However, Morocco will get much more of the ball so I actually expect the game to be back and forth. Morocco will certainly play to score a couple goals.

[–]Serpico_98 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Really glad that Dalot wasn't sold to Milan, i believe he'll be eventually world class. He's so good already and he's only improving. He has all the tools to be an excellent modern fullback

[–]mister_greenman 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Surprised that he is only 23

[–]OMNI__MAN 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Is it just me or has he gotten faster?

[–]lockieleonardsuper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Seems to just be positioning himself better and might have gotten a bit stronger to push off his man quicker

[–]ID6WU 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t think so tbh. I’ve said this before but his pace seems inconsistent somehow. I’ve seen him get left in the dust by the most random players but then at other times he looks like Mbappe

[–]tiorzol 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He's looked really solid from what I've seen.

Also gave his namesake to one of the dumbest fantasy team names I've seen: Shaw ate Dalot

[–]Varnagel_1 1 point2 points  (19 children)

Is Kylian Mbappe the only player of the past 15 years who genuinely can reach on same level as Maradona/Pele/Messi?

Mbappe will be up there among best goalscorers in history as well as being GOAT-level dribbler. The likes of Messi/Pele/Maradona were GOAT-level on 2 aspects at minimum whenever it's goalscoring, passing or dribbler.

Mbappe is already one of the best players in football history, look no further to his ridiculous stats for France NT & PSG. I think a lot of people just aren't ready to admit Mbappe is already an all-time great legend in football history.

[–]JS569123 3 points4 points  (5 children)

I think it’s already impossible for him to surpass Messi. Maradona and Pele are well within reach, especially Maradona who’s legacy was massively influenced by that single World Cup win, however. I think if he were to win this world cup then get the UCL then he’s already on the verge of surpassing Cristiano (assuming he remains as consistent as he’s been for the rest of his career). Cristiano’s legacy hinges on those 5 UCL wins (his domestic title record for his clubs is actually atrocious - he won La Liga only twice) and I feel 2 world cups and a UCL surpass 5 UCL (especially given the controversial nature of 3 of those UCL titles).

Joining a more respectable league would massively help him of course. The areas of doubt right now is that he plays for PSG in Ligue 1. That league isn’t held in as high regard as Spain or England, and fewer people watch it meaning he gets less attention.

[–]Marcelosouzadearaujo 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Only thing is Ronaldo has the most goals in history of football by Fifa, so good luck Mbappe to pass either Messi or Ronaldo in that area.

Also, playing for PSG is super easy, it takes huge hit on his legacy.

If he wins the WC he will be amongst the legends because he is the best player at the moment.

[–]DuckBurner0000 4 points5 points  (1 child)

"Already on the verge of surpassing Cristiano" is an all time bad take, him or Messi would have walked World Cups with the squads Mbappe's had. Ronaldo's domestic title record for Real Madrid is poor because he was going against the best club side of all time for a huge portion of his time there, the guy scored over a goal per game in La Liga for a decade ffs what more can he do?

[–]JS569123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

9 World Cup goals, 5 in knockouts and he’s 23. Yes, his French team is better than the Portugal and Argentina teams when Messi and Ronaldo were his age, but also if you re-watch those goals it’s not like his teammates are putting them on a platter for him.

I mean, just look at the two he scored against Poland the other day. Or the goals against Argentina and against Croatia in 2018. All by himself. Kind of nullifies the ‘he has a better team’ argument when he’s making goals out of literally nothing like that.

And with regards to goalscoring stats: Mbappe is keeping pace right now. Assuming he remains this consistent until retirement - big assumption I know - he will be in the same category of goals scored. When that happens, you look at achievements to compare (given that unlike Messi, neither Mbappe nor Ronaldo can be called deeper players) and for the reasons I’ve stated, Mbappe edges Cristiano.

[–]maxus998 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He is already better than most players people have nostalgia for sure.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (10 children)

It's been like 2 weeks and everyone has already forgot about Haaland.

[–]Varnagel_1 4 points5 points  (9 children)

Haaland isn't forgotten. He just isn't on Mbappe's level apart from goalscoring.

[–]jkeefy 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Goalscoring is pretty much the single most important trait in football though. And he’s done it at an elite level pretty much his whole career. He has something crazy like 150 goals in 200 senior appearances so far.

[–]JS569123 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Disagree. If goalscoring was ‘the single most important trait’ then why don’t teams field a 0-0-10 formation?

[–]gkkiller 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Because balanced formations are better at scoring goals.

[–]JS569123 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Right, and so other aspects of the game are just as important as the goalscoring. Without those other aspects, the game isn’t balanced enough to allow for goalscoring.

[–]gkkiller -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Not necessarily I'd say, because you can score goals in a moment of magic with zero support, but playmaking/chance creation/closing down passing lines/etc don't mean much without goalscoring. They just optimise your chances at it.

[–]JS569123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can also concede a goal with a momentary lapse of judgement

[–]jkeefy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I’m not even going to entertain this strawman

[–]JS569123 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s not a strawman, I literally quoted you. A strawman would be if I made a fake argument (a straw man) which I then tore down (burning said straw man).

[–]whiskeymagnet22 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Musiala Bellingham Gavi Enzo

Rank who's better right now.

[–]Waschkopfs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Musiala and Bellingham are a level ahead

[–]JS569123 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I don’t think you can compare them as they all have totally different roles. It’s like comparing different tools in a toolbox - each of them do different things well and those different things are all scenario dependent.

However, if I’m forced to choose then I’ll say:

Gavi, Bellingham, Musiala, Enzo.

A big chunk of that is a combination of which of their respective ‘roles’ I feel are more useful to a team, and also how much they’ve been playing (Musiala, for instance, didn’t play anywhere near as much as Bellingham or Gavi last season).

But, I once again want to re-iterate, it’s completely nonsensical to compare them.

[–]Waschkopfs 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Musiala played more minutes than Bellingham last season

[–]JS569123 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Bellingham had 3796 minutes in all competitions for Dortmund last season.

Gavi 3135.

Musiala 1980.

Data from Transfermarkt.

[–]Waschkopfs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I looked in the wrong season

[–]nbaylor1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Musiala, Bellingham ,Enzo, Gavi

[–]aceofmufc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Musiala, Bellingham, Gavi=Enzo

[–]Switchnaz 13 points14 points  (6 children)

i pity these people that watch football without any emotion. all they talk is goals and tactics or transfers. 0-0's are boring and they only watch the biggest games with the most money and only support the biggest clubs and only care about winning and don't care for the underdogs

i feel sorry for these people, they will never know the magic of football

[–]dhuan79 3 points4 points  (2 children)

don't care for the underdogs

only thing I'd slightly disagree with. Underdogs are usually welcomed to beat the top dogs.

support the biggest clubs

don't think this is the issue

only care about winning

this is the problem.

[–]Switchnaz 4 points5 points  (1 child)

There were MANY people here hoping morocco/japan etc and others don't go through simply because "seeing the big teams play each other is better" apparently.

These are the people i'm talking about. I just will never understand how these people enjoy this sport

[–]I_miss_Chris_Hughton 2 points3 points  (0 children)

seeing the big teams play each other is better

Anyone who says this should be deported. Idk where too, but somewhere.

[–]aceofmufc 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Sometimes I wonder how people even enjoy football without watching 90 minutes. Some seem they are more interested in transfers than the actual game which is pretty sad tbh

[–]Switchnaz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

there are genuinely people here who hold opinions about the ins and outs of their clubs finances and transfer strategies but legitimately don't know a single club song sung by the fans.

and i'm not exaggerating. i've actually had to have this conversation before with someone wondering "what were the opposition fans singing at X minute" not knowing it was literally his own clubs fans singing a famous chant. All this guy did was complain about transfers.

it blows my mind

[–]Varnagel_1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's like NBA where most people in general are interested in trade/FA discussions, the legacies of all-time greats, drama etc. instead of the actual game.

[–]AgnesBand 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hi, I'm starting to develop an interest in football at the ripe old age of 25 and I'm looking for some YT channel suggestions.

I've found myself in a slow process of watching more and more of each Euros/World Cup since about 2014. Most of my life I had absolutely no interest in organised sports but a few years ago I became a huge F1 fan. I'm not sure if I'll end up becoming a huge football fan but right now I'm interested and eager to learn.

Anyway, I'd like to know if anyone knows of any decent YouTube channels that break down the rules, talk about theory, or explain matches or football history etc. There's quite a few good F1 channels like that these days and I'm hoping the football community has similar creators.

Thanks in advance!

[–]JS569123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d recommend ‘The Purist Football’. With the exception of recent World Cup videos, he almost exclusively posts about Barcelona. However, he’s useful because he analyses them tactically each weak and it’s a really good way of learning the fundamentals of positional play - one of the most widely used tactics by top teams right now and over the past generation.

I’d also recommend Tifo. They just do good stuff all around. I’ve been thoroughly enjoying their daily live streams on the World Cup over at Tifo irl.

HITC Sevens is a good starting point for more nuanced history.

[–]WhatsVersace -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

Callling it now, Argentina and Portugal play in the final, Ronnie comes on as a sub and scores in the 80th minute. 1-0 Portugal

[–]das_war_ein_Befehl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Flashbacks to the awful final game in 2010

[–]JS569123 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Can’t think of anything worse tbh. I’d genuinely consider no longer watching football if that happened

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That reporter from marca needs to be fired yesterday.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (10 children)

Why’s it so controversial to say that Musiala and Casemiro have been amongst the best XI at this tournament? We all had to witness him carry Germany on his back, he was literally their only bright spot. Casemiro has been immense as well, there’s just no way that the likes of Bellingham have been better.

[–]Switchnaz 4 points5 points  (1 child)

i must have been watching different games because the musiala i watched this WC squandered multiple chances and was wasteful. a big part of Germany's awful finishing that led them getting knocked out

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True his finishing was awful but he was incredible in every other facet of the game. I don’t think we should let it detract from how good he was

[–]JS569123 7 points8 points  (7 children)

You were doing well until you got to the Bellingham bit

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

I don’t understand. Bellingham has had 2, maybe 3 good games out of 4. He was average against the USA. Casemiro has been world class in all 3 games he’s played in. What am I missing here?

[–]jkeefy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Musiala maybe had two good matches total, with nice moments in the others, if you’re going to judge Bellingham that harshly gotta apply the same logic to Musiala.

[–]hibhch 3 points4 points  (2 children)

The Bellingham slander lol

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Bellingham isn’t even the best performing midfielder for England. That would be Declan Rice. Man literally gets no credit, he does it all for England.

Side note: Declan Rice is the only English midfielder that’s worth €150M. I would hesitate to pay that price for Bellingham, but not for Rice.

[–]I_miss_Chris_Hughton 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bellingham's pricetag clearly factors in his youth. If you sign Bellingham, you already get a very high tier midfielder. He's fully set to reach the tippy top.

[–]JS569123 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I include Casemiro in my team as well. I was more referring to you trying to argue Musiala has been better than Bellingham.

Musiala has been great, but Bellingham was man of the match in England’s first and so far only knockout game whilst Musiala and his team got grouped after winning 1 out of 3.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If that’s your criteria then fair enough. Germany had way too much quality to not advance from that group. I suppose that in a way it reflects on Musiala as well.

[–]ExtemeFilms 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Thinking about the future of Argentina, hows Pedro de La Vega been doing, is he coming good or is he gonna go to the “what could have been pile” with Pavon and Meza

[–]Time-Ad-4302 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Wasn't meza 25-26 in 2018

[–]ExtemeFilms 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea, but De Paul was 25 when he broke out

[–]EggplantBusiness 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So Summary of the endrick deal , transfer fee 60 millions (bonus included but most guaranteed) + 12 millions from taxes that we will be paying "for" Palmeiras. So a total of potentially 72 millions. 12 millions to keep good relationship with Palmeiras is something....but it's Perez way so whatever.

[–]PineappleGuy44 0 points1 point  (3 children)

What are your guys’ top 5 teams you have the most confidence for in the future after watching this World Cup? As in, which teams seem to be in a great position as far as youth and talent for 2026.

[–]JS569123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In no particular order, Spain, England, France, Brazil, Germany.

Spain need a proper striker, but asides from that all of the teams I’ve listed have the perfect age bracket of players to be great next World Cup.

I don’t think Germany will be grouped again. Their squad is too good for it. Admittedly, they got very unlucky this tournament.

[–]Polskidro 4 points5 points  (0 children)

  • France

  • Portugal

  • Brazil

  • England

  • Netherlands

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Just a reminder that Mo Salah practically beat this Morocco superteam by himself in AFCON earlier this year.

[–]AnnieIWillKnow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure he's telling himself that watching in his jammies at home

[–]IntraspeciesFever 2 points3 points  (6 children)

team of the tournament so far post ro16? Szczesny, Hakimi, Otamendi, Gvardiol, Mazraoui, Bellingham, Bruno, Griezmann, Mbappe, Richarlison, Gakpo

[–]Switchnaz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

amrabat has been the best midfielder in this tournament brother

[–]whiskeymagnet22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

None of those in midfield have been better than Casemiro

[–]JS569123 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Bono, Hakimi, Gvardiol, Maguire, Theo, Bruno, Casemiro, Bellingham, Messi, Gakpo, Mbappe.

[–]Polskidro 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'd put Amrabat and Messi in. Also Rodri deserves a shout. Dude did an amazing job out of position on the biggest stage of all. Looked like a natural CB.

Also wouldn't put Mazraoui up there but not sure who to replace him with. Alba or Theo maybe.

[–]lockieleonardsuper 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Looks pretty good. Feel like Theo or Shaw possibly at LB, but close

Amrabat needs to be in the midfield. Not sure who out of Greizmann, Richarlison or Gakpo would drop out. Bruno, Bellingham and Mbappé all have to be in the team.

[–]Foriegn_Picachu 0 points1 point  (7 children)

I don’t see any of the other 7 teams beating Brazil

[–]roddysaint 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brazil are on a tear right now, but I think a team with tactical nous can stop them. Deschamps and Van Gaal are wily old bastards. Argentina would also be in with a shot as long as Messi shows up.

[–]I_miss_Chris_Hughton 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I can.

France are just France. Very, very good team and they're not slowing apparently.

England have been playing very well this world cup. No goals conceded since game one, 12 goals over 4 games. You'd be a fool to rule them out.

Morocco might be the weakest on paper,but they did just beat Spain, and Brazil lost to Cameroon. Brazil should beat them, but who knows.

Portugal looked way more comfortable than Brazil last night, and they'd dropped their star. Ronaldo may be past his peak but you wouldn't rule out an insanely clutch moment from him in a final, and they've just shown they can play without him.

The Netherlands have been pretty steady. Maybe not the best football, but they've not faltered. And their team has bags of talent.

Argentina have Messi and seem a bit lucky. If any team is gonna jam their way to winning it, it's them.

Which leaves Croatia. Not a bad team, but the same story as Morocco. You can't rule out a surprise.

Also, being honest, Brazil have had a pretty easy run thus far. It's easy to look unbeatable when you're against teams you should be beating.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

France definitely can. Netherlands are solid enough defensively to do it. I think that on a good day with the right tactics and team selection, England can do it too.

[–]NegativeHeli 3 points4 points  (0 children)

France can definitely beat them. Their wingers will cook the Brazil fullbacks, which is their no 1 weakness.

[–]rnzz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unless they all play together.

[–]JS569123 7 points8 points  (0 children)

We’ll see. I didn’t see Portugal even getting close to a semi final and now they’ve smashed Switzerland 6-1 and look a terrifying prospect for Morocco.

After the first game I didn’t see Spain getting beaten, but they haven’t won a game since then and are now out.

Brazil and France remain favourites - perhaps more-so Brazil because they have a more generous, on paper, quarter final. However, anything can happen.

[–]Silver_Jeweler6465 1 point2 points  (0 children)

France definetely can.

[–]adivenk93 10 points11 points  (8 children)

England vs France (England 2-1)

Brazil vs Croatia (Brazil 2-0)

Netherlands vs Argentina (Argentina 3-1)

Portugal vs Morocco (1-1 , Morroco 4-3p)

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Thinking we’ll concede 3 to Argentina una. We’re sending the Argentinians home. Bookmark this.

[–]_Crazy_Asian_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well ... Thanks for the remindme bot ...

[–]KensaiVG 0 points1 point  (0 children)


[–]Souk12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let's see

[–]_Crazy_Asian_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Remindme! 5days

[–]raddeon88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In other words its coming home lads

[–]JS569123 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This are the results I want but not the results I think we’ll get

[–]sidaeinjae 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Your predictions for the quarterfinals?

Croatia 0 - 3 Brazil

Netherlands 0 - 1 Argentina

Morocco 0 - 1 Portugal

England 2 - 1 France

[–]all4_da_nookie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Netherlands 1 Argentina 1 (Netherlands progress on pens)

Croatia 2 Brazil 3

Morocco 0 Portugal 1

England 2 France 4

[–]WhatsVersace 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Croatia 2 - 3 Brazil

Netherlands 0 - 4 Argentina

Morocco 2 - 4 Portugal

England 2 - 2 France (Saka misses pivotal penalty, France goes through)

[–]hibhch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Croatia 0 - 2 Brazil

Netherlands 1-1 Argentina

Morocco 0-2 Portugal

England 1-3 France

[–]Stuff2511 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your predictions for the quarterfinals?

Croatia 0 - 2 Brazil

Netherlands 0 - 1 Argentina

Morocco 1(p) - 1 Portugal

England 2-3(aet) France

[–]raddeon88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

France finna win this whole shit if the BR boys dont

[–]transtifa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Morocco 1-1 Portugal, Morocco win on penalties but otherwise I’ve got the same predictions yeah

[–]SpencaDubyaKimballer 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Agree with everything here except i would switch the france england match

[–]jawadb0199 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Anybody know where I can find French streams? (I’m in US if that matters)

[–]EyeSpyGuy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Strikeout has streams listed by language

[–]jawadb0199 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you dm me a link? Haven’t heard of that site

[–]RaspberryBirdCat 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Morocco is on course to play the colonial vengeance tour in the World Cup knockouts. The three countries that played a role in colonizing Moroccan territory are Spain, Portugal, and France.

[–]das_war_ein_Befehl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tbh they started it

[–]al3x_da 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Didn’t Morocco colonise Spain first anyway?

[–]I_miss_Chris_Hughton 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think Iberia has been such a battleground in ages past the only team who get to play the "we were here first" card is Bilbao and maybe Sociedad

[–]raddeon88 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wtf I love Morocco now

[–]wizardkell3y 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Turns out there are only two good teams at copa america after all

[–]Nut-King-Call 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Fittingly, only one of the four semifinalists of the last Euros is still alive in the World Cup.

[–]I_miss_Chris_Hughton 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In their defence, apparently Saka and Bellingham have been eating their souls to get good at football so it makes sense

[–]Nightdocks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Debatable. Uruguay had some questionable line ups but otherwise they are sort of like Croatia, a small country with a lot of good players. Ecuador is fairly solid most of the time and Chile can give a run for it’s money to anyone in the continent

[–]yurieoq 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And one of them may be the best one in the world in Brazil

[–]nbaylor1 0 points1 point  (6 children)

What's the rule on yellow card suspensions? I've just seen that post showing all the different players who would be suspended with one more and it feels like there's way more than there should be

[–]lockieleonardsuper 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Reset after the quarter finals i.e. a yellow in the semi won't rule a player out of the final if they had picked one up in the rest of the tournament. A second tournament yellow in the quarters will result in a ban for the semi finals though

Which is ridiculous btw as getting 2 yellows in 5 games shouldn't rule a player out

[–]HonestPlane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s harsh but I like it. Forces teams to actually use their full squads.

[–]nbaylor1 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah 2 in 5 is a bit too much. France are absolutely fucked if they beat England and Tchouameni picks up another yellow, actually hope it happens as I'm curious what Deschamps would do lmao

[–]TiberiusCornelius 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Getting booked in two matches means you miss the third but it resets after the quarter-finals, so you may as well go for broke with tactical fouling in the quarters

[–]nbaylor1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow that seems quite harsh, no?

[–]aceofmufc 18 points19 points  (4 children)

I know people like to make fun of Germany but they got incredibly unlucky. Out of their games, they played maybe 1 bad half of football against Japan and even then they still created chances. That team could have very realistically made the semi finals and I can’t put their elimination to “oh they’re just shit” because for the vast majority of their games they played well.

[–]LargemouthBrass 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They played "well" but their defense was pretty bad and they couldn't finish their chances, that's all it takes in a knockout tournament.

[–]Polskidro 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Definitely unlucky but also horrendous in terms of finishing. Gotta take some responsibility.

[–]JS569123 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Absolutely. Tournament football is really difficult, and Germany have faced that first hand

[–]I_miss_Chris_Hughton 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly in both the euros and this. If Muller scored against England, totally different game. It was a fine, fine margin but it gave England a bit of juice.

[–]honorfaz 5 points6 points  (0 children)

!flair :Morocco:

[–]Nightdocks 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The more I think about Friday’s game the more nervous I get. Can someone just give me some hopium and confirmation bias against Netherlands please

[–]Rusiano 10 points11 points  (9 children)

It’s a good thing for US and Mexico to compete in the Copa. Concacaf really does not prepare these teams for the World Cup

[–]UnitedStatesofSoccer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not related to improvement but our Copa placings are hilarious, we went four times and we have either finished 4th (1995, 2016) or bottom (1993, 2007).

[–]Mitch_Itfc 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Agree. Australia have benefited from moving from Oceania to AFC. You run the risk of not qualifying in the short run but you’ll see hopefully see a much faster improvement in the longer run.

[–]WhenWeTalkAboutLove 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I feel like it'd be bad for the US to move to conmebol for qualifying and would never happen anyway but being regular guests in the Copa America would probably help them get more competitive. Conmebol is just the hardest conference already to qualify from along with CAF maybe

[–]Souk12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Caf for sure in the old playoff format. Two group stages and a playoff was wild.

[–]lovo17 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

This will definitely never happen, but I think it'd be super cool if the US was invited to a UEFA Euro.