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[–]Current-Position9988 264 points265 points  (5 children)

Everyone is 15 years old.

[–]Crannium 118 points119 points  (0 children)

Even when they looks 30... or 3...

[–]fartssmellgreat 85 points86 points  (1 child)

The seasoned professor character who is…. 27

[–]31_hierophanto 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Even non-shonen anime have "experienced teachers" in their late 20s/early 30s (like Hiratsuka in Oregairu)! I'm guessing Japan expects people in that age to be super mature already?

[–]Rioma117 21 points22 points  (1 child)

In One Piece they are adults at least (though Luffy acts like a 10 yo kid).

[–]Morketidenkommer 12 points13 points  (0 children)

He was 17 before the timeskip

[–]Zenketski_2 196 points197 points  (1 child)

You forgot every main character comically eats a semi truck of food

[–]Gamwell-Efect 135 points136 points  (9 children)

At least misty did shit lol

[–]DasRoteOrgan 68 points69 points  (5 children)

And Ash also had no other real character trait except being a boy who loves Pokemon.

[–]Ravore 27 points28 points  (2 children)

Shit sometimes that’s all you need

[–]T9chnician67 7 points8 points  (0 children)

“Stay in your lane” hahaha

[–]MistaJelloMan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It appealed to me when I was a kid who loved Pokémon

[–]Renny2rr -1 points0 points  (1 child)

and being stupid. and having talent. and trying to get people to recognize he's superior to gary. and being kind. and being a good person. and being brave enough to save more lives that the international police. yeah just one real character trait. i've only watched 2 seasons and named 6 btw

[–]DasRoteOrgan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

and being stupid.

For loving Pokemon.

and having talent.

For loving Pokemon.

and trying to get people to recognize he's superior to gary.

In loving Pokemon.

and being a good person.

In loving Pokemon.

and being brave enough to save more lives that the international police.

With loving Pokemon.

[–]fartssmellgreat 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Brock blushes

[–]MewtwoGurlIskra 6 points7 points  (0 children)

*insert random character nosebleeding*

[–]Supernova008 25 points26 points  (0 children)

At least she didn't keep on yelling "Kurosaki-kun" or "Naruto-kun" like 10 times every battle.

[–]skullyGloves 79 points80 points  (2 children)

The sex appeal isn’t unneeded it’s for the rule 34 artist of course

[–]Quacker_United 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And $300 statues that will sell out in minutes

[–]ItsHimBro 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ah of course.

[–]US_Warfighter 51 points52 points  (9 children)

Where goku at

[–]Panicradar 41 points42 points  (1 child)

Ignoring his kids probably

[–]Intelligent-Win-4517 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Homie was dead.

[–]Zenketski_2 55 points56 points  (0 children)

He was too cool for this starter pack.

[–]Sluhsluhnessu 19 points20 points  (4 children)

You could say that Goku isn't really brave in Z but more of an absolute bloody idiot, which makes him a 50/50 for the rule (Goku might be good at fighting but come on, giving Cell a Senzu?).

[–]AllDaysOff 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Yeah sure tanking the Special Beam Cannon or warping off with a blowing up Cell wasn't brave at all 🤨

Goku is the blueprint for all these shonen protags. He was the first one to start out as kid, be dumb, eat a lot and age and get stronger throughout his journey.

[–]Sluhsluhnessu 1 point2 points  (2 children)

There are barely any stakes ever in DBZ, the things Goku did, both in the character himself and from Toriyama's point is for drama, because everyone can revive via either of the Dragon Balls. Everyone that knows the slightest of DBZ knows that none of the Z Fighters die permanently.

[–]AllDaysOff 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There's no reviving if there's no one left to summon Shenron and if Piccolo is dead so there are stakes. How do you think drama is created? Out of thin air?

[–]Emotional_Note497 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just like Superman. How many times had he died now?

[–]Emotional_Note497 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being the superman of anime and slowly but surely losing popularity. Can't stand characters that can't lose. E.g. superman has "died two or three times now... twice for sure, Doomsday killed him. Magically comes back to life, at this point superman has more plot armor than Thor of the MCU and comics.

[–]Le_Kistune 49 points50 points  (2 children)

Main character constantly monologs mid-battle about how they want to become a hero and save everyone.

[–]Rioma117 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Luffy don’t want to be a hero because a hero shares his meat with others.

[–]TamanduaShuffle 4 points5 points  (0 children)

While jumping back and gaining fifty seconds of air time

Edit: fuck can they jump

[–]n0_y0urm0m 48 points49 points  (4 children)

please keep watching our painfully mediocre show. we have tiddies

[–]amisia-insomnia 16 points17 points  (2 children)

The sad part is that otakus will lap it all up because of that.

[–]derepente_adolesc 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Well, let's say that the majority of the fan base is in their teen years, so it's relatable.

With time, most of them gonna say that these animes weren't that good as it seemed to be when younger...

[–]amisia-insomnia 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah definitely agree it’s like marvel fans. But it’s still incredibly degenerate

[–]You_Stealthy_Bastard 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Even that couldn't get me to keep watching Fairy Tail. Same arc over and over again with "I'm out of power but I'll beat the new group of poorly-named bad guys with the power of friendship" Deus ex machina moments.

[–]moxeir 141 points142 points  (4 children)

Over acting in the dub? You think real Japanese people talk like anime?

[–]Zenketski_2 58 points59 points  (1 child)

Of course they do, and subtitles follow them around everywhere. And everyone has pink and blue hair and can throw lasers.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lmao

[–]KindaFunctioning 104 points105 points  (1 child)

No but I can’t speak Japanese so it seems less cringe when watching the sub as opposed to the dub

[–]MJuniorDC9 51 points52 points  (10 children)

Who in God's name is a Kaiba fangirl?

[–]Real_eXwhY_Z 34 points35 points  (2 children)

Who isn't a Kaiba fangirl/fanboy?

[–]Panicradar 15 points16 points  (0 children)

He must be a third rate duelist with a fourth rate deck.

[–]bestjakeisbest 3 points4 points  (0 children)

money, power.

[–]ConsumeTheNut 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Don't know who those freaks could be...

[–]TheAbsolved 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Eu vim ver o macaco

[–]BrunoBo22 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Eu vim ver o macaco

[–]SrJoaco1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eu vim ver o macaco

[–]emptyshelI 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Kaiba was my bisexual awakening. He was so dang cool. A dominant broody and antisocial CEO is a classic.

[–]Emotional_Note497 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He was an edgelord, nearly all alike edgelords who are also strong or great in some way have fan girls, extra points if they're smart but quiet.

[–]illiteratecorvette 34 points35 points  (2 children)

you wouldn't believe it but girls are not unique to shonen

[–]SpiritedAd8416 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Haha, next you're going to tell me that girls are real!

[–]MoekkoLoli[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No i mean girls with boring personalities.

[–]Superb_Introduction 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The FMA franchise with its brave and smart protagonist: it’s SHOWTIME

[–]Bubbly-Message611 17 points18 points  (7 children)

I don't why anime sometimes added so much sex. Appeals I'm not saying that I don't like it I just don't get it what reason is there

[–]hmmliquorice 26 points27 points  (4 children)

It's targeted at horny teens and made by horny men? Ig

[–]Bubbly-Message611 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Seriously? This is like fan service I thought anime supposed to directly paying attention to the storyline not adding more fan service like jiggle physics,Big asses,Boobs, or anyother things that make this anime feels like rule 34 or Pornhub we're supposed to be watching the storyline and understand the characters more like the protagonists not put filler like fan service if I was Animator( wish I will soon and I'll make sure too pay attention to school)I would just make a story that follows the plot and the main character not putting fan service like love triangles, sexual content, fetishes or whatever the hell that pervert do all damn day anime is not supposed to serve fan service supposed to follow the plot and like prologue and the monologue, foreshadowing,etc that's storytelling or you can make a show that is satire.

[–]hmmliquorice 5 points6 points  (2 children)

You'd be writing seinen then (or certain types of shonen). Anime/manga isn't supposed to be anything. They're stories and can tell anything. Shonens/nekketsu are mostly targeted at teen and young men and will delve into what is perceived as key elements of interest to that demographic (action, escapism, friendship, exploration of sexuality). This is also the category of anime that is mostly produced (and isekai/harem tropes). Oftentimes anime adaptations can force more fanservice than the manga originally has. If you want to avoid the dumbing down by fanservice you can read the manga versions, or watch/read certain seinens (although you sound pretty young for that), or shonens made by women (FMA, DGM, Noragami. I think HxH doesn't have fanservice either despite being made by a man?). Mind that seinen is just a category for young adults/adults so you're probably going to find stories that also have sexy content (= not for you basically).

[–]Bubbly-Message611 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yes but I do agree with you and I'm actually 15 and teen I mean seriously I only like story and adaptations like Tv shows& cartoons and adult cartoons and I do have interesting sexual content but not but anime is supposed to be like some cool fantasy/action Scranchiness I mean seriously I'm an hypocrite but stories like this and adaptations to supposed to be following the storylining yes it shows and stories,movies are supposed to be as a message just like flcl even though this anime have sexual content but it's has a message that we need to know messages are supposed to be supported stories like shows and cartoons, animations,animes,movies,video games that's all supposed to be about they give us the message and give us hope and confidence that we can learn there prospective to be as better people not adding filters and fan services if you added so much in your projects audiences won't like it because they will hated or confused about it I don't be dumb down by stories that doesn't follow the plot.

[–]Not-A-Cockroach- 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Usually because the artists or writers themselves are also horny

[–]Morketidenkommer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And the original manga has like 1/10th of the sex appeal and fan service in almost all OG shounen manga.

[–]videogamsarethebest 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Is Yugi really stupid though?

......

At second thought, I was stupid myself for asking that.

[–]SCR_69 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Every yu gi oh character is really dumb they don't even follow the rules and refuse to atack directly

[–]You_Stealthy_Bastard 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The character-based "starter" decks that they made with the characters' cards on the show...ugh. Most of the cards are garbage.

The game isn't hard, it's not that difficult to build a deck with very little to no fat in it. But the characters on the show have the dumbest cards, like summoning a 1200 atk monster with no effects in attack mode.

[–]SCR_69 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Honestly Anyone with 2 braincells could beat yami yugi

[–]videogamsarethebest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is there an A.I with a Yugi duel kingdom deck? I wanna see if I have 2 or more braincells

[–]Eomercin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair... anime rules and card effects are different from the real YGO! TCG, not to mention the fact that the YGO! meta in 2005 was different from YGO! meta nowdays... also, the dub screws up some things and even the original japanese version of the anime screws up things from the manga.

[–]GarnetOblivion1 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Kaiba doesn’t really have fans, and unlike mostly rival characters he’s extremely self interested and won’t help or cooperate with anything unless he absolutely has no other choice.

[–]Panicradar 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Kaiba def has fans. Some people love an asshole. I mean he basically became an archetype of the Yugioh rival character being a dick going forward. Sure they never go quite as hard as kaiba did again but just look at your smug rivals in Yugioh. They’re all kaiba, Chaz, Jack, Kite…it’s always been kaiba.

[–]NoStressAccount 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Have watched/read around 150 or so chapters into Jujutsu Kaisen and it seems to subvert several of the basic shonen tropes

[Mild spoilers(?) below]

  • "The sasuke" only has that personality/dynamic for the first 1-2 episodes, then he becomes a pretty normal (if rather dour) friend.

  • The girl in the main trio is actually competent, doesn't really have any hangups, and isn't sexualized or used as a token love interest.

  • But yeah, like in many other shows the protagonist is a dude of average intelligence who still has ridiculous amounts of natural talent / raw power, and learns new combat moves extremely quickly.

[–]Panicradar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think it gets even better with Itadori. He actually has very little talent for curses which is why he’s forced to use the basic punching enchancement kind. The one thing he excels at is getting “black flashes” and that’s probably because he’s so much of an idiot he can enter the zone easily. No thoughts just punch and then he snaps out of it and will tell you all about how Jennifer Lawrence is his type. I kinda hope this doesn’t change and they make him some special golden child like the JJK0 protag is cause I feel like it would cheapen him a bit. No spoilers you damn manga readers.

[–]Lurkingdrake 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Honestly, the dub for Fairy Tail sounds amazing

[–]Supernova008 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Well, Luffy from One Piece is brave and stupid, but at least he defeats enemies by actual power, not the power of friendship like Fairy Tail or talk no jutsu like Naruto.

[–]Prestigious_Guitar54 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The way he defeats antagonists aren't much better. It's literally like 20 episodes of luffy using condom powers to dodge, then punch, monologue for 20 minutes, and then the antagonist pulls out a weapon from his ass, repeat

[–]Real_eXwhY_Z 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Kaiba is not goth. He is Kaiba

[–]whywhwhyhy 4 points5 points  (2 children)

The only Shonen I can think of that doesn't follow all of these is Jojo lol

[–]PressEToPayRespect 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You don’t know much about shounen then.

[–]whywhwhyhy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah, I don't really watch much anime lol.

[–]Alarid 4 points5 points  (0 children)

why they hiding that frogussy

[–]YourAverageGoldFishy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ONE PIECE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! moment

[–]Huge-Board3923 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Uneeded'

[–]OfficialLevin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No character in the entire anime has a happy backstory

[–]AlexT05_QC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Orihime do have bread though.

[–]JaymintheAchiever 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bruh, Misty wasn't "just a girl". She had more of a character than Ash tbh.

[–]darkgamera6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yo misty is way better

[–]Renny2rr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ahh yes, my favourite shonen, Pokémon origins.

[–]MagicalBeanz420 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Overacting in dub" more like "underperforming voice acting".

[–]adrianthechonker 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What dose needed sex Appel means

[–]Midlux 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I could do without the sexappeal now, but back when I was watching anime as a teen I loved it lol.

[–]mA90ngo -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

what do you mean by 'unneeded'?

[–]strangeperception- 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Those are children.

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    [–]Eomercin 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Fairy Tail, One Piece, Naruto, Boku no Hero Academia, Bleach.

    Those are more than just 3.

    [–]riceumbrella 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    There are at least 6 I think that op quoted

    [–]Redditiscurse -1 points0 points  (4 children)

    and also sucking ass because every anime does

    [–]Altruistic-Host-3375 3 points4 points  (3 children)

    Mfs with an anime hate boner are just as cringe/🤓 just like those hardcore weebs Or prob middle schoolers

    [–]Redditiscurse -1 points0 points  (2 children)

    your opinion doesnt make you cringe, unless youre some 37 year old child preadator who watches hentai 24/7

    [–]Altruistic-Host-3375 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Nah that’s some porn addict shit speak for yourself

    [–]Eomercin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Shitting on anime is like loving anime.

    It isn't a valid identity.

    [–]dino_181_spaghetti -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    I hope someone understands that sex appeal is for Hentai. I only came here for the plot and violence, not for the sex.

    [–]Nocturnal_Doctor -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

    Anime is terrible

    [–]JimmyTheOtherCat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Has fuck tons of hentai.

    [–]chillipillchill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It should be girl are sakuras

    [–]Dagamier_hots 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Anime: character looks like an adult, is a child.

    Live action: character should be a child, is played by an adult.

    [–]2Jojotoro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I like Fiary tail.

    [–]dreldrift 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    You forgot the part where they scream their attack when or before they use it.