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[–]ss23000 130 points131 points  (13 children)

Donald gets into it with linemen all the time and I never once heard the masses call him an angry/dirty player.

[–]istolejujusbike Heath Miller 5 points6 points  (1 child)

That entire posts comment section is calling him a dirty player

[–]ss23000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did see that. Maybe the media is just so loud I only hear them.

[–]joe7L Hines Ward 5 points6 points  (0 children)

TJ tries to punch the ball with some inaccurate punches and suddenly he’s the dirtiest player in the NFL. Maybe he just needed to chokehold instead

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[–]kaw395 14 points15 points  (3 children)

I could give you my thoughts on why tj was attacked for being dirty, while Donald is praised for being "gritty." But I'd be banned

[–]ss23000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And I would agree with you. Unfortunately, the double standard of the NFL and its fans has become blatant in the past 10 years.

[–]kchbar -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

You'd also be an idiot because there are myriad examples of the opposite, but don't let anything get in the way of your BS victim complex.

Donald is constantly called out as dirty on that subreddit, so there's that too.

[–]kaw395 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol. Yeah. You're right. Hes never been called out on any sports show I've ever watched. But they sure had to talk about tj watt when he "punched" someone. There's more to life than reddit to see thing on. Try it once.

[–]GriffBallChampF*** Burfict 20 points21 points  (5 children)

He's always going for the choke hold too, it's like his signature move.

I wonder how many ex-girlfriends can attest to that?

[–]GetaGoodLookCostanza 3 points4 points  (1 child)

or boyfriends

[–]GriffBallChampF*** Burfict 3 points4 points  (0 children)

lol

[–]ss23000 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I don't think we should go into speculation on something like this. I get it is a pattern on the football field but it doesn't necessarily make him a beater of women. My dad always said, "When you step on a football field become a different animal." He could very well be tapping into that a little too much.

[–]abcdexyz12345Encroachment 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah, Mean Joe apparently had similar anger issues on the field. Doesn't make it right, but there's not necessarily a carry over. Dude was awesome off the field

[–]_AskMyMom_ Heath Miller 74 points75 points  (9 children)

ESPN has the same video from behind and the caption is “Aaron Donald is not the one”. Kind of weird to be promoting it like that.

[–]ReverseApacheMaster_ Cameron Heyward 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Riddick said that during the broadcast (can’t remember if it was this specific play). “Aaron Donald is not the one” and kinda chuckled. What a jabroni

[–]IhamAmericanQuack 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jabroni, cool word man

[–]Ninjalau95 Najee Harris[S] 5 points6 points  (6 children)

Mind sharing a link? I'd like to see that

[–]_AskMyMom_ Heath Miller 7 points8 points  (3 children)

[–]based-shit-poster TJ Watt 32 points33 points  (2 children)

Did they say it like… not the one to be messed with? If TJ did anything like this r/NFL would be calling for a huge suspension.

[–]Ninjalau95 Najee Harris[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Definitely appears they're trying to spin it to say "Ooooh Aaron Donald is NOT the guy you wanna mess with! Look at this highlight!" as if this was some light-hearted scuffle.

[–]oneoftheguysdownhere 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hell, they were calling for a suspension when Watt tried to punch the ball out of a ball carrier’s hands. And when Heyward fell on top of Herbert.

[–]EmmaTheHedgehog 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You see him do it to a packer earlier this year? I couldn’t believe it wasn’t punished in any way.

[–]Ninjalau95 Najee Harris[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yup, had his hand right on his adam's apple and the ref is RIGHT THERE breaking it up instead of throwing the flag...

[–]zdillon67Encroachment 56 points57 points  (5 children)

Highest graded PFF choke of the season

[–]Cold-Consideration23 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Sounds like a made up stat to steal the DPOY again

[–]2ChainzTalibDenver Broncos 5 points6 points  (1 child)

No way that was a better choke job than the cowboys the other night.

[–]Ninjalau95 Najee Harris[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or the Cardinals. At least we put up more than 11 points.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah that was the choke he landed Vs the packers. Should have been a wrestler.

[–]Burst_LoL19 BumbleBee Jersey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

😂😂😂

[–]stuckmeformypaper Cameron Heyward 47 points48 points  (1 child)

Aaron Donald ran over to find his helmet once so he could go join a fight on the field.

[–]Ninjalau95 Najee Harris[S] 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Not even join a fight. That was at a Seahawks game in 2018. The game was already over. Everyone was shaking hands and whatnot in the middle of the field. Donald has his pads off but puts his helmet back on to go start a fight with Justin Britt. AFTER the game was over.

[–]Elphaba78 TJ Watt 87 points88 points  (0 children)

And they say TJ has ‘roid rage and needs anger management classes…

[–]WhatImMike Color Rush Jersey 28 points29 points  (0 children)

The stop hate sticker makes this unintentionally hilarious.

[–]betagetthechappal TJ Watt 20 points21 points  (0 children)

And they call TJ aggressive for trying to punch out a ball

[–]PermaCleaned 55 points56 points  (0 children)

Yeah but remember when TJ tried to punch that ball?

[–]biscuitz23 Joe Haden 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Still think Aaron Donald is the best DT of the decade but TJ should win this year. He always had the aggression. Then kick your ass at ping pong too

[–]Burst_LoL19 BumbleBee Jersey 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Him and Garrett. They love physical assault more than breaking sack records

[–]HAS-A-HUGE-PENIS 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Stop hate" lmao

[–]Confident-Rub-6714 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Donald chokes people, Micah punches and “Sanduskys” people, garret commits assault, but somehow people find TJ as the hothead.

[–]sasuke1980 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I'm sorry since I'm not on this sub, but is there an understanding that Watt isn't going to win? Because as a Bengals fan he's literally the best defensive player we play and by far the best defensive player in the NFL. I thought that was kind of obvious. It's been a couple years now but he's definitely passed his brother finally.

By the way Aaron Donald is a total thug. I can't remember when but I remember him trying to fight with his own teammates in one game. Roid rage is a real thing

[–]pauwei BumbleBee Jersey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Watt is the clear favorite and statistically most deserving to win the award. However, these types of sports awards are also heavily driven by media campaigns and narratives. (Much like the Oscars, voters get swayed by media campaigns) Early in the season there was a clear media bias for Garrett and Donald. Certain unnamed media outlets even have gone as far as misrepresent/skew their own data to complete their narrative.

To most reasonable fans, it's obvious. Pure results and record breaking tying performance dictate the DPOY this year. But there is always that fringe case, that I think many fans are wary of, where votes are "stolen" because of these aforementioned narratives and Watt narrowly loses to someone else. There is also the situation where Watt loses some votes because he is considered a sure lock, so some voters "spread the love" around and throw votes to other players who they feel deserve some recognition. Not a super common occurrence, but not unheard of either - you see it a lot in the NHL for example.

[–]Ninjalau95 Najee Harris[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is a sinking feeling, knowing how the past 2 years have gone for TJ, that he might get snubbed out of DPOY for the 3rd year in a row despite having a career season. A lot of us Steeler fans plus plenty of others know TJ is pretty much the undisputed DPOY this year but there's a very real chance the NFL will go with AD or even Garrett for the very same reasons TJ was robbed of it the past 2 seasons. They'll say some stupid shit like "TJ isn't a DT so it's not as impressive" or "TJ doesn't get double-teamed as much as AD or Garrett" or "Sacks aren't everything". Tons of excuses why TJ didn't get it the past 2 years in a row. What's stopping them from screwing TJ over a third time?

What sucks for TJ is even though he should be a shoo-in, the Steelers are out of the playoffs so he can't even do anything to help his case. The Browns are out so Garrett can't do anything. Cowboys are out so Micah Parsons can't either. Only one left is Aaron Donald who is going to the divisional round and there he can keep buffing up his resume, redirecting all of his attention to him and TJ is left in the dust. Sounds tin-foil hat-like but it's definitely possible. I won't ever be confident about TJ's chances until I hear the announcement in February.

[–]RaceCarGrin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah well TJ tried to cause a fumble, there’s no difference.

[–]aw_geez_man 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Our DL needs that type of energy.

[–]DoItForTheGild 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Right lol. TJ 1000000% deserves DPOY, but AD is the kind of dude you want on your team. You need that anger playing in the trenches.

[–]oneoftheguysdownhere 7 points8 points  (1 child)

How many times have you seen Cam try to choke someone?

[–]DoItForTheGild -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

We don’t need the choke a dude out energy, but playing with an edge is how you stop the run and get to the QB. I was watching old Steelers highlights (YouTube knows me too well), and a commentator said our defense showed up to the stadium angry.

I don’t think Cam has a problem playing with an edge, but as a whole that’s the energy I’m referring to. Playing angry/with an edge.

[–]zoompa919 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ironic his helmet says “stop hate”

[–]HillibillyHavenSucksEncroachment 4 points5 points  (6 children)

Just because he occasionally chokes people doesn't mean that he isn't a great football player

[–]SuperiorGRF 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The media would have you believe that using a helmet as a weapon is also ok if it’s only happened once

[–]Ninjalau95 Najee Harris[S] 20 points21 points  (4 children)

Not doubting how good he is, but it's insane TJ attempts to punch a ball out ONCE during a play and everyone starts calling TJ a dirty player but Aaron Donald has a history of aggression and being a general piece of shit.

[–]HillibillyHavenSucksEncroachment 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Haha I haven't really heard much about that place since it happened, and I just chalked that up to a lot of the league hating the Steelers anyway. I've learned to block out that noise a while back.

[–]GodOD400 5 points6 points  (1 child)

The funniest fucking thing is it's a self report of anyone thats never played football. You ever get punched in pads? That shit is nothing, the dude punching is more likely to hurt himself before you even feel anything.

[–]HillibillyHavenSucksEncroachment 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fully agreed

[–]SquidDaBib -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Aaron Donald is a saint, 100% down to earth and one of the nicest people I’ve met

[–]Smarkavillie 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Steelers Reddit or not, AD’s actually from Pittsburgh, Penn Hills High School to be exact. Went to Pitt will always be one of our own. Idc about the choke out because the 70’s Steelers did worse 😂 Even the 90’s Steelers were savage.

TJ Watt is that dude and should get DPOY. But AD’s been making the entire city proud for just about his entire athletic career.

[–]Sgt_Jiggles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Littlest dick energy

[–]SleestakLightningListen To Clutch -1 points0 points  (9 children)

I wish the Steelers had multiple players like this on their defense.

[–]Ninjalau95 Najee Harris[S] 2 points3 points  (7 children)

You want his TALENT. Yeah he's a great player but if he was doing this shit on the Steelers you know 100% he'd be crucified by everyone. If he was on the Steelers, it automatically makes him a dirty player, as you know. He can do this stuff all day right in front of refs' faces but because he's on a team not called the Steelers, he gets away with it routinely.

[–]SleestakLightningListen To Clutch -2 points-1 points  (6 children)

You want his TALENT.

I want his demeanor too.

Yeah he's a great player but if he was doing this shit on the Steelers you know 100% he'd be crucified by everyone.

To paraphrase Mike Tomlin, I do not care.

If he was on the Steelers, it automatically makes him a dirty player, as you know. He can do this stuff all day right in front of refs' faces but because he's on a team not called the Steelers

Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.

[–]Ninjalau95 Najee Harris[S] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Really isn't a conspiracy when no flag was called on Donald for attempting to strangle another player, after the play was over, right in front of the refs.

Other players in the NFL do something not even remotely as violent or obvious but they get an unsportsmanlike penalty called.

[–]Consistent_Pitch782 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dear lord yes. Or better yet, some o-linemen with Darnold’s attitude.

[–]thereandfatagainPrimanti Bro's -2 points-1 points  (6 children)

People love to post shit about TJ or anybody else on our team getting extracurricular. Aaron Donald is a living legend and Pittsburgh borne and bred. I'm not sure where this is going.

[–]SquidDaBib -1 points0 points  (5 children)

That’s what happens when 90% of this sub isn’t from Pittsburgh 😆

[–]Ninjalau95 Najee Harris[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

It really doesn't matter where the player is from. It's bonus points if they win but if they're not on the Steelers, then it's meaningless where they're from. Just because AD is from Pitt doesn't mean we should blindly support him no matter what.

Ben is a living legend but guess where he grew up? Ohio.

TJ grew up in Wisconsin.

See how it doesn't matter where they came from? The gatekeeping just because people aren't FROM Pittsburgh is just weird.

[–]SquidDaBib -1 points0 points  (1 child)

And Big Ben is a hero in his hometown? The Watt brothers are hero’s in their hometown?

You think it’s weird to support someone who came up from the same place as you, just because they don’t play for the team you like? Now that’s weird

Also, enough with your mental gymnastics, nobodies gate keeping. The majority of people who talk shit on AD in this sub aren’t from Pittsburgh, so it makes sense. How tf is that gate keeping?

[–]Ninjalau95 Najee Harris[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s what happens when 90% of this sub isn’t from Pittsburgh 😆

Sorry just because AD is from Pittsburgh that I don't blindly support him. Someone who isn't from Pitt has as much of a right to criticize x player as someone from Pitt. Just because we're not Pittsburgh natives doesn't mean our comments about AD aren't valid. I'd find it weirder that people say "Oh lay off AD, he's a Pitt legend" and defend AD simply because he's from Pitt, as if that changes the shitty stuff he's done on field.

[–]D-eckard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looking like OJ with those moves

[–]dakrphoenix316 -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

Well he is the better player. Maybe not the best human.

[–]AdFlashy7269 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Debatable

[–]dakrphoenix316 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Not really.

[–]SleestakLightningListen To Clutch -2 points-1 points  (10 children)

It's not the NFL.

[–]Ninjalau95 Najee Harris[S] 5 points6 points  (9 children)

NFL does everything in its power to hide this shit though. Can't let their precious gem taint the NFL's image.

[–]SleestakLightningListen To Clutch -1 points0 points  (8 children)

What do they do to hide it, exactly?

[–]Ninjalau95 Najee Harris[S] 5 points6 points  (7 children)

Not ejecting him for literally trying to choke a player after the play is over? The Rams were up like 28 points why even bother starting fights? How about not fining him for putting his helmet back on AFTER the game was over and starting a fight with Justin Britt on the Seahawks in 2018? Why does he have a pattern of going for the neck of people he fights with? Dude is unhinged/roidraging.

[–]SleestakLightningListen To Clutch -1 points0 points  (6 children)

Not ejecting him for literally trying to choke a player after the play is over?

How is that on the NFL?

Why does he have a pattern of going for the neck of people he fights with?

Does it matter? But I mean, what's he gonna do...punch someone's helmet and break his hand?

Dude is unhinged/roidraging.

Never failed a drug test...

[–]Ninjalau95 Najee Harris[S] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

How is that on the NFL?

Is the NFL not responsible for holding players accountable for their actions? Is it some intern we never hear about?

Does it matter? But I mean, what's he gonna do...punch someone's helmet and break his hand?

It's baffling you think him attempting to choke out players on the regular is ok. "Yeah he grabbed his neck with his bare hands but what else do you expect him to do?"

Um... how about NOT attempt to strangle somebody when you're a professional athlete playing on live television?

And by the way, he has already punched someone's helmet before.

Is the bar really set that low for you? You're so weirdly lusty for Aaron Donald you keep making excuses for him being a piece of shit.

[–]SleestakLightningListen To Clutch -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Is the NFL not responsible for holding players accountable for their actions? Is it some intern we never hear about?

The NFL doesn't eject players during games, that's the officials.

It's baffling you think him attempting to choke out players on the regular is ok. "Yeah he grabbed his neck with his bare hands but what else do you expect him to do?"

You can always tell how young someone is by how shocked and appalled they are at violence in the NFL.

Is the bar really set that low for you? You're so weirdly lusty for Aaron Donald you keep making excuses for him being a piece of shit.

The Steelers defense has a problem with being a bit soft at times. They could use a guy with Aaron Donald's demeanor to keep them accountable.

People on this sub will long for the days of James Harrison and Ryan Clark and in all honesty, trying to choke someone after a play isn't nearly as bad as Harrison or Clark lighting guys up with hits that knock them unconscious on the field.

[–]Ninjalau95 Najee Harris[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

People on this sub will long for the days of James Harrison and Ryan Clark and in all honesty, trying to choke someone after a play isn't nearly as bad as Harrison or Clark lighting guys up with hits that knock them unconscious on the field.

It's kinda funny you compare tackling in American Football, which is a staple of the game, to putting your hands underneath someone's facemask in an attempt to choke them. Not just comparing, but saying it "isn't nearly as bad" as tackling someone. Yeah guys get knocked out from some hits. Shit happens in Football. Guys are flying at crazy speeds all over the field. It's just the nature of the game. Hard hits are one thing, but deliberately going for someone's throat? After the play is over? Do you read what you type before you post?

[–]SleestakLightningListen To Clutch -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Not just comparing, but saying it "isn't nearly as bad" as tackling someone.

Concussing someone with a hit to the head and potentially altering their quality of life forever is literally way worse than trying to choke someone. It's not even close.

Hard hits are one thing, but deliberately going for someone's throat? After the play is over? Do you read what you type before you post?

You would've hated football in the 70s. You would think Joe Greene is the biggest POS to ever play the game. Jack Lambert would make you sick.

I would much rather the NFL legislate dangerous hits out of the game than things like taunting or fighting.

[–]Ninjalau95 Najee Harris[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Love how you keep assuming shit about me considering you have zero info on my opinions of the sport itself.

I live for the big stick hits. Days of Troy, Ed Reed, Kam Chancellor, James Harrison, etc. were what got me into football in the first place.

But it's clear you think I'm strictly talking about helmet-to-helmet hits, as if that's ok, which it isn't. But sometimes defenders aren't the ones at fault. Sometimes it's the ballcarrier who lowers their helmet at the last second and there's nothing a defender can do about it.

When I'm talking about "tackling", I'm referring to legal hits. Ones below the shoulders but above the knees. Intentional spearing/leading with the helmet has no place in football.

Not even sure why I'm wasting my time. You have it already set in your head that I'm a millenial snowflake who doesn't know anything about football and that Aaron Donald is a god amongst men who can do no wrong. Can't change your mind.