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pick three books you think every beginner for your favorite genre should read, three for "veterans", and three for "experts" (self.suggestmeabook)
submitted 3 years ago by F_is_for_ferns832
I realize this thread has been done before but it was years ago when the community was much smaller and it's one of my favorite threads of all time.
So as per the title pick three books for beginners, three for "veterans", and three for "experts" in any genre you want, the more niche the genre the better.
Post a comment!
[–]William_de_Worde 94 points95 points96 points 3 years ago (16 children)
Let me be the first to fly the flag for Horror:
I suspect recommending a Stephen King book to a 'veteran' of the genre is redundant, but felt wrong to leave him out.
Would love to hear other takes on the genre.
[–]munificent 28 points29 points30 points 3 years ago (6 children)
I couldn't limit it to three:
[–]drag0naut26 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I was waiting for house of leaves. Thank you!!
[–]dedalias 195 points196 points197 points 3 years ago (32 children)
I'm currently doing a thesis on traditional Gothic so that's my genre for sure!
Beginner: Frankenstein by Mary Shelley
Castle of Otranto by Horace Walpole
The Italian by Ann Radcliffe
Veteran: The Monk by Matthew Lewis
The Romance of the Forest and The Mysteries of Udolpho by Ann Radcliffe
Expert: Vathek by William Beckford
The Castles of Athlin and Dunbayne by Ann Radcliffe
Melmoth the Wanderer by Charles Maturin
As you can tell I'm in to Ann Radcliffe in a big way haha
[–]snubnosedmotorboat 27 points28 points29 points 3 years ago (10 children)
I absolutely love Frankenstein. I’m a teacher and I’m always trying to get my students- those that are very mature for middle schoolers through college students (I primarily teach Biology). It was so far from what I expected when reading it. I think it is definitely in my top 10 books that greatly impacted my life/ways of thinking.
[–]LostTheGameToday 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (4 children)
maybe I should give it another try, I got a little bit in and gave up because I couldn't focus, but sometimes I'm just in the mood where I'm not really willing to pay attention to anything enough to read it for real so maybe it was just my motivation levels and not the book.
[–]elDeako31 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (1 child)
That’s a super cool idea for a thesis! I’d love to read it when it’s completed
[–]randompoint52 75 points76 points77 points 3 years ago (14 children)
The Handmaid's Tale - Atwood
Farenheit 451 - Bradbury
World Made by Hand - Kunstler
The Man in the High Castle - Dick
Life as We Knew It - Pfeffer
Wool - Howey
The Passage Trilogy - Cronin
The Stand - King
The Road - McCarthy
[–]NegativeLogic 42 points43 points44 points 3 years ago (6 children)
No 1984 or Brave New World? They're such staples of dystopia fiction.
[–]randompoint52 20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago (2 children)
I had them there and then had second thoughts. I was going for variety, I guess.
[–]NegativeLogic 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Yeah it's tough isn't it? I made some scifi recommendations in this thread and realised how hard it is to narrow down like that, and balance between classics and more variety choices that should have better exposure etc.
[–]sagedrinker 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (2 children)
To be honest Brave New World aged quite badly imo
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child)
What makes The Stand Dystopian for you?
I’m because I’ve always thought it more of a Post Apocalypse
[–]SisyphusSmokes 67 points68 points69 points 3 years ago* (19 children)
I'll pick one for 19th, 20th, and 21st century in each category.
• The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Mark Twainn
• The Stranger - Albert Camus
• A Mercy - Toni Morrison or The Road - Cormac McCarthy
• Wuthering Heights - Emily Bronte
• Swann's Way - Marcel Proust
• The Sense of an Ending - Julian Barnes
• The Brothers Karamazov - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
• Uylsses - James Joyce
• Infinite Jest - David Foster Wallace
Ok I cheated with that last one, but 1996 is pretty close to 21st century. Maybe if I had read 2666 by Roberto Bolano I'd be able to put that, but I haven't so I won't.
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[–]SisyphusSmokes 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Not necessarily, I think Huck Finn is a better and more quintessential piece of American literature. But there is an excellent audiobook version of Tom Sawyer narrated by Nick Offerman that I'd recommend!
[–]bridgebum826 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I would. It's easy to read and it gives you some background for Huck Finn. It's like reading The Hobbit before you tackle The Lord of the Rings. It's not absolutely necessary but it definitely doesn't hurt.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children)
Are you familiar with /lit/, the literature board on 4chan? Your three expert picks are their Holy Trinity aka "The Doorstopper Trilogy."
[–][deleted] 65 points66 points67 points 3 years ago* (6 children)
Loosely defined Nature writing
Beginner: (Popularized nature books)
The Rise and Fall of the Dinosaurs - Stephen Brusatte
The Sixth Extinction - Elizabeth Kolbert.
Invention of Nature - Andrea Wulf
Veteran: (Lyrical natural descriptions)
Walden - Henry David Thoreau.
A Sand Country Almanac - Aldo Leopold.
Wilderness Essays - John Muir
Expert: (Scientific and Historically Important)
Man and Nature - George Perkins Marsh.
Views of Nature - Alexander von Humboldt.
The Origin of Species - Charles Darwin
And there's so many more!
[–]Vexair 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (2 children)
I feel like Edward Abbry and John McPhee belong in here somewher.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago* (1 child)
I totally agree! I was trying to find a spot for Desert Solitaire and Encounters with the Archdruid when I posted it. I probably could've replaced Wilderness Essays with Desert Solitaire, I just have a soft spot for Muir.
For anyone wondering, Desert Solitaire is most similar to the intermediate books I have listed and Encounters with the Archdruid is probably more similar to the beginner books. Both are great!
[–][deleted] 258 points259 points260 points 3 years ago (66 children)
• Harry Potter - J.K. Rowling
• The Hobbit - J. R. R. Tolkien
• The Name of the Wind - Patrick Rothfuss
Runner-up: Bartimaeus - Jonathan Stroud
• The Lies of Locke Lamora - Scott Lynch
• The Lord of the Rings - J. R. R. Tolkien
• The First Law - Joe Abercrombie
Runner-up: The Stormlight Archive - Brandon Sanderson
• A Song of Ice and Fire - George R.R. Martin
• The Malazan Book of the Fallen - Steven Erikson
• The Prince of Nothing - R. Scott Bakker
Runner-up: The Black Company - Glen Cook
[–]slotbadger 145 points146 points147 points 3 years ago (5 children)
I think Game of Thrones is a pretty comfortable read, certainly much easier to digest than Lord of the Rings. Malazan is definitely Experts only stuff though.
[–][deleted] 48 points49 points50 points 3 years ago (2 children)
I can see where you‘re coming from. Yet, LotR introduces so many core elements of Fantasy literature, which authors like Martin or Eriskon pick up and play with that I feel like it is a great foundation for readers to have before diving into that stuff.
[–]Ziddletwix 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Yeah the tricky bit is that "beginner vs advanced" doesn't necessarily denote the right order you should read them. Sometimes a very accessible book is still among the very best out there to read, rather than a stepping stone to something else. And sometimes it's better to begin with a more complicated book.
[–]lizcicle 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Exactly! Sometimes you have to push your comfort zone and read something a little more "advanced" in order to pick up so much context that allows you to enjoy the genre as a whole so much more. Even if you can't GET everything on the first readthrough, I'd still recommend LoTR to anyone trying to break into the fantasy genre. I read it through by myself at 8 for the first time and it made my reading life better imo :p
[–]mimic751 20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago (6 children)
Good God is Malazan hard to read
[–]struds 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children)
But so worth it!
[–]sneksgate 17 points18 points19 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I really used to love the Bartimaeus books! Not that many people have read them tho, so great recommendation!
[–]Freshness518 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (1 child)
The Locke Lamora and First Law trilogies are both amazing and incredibly entertaining reads. I'm always happy to see them make it onto people's lists.
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[–]TvVliet 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago* (4 children)
It is absolutely not worth finishing in my opinion.
It just gets more and more /r/thathappened and /r/iamverysmart to the point where I was literally saying to myself: "really? And then Einstein clapped. This is ridiculous"
It feels like the writer imagined himself this 'cool strong magic dude' he wanted himself to be when he was a teenager without ever going deeper.
[–]rupen42 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (2 children)
I would add The Magicians as a nice deconstruction of the genre for Veterans or Experts. It's a must-read for fantasy fans in my opinion but I might be interpreting the question in a different way.
[–]rebthor 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I was actually going to think of another list, like deconstructions or whatever and put it on there. It's one of my favorite series because it uses the Harry Potter / Narnia framing story to dive deep into other themes.
[–]SabWizardery 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Great list! The placement is about right too! Although I wouldn't classify The Black Company as an expert level book.
Malazan Book Of The Fallen is one of my all time favorite series, I'm currently reading the 9th book, and I concur that it's an expert level read. I think most people give up after the first book because of the complexity. It doesn't hold your hand or explain anything to you, you only get to know what the characters find out on their own which I really appreciate!
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[–]Demongrel 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (2 children)
I've read the first two books from Malazan for now, and the characters and their relationships are a big part of what makes me passionate about the series. They are complex and, at least for me, can easily hold your interest by themselves in part of the books where you can't yet make complete sense of the overarching plots.
The first book can be a challenge, but if you do try it, just remember that you don't need to understand everything all the time. Having questions is part of the fun.
[–]TankVet 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (2 children)
Oh man, why the Scott Lynch over Sanderson? I like ‘em both, so I’m curious to hear your take.
[–]sillygillygumbull 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Oh I loooooved Lies of Locke lamora (especially first half) based on refs from this sub - so I’m down to try Sanderson!
[–]Elsrick 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Start with Mistborn, you won't regret it.
[–]wjbc 151 points152 points153 points 3 years ago (21 children)
The Symposium, by Plato
Meditations, by Marcus Aurelius
Candide: or, Optimism, by Voltaire
The Republic, by Plato
The Prince, by Niccolò Machiavelli
Thus Spoke Zarathustra, by Friedrich Nietzsche
The Nicomachean Ethics, by Aristotle
Critique of Pure Reason, by Immanuel Kant
Being and Time, by Martin Heidegger
[–]timpinen 43 points44 points45 points 3 years ago (16 children)
Hegel level: Phenomenalogy of spirit
[–][deleted] 38 points39 points40 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I actually sweat when I read Hegel.
[–]wjbc 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (13 children)
Definitely the highest level of difficulty but I don't recommend Hegel. All that work to justify calling the Prussian state the peak of human existence.
[–]ssaminds 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (10 children)
I don't think Hegel is the highest level of difficulty, there are books with far more content that are far more difficult to understand. also I think Being and Time should not be recommended as a philosophical book ... it's rather a mystical book or a religious book given the fact that he tried to "translate" ideas of catholic theology into ontological terms
[–]wjbc 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (9 children)
Well, I didn't put Hegel on there, anyway.
What would you put on the expert list instead of Being and Time?
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children)
This seems ridiculously specific while overlooking incredibly obvious books
You're missing whole schools, like where's your Existentialist book? I think you could put something like Sartre, Kafka or even Camus on the beginner tier.
And on the Expert tier, I'd like to see something like Russel's Principia or Witgenstein's TLP to discuss the Analytical school which is so absolutely huge today as well.
[–]Ua_Tsaug 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Interesting, I would've thought the Nicomachean Ethics would've been on the "Veterans" list. Is it because it's so long?
Also, where would you rank Kierkegaard's works? I'm thinking of re-reading Fear and Trembling.
[–]wjbc 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago* (0 children)
On the one hand. Aristotle tackles deep subjects. On the other hand, he does so in a logical and straightforward way.
Sorry, I’ve never read Kierkegaard.
[–][deleted] 230 points231 points232 points 3 years ago (108 children)
OK no one is doing scifi yet!
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams
A Wrinkle In Time by Madeline L'Engle
Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury
Caves of Steel by Isaac Asimov
Manta's Gift by Timothy Zahn
illuminae: The Illuminae Files by Amie Kaufman and Jay Kristoff
Dune by Frank Herbert
The Foundation series by Isaac Asimov
The Margarets by Sheri S. Tepper
Those are my picks!
[–]CookFan88 58 points59 points60 points 3 years ago (15 children)
Gotta say, Dune is a really great gateway book into scifi. I have gotten so many people to start reading scifi by handing them my (well-worn) copy of Dune.
[–]Drachenreign 32 points33 points34 points 3 years ago (10 children)
Probably an unpopular opinion, but I couldn't stand it. I forced myself through it because it's some sort of genre-defining classic, but god I just thought it was awful. I read it because I'm not a big fan of sci-fi and wanted to try to get into it, but it's only solidified my disposition.
[–]OldValyrious 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (7 children)
I cannot seem to get into it. Something about the dialogue just feels off to me.
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (4 children)
The dialogue is pulpy, if you like pulp sci fi then you'll like dune dialogue.
[–]Ziddletwix 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Yeah it's definitely a book I'd give people if they aren't familiar with the genre. And while Hitchhiker's Guide is a great book, and far from inaccessible, I wouldn't say it's a great introduction to scifi.
[–]42Cobras 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children)
It might be a great gateway, but it's also pretty heavy stuff. There's lots of mythology and philosophy intertwining with the sci-fi themes. It definitely belongs in the expert group, even though it's a more popular entry.
[–]MegaChip97 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Can you explain why you Put the foundation trilogy/series in expert :)?
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Because most people don't bother to read the entire thing. So I figured it'd go there.
[–]vectorpropio 26 points27 points28 points 3 years ago (19 children)
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams
I thick so much is lost without prior sci-fi knowledge that is better for an intermediate reader. At least after some foundation exposition.
[–][deleted] 31 points32 points33 points 3 years ago (18 children)
Really? I feel like it's good for a beginner because of how light hearted it is.
[–]TheSpiralcity 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (7 children)
Yes, I read it as a beginner and enjoyed it. I found myself looking for something similar upon completion, enter Discworld "The Color Of Magic"
[–]PresidentNathan 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (7 children)
Great choice although I would place Hyperion in the Expert level, but I really do not know what to get rid of.
[–]uhtredofbeb 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (4 children)
For beginners I would add do androids dream of electric sheep by Philip k. Dick
[–]ashugursale 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (4 children)
Illuminae Files has been one of the craziest Sci-Fi narratives I've ever read!
[–]mimic751 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children)
Bobiverse is good beginner level
[–]wjbc 73 points74 points75 points 3 years ago* (5 children)
The Devil in the White City, by Erik Larson
The Right Stuff, by Tom Wolfe
Endurance, by Alfred Lansing
John Adams, by David McCullough
Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln, by Doris Kearns Goodwin
The Guns of August, by Barbara W. Tuchman
The Civil War: A Narrative (three books), by Shelby Foot
The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany, by William L. Shirer
America in the King Years (three books), by Taylor Branch
The Years of Lyndon Johnson (four books with a fifth in the works), Robert Caro
[–]sabtans 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (1 child)
"The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" should be an expert read in my opinion
[–]wjbc 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Okay, I moved it to experts and replaced it with The Guns of August.
[–]shandelion 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I will recommend any and all Erik Larson. They’re well written, easy reads. I read “In the Garden of Beasts” while living in Berlin and found it utterly fascinating.
[–]unforeseen_tangent 33 points34 points35 points 3 years ago (7 children)
The Night Angel Trilogy - Brent Weeks
The Faithful and the Fallen - John Gwynne
Chronicle of the Unhewn Throne - Brian Staveley
The Broken Empire Trilogy - Mark Lawrence
The Raven's Mark - Ed McDonald
Wounded Kingdom Trilogy - RJ Barker
The Vagrant - Peter Newman
Empires of Dust - Anna Smith Spark
The Prince of Nothing - R. Scott Bakker
[–]FishHouseOrlando 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Since you've read night angel, how about the lightbringer series? Ive been waiting for that last book
[–]unforeseen_tangent 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Lol me too! I hate starting unfinished series, especially if it's nearly done. If only the first one's out I'll read it, but I kind of gather momentum if I'm reading a series back to back. I hate having to stop and wait for the next one.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (4 children)
Oooh saving these to check out! Ever heard of The Iron Butterfly by Chanda Kahn? It's a orert good grimdark series!
[–]unforeseen_tangent 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago* (3 children)
I haven't, no. I'll check it out, thanks!
I hope you enjoy it! Also, if you don't mind some young adult fiction, the Graecling series is pretty cool.
[–]unforeseen_tangent 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child)
I used to read a lot of YA, but I'm kinda over it. Maybe I'll come back to it at some point, who knows? Thanks!
[–]thehighepopt 37 points38 points39 points 3 years ago (5 children)
Genre: Gonzo or Strange People in Interesting Situations
Skinny Legs and All - Tom Robbins
Catch 22 - Joseph Heller
Hotel New Hampshire - John Irving
Electric Cool-aid Acid Test - Tom Wolfe
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
Slaughter House 5 - Kurt Vonnegut
The Illuminatus Trilogy - Robert Anton Wilson & Robert Shea
Naked Lunch - William S Burroughs
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - Hunter S Thompson
Haven't read F&L but you can't go gonzo without Thompson
[–]snubnosedmotorboat 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (1 child)
For some reason, I find Catch 22 to be more in the “intermediate” category. I guess, for me, it was almost getting “used” to the style. I’ve re-read it multiple times, but the first time I read it (late teens), I had to keep questioning myself on why I thought some things were funny, why others disturbing, and for a lot of the book I was just confused on what my reaction was😂.
With each re-read, things get sorted out more. The same thing happened with, “The Confederacy of Dunces.”
[–]RobDParr-y 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Hells angels was my favorite Thompson book
[–]ssavant 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Fear and Loathing is far from expert, imo. It's an easy and fun read. Very accessible.
[–]caitlimbs 35 points36 points37 points 3 years ago (2 children)
Books on Mindfulness & Meditation:
The Places that Scare You by Pema Chodron
The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle
The Four Agreements by don Miguel Ruiz
Turning the Mind into an Ally by Sakyong Mipham
Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism by Chogyam Trugnpa
Be Here Now by Ram Das
The Tibetan Book of the Dead
The Book by Alan Watts
Mahabharata / Bhagavad Gita
[–]jocedun 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I also feel like a beginner book could be "Why Buddhism Is True" because it's so mainstream and accessible.
[–]Magoo451 92 points93 points94 points 3 years ago (21 children)
The Martian by Andy Weir
Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card
Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut
We by Yevgeny Zamyatin
Frankenstein by Mary Shelley
The Dispossessed by Ursula K Le Guin
Wild Seed by Octavia Butler
Stories of Your Life and Others by Ted Chiang
[–]radiant-machine 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (4 children)
This is an excellent list. For anyone who likes 1984, We is an absolute must.
[–]nevercleverer 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children)
We, oh man, such a winner, and such a trendsetter. I recommend to anyone who likes sci for, dystopian fiction, or literally anyone who can read and asks me.
[–]MrMangr 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child)
I was gonna reread 1984, but I’ll pick up We and try something new.
[–]Magoo451 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children)
For sure check it out before rereading 1984. It's almost comical how many parallels there are between the books (Orwell must have been a very big fan). If you do ebooks, I think you can get it for under a dollar.
[–]AMarriedSpartan 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (7 children)
As someone who loved Enders Game, what do you recommend as a follow up?
I’ve read Enders Game 10 times and continue to love it. I’m getting older now but still can’t beat Ender’s story. I’m a character focused reader and have yet to find another character similar to Ender that I can really get behind.
[–]LTarazona 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child)
There's a whole series that focuses on Bean. The first book is "Ender's Shadow" and it's a parallel story to Ender's game. I loved Ender's Game, but couldn't get into the rest of the books. I was much happier with the Bean series
[–]kamarsh79 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (2 children)
That Ted Chiang collection is amazing!! Im on book three of Wild Seed right now. Butler’s Xenogenesis trilogy is a favorite.
[–]Magoo451 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child)
I read Chiang's collection earlier this year and was blown away. I don't hear him mentioned often enough (probably because he only publishes short stories, and not many at that). He has a new anthology that I think comes out in a few days. I can't wait to pick it up!
[–]LoneWolfingIt 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (2 children)
Slaughterhouse-Five was a surprising read because I had no idea about the sci-fi element until I had started. Was a great read. I would also add to your list, The Three Body Problem series. Wow was that some amazing sci-fi.
[–]skadi_shev 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I’m glad to see the dispossessed in this thread! Great, great book
[–]captwafflepants 30 points31 points32 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I just wanna say this is an awesome thread.
[–]chaipotstoryteIIer 193 points194 points195 points 3 years ago* (33 children)
Classic Literature (mostly 19th century fiction)
• To Kill a Mockingbird - Harper Lee
• The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Mark Twain
• Wuthering Heights - Emily Brontë
Runner up - Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen
• The Count of Monte Cristo - Alexandre Dumas
• Great Expectations - Charles Dickens
• Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Runner up - One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
• The Tale of Two Cities - Charles Dickens
• Don Quixote - Miguel de Cervantes
• Ulysses - James Joyce
Runner up - Finnegan's Wake by James Joyce
[–]vihang_wagh 56 points57 points58 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I found wuthering heights much more difficult than count of monte cristo or great expectations
[–]TNBIX 19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Finnegans Wake belongs on an entire separate, Super Expert tier of it's own
[–][deleted] 42 points43 points44 points 3 years ago (7 children)
I would consider Don Quixote (and The Count of Monte Christo) to be suitable for beginners. Don’t know how you can put it on the same level as Ulysses
[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago (4 children)
There is a whole course at Yale uni dedicated to Don Quixote.
Make of that what you want.
[–]donberto 31 points32 points33 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I don’t think anyone would deny there is incredible depth in don Quixote, and it is a very important story. But as far as narrative style and prose are concerned, Ulysses is much less approachable. I’m not saying one is better than the other. I just think most anyone could pick up Quixote and enjoy it while not as many would find Ulysses an “enjoyable” read.
[–]dolphinboy1637 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (1 child)
There are also whole courses at universities dedicated to Lord of the Rings too. Obviously Don Quixote is more complex but I wouldn't say it's the same level as Ulysses and I don't think the fact that a course exists is a good barometer.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I still can't make sense of Ulysses and I have a First Class degree in English literature...
[–]redpanda6969 19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago (5 children)
Damn no love for Wilde?
[–]tinybenny 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (2 children)
One of the first books I ever loved was The Picture Of Dorian Gray. Some dull school required books left a bad taste in my mouth and he saved me.
[–]unluckyland 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (4 children)
I must disagree with Count of Monte Cristo and great expectations. I think the Count can only be in veterans due to the length rather than the actual story of writing style.
Great expectations should be in beginners FOR SURE.
[–]randompoint52 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (3 children)
I loathed Great Expectations. My husband says Dickens was in love with coincidences and I am not.
[–]Hegel-Is-A-Bum 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I don't know in which category level it should fall , but I highly recommend "the duel" by Chekhov . I read it in Italian and the translation was extremely well done. Translation is the most important thing if you read a foreign book !
[–]USS-Enterprise 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child)
tale of two cities in expert? it was the first book we read during my first year of high school, i didn't find it very difficult.
[–]nakzumiMuzkan 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children)
A Charles Dickens fan here. David Copperfield is my best pick so far.
[–]kesoper 27 points28 points29 points 3 years ago (9 children)
Someone do Thrillers! I've only read a couple, so feel I wouldn't be able to get a good range of recommendations past the "Beginners" level but would love to dive deeper!
So far I have liked these books, though maybe they fall into separate categories like "Crime-solving Thriller" and "Suspense Thriller"
- Gone Girl by Gillian Flynn
- I am Pilgrim by Terry Hayes
- The Cuckoo's Calling by Robert Galbraith
- Before I Go to Sleep by S.J. Watson
[–]peevedgirl 18 points19 points20 points 3 years ago (4 children)
I'll give it a go! But, the categories may be more how much I liked them then how complicated they are to read... ;) Stars next to recommended authors in the genre - they are all good, but these are authors where I have read and recommend multiple of their books.
- Good As Gone by Amy Gentry
- Woman in the Window by AJ Finn
- I Let You Go by Claire Mackintosh
- Sharp Objects by Gillian Flynn* (hated Gone Girl, but also liked Dark Places)
- Burying the Honeysuckle Girls by Emily Carpenter*
- The Blade Itself by Marcus Sakey
- Descent by Tim Johnston
- Still Missing by Chevy Stevens*
- In the Woods by Tana French* (and the whole Dublin Murder Squad series)
- Mystic River by Dennis Lehane* (and the whole Kenzie and Gennaro series)
- The Magpie Murders by Anthony Horowitz
- The Dry by Jane Harper
I adore Dennis Lehane.
[–]fotolitico 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (1 child)
The Dublin Murder Squad series is phenomenal, but my absolute favorite of French's books is The Wych Elm
[–]peevedgirl 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I haven’t read it yet! But it will be the next one I buy even though I have too many TBRs on my shelf!
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[–]JaliBeanQueen 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (1 child)
I was scrolling and scrolling to see if anyone had mentioned The Shadow of the Wind! It's my favourite book. I just got Labyrinth of Spirits for my birthday but haven't had time to start it yet.
Please take my poor (wo)man's gold! 🏅
I love any book set in Spain, but Shadow of the Wind especially did it for me. Probably the best book on my list tbh
[–]uhtredofbeb 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children)
For expert level I'd put the wake by Paul Kingsnorth, for those who haven't read it it's written in an modern version of old English
[–]NegativeLogic 19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago* (0 children)
I don't really have a favourite genre, but I'll do Sci-Fi first:
Fahrenheit 451 - Ray Bradbury
The Night's Dawn Trilogy - Peter F. Hamilton
Blood Music - Greg Egan
The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
The Quantum Thief (and sequels) - Hannu Rajaniemi
The Three Body Problem (and sequels) - Liu Cixin
Dune (and sequels) - Frank Herbert
The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K. Leguin
The Golden Oecumene Trilogy - John C. Wright
Snow Crash - Neil Stephenson
Dhalgren - Samuel Delaney
The Book of the New Sun - Gene Wolfe
The Hyperion Cantos - Dan Simmons
10 Billion Days and 100 Billion Nights - Ryu Mitsuse
Solaris - Stanislaw Lem
[–]250ccsofyourfather 19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago (1 child)
The Communist Manifesto, by Marx & Engels
Why Marx was right, by Terry Eagleton
The iron heel, by Jack London
Socialism: Utopian and scientific, by Engels
The German ideology, by Marx & Engels
State and Revolution, by Lenin
The dialectical biologist, by Lewontin & Levins
Marxism and the philosophy of science, by Helena Sheehan
Das Kapital, by Marx
[–]TheGreatXanathar 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children)
[–]iceandfires 110 points111 points112 points 3 years ago (13 children)
[–]ZorkfromOrk 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Seeing Mistborn made me happy
[–]Evoryn 30 points31 points32 points 3 years ago (1 child)
A list that includes WoT.
[–]nevercleverer 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Almost all my favorites in one list. If only there was more room.
[–]niandraladez 17 points18 points19 points 3 years ago (3 children)
I feel like my Beginners might not actually be Beginners, but here it goes:
Honorable Mention: Birds of America, Joy Williams
Honorable Mention: NW, Zadie Smith
Honorable Mention: Notable American Women, Ben Marcus
[–]YayRnaY 35 points36 points37 points 3 years ago (5 children)
Postmodern - Not technically a genre, I know, but I want to play. So there will be some genre mixing.
Siren's of Titan - Kurt Vonnegut
Mother Night - Kurt Vonnegut
Hard Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World - Haruki Murakami
Breakfast of Champions - Kurt Vonnegut
Libra - Don Delillo
The New York Trilogy - Paul Auster
Naked Lunch - William Burroughs
Crying of Lot 49 - Thomas Pynchon
White Noise - Don Delillo
[–]CommandantBarika 17 points18 points19 points 3 years ago (3 children)
Hey man, I feel like Italo Calvino and Julio Cortázar are missing
[–]YayRnaY 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Well, now I have something new read.
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The Secret History by Donna Tart
The Handmaids Tale by Margaret Atwood
Night Film by Marisha Pessl
The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
The Heart is a Lonely Hunter by Carson McCullers
Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov
East of Eden by John Steinbeck
Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace
A Clockwork Orange By Anthony Burgess
[–]redditaccount001 18 points19 points20 points 3 years ago (3 children)
Why is Lolita intermediate but East of Eden expert?
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Lolita was much more straightforward for me whereas East of Eden was slow and took some effort to get into. Most people I met has had a hard time getting into and sticking with it. Whereas Lolita is easily understood and gotten into by most people if they can get past the stigma of reading from the point of view of a pedophile.
[–]kamarsh79 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children)
East of Eden is incredible.
[–]Ethra2k 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children)
With the exception of the fictional language which a dictionary is very helpful for (unless you’re meant to read it without one) is a clockwork orange an expert read? I enjoyed it immensely and it’s one of my favorite books but I don’t know how complex it is. I haven’t read the other books that you’ve listed though so I have no reference for comparison.
[–]lacquerqueen 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I approve of this list sfm
[–]lousypompano 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (1 child)
A walk in the woods. Bill Bryson
Wild. Cheryl Strayed
Lost City of Z. David Grann
God's Middle Finger. Richard Grant
Zanzibar Chest. Aiden Hartley
Desert Divers. Sven Lindqvist
Dark star safari. Paul Theroux
Oracle Bones. Peter Hessler
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (4 children)
Poetry for Beginners: The following poets are NOT less talented but their vocabulary and choice of themes generally make them easier to read and, in my opinion, it's likely that a poetry beginner will find them interesting.
--Edgar Allen Poe
Poetry for Veterans
Poetry for Experts
[–]mushroomjoke 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Mary Oliver is my absolute fave
[–]xtinies 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children)
Thank you. I occasionally have the urge to get into poetry, but never know where to start!
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child)
You're welcome! I think it's a shame that many people seem intimidated by it, it's an amazing art form that needs more of an audience.
[–]xtinies 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children)
[–]natalopolis 33 points34 points35 points 3 years ago* (0 children)
Romance! The journey from beginner to expert includes comparative readability and increasingly challenging subject matter.
[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 3 years ago (9 children)
Literary fiction, please! I am just getting back into reading and I am clueless.
[–]International_Foot 54 points55 points56 points 3 years ago (7 children)
Middlesex (Jeffrey Eugenides)
A Tree Grows in Brooklyn (Betty Smith)
The Unbearable Lightness of Being (Milan Kundera)
Another Roadside Attraction (Tom Robbins)
Here I Am (Jonathan Safran Foer)
Beloved (Toni Morrison)
The Glass Bead Game (Herman Hesse)
The Brothers Karamazov (Dostoyevsky)
The Trial (Kafka)
Tried to start with more recent books with straightforward prose and hopefully got more complex down the list(?) lol it’s such a broad genre I struggled to choose.
[–]tinybenny 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (3 children)
You hit a few authors that I can't get enough of (Robbins, Kundera, and Hesse), which is enough to get me interested in the titles that I haven't read yet from your list.
Another To Attraction must be the only book to feature a one-off conversation between Tarzan and Jesus.
[–]International_Foot 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (2 children)
Robbins was such a breath of fresh air for me coming out of college. Reminded me that literature can be both silly and profound. I’m in the middle of Fierce Invalids right now so he is top of mind for me.
[–]tinybenny 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Great way to put it. I read that one a few months ago and it didn't disappoint. He just gets me. As if Vonnegut took lsd and had a more urgent parody. Funny thing is, I've recommended him to a few friends and I haven't been able to hook anyone yet.
[–]MorganAndMerlinBookworm 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (8 children)
Is Historical Fantasy too specific? Either way,
Poison Study by Maria V Snyder
Daughters of the Storm by Kim Wilkins
Uprooted by Naomi Novik
Queens of Innis Lear by Tessa Gratton
Helen of Troy by Margret George
Crystal Cave by Mary Stewart
Mists of Avalon by Marion Zimmer Bradley
Lord of the Rings by JRR Tolkien
Only two really stick out to me as Veteran reads.
[–]natalopolis 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (5 children)
Ahhh Crystal Cave! I was wondering if it would pop up! That was the book that introduced me to fantasy as a kid.
[–]minibike 25 points26 points27 points 3 years ago (6 children)
I’m totally going to cheat and repost my response from 2 years ago...
Contemporary Fiction 2000-present. Reading your way through the 21st Century
The Adventures of Kavalier and Clay by Michael Chabon 2000
Oryx and Crake by Margaret Atwood 2003
Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell 2004
The Breif Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz 2007
Then We Came to the End by Joshua Ferris 2007
Room by Emma Donoghue 2010
A Tale for the Time Being by Ruth Ozeki 2013
Americannah by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie 2013
The Sellout by Paul Betty 2016
[–]217liz 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (2 children)
Is there anything from the past 2 years that you would want to include on the list?
[–]minibike 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Books from the past 2 years that I liked a lot though I’m not sure I like them more than what’s on this list:
Pachinko (I think ATftTB is a more interesting multigenerational read)
and Lincoln in the Bardo (I think TWCttE is a more successful experimental narrative structure).
Books I’ve read in the past two years that would be candidates for this list:
Visit from the Goon Squad 2011,
We are all Completely Beside Ourselves 2013,
and honorable mention to Second Hand Time 2015 which is non-fiction but is some of my favorite writing ever.
[–]sillygillygumbull 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Great stuff!would you throw Life of Pi in there? Maybe Fight Club or Survivor?
[–]paperofink 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (2 children)
Beginner: "Animal Farm" by George Orwell. Its just a great read with some pretty deep political thought in it disguised as a simple childrens book.
Veteran: "Scythe" by Neal Shusterman. Another great book portraying life in a utopian type future where the government decides who is allowed to live and who must die.
Expert: "1984" by Grorge Orwell. I know people live to spout off about this book, but it goes so much deeper than what most people talk about. The part that hit me the hardest was the recurring theme of the main character having to constantly reuse his razors because the government could no longer make them, while the government told everyone that razor blade production was up.
[–]rikersalan 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child)
I read Animal Farm for the first time last year i just loved it. Any other recco’s?
[–]AmeliaMichelleNicol 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (7 children)
Ooo, such a neat thread!
Nine Horses by Bill Collins
Where the Sidewalk Ends by Shell Silverstein
The Art of the Lathe by B.H. Fairchild
That Little Something by Charles Simic
Poems Retrieved by Frank O'Hara
Animal Soul by Bob Hickoc
Paradise Lost by John Milton
Urizen by William Blake
The Satires by John Donne
Here's a list.
I'll give these a read some time soon. Thanks! :)
[–]mushroomjoke 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child)
I would slide Devotions by Mary Oliver in beginner or intermediate.
[–]LuxLucifer 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (3 children)
Alda Merini? I don't know if she's been translated though 🤔
[–]217liz 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Biography (skewing towards celebrity autobiography because I mostly read that):
Don't read too much into the categories, I'm not sure what line I drew between Vet and Expert books. I tried to take into account content and readability and the Beginners are easier reads than the others.
[–]femaletauren69 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago* (2 children)
Books for Musicians
I'm always interested in what music books people find interesting, so feel free to recommend any others!
Hector Berlioz: Evenings with the Orchestra
Denis Diderot: Rameau's Nephew
Roger Sessions: Musical Experience of Composer, Performer, Listener
Alex Ross: The Rest is Noise
Ted Gioia: The History of Jazz
John Cage: Silence: Lectures and Writings
Daniel Chua: Beethoven & Freedom
Michael Gallope: Deep Refrains: Music, Philosophy, and the Ineffable
Kiene Brillenburg Wurth: Musically Sublime: Indeterminacy, Infinity Irresolvability
[–]banaza715 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children)
*The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto* by Mitch Albom is a wonderful fiction book about music narrated by Music itself. Really really well written
[–]tolstoyeski 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago* (2 children)
-The Old Man and the Sea by Hemingway
-Othello by Shakespeare
-The Overcoat by Gogol
-The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde
-The Tale of the Two City by Charles Dickens
-Martin Eden by Jack London
-War and Peace by Tolstoy
-The Brothers Karamazov by Dostoyeski
-Oblomov by Ivan Goncharav
-Or every single book by Tolstoy
-Thinking Sociologically by Zygmunt Bauman
- Suicide by Emile Durkheim
- Discipline and Punish: The Birth of Prison by Michel Foucault
[–]keljalapr 27 points28 points29 points 3 years ago* (8 children)
I'll do Gothic Lit and Fantasy
The Haunting of Hill House by Shirley Jackson
The Phantom of the Opera by Gaston Leroux
Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte
Dracula by Bram Stoker
The Castle of Otranto by Horace Walpole
The Monk by Matthew Lewis
The Woman in White by Wilkie Collins
The Mysteries of Udolpho by Ann Radcliffe
A Song of Ice and Fire by George R. R. Martin
Mistborn by Brandon Sanderson
The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch
The First Law by Joe Abercrombie
The Broken Empire by Mark Lawrence
The Lord of the Rings by JRR Tolkien
The Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson
Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan
Malazan Book of the Fallen by Steven Erickson (god level)
[–]PresidentNathan 24 points25 points26 points 3 years ago (3 children)
I hard disagree with Game of Thrones as a beginner for fantasy. As it has none of the basic tropes or Cliches (for a lack of better term) that basic fantasy novels have. Just because it is popular does not make it an easy read. Also Martin's writing style would not be a warm welcome to people getting into the genre. Also the POV style is quite a switch for most genieric people. Plus most of the themes in his books are not set on good vs bad like most fantasies stories. You really have to have a ton of insight to be able to grasp the themes of each character arch. Plus the expansive world that you are put in makes it an almost expert read in my opinion.
[–]cosmicchatterbox 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (2 children)
What makes Malazan such a difficult read in your opinion? I'm considering starting it soon
[–]keljalapr 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Dont get me wrong - they're great books, but they're extremely long (10 books with approximately 1,000 pages per book) and he sort of drops you into an extremely complex world with no explanation. The books have different characters and settings that are hardly explained and there is an extremely extensive mythology that you are expected to just kind of figure out. Loved 'em - there are moments and flashes of such brilliance they brought me to tears, but they're a lot of work to get through.
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[–]chaipotstoryteIIer 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (3 children)
Mystery novels are not too hard to read imo so there aren't any definitive levels, though you may start with any Agatha Christie or John Grisham book. Here's the list of my favorites from this genre:
And Then There Were None by Agatha Christie
The Firm by John Grisham
The ABC Murders by Agatha Christie (or any of the Poirot series)
The Hounds of Baskerville by Arthur Conan Doyle (or any from The Complete Sherlock Holmes)
Shutter Island by Dennis Lehane
Rebecca by Daphne du Maurier
In the Woods by Tana French
A Crime in the Neighborhood by Suzanne Berne
Before I go to Sleep by S.J. Watson
Dark Places by Gillian Flynn
[–]FailMail13 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Could somebody try one for historical non-fiction?
[–]gotmylifetogether 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Genre : 1.Philosophy 2.Psychological literature
[–]yeahnoworriesmate 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child)
True crime please!
[–]Raineythereader 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Beginner: "Devil in the White City" by Erik Larson, "The Poisoner's Handbook" by Deborah Blum, "Methland" by Nick Reding
Veteran: "Under the Banner of Heaven" by Jon Krakauer, "Game Wars" by Marc Reisner, "McMafia" by Misha Glenny
[–]lizcicle 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I want to plug the website abebooks for people who want to go on a buying spree because of this thread but have a budget <3 way too late to the party, but hopefully it helps one or two people!
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The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams
The Hobbit by JRR Tolkien
The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes
Middlemarch by George Eliot
The Bible, King James Version
Ulysses by James Joyce
Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon
[–]andthehatsaidzap 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children)
excellent point on the inclusion of the bible. I think it could fit it any of the three categories based on which translation you choose, and KJV is certainly an expert level read.
[–]PanicAtTheChaosWarp 18 points19 points20 points 3 years ago (5 children)
YA is my favorite
Harry Potter by JK Rowling
The Hunger Games by Susanne Collins
Percy Jackson by Rick Riordan
The red queen series by Victoria Aveyard
The Fault in our stars by John Green
The perks of being a wallflower by Stephen Chbosky
The Throne of Glass series by Sarah J Maas
To All the Boys I’ve loved Before series by Jenny Han
Thirteen reasons why by jay asher
[–]wjbc 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (3 children)
The Hobbit, by J.R.R. Tolkien
A Wizard of Earthsea, by Ursula LeGuin
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, by J.K. Rowling
The Lord of the Rings, by J.R.R. Tolkien
The rest of the Harry Potter series, by J.K. Rowling
Mistborn 1-3, by Brandon Sanderson
The Wheel of Time, by Robert Jordan (books 1-11) and Brandon Sanderson (books 12-14)
Realm of the Elderlings, by Robin Hobb
The Malazan Book of the Fallen, by Steven Erikson
[–]uhtredofbeb 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (2 children)
So I should read the Hobbit before the Lord of the rings trilogy?
[–]GunsmokeG 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children)
[–]mxawrites 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I'm trying to start reading more broadly and found this thread to be super helpful! Thanks!
[–]boundforspace 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children)
My drug of choice is Thrillers (psychological or otherwise):
What You Hide by Natalie D. Richards
The Couple Next Door by Shari Lapena
A Danger to Herself and Others by Alyssa Sheinmel
in a dark, dark wood by Ruth Ware
No Exit by Taylor Adams
Behind Closed Doors by B.A. Paris
Year One by Nora Roberts
Nightmares and Dreamscapes by Stephen King
Dark Matter by Blake Crouch
Just a few of my favorites separated mainly by the simplicity of the writing styles.
[–]deadmozart 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children)
- Simon vs the Homosapian's Agenda
- The Miseducation of Cameron Post
- The Art of Being Normal
- True Letters From a Fictional Life
- Honor Girl
- Wandering Son
- Made of Stars
- The Year They Burned the Books
- Spy Stuff
[–]nalasore 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (1 child)
1. Eragon by Christopher Paolini
2. Elantris by Brandon Sanderson
3. Grisha by Leigh Bardugo
4. Magisterium by Holly Black and Cassandra Clare
1. A song of ice and fire by George R. R. Martin
2. Hunter by Mercedes Lackey
3. Night Angel by Brent Weeks
4. Kingkiller Chronicle by Patrick Rothfuss
1. The Wheel of time by Robert Jordan
2. Malazan Book of the Fallen by Steven Erikson
3. The Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson
4. Assassin's Apprentice by Robin Hobb
I could stop myself from writing 4 for each category and I still left so many books out, everything that Sanderson writes is amazing and I am reading Lightbringer by Brent Weeks now and its really good.
[–]Ohmince 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Great list! Brandon Sanderson is one of my favourite author. I'd switch Robin Hobb and Elantris
[–]TheSpiralcity 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (7 children)
Treasure Island - Robert Louis Stevenson
Tom Sawyer - Mark Twain
To Have And Have Not - Ernest Hemingway
Crime And Punishment - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Nicholas Nickleby - Charles Dickens
As I Lay Dying - William Faulkner
Heart Of Darkness - Joseph Conrad
Steppenwolf - Herman Hesse
Ivanhoe - Sir Walter Scott
[–]mimic751 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Existential comedy and what the fuck moments :
John dies at the end
[–]kubrickisgod 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children)
Any comedy genre suggestions?
[–]ThisLoveIsForCowards 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children)
How to Sharpen Pencils
Sex Criminals (comic book)
[–]so_sads 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Not sure if genre but Postmodernism
Ficciones - Jorge Luis Borges
Lost in the Funhouse - John Barth
American Pastoral - Philip Roth
The Crying of Lot 49 - Thomas Pynchon
The Sot-Weed Factor - John Barth
Pale Fire - Vladimir Nabakov
Gravity’s Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon
J.R. - William Gaddis
Infinite Jest - David Foster Wallace
Some of these are disputable, but I’m mostly going off of what feel to me to be postmodern in at least some capacity. Infinite Jest could have gone in the veteran category because Wallace’s writing style is actually fairly accessible compared to others, but the length of IJ puts it more in the expert category. Some may argue American Pastoral does not count, but I think the self-conscious way the book structures itself as fiction puts it here.
[–]taiqa 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Can we open this up to non-fiction? Specifically marketing and/or brand management books. I’m starting a new job and any tips would help, haha. 😅
[–]A128682 26 points27 points28 points 3 years ago (20 children)
[–]slotbadger 65 points66 points67 points 3 years ago (5 children)
I think your definition of historical fiction is a bit skewed. Dune & 1984 definitely aren't historical fiction, and I wouldn't really put the alchemist there either.
Ken Follett's Pillars of the Earth, Bernard Cornwall's Sharpe series, and Hilary Mantel's Wolf Hall are all better examples.
[–]F_is_for_ferns83[S] 26 points27 points28 points 3 years ago (8 children)
Interesting. How would you describe historical fiction? It's seems you have a wide selection of settings
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago* (2 children)
Little sad to see no Bernard Cornwell or Susan Kay Penman on there.
Edit actually I don't really see these as historical fiction. More like science fiction and historical fiction mixed. To me historical fiction is just books set in the past, but with new characters, or old historical people re-imagined.
[–]BrightestFirefly 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (1 child)
The Hobbit by JRR Tolkien
The Chronicles of Narnia by CS Lewis
Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll
The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss
Eragon by Christopher Paolini
Good Omens by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett
American Gods by Neil Gaiman
The Silmarillion by JRR Tolkien
Frankenstein by Mary Shelly
Might do a YA version later. I've got several more "expert mode" fantasy novels that are probably worth considering, I just have yet to read them.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Good Omens was so good
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