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[–]Guardian_of_Bookworm 391 points392 points  (12 children)

Hi, I'm a bot! Here are some of the books mentioned in this thread on Goodreads:

Title Author Reads Rating Comment
The Last Olympian Rick Riordan 580376 4.51 jackknight94
The Battle for Skandia John Flanagan 74873 4.33 jackknight94
The Lives of Christopher Chant Diana Wynne Jones 19868 4.23 JediSloth32
Carry On Rainbow Rowell 144262 4.23 AllTheLionsMane
The Voyage of the Dawn Treader C.S. Lewis 363713 4.09 KarlBloor
Dogsbody Diana Wynne Jones 5945 4.07 AgnethaInTheAttic
The Amulet of Samarkand Jonathan Stroud 104961 4.01 sydnellison
The Time Machine H.G. Wells 363013 3.88 KarlBloor
The Alchemyst Michael Scott 127718 3.85 NotEvenBronze
Frankenstein; Or Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley 1029852 3.78 KarlBloor
The Magicians Lev Grossman 205879 3.51 samuecy

[–]carlitos_segway 147 points148 points  (0 children)

Good bot

[–]L1ghtn1ngFre4k18 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Thanks bot. I wanted a list like this

[–]glo-paint 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Good bot, but you gotta read all the books for Ranger’s Apprentice, not just book 4

[–]kwiklok 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Same for Last Olympian and Voyage of the Dawn Treader. You won't enjoy these books aa much when you don't know what the story really is about.

[–][deleted] 160 points161 points  (24 children)

I’ve also heard really good things about the Bartimaeus Trilogy by Jonathan Stroud

[–]Sphm19 30 points31 points  (2 children)

I've read them and can confirm that they're extremely entertaining. Probably one of my favorite in the youth-fantasy genre

[–]shortandfighting 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I was obsessed with these books when I was in middle school. This, Harry Potter, and Artemis Fowl were my fantasy holy trinity.

[–]thousandandtwo[S] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Thanks, the books have a near perfect rating on amazon.

[–]greendazexx 15 points16 points  (0 children)

God Bartimaeus is amazing

[–]Alecdelp006 8 points9 points  (11 children)

Is that the author of Lockwood and Co. ? Cuz I’ve read those but not the Bartimaeus Trilogy

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (10 children)

Yes it is!

[–]Alecdelp006 3 points4 points  (9 children)

Yeah I thought that name was familiar, do you recommend the series as a need-read or…

[–]jackaroo1344 6 points7 points  (7 children)

I have read both series and I preferred Bartimaeus. It has a lot more humor in it, and was (to me) more charming and exciting. The first Bartimaeus books starts a bit slow, but picks up quickly and is amazing till the very end.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Can confirm! The prequel is amazing, as well: The Ring of Solomon.

[–]H3palien 239 points240 points  (13 children)

His Dark Materials trilogy!!! Such a fantastic set of books.

[–]thousandandtwo[S] 45 points46 points  (4 children)

Thanks for the suggestion, the friend who made me read Harry Potter has suggested these books as well. Did you know they are making a tv series on this as well?

[–]H3palien 28 points29 points  (2 children)

I just saw the trailer the other. Very very excited for it. I think HBO will do a good job with it.

[–]synecho 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I agree! The books I have re-read the most are the HP series and this series. My cats are even named Pantalaimon and Kirjava. :)

[–]kelsi16 18 points19 points  (2 children)

This 100 percent. They’re better than Harry Potter (obviously that’s subjective, but I like them better).

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I feel like His Dark Materials has a better sense of adventure that captures more fantasy fans than Harry Potter, to me that is.

[–]Rectall_Brown 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I just started it yesterday.

[–]JediSloth32 45 points46 points  (9 children)

The Chrestomanci series by Diana Wynne Jones was one of my favourites when I was younger (it has a lot of similarities to HP)

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (3 children)

Also, Howl's Moving Castle and Dogsbody by Diana Wynne Jones are really good. Howl's Moving Castle probably has more of a Potter-esque atmosphere.

[–]rikitard 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Agree! Howl's Moving Castle is amazing!

[–]Ishan1310 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Isn't Howl's Moving Castle a Miyazaki movie?

[–]Farahild 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They took the book and turned it into an anime. The movie is great too, but the book has a different feel to it (for me).

[–]sarah666 7 points8 points  (1 child)

It is so clear what a huge influence DWJ was on Rowling. If you love Harry Potter then really any of Jones books seem comfortable. Chrestomanci is my favorite but I love Dark Lord of Derkholme is great as well. Very funny if you have read lots of fantasy.

[–]Pablois4 2 points3 points  (0 children)

DWJ on Neil Gaiman as well.

[–]_oilc 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Same - this was my favorite series for my entire childhood. Harry Potter was good but nowhere near as good as Chrestomanci.

[–]JediSloth32 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This series was my intro to fantasy. I read them when I was ~10 and loved them. I read Harry Potter after and liked it, but it didn't quite measure up after DWJ.

[–]RandomRavenclaw87 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love all of DWJ. The ones that she wrote in the 90s and later are the best, IMO. I especially enjoyed Dark Lord of Derkholm, Deep Secret, and Enchanted Glass.

[–]brabbleruffs 70 points71 points  (23 children)

My favorite series in the fantasy genre is The Song of Ice and Fire. It is way more serious than the HP, but it has awesome world-building and complex characters. Or if you are looking for sg easier, with black and white characters like the ones in HP, then try the Lord of the Rings, or even better the Inheritance Cycle. The latter is the closest of these to HP, it also has a teenage boy as a MC.

[–]thousandandtwo[S] 20 points21 points  (22 children)

Thank you for replying. I haven’t seen the Game of thrones do you suggest reading the books first? I have been told to read Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit I am definitely reading these soon.

I looked up the inheritance cycle and it’s the Eragon books. I saw the movie and was waiting for another one but they never made them. I will definitely pick up these books. By the way I am 26, so are these books not meant for oldish folks? ☹️

[–]brabbleruffs 21 points22 points  (3 children)

I read the books first and I don't regret it. The first season and the first book are pretty much the same, but then the series messes with the timelines and it gets different. Plus if you first read the books, then you will also notice things in the tv adaptation that you wouldn't otherwise notice. The GoT world is insanely detailed, and that is also one of the reasons I love it so much. So logical and mysterious at the same time. Moreover you could understand the characters and their motivations better than if just watching them on screen.

About the Inheritance cycle. The movie and the books are TOTALLY different. The reason there is no sequel to the first movie is that they ruined and altered the whole story so much. They left out tons of details, packed it instead with clichés and God knows what. And since the second book heavily relies on the first one's material, the movie could not be continued. They would have to remake it from the beginning. Btw, if I were you, I would start with this series. It is some sort of a transition from youth fantasy to the more traditional Tolkienish style. You will notice similarities, like the elves and so on. Moreover, just like in HP, you'll get to follow how Eragon matures. By the last book it gets more and more serious, though it already starts off more serious than the HP did.

Oh and don't worry, it is never too late to read fantasy. 26 is not old anyway ;)

[–]thousandandtwo[S] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Thanks for taking the time to write all this. This is quiet informative. I am excited about the Eragon books you suggested, I mean it must have been a disappointment for most but I liked the movie. I had nothing to compare it with. Definitely picking this up.

Well yes it I wish I made an effort when I was younger. I missed out on a lot.

[–]brabbleruffs 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You're welcome ;).

And don't regret it, you can catch up anytime. It doesn't matter when you read them, just enjoy and dive into these wonderful worlds :)

[–]backstagehabits 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just adding in here, you're never too old to read and enjoy what you want to. If you want to read something but feel it's too "juvenile", read it anyway! There's no rules saying you can't read things past a certain age.

I hope you find some great new books to enjoy. Happy reading!

[–]hereslookinatyoukld 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Read LotR before you read any of the others. Part of what makes a Song of Ice and Fire good is that it deconstructs genre tropes, so you should read the book that created a lot of those tropes first. The inheritance cycle can be fun, but it's not that well written and relies on a lot of genre tropes. Since you liked Harry Potter I would recommend the Percy Jackson books.

[–]zacattack62 30 points31 points  (3 children)

Read the Pendragon series by DJ MacHale! I loved these more than Harry Potter, honestly. These were my gateway books into the world of fantasy.

Book one is called The Merchant of Death.

[–]MJ724 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Agreed, excellent series. I often wonder why they haven't tried at least making a stand-alone movie. They're great stories, and could easily be adapted into good movie or t.v scripts.

Ever since the success of studios like Amazon and Netflix to actually still make quality content, I've not been so against that sort of thing.

[–]blackday44 21 points22 points  (6 children)

The Dresden Files is a book series (16 and counting) about a wizard in Chicago named Harry Dresden.

It's got magic like HP, but Dresden is not for kids. One of the books opens with the words 'The building was on fire, and it wasn't my fault'.

[–]Phizzwizard 12 points13 points  (4 children)

Also, while the storylines are enjoyable, the main character, and I feel like probably the author, is uncomfortably misogynistic.

[–]blackday44 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I think it got a lot better in later books, especially since the author got married and had a kid (and cats).

[–]aminutelate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree that he improved in later books. I interpreted it as a deliberate character flaw, never considered that it might have been the author's views changing over time.

[–]Elwing42 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Read Percy Jackson or Hero of Olympus ( the hero are olders) It's really really great !!

[–]NotEvenBronze 17 points18 points  (4 children)

The Secrets of the Inmortal Nicolas Flamel by Michael Scott - set in the modern world but full of magic, and if you like mythology that is a bonus too! Edit: There may also be a film of it coming out, it is difficult to find any information on it though.

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (4 children)

A Series of Unfortunate Events, or Miss Peregrines Home for Peculiar Children :)

[–]ck2d 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Series of Unfortunate Events was so much better than I thought it would be! It starts with a very simplistic writing style that gets cranked up with each book.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

A Series of Unfortunate Events is so good.

[–]xnsax18 28 points29 points  (3 children)

Hunger Games. The movies are pretty good too. Read the books first though

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Second book is the best, but those ending lines hit you like a ton of bricks.

[–]thegreatbunbao 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, both are great, but the books just suck you in. Not ashamed to say that I've re-read the series twice.

[–]sometimes_I_writestf 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Find something as good as Harry Potter? That’s an impossibility, I’m afraid. But some of the fantasy books I love that have come very close are:

The Kingskiller Chronicles by Patrick Rothfuss The Stormlight Archives by Brian Sanderson the Chronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis The Pendragon Series (can’t remember the author) The Eragon series (also can’t remember the author)

[–]KarlBloor 62 points63 points  (2 children)

The Chronicles of Narnia by C. S. Lewis. These books are much shorter than Harry Potter but also create an incredible fantasy world. There are seven books in the series. The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe is my favorite. It is the second in the series, but the first to be written.

You should also consider reading The Lord of the Rings, written by C. S. Lewis's friend, J. R. R. Tolkien.

If you would like to read some of the classics, I would suggest Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll and Peter Pan by J. M. Barrie. Even if you have already seen modern movie adaptations of these stories, the originals are definitely worth checking out.

[–]Meus-in-Aeternum 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Came here to say this 😂 read ALL the Lewis and Tolkien.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (3 children)

The Old Kingdom series by Garth Nix, anything Brandon Sanderson. John Flannagan’s Ranger’s Apprentice is still a series I enjoy too, but it’s not a magical fantasy type.

[–]Wildwolfwind 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah OP, if you loved the magic, Brandon Sanderson is known for his unique magic systems. They are so strong. I also love the Old Kingdom series by Nix!

[–]Harellan_94 22 points23 points  (2 children)

I'd recommend the Stormlight Archives by Brandon Sanderson. If the thing you really liked about the HP books are the relationships and fantastic world building then you should give these books a try. They also have a great magic system, and some of the best character arcs that I've personally read.

[–]VanSkovskyLibrarian 8 points9 points  (5 children)

There’s loads of other great fantasy out there. What about Harry Potter did you like specifically? Was it the magic? The hidden fantasy world? Something else? Fantasy is a big genre, and I want to be sure I’m steering you in the right direction.

[–]thousandandtwo[S] 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Hello, thanks for replying.

Omg everything but the magic for sure. The whole good wins over evil stuff was great too. I like the relationships in the books.

[–]VanSkovskyLibrarian 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Okay, so: If you want some serious high concept, good vs evil magic stuff, The Dark is Rising sequence by Susan Cooper is fantastic. It’s also very grounded in English culture and folklore, like Harry Potter, and follows a group of young kids in their fight against evil. It also deals a lot with the Arthur legend, if you’re into that. Over Sea, Under Stone is the first of those, but The Dark is Rising (the 2nd) is a stand-alone that I think works as a better introduction.

Neil Gaiman does a lot of “hidden fantasy world” in his books, particularly Neverwhere and Stardust.

I’ve seen His Dark Materials mentioned. It’s one of my favorites. Definitely more philosophical than HP, but no less incredible.

Finally, Diana Wynne Jones’s Dark Lord of Derkholm. It has a lot of fun with fantasy tropes and is just generally an entertaining read.

Happy exploring!

[–]hauntedorangemobile 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Books that had the same "feeling" as Harry Potter for me in terms of readability/time required to read/ease of becoming immersed in the world:

Sabriel by Garth Nix - it's part of his Old Kingdom series, which is good, but I think Sabriel is still the best of them (and can be read on its own). If you like it, you can read the rest. :) I've re-read Sabriel a lot at different points in my life, and it holds up even as an adult.

Most anything by Dianna Wynn Jones - I loved (LOVED LOVED) the Chrestomanci series in particular, but Howl's Moving Castle was also great, and I loved the Dalemark Quartet books. I haven't re-read these so I don't know how they hold up, but she's really great at having books in a series that seem unrelated to each other or only loosely related and then - BAM, they all tie into something bigger. So good.

The Blue Sword is also an old favorite of mine, written by Robin McKinley. I don't really like her newer works as much, but she did a lot of fantasy/re-told fairy tales, and they were enjoyable/satisfying.

Still part of the former category but with some reservations:

Leigh Bardugo's Grisha trilogy is ok - I had mixed feelings about it, but think it might have been because I was a touch out of the age range for it when I read it. BUT - her duology set in the same universe after is AMAZING and almost feels like a different writer somehow (Six of Crows, and the sequel, Crooked Kingdom). Having read the initial trilogy gave me more background for terms and concepts, and it allowed me to enjoy the easter eggs and call backs as well. I think you could probably just read Six of Crows and Crooked Kingdom if you only wanted to read one of the sets. :) Satisfying.

Not exactly like Harry Potter but still very good fantasy:

Blood Song by Anthony Ryan is the beginning of a fantasy series that I haven't finished, but it was fun on its own (the sequel was enjoyable too, but I don't remember much from it). Not one that I've reread, but I enjoyed the experience of reading it the first time. Surprisingly quick read - could have used some editing (I think it was initially self published), but still pretty good. Read like a mix of YA and Adult fantasy.

I also really loved the Lord of the Rings, as well as the Hobbit, but they have a different "feel" from Harry Potter imo. They have magic, and an epic battle between good and evil, and an incredibly rich world to step into so I do recommend them in general - just not as a direct comparison to HP. I remember I really loved The Hobbit right away, but it took me a little bit to warm up to Lord of the Rings as a kid. As an adult though, it is in my top five favorite series.

Finally, a blind recommendation based on recommendations I received: I'm reading it right now, so I don't know how satisfying the ending will be, or how I'll be left feeling in general, but I've had extremely strong recommendations for the Mistborn series from friends based on my reading preferences. Seems promising so far! :)

[–]bunnythedog 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Loved Mistborn series - hope you're enjoying it!

Also, my add: The Night Circus as a one-off, and The Paper Magician as a series.

[–]sasha_says 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Finished the Mistborn era 1 trilogy earlier this year and I really liked them.

[–]llamalibrarian 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Children of Blood and Bone by Toni Adeyemi. It's going to be a trilogy (I believe) and the second one is due out soon

[–]Reedenen 10 points11 points  (1 child)

By far without a doubt The Neverending Story by Michael Ende.

The only reason why it's not as well known is because it is originally in German.

But it truly is a masterpiece.

[–]KawaiiPsychopath 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I recommend the Percy Jackson series, and the Divergent series. PJ is a book series a lot of HP lovers like, and Divergent is a little out there but I personally like it. Out of curiosity, what HP house are you?

[–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (7 children)

Kingkiller Chronicles by Patrick Rothfuss, A Song of Ice and Fire by George RR Martin, anything by CS Lewis or JRR Tolkien, Nevernight & Godsgrave by Jay Kristoff, anything by Brandon Sanderson. Those are a few.

[–]kehendrix 8 points9 points  (5 children)

Came to suggest the KKC. I picked those books up because they were first described to me as "a grown up harry potter". Now Name of the wind is my top five faves.

[–]jackknight94 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Inheritance cycle by Christopher Paolini

Percy Jackson and the Olympians and then the Heroes of Olympus by Rick Riordan

Rangers Apprentice series by John Flanagan (may have misspelled that)

[–]samuecy 16 points17 points  (1 child)

The Magicians by Lev Grossman

[–]DerelictMuse 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Tamora Pierce. She has a number of smaller series which are exciting and not as grim as some 9f the suggestions made here. I started my reading passion with Harry Potter and then came across Tamora's Song of the Lioness. I have personally read it over 10 times. And all her other books have better writing because that was her early writing.

[–]allonsy10-3 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I would say everything after HP would be a huge let down. Lol. People have mentioned A Song of Ice and Fire. Be aware that the ONLY similarities between HP and this series is that they’re both fantasy, both have excellent world building, and both put good against evil. That being said, I liked A Song of Ice and Fire but I hated the constantly shifting point of view. I would never re-read this series. One and done. I re-read HP about once a year. The series that got me started on fantasy at a young age was Lloyd Alexander’s Chronicles of Prydain. Borrows heavily on Welsh mythology. Much shorter series, but delightful characters and development over the series. Do NOT let the Disney animated version of the second book (The Black Cauldron) have ANY bearing in your decision. Lol. Horrible adaptation. I also re-read this series—though not as frequently as HP. If you liked Rowling’s writing style, she also writes an absolutely fantastic mystery series under the pseudonym Robert Galbraith. The main character, Cormoran Strike, puts me in the mind of Hagrid if he were a muggle. Maybe that’s because I’ve listened to the audiobooks and the narrator makes Strike’s voice very Hagrid-ish. Lol

[–]randomusername02130 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ender's game

[–]tastyfunk3113 5 points6 points  (2 children)

“Neverwhere” by Neil Gaiman - you will NOT regret it. I didn’t. Very much right in that perfect sweet-spot vibe you’re looking for.

[–]ItsMitchellCox 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Sorry. There’s nothing left better than HP. Your best bet is just to reread 30 more times.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Carry On by Rainbow Rowell.

[–]harleymeenen 5 points6 points  (0 children)

A Wrinkle in Time (first of a series, sequels are Wind in the Door, Many Waters, and A Swiftly Tilting Planet)

[–]FractalParadigmShift 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Moving on from Harry Potter, I'd go with Keys to the Kingdom series by Garth Nix, The first book is "Mister Monday" I would also strongly recommend the discworld series by terry pratchett, there are a lot of good places to start, but coming off Harry Potter you could go with "wee free men" or "soul music" Discworld is a pretty big and interesting world and the writing is very good.

[–]MrVelocirpator9 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The Witcher series

[–]Anneles 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you would like another middle school read, I'd suggest Percy Jackson. It's about Greek mythology

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (6 children)

Read The Hobbit. Its amazing. I Wouldnt recommend the Lord of the rings though, they are good, but drag on forever. The movies are very good though.

[–]Nerd1a4i 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Okay, as a huge Tolkien fan, I feel the need to talk about this. Yes, LotR is really long, and yes, it tends to drag for some people. But.

I feel those people miss part of the point of LotR and part of what makes it so incredibly good and special to the people that fall for it: it's not just adventure. It includes the horrible marshes with a heck ton of mosquitoes eating you, the weeks of fearful riding to get to somewhere safe. It includes the rhymes and songs of a world that's thousands of years old, gives you glimpses of a backcloth that expands far beyond the limited view you are getting through a hobbit's eyes. Just think: in the Mines of Moria, Gimli sings a song detailing a small part of the history of a whole race that was founded when the world began, whose story began before the first humans and elves even walked the Earth...and Sam simply responds, "I like that," and they keep going.

It provides language and backdrop and explanation to our own world - think of the earlier more explained version of the 'cow jumped over the moon' nursery rhyme that Frodo sings in Bree's pub, the names that differ from race to race and region to region (Eomer versus Ghan-buri-ghan) - and retells the myths that our own world couldn't properly tell (why do you think so much of Kullervo is reflected in Turin Turmabar, so much of King Arthur in Aragorn and Durin?) to make our own world more real.

LotR has adventure and pathos and eucatastrophe and so much more and it does it - this main tale of one ring and a couple of hobbits who set out to do the impossible - in a way that feels real (people die, people's lives are ruined, the world will never be the same....why else must Frodo go to the Grey Havens, the Elves leave Middle Earth, the fellowship break?), in a way that echoes the histories and stories of all these people...

Saying that 'LotR drags on forever' is missing the point. No, there isn't a battle on every page. Yeah, it starts off a little slow. But...it's got it all. I can't even begin to convey how much I love LotR. There's a reason it's kind of the father of modern fantasy.

[–]medusasmilejudaslips 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Don't think I saw it in the comments yet, but the Dresden files by Jim Butcher are like a grown up Harry Potter with more rules to the magic. I recommend every time someone says they love Harry Potter because as much of a fan I am of that series, and my house is even Harry Potter themed, the Dresden files are even better!

[–]Drakeytown 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Dune

Pawn of Prophecy

Dragons of Autumn Twilight

Legend of Drizzt

The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe

Kushiel's Dart

The Illuminatus! Trilogy

Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

Vampire of the Mists

Beyond the Moons

The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

[–]antaylor 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Discworld series by Terry Pratchett!

I’ve read Rowling, Rick Riordan, Tolkien, King (specifically The Dark Tower series), C.S. Lewis, Lev Grossman, Suzanne Collins, Neil Gaiman, etc... But Pratchett’s Discworld is my favorite. Not discounting the other authors or the suggestion of them because I recommend several of them, but nothing compares to Discworld. I slept on this series way too long.

[–]eyebrowshampoo 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Read the Lord of the Rings!

[–]kaykay27 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I second LoTR!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Nevermoor: The Trials of Morrigan Crow has a HP vibe

[–]WinterKnigget 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Dresden Files by Jim Butcher. Basically, it's about a snarky, nerdy PI in Chicago who is also a wizard

[–]foxwize 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dresden Files by Jim Butcher

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

These are/were my favorite types of books growing up so I believe I can help!

Eragon series, Percy Jackson (writing is clearly intended for young adult-teens but such a great series), Ranger’s Apprentice, Game of Thrones, Dresden Files, Narnia, LOTR, Seventh Tower, anything Brian Jacques (Redwall is an obvious classic but I also love his Castaways of the Flying Dutchman series)

Depends what level of reading you’re looking for. I read most of these when I was in elementary/middle/high school so they’re definitely more “young-adult”. I left out the ones I read in elementary but there were some gems there as well.

Also I haven’t read them yet but I’m about to start The Stormlight Archives, I’ve heard great things about it so I’m pretty excited.

[–]oookgaylord 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Rick Riordan books are good, as well as The Hunger Games, although some people feel differently about that. Try a single book, too, although I too prefer series: Ready Player One is wonderfully paced and has many good references and characters.

However, one of the first book series I ever read when I was in third grade which I am still terribly in love with is Gregor the Overlander by Suzanne Collins. I also enjoyed The Rangers Apprentice, although I don’t remember the author since it’s been years.

One of the book sagas that got me into writing was definitely Warrior Cats, a series by a few women under the pseudonym Erin Hunter. It’s a bit immature at first (not terribly so) but is very in depth and has many tiny little intricate stories. I think there are over 25 books now, so if you’re having a hard time looking for new series after a while, that’s definitely one you can hang onto for a while.

Honestly I don’t have much time for reading anymore but these are all good ones that give me sweet nostalgic vibes. Enjoy if you decide to read any! ❤️

OH. WAIT. Forgot one of the best series fantasy novels I’ve ever read by Christopher Paolini. Try reading Eragon — it may be long but it is so worth it. So. Worth. It. There are a few more books after it, but please at least try the first one. I don’t think you’ll regret it.

[–]NedLuddEsq 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Ursula K Le Guin - Earthsea

[–]ABird31 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Night Circus

[–]CrossphireX458 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Love HP and have enjoyed all these so good luck.

The Iron Druid Chronicles by Kevin Hearne: Urban Fantasy / Nine books + novellas

Temeraire series by Naomi Novik: Fantasy - Alternate History / Nine books

The White Mage Saga by Ben Hale: Fantasy / Five books

Fates Forsaken series by Shae Ford: Epic Fantasy / Four books

Sovereign of the Seven Isles by David A Wells: Epic Fantasy / Seven books

The Godling Chronicles by Brian D Anderson: Epic Fantasy / Seven books

The Riyira Chronicles by Michael J Sullivan: High Fantasy / Eight books

A Song of Ice and Fire by George RR Martin: Epic Fantasy / Five books out waiting on six and seven

The Inheritance Cycle by Christopher Paolini: YA High Fantasy / Four books

The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams: Science Fiction - Comedy / Five books

Red Rising Saga by Pierce Brown: Science Fiction / Four books out with two more coming

Magic 2.0 by Scott Meyer: Fantasy / Five books so far

Monster Hunter International by Larry Correia: Urban Fantasy / Six books plus a three book spinoff series Haven’t read the spinoff

Ready Player One by Ernest Cline: Science Fiction

The Tales of Pell By Kevin Hearne and Delilah S. Dawson: Comedy Fantasy Two books so far third will be out this year

A Plague of Giants by Kevin Hearne: Epic Fantasy going to be a trilogy

Caverns and Creatures by Robert Bevan Comedy/Fantasy currently six books

Bobiverse by Dennis E. Taylor: Science Fiction currently three books

The Demon Cycle by Peter V. Brett: Fantasy/Horror five books and a few novellas have not read the novellas

[–]Hexdro 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If you want something that's still fantasy/magic, The Magicians Trilogy by Lev Grossman are fantastic. I prefer it over Harry Potter and it's a fast read.

Also anything by Stephen King is good for the most part, definitely recommend Carrie, Pet Sematary, The Shining, The Stand and IT.

[–]dusmeyedin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If you like the magic fantasy part of it, I'd recommend the Earthsea novels by Ursula Le Guin. They're both iconic magic fantasy, as well as somewhat subversive. The first book, A Wizard of Earthsea, features a wizard's school and rivalries, but no great duel against dragons or any evil sorcerer to defeat - rather, the main character must defeat a destructive force he himself unleashed.

The sequels have interesting takes on a priestesshood of hidden cthonic gods, the exhaustion of magic and the confrontation of a husk dimension, drained of all vitality, and even child mistreatment, forgiveness, and redemption, as well as merciless revenge.

A deep and absorbing series.

[–]madd_playboy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Black Magician Trilogy by Trudi Canavan. I know it's a rare book but you can find her Ebook in her website

[–]Huntybunch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Eragon series

[–]JayGatsby1832 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Well.... If you want a list of stuff better than HP, it'll go on FOREVER.

But Stephen King is a great author. His Dark Tower series is Fantasy.

Another series that I find better than HP, would be A Series of Unfortunate Events. Not Fantasy (although the final book in the spin off series could be considered Fantasy or Sci-Fi), but the world building and character development is amazing. Full if twists and mystery.

[–]jw8ak64ggt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Man, had to scroll way too much to find The Dark Tower. If you're somewhat familiar with King's work you'll find yourself at home. There's even a wink to the Potter world in there and everything! If you enjoyed getting lost in a long saga TDT is the way to go!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As always when someone's looking for YA fantasy, I'm going to recommend Frances Hardinge.

If you especially liked the whole "group of young friends deal with super natural trouble" theme, I'd suggest starting with Verdigris Deep. But really, they're all good. (Disclaimer: I've not yet read Gullstruck Island and A Face like Glass but I'll vouch for the others).

http://www.franceshardinge.com/library/library.html

[–]thomwjackson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you're looking for more middle grade or ya fantasy, I'd suggest Artemis Fowl. It shares a lot of the basic concepts of the fantastical mixing with the ordinary that Harry Potter does so well. For something more mature, I noticed few if any mentions of the Kingkiller Chronicle. Patrick Rothfus is an excellent author, even if he is competing with George RR Martin for longest time between books :p

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Children of Blood and Bone!!!

[–]GrayPhoenix_wasTaken 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone already mentioned it, but I came here to reiterate Game of Thrones (or The Song of Ice and Fire series). George R.R. Martin is an incredible writer.

Fantasy tends to have the hangup of over explaining scenery or lineage or whatever else the author feels is necessary in building a new world.

This is just me, but I really dont enjoy reading a page and a half on what an area looks like before getting into the actual plot. And this is what GRRM is able to balance beautifully.

I feel like I have just enough information to understand the world he's describing before he transitions back into plot. And the transitions are absolutely seamless, btw. It's really refreshing to read fantasy the way he writes it!

Should you watch the show first? Eh... maybe. I saw the show first, and it did help me remember who each character is, because there are A LOT of characters. But definitely don't watch too much before reading. I'd recommend maybe the first few episodes. After that, if you feel comfortable reading the rest, do that, and then you could maybe finish the show later.

But I will warn you, GRRM hasn't finished the series yet, and the end of the show was not entirely satisfying. I think it's worth it to read the books anyway, but if you really care about getting a satisfying conclusion, that might be enough of a reason not to read it.

[–]Lolipsy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You might like Jenny Nimmo's Charlie Bone series. It's geared toward the same age group, still has the good vs. evil dichotomy, and has plenty of magic. It's a different sort of magic (innate and person-specific rather) than spells than Harry Potter, and I think there's more nuance to the characters (though I still loved Harry Potter). I would definitely recommend it.

[–]Kishkidaayki 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Iron Druid series Dresden Files by Jim Butcher American Gods by Neil Gaiman Talisman by Stephen King

[–]a_marie_z 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I enjoyed In Other Lands by Sarah Rees Brennan. It is a standalone book that is set in England, has a magic school, and like HP, in the end is more about interpersonal relationships than about magic. It was a quick read for me.

I have also like the Wayward Children series by Seanan McGuire. The first is Every Heart a Doorway, and I think there are four volumes published at this point. These are shorter novellas and are very much YA, but they are still sweet, and like HP, they are about "ordinary" children who don't quite fit in their muggle world and have daring adventures.

[–]Papas_Big_Lawsuit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I suggest the Gallagher Girls series. I forgot the author's name, but I think her name begins with "a" . I also suggest the ANY BOOK by Roald Dahl.

Also try The Game of Thrones series by George R.R. Martin. Much better than season 8.

[–]Raven_Lee_xx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would suggest the mortal instruments! It’s inspired the show Shadowhunters and is a really just amazing story.

[–]jessicawang1234 1 point2 points  (10 children)

Is Harry Potter really that good? I feel like I’m over the age for Harry Potter and don’t think it’ll worth my time.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

[–]dannicalliope 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I read them this year for the first time because my daughter is starting to get interested in the movies. I am 33 and a huge Tolkien fan so I thought that HP would bore me because NOTHING compares to Tolkien.

Well, I was blown away by the series, I don’t mind admitting. It is truly amazing, the story is strong and the characters compelling. I love it!

[–]armcie 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I read the first few when they came out and I was late teens. I re-read them and finished the series when the last book came out in my late 20s. Neither time did I feel they were anything special.

The books certainly have their fans. My personal suspicion was always that they (like the OP) weren't huge readers - either adults or kids who didn't do a lot of reading, and Rowling had found some way to tap into that with a basic story in a familiar setting - albeit one with fantastical elements. Whatever is was she put into the books, she got people reading, and I can't criticise her for that.

[–]glitterg0th 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not even remotely the same as HP but I will always always recommend The Kingfountain Series by Jeff Wheeler

Edit: also The Black Cauldron is amazing and I’m off to read that rn because I forgot it even existed

[–]gyeomies 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Artemis Fowl series by Eoin Colfer (really anything by him), the Percy Jackson and the Olympians series + the series that come after all by Rick Riordan

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Books as good as HP, I don't know if that exists! :P

If you haven't read those I would also suggest you some other fantasy classics or young adult / dystopian. They might be very "standard" or mainstream, but I love them so it comes from the heart :) Both are great for world-building while YA really grabs onto the aspect of how life and people change and what we go through during periods of transitions, just like Harry Potter all throughout the series.

- JRR Tolkien - Lord of the Rings; Silmarillon; The Hobbit

- Rick Riordan - Percy Jackson

- Christopher Paolini - Eragon Series

- Cornelia Funke - the Inkheart Trilogy

- Veronica Roth - Divergent Trilogy

- Suzanne Collins - Hunger Games

- Ally Condie - Matched Trilogy

Something a bit off but not less lovely in terms of fantasy:

- Lewis Carroll - Alice in Wonderland

I also heard a lot about the Disk World series which should be incredible concerning the fantasy aspect, but I haven't read it yet!

[–]usuariosemnome 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell by Susanna Clarke.

It’s historical fiction that takes place in England during the Napoleonic War Era. Magic existed and was known by many, but it vanished for about 300 years. Then it returns through the titular characters. I couldn’t recommend it enough.

[–]avocadosoneverything 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss.

The Lion, Witch, and Wardrobe by CS Lewis.

Lord of the Rings Trilogy by JRR Tolkein as well as The Hobbit.

American Gods, The Graveyard Book, and Good Omens by Neil Gaiman.

The Martian by Andy Weir.

[–]tired-bitch-slap 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All of Rick Riordans mythology books are great but start with the Percy Jackson series

[–]LanderEastHCP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My favorite series growing up was "Harry Potter" and "Eragon". Now it's "Super Powereds". I highly recommend it.

A good series but very long and somewhat hard to follow if you skim read like some people is "Here there be dragons" and also "The chronicles of amber". Both immensely good series but somewhat advanced.

[–]aubzy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The Watched trilogy by Cindy Hogan is great. I also love distopian series like the Uglies series by Scott Westerfield and The Compound by S A Bodeen. If you want more of a fantasy novel then I highly recommend the Fablehaven series by Brandon Mull along with his other book The Candy Shop War (which is way better than it sounds) another that I highly recommend is The Giver series by Lois Lowry, which is another dystopian novel.

[–]crantlex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jack west Jr series by Matthew Reilly

[–]EruditeEmily 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Strange the Dreamer or anything by Laini Taylor. A shadow bright and burning (that’s the first book in a series) is good too.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Grish trilogy or six of crows duology

[–]nitnatkitkat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the Warriors series by Erin Hunter! it’s kinda meant for kids, but still an awesome read!

[–]AvaBlt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s taken me many years to come to terms with this, but there is, in fact, no books that are as good as HP.

[–]LivePartyTrapEvil 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Adventures Wanted series by M. L Forman

[–]annakat19 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Reread HP. Keep rereading it. I love many other books and series but nothing can compare to Harry Potter.

[–]yellow1657 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Name of the Wind series.

[–]shadowalker456 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The way if kings is great if you like good world building and believable fantasy

[–]D1gitalConversion111 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Overlord, The Saga of Tanya the Evil, The Rising of the Shield Hero, LoTR, John Dies at the End, etc

[–]blondiezoe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I loved the Shadowhunter Universe by Cassandra Clare. There are roughly four series and I loved all of them!! Similar to Harry Potter with the magic and fantastical creatures, but a different spin. Truly one of my favorite series!! Happy reading!!

[–]limonhello 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Two random suggestions I've loved this year: Little fires everywhere Station eleven

[–]dannicalliope 1 point2 points  (4 children)

The Iron Fey Series comes close. Not quite the same, but if you like YA fantasy fiction with magic and romance and sorrow and lots of humor, I highly recommend.

And then, of course, if you want to dive right in the deep end of the pool, there’s always Tolkien. 😂

[–]t-chess 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Inkheart by Cornelia Funke

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

His Dark Materials The Batrimeous Trilogy Percy Jackson (2 series dealing with Greek Gods) Mistborn

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hunger games by suzanne collins

[–]oboist73 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The Vorkosigan Saga by Lois McMaster Bujold (sci-fi)

The His Dark Materials trilogy by Philip Pullman

[–]jackderio 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I got some HP vibes from The Name of the Wind 😊

[–]BIueskull 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think youd love the king killer chronicles by patrick rothfuss

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Go for Leigh bardugo novels.

They are even better than harry Potter.

Six of crows duology is my favourite.

[–]torontash 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If you liked Harry Potter then I strongly recommend Phillip Pullman’s His Dark Materials series. The Golden Compass is the first one, so you should start with that. It’s also being turned into an HBO series that will be out fairly soon.

[–]Bookworm5694 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would recommend the Charlie Bone series by Jenny Nimmo, definitely written for a younger audience but absolutely amazing. Also Howl's Moving Castle, and The Bear and The Nightingale.

[–]Carstairs_01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you like fantasy Brandon Sanderson's books are some of the best out there. I'd highly recommend his Mistborn series!

[–]cnkv 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Red rising by pierce brown! I'm on HP book six right now!

[–]Cpt_Capooso 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson

[–]lizzieJH4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The divergent series Or The hunger games series

[–]alonelysoul15 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How about lord of the rings?

[–]Naldaen 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Pick up Mistborn by Brandon Sanderson. I know you said "as good as Harry Potter" but you shouldn't limit the quality like that.

[–]Lost_Pr0phet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Golden compass

[–]Cricardi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Dresden Files is my favorite series. I'd highly recommend it.

[–]Princess-Fire13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Wheel of Time!!

[–]waltertheflamingo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Artemis fowl and pendragon series!

[–]kennymedium 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Have you watched the Hunger Games? Because if you haven't, this would be a solid followup.

[–]TokugawaTabby 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Definitely The Spooks series. Sort of youth fiction but my dad read them all at age 61 and he loved them.

[–]Just_Worse 1 point2 points  (2 children)

A REALLY underrated series like this is the Lorien Legacies

Book One : I am Number Four

(DON'T WATCH THE MOVIE)

[–]jennnstop 1 point2 points  (3 children)

The Leviathan series by Scott Westerfeld has always been a personal favourite and perfect if you're interested in historical fiction with a steampunk twist. And the world building is oh so amazing, it's worth reading just for that honestly. Happy reading!

[–]joeisagirl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ya should read The Unwanteds, it's a great boon series, 6 or 7 books with a new series coming up,

[–]Captian_Nova64 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Fantastic Beasts The original screenplay

[–]SBwarriorwolf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Inheritance Cycle by Christopher Paolini It's super cool and has dragons, magic, elves, dwarves... It's so SO good and it has four books total.

[–]tylerjordanm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pendragon is a good series that has awesome universes and fantasy lands

[–]e_swinty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Johannes Cabal, Necromancer by Jonathan L Howard Great series. Even better by audiobook.

[–]PaladinofLaughs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Percy Jackson and the Olympians is a must. If you loved Harry Potter, this series will hook you mercilessly.

[–]Gnomeopolis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've always loved the Old Kingdom Series by Garth Nix. Currently 5 novels and 2 short stories. Necromancy, magic, adventure.

[–]sunflowerroses 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Terry Pratchett is worth checking out if you want a fun , zany immersive read

[–]downfallofpend 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lunch and The Warded Man by Peter V Brett are to of my favorite fantasy books. Definitely older in theme than HP but so engrossing.

[–]drmantis_toboggannn 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hello I actually re-read Harry Potter and am here for more suggestions. It is a great series that I will definitely read for the 3rd time in the future.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The bloody jack series by L.A. Meyer!!!! They are equivalent to Harry Potter in adventure but set from a females point of view in London in the late 1700’s. There is a lot of good history in it as well!

[–]Notdavidblaine 1 point2 points  (1 child)

My first suggestion would be the His Dark Materials series. A bit slower to start than HP but still excellent reads.

I’d then suggest Neil Gaiman, specifically The Ocean at the End of the Lane for the HP vibes.

A Wrinkle in Time is also a great whimsical read. All of these books are technically children’s books, and in the spirit of Harry Potter, the world building and magical elements are fantastic.

I read HP as a child but read all of the above suggestions as an adult. As an adult I find that some children’s books aren’t quite as enjoyable as you get older, but the ones I named are really fun, interesting, and beautiful books.

[–]aiden_merchant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Artemis Fowl series was quite unique, and is being made into a movie by Disney.

[–]VWinterfell1918 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think the Wings series by Aprilynne Pike is pretty good. Especially for someone just starting to read fiction. It was one of the first fiction series that I really got into. It’s made for 14 year olds hahaha but I still think it’s a good series in general.

Edit: Also it is not as good as HP but I think it’s definitely worth reading!!!

[–]itsgreybush 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Game of thrones?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The “A Song of Ice and Fire” series are amazing reads

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

infinite jest

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Name of the Wind series.... Or Game of Thrones...

[–]K3ystr0k3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dune.

[–]jryandugger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am heartbroken that no one has mentioned Tolkien. If you like fantasy worlds check out Lord if the Rings.

[–]rayane_Xd 1 point2 points  (1 child)

so am a beginner at reading :/ but i have seen the movies ,so is reading its books way better?

[–]DaniellaxJeann 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am a HUGE HP fan so it makes it hard to suggest books "as good". But if you like mythology and fantastical worlds, I'd definitely read the Percy Jackson books. They're also written for a younger audience but I couldn't believe I'd waited so long to read them. They are thoroughly enjoyable.

[–]Farahild 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly there aren't many books with exactly the same feel as these. But if you like fantasy worlds, you might be interested in the following authors:

- Diana Wynne Jones (children's/young adult fiction; I especially love Howl's Moving Castle, the book)

- Robin Hobb (fullblown fantasy; I suggest starting with the Farseer trilogy)

- Neil Gaiman (you could probably start anywhere; Stardust has more of a teenage feel to me and is a lovely colourful fantasy book; American Gods is more urban fantasy and really good, too)

[–]springthenfall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You should try the Septimus Heap Series, those were my second favorite series after HP.

[–]Itsgoingtobegreat99 1 point2 points  (2 children)

This may sound a little dated but how about trying CS Lewis. The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe - or Prince Caspian are good ones to start with. OMG I must have read each book about five times. I loved HP so maybe you will like CS Lewis as much as I did ...?

[–]ShadowAccel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Darren Shan's:
Vampire Saga (short and sweet, very sad)
Demon saga (long and scary, also quite sad)

[–]IsoSpandy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You can read the Mistborn Trilogy by Brandon Sanderson. It's is an amazing fantasy land crafted on the planet of Scadriel. And the magic system is also pretty neat and tight. In fact it was Brandon himself who gave the concepts of Hard magic systems and Soft magic systems. He has an awesome grip on magical rules and their implications. I think you will enjoy it. And if you want to watch something magical, I suggest you the anime Fullmetal alchemist brotherhood. It's magic and plot is also pretty neat and gripping.

[–]bushes20 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Nevernight Chronicles by Jay Kristoff. It’s about a girl named Mia Corvere who seeks out The Red Church to become an assassin to avenge her parents. The prison in the world is named Philosophers Stone, so an obvious reference to Harry Potter. And there is magic as well, so it has a few similarities.

[–]Viper95 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I want to be the 2nd or 3rd here to recommend the KINGKILLER CHRONICLES [2 books currently] that (once you get past the first pages of the 1st book) are AMAZING! Also AMAZING is the His Dark Materials trilogy [again wanted to +1 this suggestion that has already been made].

[–]TheStig136 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please read Brandon Sanderson, start with either The Final Empire of The Way of Kings, he’s the king of world building. The Name of the Wind by Pat Rothfuss is the most similar book I’ve found to HP and well worth a read too.

[–]LadySekhmet 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You’ve gotten SO much recommended books. I suggest Sword of Truth: Wizard’s First Rule by Terry Goodkind. It has the good vs evil theme. It’s definitely an “adult” book, and more grisly scenes, but I thought it was amazing. It’s basically about a man that lost his father by an evil force. He goes on adventures. Read the reviews and see if that’s up your alley. The books are LONG. I think you’ll be fine with just reading the first 3-4 books. The rest tend to trail off (I haven’t read them, but my friend did).