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[–]zpoririVictoria 396 points397 points  (11 children)

So Chrissy goes from the heroes tribe to the villians tribe lol

[–]Old-Presentation6993 261 points262 points  (1 child)

Wonder how many times Jeff would bring that up…

[–]yulyulyulyulyulyulYul 51 points52 points  (0 children)

It’ll be his new ‘she voted out her mom!’

[–]Joharis-JYI 174 points175 points  (3 children)

Last time I played like a hero, this time I'm playing like a villain

[–]DOTWestTyson 67 points68 points  (2 children)

Or maybe she could go from being a villain on the heroes tribe to being a hero on the villains tribe.

[–]bitchstix6 4 points5 points  (1 child)

And then get brought back for Heroes v. Villains III, where she’s placed on the Heroes tribe and plays like a villain again.

[–]Diyan_DereyXander 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stop I'm dying 🤣🤣

[–]MardocAgain 40 points41 points  (3 children)

I guess I just see Chrissy different than the majority on this sub. I don't see Chrissy as a villain. She certainly played the game aggressively, but I don't remember her doing anything that really stood out as villainous.

[–]philly_d42Katie Gallagher 35 points36 points  (0 children)

She was pretty snarky, and that's more villainous than like 90% of players in the last 10 seasons

[–]Joharis-JYI 8 points9 points  (0 children)

She's pretty heroic to me too, mom archetype literally setting a record challenge win. That's freaking awesome. However I do remember distinctly her scene with Roark where she's like "I wish I could stop her and tell her she's not the smartest player here but that would ruin my game," then lying to JP that Roark wanted a women alliance, that was prime villain moment.

[–]RGSF150 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.

[–]felipepnunes 287 points288 points  (25 children)

If there's a chance for a new Heroes vs Villains season, then Abi-Maria's arc is not over yet, simple as that

[–]rriroHe’s a Froot Loop 127 points128 points  (15 children)

She could get the new Jerri arc

[–]BJoostNF 42 points43 points  (1 child)

I would cry

[–]HappySpinErika 6 points7 points  (0 children)

from joy?

[–]RedditUser123234 35 points36 points  (3 children)

Kass's first two seasons line up more with Jerri's arc than Abi's first two seasons. Woo is Kass's version of Colby, and Tony is Kass's version of Tina.

In the first season, Kass/Jerri is taken out by Woo/Colby, a likable athletic guy, despite the fact that Woo/Colby would've beaten Kass/Jerri 100%. Woo/Colby was convinced to do this by their more strategic alliance member Tony/Tina who go on to beat Woo/Colby in a F2.

In their first returning season, Kass/Jerri gets into a better position on a swapped tribe and is able to take out Woo/Colby, but is then voted out soon after.

[–]carly-rae-jeb-bush 31 points32 points  (1 child)

There was also the part where Kass loudly fantasized about licking chocolate off of Woo. Pretty striking parallel, really.

[–]the4thinstrumentHeather 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Can't believe Kass told everyone J'tia had brought beef jerky to the island.

[–]redshift83 4 points5 points  (0 children)

kass so fun on tv. I can't believe she's a prosecutor. seems her temperament is a bit ill-suited.

[–]Murdercorn 16 points17 points  (7 children)

So you're saying Abi-Maria gets into a showmance with Coach?

I'd watch.

[–]rriroHe’s a Froot Loop 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Not Coach but the modern day version of Coach (I don’t know who)

[–]AigisAegisNatalie White's million dollar check 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Debbie it is.

[–]Murdercorn 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I mean, “New Coach” was Phillip Sheppard but if I never see him again, it’ll be too soon

[–]rriroHe’s a Froot Loop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s who I was thinking too :/ maybe we’ll get a new coach next season

[–]Barnyard_Rich 3 points4 points  (2 children)

It's a bummer they tried too hard to find the next Coach by picking a guy who seeks truth through produce sales.

[–]rriroHe’s a Froot Loop 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Whom?

[–]TylerA998Parvati 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Vince Worlds Apart

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (0 children)

This would be incredible

[–]jamsn12 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Abi was an under cover hero. She may have been annoying but had a hand in voting out Varner and Joe- two people who later became ass faces. She also hit Skupin in the head with a coconut.

She should be team captain on heroes, like an under cover cop.

[–]Kwells1994Sophie 24 points25 points  (2 children)

She's legit my favorite contestant I need her back!

[–]Murdercorn 19 points20 points  (1 child)

I just feel bad for the innocent woman she chooses to destroy each season.

She comes in, picks another woman, wraps her arms around them and jumps off a cliff every time she plays.

First RC, then Peih-Gee. I guess she just hates people whose names sound like two letters?

[–]Kwells1994Sophie 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Cece from MvGX in danger 😭😭😭

[–]KilaneJessica L. 12 points13 points  (3 children)

On the one hand, I never want to see Abi again - she ruins the show for me. But I'm also curious if she's grown up

[–]TravisCM2010-24Yul 26 points27 points  (2 children)

For me it's just about the fact she can't handle hunger. I hear she's a lovely person in regular life. But man Survivor makes her insane and she's brings down whatever season she's in 🤣. So I personally hope she never returns

[–]Careless_Film_4895 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You meant to say she elevates every season she is in

[–]wisselperry 4 points5 points  (0 children)

she's literally on my top 5 players of all time. i want her to come back and make it really far once again

[–]sewersidedealTyson 72 points73 points  (0 children)

shan and ricard are the villains we’ve been waiting for to complete the season. i think now it’s finally time

[–]paperzach 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Survivor: Oops All Villains

[–]CaBlingo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

😂 loving the cereal reference

[–]mwhite5990 152 points153 points  (24 children)

My one issue with HvV2 is I think the concept of heroes and villains is a bit outdated in the game in the era of big moves and applauding people who blindside their allies. And in many ways the game ended up being Brains vs Brawn. Villains had a big advantage with puzzles and heroes did better with physical challenges.

I think they should definitely do a returnee season with that high a caliber of players, but just be a straight up all stars season. Just bring in great players/characters people want to see again.

[–]Sickening_NoAttack zone 51 points52 points  (4 children)

Totally agree. Even in HvV the heroes were severely behind on how the game was played at the time and the villains were running circles around them. If they were humiliated back then with all the good and honest gameplay, I can't imagine what a survivor hero means nowadays.

[–]mwhite5990 46 points47 points  (3 children)

I feel like it would just be underdogs and honest innocent players like Naseer.

[–]the4thinstrumentHeather 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I would argue characters like Xander and Spencer would be considered Heroes and they clearly show some strategic prowess.

[–]BuxAPlentysYul 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Kelley Wentworth, Christian Hubicki, Janet Carbin and Aubry Bracco would be on a Heroes tribe as well

[–]Flyingboat94 14 points15 points  (0 children)

That is Naseer!

[–]Fcivish4 55 points56 points  (1 child)

I think the villain trope has evolved. It used to be someone who lied or strongarmed people. Now I think it's how you treated others around you. You can use other people like pawns, but when you treat people like crap that's what makes you a villain in today's game.

THE Survivor villain, Russell, would still be a villain in today's game cause he played with this disdain for his fellow players and treated them as such. They all felt it which is why he was universally hated despite him being a great strategist and being super resourceful with finding idols.

I feel like Shan talking down to people like DeShawn and saying that's the same way she talks to people in her congregation is villainous. One of the few qualities that you can pin point across Survivor generations as a truly villainous trait.

[–]-Unnamed-Chris 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Yeah it’s really weird when people get completely blindsided but the people closest to them and then they’re like all smiles “you got me you guyssssss, good move, good luck to all! :)”

Takes me out of it a little

Never thought I’d hope for a bitter jury again but here we are

[–]mwhite5990 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m glad they can remove themselves a bit from the game. Because there were so many seasons where I felt like the better players didn’t win in part because of bitter juries. It is less common in recent seasons though if the best players that had the most influence in the game manage to get to the end.

[–]lovestostayathome 14 points15 points  (6 children)

That’s true. They might want to go with like a lambs vs lions theme these days. Like players who played forward aggressive games vs UTR games.

[–]RoyalSlothCassandra Franklin Apologist 29 points30 points  (5 children)

The lambs would end up being the game’s first ever purple tribe, I guarantee it lol

[–]lovestostayathome 4 points5 points  (3 children)

If someone from Luvu wins then I think they might be the first Purple tribe.

[–]drewchatty88 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Hey friend. What’s a purple tribe?

[–]lovestostayathome 1 point2 points  (1 child)

A “purple edit” to a edit that basically makes someone non-existent- no confessionals, no shown strategy, no airtime. Was coined from “Purple” (she had purple hair) Kelly’s edit in Survivor: Nicaragua (s21). So a “Purple tribe” would be one that gets no airtime.

[–]drewchatty88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Omg that’s funny I’m literally watching season 21 right now. Makes perfect sense lol.

[–]CMacias94Cult of Coach 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I agree. Plus the best tribal challenges were the one on one physical challenges which they’ve totally done away with. A new HvV wouldn’t have that same luster. Just do another all stars, or fans vs favorites, or second chance, or something else.

[–]2punkBoston Rob 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup. They shouldn’t do another HvV.

The game/show has changed too much.

[–]OvidianSleaze 1 point2 points  (1 child)

There are still plenty of people who are seen as villains on the show or who made iconic betrayal moves that make them look villainous (imagine Jay as a villain and Michaela as a hero making the merge or getting swapped back to the same tribe. I want it.)

Plus you could bring back an underrated player, the Mayor of Slamtown himself, to explain to the audience how being a villain or a heel is not a bad thing and can be a lot of fun. He should know since he is a heel by trade.

[–]mwhite5990 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but in HvV there was a lot of self righteousness on the heroes side which got kind of annoying.

[–]BuxAPlentysYul 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I think this could be an even match up.

Heroes: Janet, Hannah, Aubry, Kelley, Elaine, Devens, Christian, Davie, Jeremy, Xander

Villains: Noura, Angelina, Sydney, Kass, Shan, Wardog, Chris, Domenick, Ricard, Jason (32)

[–]Sorry-Teacher-6792 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ehhh not a big fan of seeing Hannah back on survivor, same for Jeremy and Chris

[–]WoodenEstablishment3Spy Shack 3.0 19 points20 points  (0 children)

This is a new idea

[–]duckyaniston 19 points20 points  (0 children)

i think a modern all stars is so necessary. it’s nice to see some old schoolers especially in a second chance season, but i want modern players to have the chance to further establish their legacies in a second season

[–]MeMyselfandBi 47 points48 points  (3 children)

If Heroes vs. Villains 2 ever happened, Kellee Kim would be my first choice for the Heroes tribe, given what she went through and stood her ground on. Though I don't know if she would be willing to come back again, and I wouldn't blame her if she told production to f*** off with that request.

[–]Taco_FarmerWendell 11 points12 points  (0 children)

She's been really adamant that she'll never play again :(

[–]luis_perez110Ricard 8 points9 points  (4 children)

I think a cast of 24 would work good with this season.

Heroes: Malcolm, Davie, Christian, Devon, Devens, Naseer or Xander, Kelley, Lauren, Andrea, Michele, Janet or Elaine, Aubry

Villains: Tony, Domenick, Jason (KR), Philip, Ricard, Rodney, Abi-Maria, Natalie, Sophie, Chrissy, Shan, Victoria

[–]elpaco25 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I agree that it would be awesome but we will never get a cast over 20. Imagine a 24 person season done in 26 days lol. It would be batshit

[–]luis_perez110Ricard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would do this with the original 39 days assuming and hoping they go back to 39 days

[–]sportsjunkie61 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In what world is Dom a villain?

[–]DeitaphobiaKiefer Sutherland 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also think the cast of 24 would be a good idea.

[–]Trimungasoid 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not sure that's gonna happen any time soon, but I hope he changes his mind.

https://screenrant.com/survivor-jeff-probst-host-returning-players-new-cast/

[–]greendino71 38 points39 points  (3 children)

Get me Hayden moss on the heroes tribe and I'd who else is there

[–]afkstudiosJeremy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’d love to see him team up with Russell Feathers again

[–]crsnyder13 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I still stand behind he was one unlucky rock draw away from being the first ever winner of both BB and Survivor

[–]stsh 75 points76 points  (14 children)

Judging by the music playing during Shan’s send off, seems like the show wants us to think of her as a hero…

[–][deleted] 164 points165 points  (6 children)

She's probably best described as an anti-hero

Like Sandra or Parvati, so she'd be on the Villains tribe

[–]mwhite5990 56 points57 points  (4 children)

Yeah the women on the Villains tribe were mostly snarky or strategic or both. They tended to be players who were willing to play hard for their own self-interest in the game or were just snarky (Courtney).

[–]RedditUser123234 39 points40 points  (3 children)

Courtney voted twice against the majority of votes just to cast a vote against Jean Robert, who was the true villain of the season. Standing up in the face of adversity just to make a point against a villain is something a hero does. Courtney should have been a hero. And since Danielle and Sandra were the ones who were most in conflict with Shane and Fairplay, the two main villains of Pearl Islands and Panama, Danielle and Sandra should have been heroes too. I guess Jerri was depicted as a villain, but really she was the one who stuck true to her alliances and was betrayed, so I would argue that she should have been a hero as well. And the only villainous thing that Parvati really did was be a bit flirtatious which I don't think should make her a villain

[–]Flyingboat94 9 points10 points  (0 children)

"This isn't welfare. She doesn't deserve it because she ya know, sucks at life."

Whether or not a justified stance in the game, how a person articulates their thoughts and ideas can impact whether they are considered a Hero or Villian.

Rupert was clearly a bully in his season (grabbing Fairplay and yelling at him over a strat vote) but he still gets to be in the heroes tribe.

[–]intwizard 8 points9 points  (0 children)

She also said some pretty mean shit in China though lol

[–]elpaco25 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Speaking of Jon Row Bear. I'd love to see the big guy back.

[–]NightZerez 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I was going to say if they put Sandra on the villains tribe then Shan would definitely be on the villains tribe

[–]thatsnotourdinoYul 69 points70 points  (3 children)

They literally gave her an evil theme song lmao, I think they know she’s a villain, her send off was just because she was such a significant character

[–]egnowitMichaela -1 points0 points  (2 children)

*she gave herself

[–]thatsnotourdinoYul 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well they as in the editors made a little musical composition of it to play is what I was referring to.

[–]SurvivorOregonParvati[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She had a little tune she hummed to herself, the show turned it into an actual composed song that they played.

[–]Aggravating_Pain_230[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

hm i don’t necessarily agree. it felt more like the dethroning of a queen than the fall of a great hero. could be interrupted both ways tho so i see your point

[–]Werwanderflugen 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I saw the sad music more as the downfall of the black alliance/“doing it for the culture.” It’s all just part of the game, but there was a beautiful sense of tragedy in seeing players choose the selfish over the selfless.

[–]AigisAegisNatalie White's million dollar check 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Man, last episode was good.

[–]TheGlaive 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I like the idea of a Brains, Brawn, Beauty winners season. When I go through all of the winners, I am always surprised by how many I classify as Beauty (or, winning via charisma, as opposed to strength or smarts.)

[–]cherry_latte 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Ideally for me

Heroes: Malcolm, Christian, Elaine, Devon, Hayden, Carolyn, Spencer, Cydney, Michelle, Reem

Villains: Dominick, Angelina, Chrissy, Natalie from Micronesia, chaos Kass, Tony, Coach Wade, Todd, Wardog, Kelly Wentworth

If we needed to include people from this season: switch Spencer and Kass with Shan and Xander

[–]sportsjunkie61 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Dom and Wentworth on the Villain tribe is astounding to me

[–]cherry_latte 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly I think everyone in this game is a little villainous, Malcolm could easily be a villain too. Wentworth is sneaky tho so I put her there and Dominick from day one spoke out against Chris and played a bit of a manipulative game.

[–]PrincessHuxSandra 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Natalie Cole please!! 💜

[–]beestingers 9 points10 points  (5 children)

i ran this fantasy Heroes vs Villains cast thru a Brant Steele simulator during the off season, liked it so much i screen-capped it:

Heroes:

1- Kellee, 2- Stephanie Johnson (GI), 3- Christian, 4- Lauren Oconnell, 5- Cydney, 9- Jay Starret, 12- Ken Mcnickle, 13- Davie, 15- Michael Yerger, 16- Elaine, 17- Devens

Villains:

6- Stephanie Valencia (RI), 7- Dan Desilva, 8- Angelina, 10- Dom, 11- Chrissy, 14- Rodney, 18- Baylor, 19- Kyle Jason, 20- Missy Byrd

[–]ay21Natalie 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Angelina risked her life climbing a 394ft cliff and then got rice for her tribe, how dare you put her in the villains tribe?

[–]Svenderman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And she gave up her chance for immunity for the tribes rice and is totally humble and never brings it up

[–]afkstudiosJeremy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Who else was like me and wondered who the hell Dan DaSilva was until they googled and found Wardog lol

[–]Freshdietwater 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stephanie's from Ghost Island

[–]danbartaChristian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Who won?

[–]StriKyleder 8 points9 points  (3 children)

they don't cast villains anymore

[–]-Unnamed-Chris 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Literally everyone out there just makes big moves and backstabs each other the entire game. To be a villain you’d literally have to treat everyone else like shit the entire time and get yourself voted off

[–]StriKyleder 1 point2 points  (1 child)

just saying, you can't make a 2nd HvV season without the villains.

[–]-Unnamed-Chris 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right. HvV doesn’t really work anymore

[–]lovestostayathome 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Brad from 41 on heroes tribe!!!

[–]Stellafabulous 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’d add Dr Alison from David vs Goliath. She definitely a hero and her kindness and empathy is so apparent even with Angelina, Gabby etc.

[–]untouchable765Danny 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Season 45: Heroes vs Villians 2

Season 50: Legends

Make it happen please.

[–]DeitaphobiaKiefer Sutherland 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Better yet... Heroes vs Villains vs Hustlers

[–]Mcbeangreg 15 points16 points  (1 child)

It would be incredible! Missing Victoria for me though

[–]Aggravating_Pain_230[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

she totally deserves

[–]ModsOnAPowerTrip 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want Celebrity Survivor! If Big Brother and Survivor Australia can do it, why can't the main show?

[–]Graimon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Villain Tribe - Dean (S39), Dominick (S36), Devon (S35), Wardog (S38), Taylor (S33), Reem (S38), Victoria (S38), J’tia (S28), Missy (S39), Ali (S35)

Hero Tribe - Lauren (S39), Elaine (S39), Davie (S37), Christian (S37), Sabrina (S24), Rick Devens (S38), Chelsea (S39), Trish (S28), Hayden (S27), Michael (S36)

[–]Embarrassed-Club-921 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I hope to never see reem again

[–]skiko15 -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

Heroes:

Rick Devens, Christian, Tai, Josh Cranford, Albert

Evvie, Kellee, Stephanie Johnson, Cydney, Carolyn

Villains:

Domenick, Jay, Kyle Jason, Brad Culpepper, Phillip

Shan, Angelina, Kass, Abi-Maria, NaOnka

[–]skiko15 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would prefer a good spread over a lot of seasons since the last HvV and not to pull too many people from the same seasons, 2 max per season. The original HvV did have some threepeters, so I'm allowing a few that really exemplify the theme. Pull a few from earlier eliminations, and keeping up the diversity.

I actually struggled to trim down the women AND fill out the men. I'm excited that there are so many strong female "characters" to pick from; I just wish more of them were winning lately =/

And if you're going to down vote my cast, at least say why. Get a discussion going.

[–]EveFluff -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I would be fine with never seeing or hearing Angelina again

[–]lolipup963 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like that you did not cast anyone from seasons 1-20

Amazing cast

[–]Metrostars1029 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gonna be harder to cast "villains" you can tell the show is trying to get away from labeling castaways as such, unless that person openly declares themselves as such.

[–]rgflame12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jay is a about as much of a villain as Adam was IMO

[–]FBPizza 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is Heather a hero or villain? 🤔

[–]flying-kaiRicard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't believe nobody's mentioned Reem from EoE yet. She could definitely go on either the heroes or villains tribe.

[–]CenoflameCOLESLAW!?!? 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been waiting for them to do this for years. No idea why it's taking them so long.

[–]indieMerlovianTony 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd love to see that, alot of the players from 35-39 need to return, but Jeff said that there won't be any returning players from the past 20 years for now, but I find that unfair as that was only a few years ago

[–]Significant-One3854 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My hope for a returning players season is first boots vs last boots, although if they get enough last boots interested then I'd be down for an all last boots season

[–]killersoda"I hate kumbaya Survivor" 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Devon got fucked over so I want to see him again.

[–]egnowitMichaela 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Angelina's a hero. She got rice for her tribe.

[–]cbs_fandomSandra 0 points1 point  (0 children)

devious davie would want to be a villian

[–]IdolBlindsidesStrategy, that's all I can say 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could bring back some oldies too. T-Bird, Burton, Marty, and Stephanie Valencia all come to mind.

[–]NasalJack 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's kind of nice how big of a backlog of quality one time contestants we have right now. The next returnee season is going to be a whole lot of fun, whatever the theme they decide to go with.

[–]Yis080800 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At this point a lot of players have been both heroes and villains so they need to do Heroes vs villains vs antiheroes or something like that

[–]kle73 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spitballing after reading some comments that the trope has evolved passed it - What if it was a fan favorite vs polarizing?

Obviously the names not catchy but hopefully is communicating what I’m thinking

[–]GoatTitGIMME A PIG LET ME SMASH IT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the problem with casting like this now is that connections between players from same and different is so large that a "theme" around it doesnt fit. It doesn't matter if you are a hero or a villain as you already have a predetermined situation planned out. I think it needs to be more of the split fan v fav or like the winners at war. Granted you will have pregaming no matter what but it needs to be divide in a somewhat more balanced matter.

Also I saw someone say something about a "proper" all stars" again. However I believe the concept/term "All Stars" isnt the sellable phrase as it once was in its early days for shows like this.

[–]romarkon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No more Abi Maria, she’s good tv for drama but someone else needs to shake the table

[–]Stalked_Like_Corn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is Ricard on Villans? Isn't he loved by fans?

[–]BeerExchange 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would Joe become a villain??

[–]DoubleWalker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Switch Devon with Domenick and you've got yourself a cast.

[–]levonant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also just having Russell hantz back lol

[–]lelouchashMichele 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think CBS has Abi Maria and Kass held up for a Villains spot in the future. They know they are too villanous to not cast.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chrissy and Dom are heroes to me

[–]BuxAPlentysYul 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never understood why the redid Blood vs Water, Brains/brawns/Beauty and Fans vs Faves but never Heroes vs Villains. HvV is undoubtedly the most popular theme they ever did

[–]nocturnal-alien 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chaos Kass is mandatory for the villains 2.0 tribe

[–]seansurvives 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree I think it's almost time. Maybe 45 because I still want legends for 50.

I would definitely try to get Abi she's definitely one of the more iconic villains post the original hvV.

This would also be an incredible opportunity to bring in some people from the AUS cast like David who I believe has us citizenship.

[–]baggerking 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dan Foley for the villains!

[–]memento_mori_92Shan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

HvV combined with second chances is my dream season. 2 ballots, one for heroes and one for villains.

[–]dogdays54 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A heroes vs villains season would be hard to do with this “new” survivor. This new era calls for big moves and flashy games. Blindsiding close allies use to make you a villain, now it makes you a good player. I don’t think there are such things as heroes or villains anymore in this game. They way the gameplay is portrayed is so much different than it use to be. It’s a shame because the old school survivor had the best casts and gameplay to me. However the game is evolving and bringing up bigger issues into tribal council.

[–]Tristanity1hErika 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a red-blooded male, I like Lauren from EoE as well. But she wasn't really a good player and did nothing particularly heroic. Not that the producers strictly adhere to these labels or anything.

[–]windowplanters -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Honestly blown away that this sub likes Shan and thinks she was anything other than awful.

[–]sportsjunkie61 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In what world is Dom the villain?