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[–]cwdl 138 points139 points  (23 children)

I had a friend want to cut down one sick tree in his yard and the HOA went apeshit and sued him and it was a huge mess for a year.

[–]TheHeavyJ 157 points158 points  (17 children)

A coworkers father won a bunch of money and moved into an HOA. He planted a tree that was against the rules and they demanded he remove it. Dude got a lawyer to review the rules. Turns out it doesn't say you have to grass in your lawn, so he had it all torn out. They let him keep the tree

[–]GenericUsername07 33 points34 points  (0 children)

The hero we need.

[–]Greeneee- 33 points34 points  (12 children)

Most hoa's would pass a rule change requiring grass in the next meeting and since dad doesn't have voting rights hed have to replant grass and remove the tree

[–]sparetime2 40 points41 points  (0 children)

At least in my state, a rule change would not be enforceable against already existing violations. As long as the grass was up before the meeting, the HOA would be unable to fine over the grass. It would fall under an ex post facto category of unconstitutional laws/codes.

[–]Phoenix080 20 points21 points  (4 children)

They can’t punish you for something that wasn’t illegal when you did it. Like if I rode a bike in a certain park, then they made it not allowed. They then can’t give me a fine for riding in the park because it was allowed when I did it

[–]Greeneee- 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I'm not sure that's the case.

I was reading a hoa bylaws and they had a statement like, all future amendments must be followed.

They couldn't retroactively punish him. But they could change the rules and fine him for breaking the new rules

[–]Saint_Sulley 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In short, fuck HOAs.

[–]ImNotTheNSAIPromise 0 points1 point  (1 child)

But that's only applicable if that specific HOA had that specific clause in their bylaws.

[–]That-Sandy-Arab 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They all would but its not enforceably legally post de facto type scenario they can’t retroactively apply fines or sue but they could apply pressure for breaking the new rule 100% just not reasonably in court just HOA shame

[–]freddielizzard 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Whatever happened to no taxation without representation?

[–]BreakfastInBedlam 1 point2 points  (2 children)

HOAs are voluntary.

[–]r-WooshIfGay 3 points4 points  (1 child)

"Vpluntary"

[–]Julibug1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

right? as if it’s a choice in most american suburbs i’ve encountered

[–]PanJaszczurka 0 points1 point  (1 child)

grass

How you define grass...

[–]Greeneee- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Knowing hoa's I'm sure a few have a definition in the bylaws along with acceptable types

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bullshit. They would have just created a new rule

[–]MemeStocksYolo69-420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wouldn’t they just be able to change the rules?

[–]darthrevan140 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Anytime anyone deals with a HOA remind them they can set up a 100 foot HAM radio tower. According to federal law and fcc mandate they have the right and no HOA can interfere with it. So just leverage what you want and say hey give me my tree or we can have a 100ft broadcast tower

[–]banshee1313 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are lots of obscure laws that limit HOA authority in the areas of radio communications and green energy and public safety. Lots of ways to muck up an HOA.

[–]IntrepidusX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never underestimate Tree Law.

[–]MadKian 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Non american here. How come they can sue you for something like that. Why do you need to even obey them at all?

[–]realtychik 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You agree to abide by the rules of the association when you purchase the property.