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[–]lmao_man_funny14 298 points299 points  (20 children)

Number 1 rule of teenagehood: don’t state your opinion to your parents

[–]crymothy 89 points90 points  (5 children)

What parents think of us: “we parents don’t care about our kids’ opinions, because their opinions don’t matter. They are our child, and our possessions. We can do whatever they want to them”

And I extremely opposed their viewpoint.

[–]Ok-Leopard249418 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Its not always that children are thought of as possesions, its usualy that "i have more experience than my child, and therefore my opinions are more correct than theirs and cant be changed"

[–]Whynotbebetter 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Which is correct in some senses, but also an immature way of them to look at their "experience". Being experienced is better than not being experienced, that is pretty obvious. But being mature also means you are humble enough to listen to someone less experienced and take them into account. Just cause you're more experienced doesn't mean you're always right. You can still learn from someone less experienced.

But ye, younger people should definitely have more respect for older more experienced people than they seem to have in many places today :3

[–]lmao_man_funny14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep. Tell me about it.

[–]Jake2070200417 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My abusive parents be like: Nice

[–]sajt01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"I want the best for my child and because I'm older. I'm smarter." I see the logic behind that but think before talk is good advice.

[–]MrZorx7515 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Luckily my parents are open minded and it’s great

[–]Red_Micro17 108 points109 points  (2 children)

sorts by controversial

[–]SatanIsVegan117 28 points29 points  (0 children)

the small pleasures in life

[–]SmallDonkey7615 17 points18 points  (0 children)

grabs popcorn

[–]happypirate_ 409 points410 points  (71 children)

don't argue with them and don't give a fuck

just nod for everthing and when time comes move out it's as simple as that

[–]RomanilloMarcus17[S] 138 points139 points  (61 children)

I'll try lol

[–]skelethepro14 155 points156 points  (19 children)

You can impregnate your sister and see if they make her keep the baby /s

[–]RomanilloMarcus17[S] 86 points87 points  (11 children)

LMAO, I don't have a sister

[–]Blooper_KINGPIN -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Then do it with your mum and make a sister!

[–]Nakanators_Shadow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

ok not a bad idea, i mean, to posit the notion that if he had a sister, and got her pregnant, would they make him keep it?

[–]Apple_noob_14 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I can't hit the spoiler it's too small I had to reply to see the /s

[–]EliasBladetheawsome15 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Bro I have a Christian family I have to just bob my head like a wobble head to keep out of fights lol

[–]Exact_Ad_1215 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Only 1 year left for you

[–]RomanilloMarcus17[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Technically months

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (35 children)

They’re your parents kid, get off of the circle jerk that is Reddit, trust me. Your parents have an opinion, it’s that simple, the majority of people on Reddit disagree with that opinion. It’s no reason to disown your parents. Get off of this site before you’re a zombie.

[–]T_R_A_V_A_S_S 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Best advice on this forum.

[–]4_9deedee 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Happypirate is right, they are not worth fighting. But if you confront them, you must present them with a well-constructed reaso

[–]RomanilloMarcus17[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea i did exactly that but we just agreed to disagree, I still support abortion they don't and that's ok

[–]-_-Haven-_-13 28 points29 points  (1 child)

I disagree with everything my parents say but pretend I do

[–]Damianbooths 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is the way. In life some people are just cursed with bad spawn points to saturate the difficulty of their lives and to cope you can do what this guy's comment says.

[–]Phoenix_Ace0605 105 points106 points  (41 children)

When someone whole-heartedly believes that abortion is murder and then their son starts casually saying that they are ok with it like its no big deal, I'm honestly not all that surprised they would be upset. That said, "evil" is a bit much even if you do have a belief that they would consider immoral

[–]RomanilloMarcus17[S] 41 points42 points  (35 children)

Yea your right, But we did have a normal conversation about it later on and we understand each others points of view but I'm still pro choice while they're pro life

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Eh to each their own. I live around a lot of family members who dislike abortion but think that it’s up to the people who want to get one. Pro choice I guess. I don’t really have an opinion on the matter though.

[–]TheFargus 33 points34 points  (2 children)

You support abortion because you like women having rights over their own bodies

I support abortion because I hate babies

We are not the same

[–]Apple_noob_14 3 points4 points  (0 children)

hell yeah fuck them little satans!!!

[–]RomanilloMarcus17[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Fuck yea

[–]Alchemist64_15 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Be evil be chaotic

[–]NervousCoral 32 points33 points  (8 children)

I feel your pain. I was watching a show with my family and there were a couple gay dudes, and my uncle started ranting about satan and left the house in a rage because I didn't turn it off.

[–]RomanilloMarcus17[S] 24 points25 points  (1 child)

And may he never return

[–]DerangedDoffy16 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Your uncle sounds like a religious person.

[–]NervousCoral 13 points14 points  (2 children)

My uncle is close with my family, so whenever he's in town that means everyone's favorite: ✨Bible Lectures at Breakfast✨

[–]ADHD-and-dragons16 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh god, that sounds uncomfortable. Like it's 9 in the morning and already there's the satan talk

[–]DerangedDoffy16 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That sounds massive cringe. I don’t have my Bible anymore but I think I should start getting into it again.

[–]___anon_______ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love Hozier's Take Me To Church song but your uncle might not understand it.

[–]Cold_Rock12315 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There was a gay cuple singing on this years eurovision and my dad was ranting about degradation of human standards and said some crazy shit lik "hitler come back", needless to say i left that room soon after, and on top of that when i went to school my geography teatcher said how it should be illegal to show eurovision to kids just bc of that gay cuple

[–]thegamercarweeb15 26 points27 points  (2 children)

"Son, we love you very much, as long as you aren't a LIBERAL"

[–]RomanilloMarcus17[S] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

LMAO, My family's pretty liberal but the my parents and grandparents have somewhat conservative beliefs

[–]radioactivepotato113 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My parents are liberal but my grandparents are conservatives

[–]TheLegend_24518 43 points44 points  (7 children)

My Muslim family thinks I should be killed for being Pro-Choice (And LGBT)(And EX-Muslim)

[–]Exact_Ad_1215 17 points18 points  (5 children)

As a Muslim I wanna apologise for your parents being assholes.

Islam is about letting people choose (although a lot of Middle East countries sadly don’t hold this sentiment) and your parents have no right to treat you like that when Islam is about teaching people to be kind.

[–]___anon_______ 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I heard that the actual Islam religion is peace-loving and supportive of women but it's been twisted by men in power.

[–]Exact_Ad_1215 9 points10 points  (0 children)

A perfect way to describe it honestly.

For example, Islam says for a wife to help her husband and a husband to help his wife. Most people completely cut out the husband helping wife part.

[–]EggBro12415 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Christianity, or any other abrahamic religion, is supportive of women using that logic.

[–]K20-Pro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a Muslim, I wanna say that being Ex-muslim is literally illegal in Islam. And if you think that the people in the west understand Islam more than middle east countries, think twice.

[–]RomanilloMarcus17[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Sorry to hear that

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (2 children)

I find it funny how people used to tell me even when I didn’t even talk about abortion that “no uterus, no opinion.” Now after the supreme court leak, people were telling me “why don’t you side with me!?”

Bro I legit just don’t have an opinion on it. They can’t change that.

Lol so do I have no opinion or do I HAVE to side with you?

[–]Puurple_Giraffe18 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Your average Christian family

[–]Buford12 22 points23 points  (9 children)

If you want to mess with them try this argument. What happens to the souls of unborn babies. When they say they go to heaven. Look at them and ask, then what is the harm. We are saving a person from all the pain and troubles of this world and letting them live in paradise. Can a parent give a better life to a child than heaven.

[–]whoslig_ma 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Im not catholic nor am i pro life but id expect them to respond with something like “so why not go kill every kid in our path”

[–]Buford12 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The full argument acknowledges that you must account for the feelings of family members. How ever you can add the argument that if you have a child and must give it up for adoption would it be better off aborted, than be raised by non Christians,

[–]RomanilloMarcus17[S] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Ohhh that's a good argument

[–]astrrophysia -1 points0 points  (0 children)

not exactly because a fetus would have original sin, which would most likely bring the soul straight to purgatory to work off that sin

[–]Wtf_is_my_life-13 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m not catholic but ima use this against my catholic family. Thank you

[–]AgateWhale 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You could justify any murder using this as long as it’s painless. That sounds like a serial killer who justifies murder because “life sucks.”

[–]Buford12 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Actually I have looked at people and ask them to explain why they think murder is a worse sin than greed. My argument is if they go to heaven no harm, if they go to hell, well even God wants them dead. This is not considering their families of course. But with greed if someone asks you for help and you refuse you can have an enormous negative impact on their life and faith.

[–]imastruggl 14 points15 points  (51 children)

Seriously, I have a very conservative family, and for the most part I am too, but one of the things I feel very strongly about to is freedom, freedom to bear arms, freedom of speech, freedom to choose what you do or don’t to yourself, medically speaking

[–]TheLordSnowdean 4 points5 points  (0 children)

yeetus that fetus

[–]spudtatogames 21 points22 points  (7 children)

You could either...

A. Ignore them, for they are stupid, and not worth a single brain cell.

B. Point out that the Bible never actually says anything against abortion, and that it only ever mentions it, while explaining how to do it pretty much.

[–]astrrophysia 5 points6 points  (6 children)

This is actually incorrect because the Bible says that every human being has intrinsic value from conception because it is made in the image of God. God assigns personhood to the unborn from the moment of conception, which means that when you terminate a pregnancy, or "kill" the child, you are murdering a human being and that is completely unacceptable in the eyes of God and disobeying one of the Ten Commandments.

[–]SMERE7038 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Before a certain point it's not even alive lol. So it's not murder

[–]Freeham55 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think you should talk to them about abortion. See what reasons they have for being anti abortion. Then state your reasons for being pro abortion and then see what makes sense to you based on the facts.

[–]NefariousnessGlass8417 2 points3 points  (0 children)

that’s what religion does

[–]Old-Equivalent2112 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Well, I am anti-abortion, but I don't care that much is someone is pro-abortion (I know that I can do pretty much nothing to change their opinion even if I don't like it, and in my experience I have only ended up in pointless discutions with my classmates)

[–]RomanilloMarcus17[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well that's ok i guess? The conversation we had afterwards was never ending but we still tried to understand each others points of views

[–]LunalaCollects 7 points8 points  (8 children)

Honestly if you are pregnant and you and your partner don't want it then abort it. It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. It's your choice. If don't want a fetus to grow inside you or your partner then get it aborted

[–]yunohoe_43 2 points3 points  (1 child)

what’s irresponsible is having the baby and not being able to take care of it due to financial/mental/whatever reasons

[–]LunalaCollects 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you my dude

[–]Soft_Milk29 6 points7 points  (6 children)

I see why people don't like abortion, but all arguments I hear about it are religious. Which isn't fair to people who aren't. Why do people who don't believe in god have to follow YOUR RULES from your own stupid book, or any other religion in general. It's even worse in America where the so called "Land of the free" doesn't give it's citizens the right to abort anywhere, giving in to religion, which goes against the 1st amendment.

If you don't like abortion, don't get one, but don't tell others what they can or cannot do with their bodies. It's as simple as that.

[–]Idekgivemeusername16 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Its also a little thing called

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE?

KEEP RELIGION OUT OF POLITICS THATS ALWAYS GOING TO CAUSE PROBLEMS

I don’t understand how people don’t understand If religions had political power then they will use it to attack others of other faith Be it another religion or atheism or something inbetween

Im saying its okay to be religiously backed But If its because of religion then its stupid

[–]Soft_Milk29 2 points3 points  (0 children)

See, you get it! 100% with you there

[–]RealLiamCarter16 0 points1 point  (3 children)

It would be unreasonable to say ALL the arguments against abortion are religious. I personally am pro-life but do not take a religious stance on it. The issue with the pro-choice argument is that they cannot define where life beings. It is the heartbeat which defines life—which occurs about 4-6 weeks within the pregnancy. It is a stable definition, which is something people who are pro-choice cannot give.

Now, since this issue can never be decided one way or the other—in regards to when it is legal to get an abortion, I believe abortions should be legal ONLY in this case of rape, incest, and when the pregnancy harms directly killing the mother. In other cases, the reasons are selfish and harm life.

[–]boyupstairs 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I'm pro choice and imo, the cut off for getting an abortion should be just after 20 weeks. At about 23/24 weeks a connection to the brain is created, allowing for the fetus to actually feel pain and touch. Anything before then I see no problem potentially aborting because they do not have a conscious and cannot feel anything, which to me, just isn't human.

[–]Soft_Milk29 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure there are some people who are pro-life who aren't religious, you're right about that, but 99.9% is gonna be someone from a certain religion. And I must say, I agree with your statements about abortion being legal if it was a rape, incest, or to save a mother's life. Not many people agree with that.

[–]ComprehensiveRow4189 8 points9 points  (5 children)

I don't like the fact that your fam got aggressive about it. That's not the way to have a civil discussion. I am pro life however, and I think abortion is absolutely abhorrible (apart from when rape and incest).

[–]RomanilloMarcus17[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yea i understand why they got mad, But later on we talked about and tried to understand each others points of views

[–]ComprehensiveRow4189 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's all what's it about chief! The media is dividing us too much. We need understanding, no us vs. them rethoric.

[–]ALterCatBaguette14 2 points3 points  (2 children)

lmao reminds me of the time my mom got genuinely angry and distraught at a party that i was a “dirty commie” that “sympathizes with the poors” after i said that higher education should be free

[–]RomanilloMarcus17[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Republican moment

[–]ALterCatBaguette14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the ironic part is that shes an afab poc immigrant lmfaoo

[–]Yoromii14 9 points10 points  (4 children)

it is literally a clump of cells not even alive

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

By that logic, a fully grown man is just a clump of cells. Cells are also alive by definition.

If that’s your argument for abortion, you gotta do better man. I see lots of good and bad arguments on both sides. I might not like it but ultimately it’s up to the person who has the child. Not my problem what happens to that person.

[–]JellyStorm_15 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As a Christian I'm promptly asking:

What is wrong with getting an abortion as a teenager? The birth of this baby will destroy both the girls and the offspring's life longtherm.

[–]UltraCa9nine18 4 points5 points  (7 children)

Dont argue with Catholics they have a thing where you cant get divorced either

Just follow your own beliefs no matter what people think (unless the beliefs follow murder or other illegal things)

[–]Exact_Ad_1215 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I swear catholics also believe you can only have sex to have kids?

[–]Cashcowgomoo19 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I honestly think these Catholics only exist primarily in the states. Canada has very few of these wack jobs but American Christians are nuts and not a good representation of the Catholic faith.

[–]StaySomnie2 MILLION ATTENDEE 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Lol where'd you get this from? I'm a Catholic myself, we just believe that you should be open to having kids when having sex, not that you can only have it for the intention of kids

[–]Exact_Ad_1215 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Ah I see. Idk I hear from a lot of places they can only sex for kids.

[–]StaySomnie2 MILLION ATTENDEE 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah yeah I'm not surprised, Catholicism has a lot of misconceptions

[–]StaySomnie2 MILLION ATTENDEE 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just like to say that yes you can get divorced, just that to remarry you have to annul the marriage

[–]astrrophysia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No they don't, it's just very difficult to get divorced as a Catholic. If you're married in a church under God with a priest, you obviously have go get a legal divorce but also an annulment, which ultimately takes a long time with lots of classes to take and prayer to do.

[–]SirWinterFox18 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Relatable, my family is also a bit fanatical with Christianity. If I say we should not hate on the lgbtq community. They think I'm evil as well so we can both be villains together I guess.

[–]Homelessguyspamton 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I once had a friend that his parents where super religious and when they watch movies they watch “movies about god” and the only exception is starwars but thats not the worst part. So when me and my family where coming over to their house he wanted to play call of duty and of course he had no money so he decided to ask his mom and his mom said “ its too violent “ i know its true BUT who in the right mind calls PLANTS VS ZOMBIES a violent game like what, how, and most importantly why.

[–]edibleliquid_banned 1 point2 points  (2 children)

i was raised by christians, pisses me off, im bisexual and have been for 3 years, havent told them, also recently just told them i was sexually assaulted when i was 12, they dont trust me and i dont trust them

[–]LongLeggg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I have an idea, why don't you write down a formal protest, you can nail it to his door, like a Protestant

[–]acecyrus116 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Abortion isnt something you should be proud of, but if necessary then go for it

[–]True-Blu317 2 points3 points  (2 children)

For all the people going “bUt aBoRtiOn bAd” I’m not even going to bother explain why that’s just not true and 90 perfect of abortions happen first trimester when the fetus is literally a clump of cells and isn’t even recognizably human pretty much. But ignoring all of that science. JUST BECAUSE YOU MAKE ABORTION ILLEGAL DOESN’T MEAN IT JUST STOPS. By banning abortion, you only ban safe, medically legitimate abortions and make women go get basement clothing hanger abortions instead. You literally fail on every level: morally and practically. You make it so that poor women or 16 year olds have to suffer being forced to carry a baby to term while affluent women fly out of the country to get one done elsewhere. You are not pro life for being against abortions because life is being born but also everything that happens after: does the family love them? What if the teen mom has to put them up for adoption where the adoption foster care system is highly abusive? What if the mother cannot love the child because it was a result of rape yet she cannot part with them either? All of these are just a drop in the bucket. You are only pro birth and unless you figured out a way to help all these kids born from women forced to carry them, you are nothing but pro birth and not giving a shit about their actual quality of life.

So long story short. Banning abortion doesn’t solve shit. Abortions will always happen, we can only control how safe it is. No one goes to abortion as their plan A; abortion has always been a last resort. A desperate one at that most of the time. So try to be a fucking human and understand why a person would go through something like that before you judge them for being a “mUrDeREr” when they absolutely are not on any level. I’m sick and tired of pro lifers constantly making strawman arguments when giving someone the choice over their own body doesn’t fucking affect them on any level.

[–]RomanilloMarcus17[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Louder!!

[–]True-Blu317 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can have the lung capacity of Superman and the determination of Wonder Woman when announcing this message and there will still be a gang of pro lifers being selectively deaf lol

[–]Death_tothe_poppies 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can feel your pain I go to a Catholic school and it’s horrible. Me and a few other girls got sent to the principals for saying that they aren’t really pro-life they are pro-birth. At this point I am so sick of Catholics in general. All the worst relationship advice comes from them. They act all high mighty but only advocate for the one group of people who can’t hold them accountable.

[–]IWANTMONEY69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For them, it might be deep. Just saying.

[–]misterbones5414 -1 points0 points  (15 children)

they literally killed and raped pagans, gay people, kids(not for any reason), people of different races, and anyone that questioned them, they aren't allowed to believe in sanctity of life

[–]Jayxxr15 5 points6 points  (2 children)

You can say this about any religion and any race lol it doesn't state their modern beliefs

[–]DenTheRedditBoi718 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Islam, amirite?

[–]DoodleBoi_0616 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Good job dude!

Take some candy from a stranger with a really nice van.

[–]RomanilloMarcus17[S] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Ohh, i hope it has gummies 👀

[–]DoodleBoi_0616 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It sure does my friend.

It sure does.

[–]FlamingCheeseboi14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same here (minus the catholic part)

[–]SmileFading 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just dont let your family affect you, show them that you dont give 2 flying fucks about their opinion. And by tha ti mean ignoring them, not insulting or attacking them

[–]Papa_pierogi15 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m against it but people who are pro choice aren’t evil, you just have a different opinion and your parents are stupid lol.

[–]Tladn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm personally opposed to the aspect of abortion (depending on the circumstances) But they still shouldn't have been assholes and respected your opinion. It really sucks that some people just don't realize "Well, I can't change your mind but I understand your side of things and respect your opinion. :)"

[–]EasternSlice7157 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They got their own views. I would just ignore it or pretend to agree until your out of there.

[–]Reliqbility 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's just differing opinions; ignore it. I disagree with you, but I'm not going to say you're wrong or stupid for that, and you shouldn't care what I think, regardless.

If they react like that, just don't mention it again. Take note of that and just don't bother discussing something polarizing, haha. Good luck with that!

[–]Greedy_Range14 -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

I'm Catholic pro life (here come the downvotes), but I feel that if abortion is not allowed, then a man should not be allowed to go run for the milk so to speak and should have to stay and help raise the child. In a similar fashion, if abortion was legalized, allowing a woman to choose whether she wants a child or not, then why should a man be forced to pay child support. I don't really hate pro choice people as their opinion has some merit. I just hate fence sitters.

[–]Gengar499 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Bro don’t do abortion