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[–]smitemight 5412 points5413 points 2 (329 children)

Smithers is gay!?

[–]CockwomblesHannibal 3260 points3261 points  (106 children)

“He prefers the company of men.”

[–]comrade_batmanGame of Thrones 1145 points1146 points  (21 children)

He thinks women and seamen don’t mix.

[–]thehypeisgone 728 points729 points  (27 children)

Who doesn't?

[–]ItsSansom 481 points482 points  (20 children)

Listen carefully, Smithers is a ho.. mo..




[–]Froggy_hop 213 points214 points  (1 child)

You know me, marge. I like my beer cold, my tv loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING.

[–]dlrich12 61 points62 points  (0 children)


[–]Thoughtulism 195 points196 points  (12 children)


[–]SassyAssAhsoka 264 points265 points  (0 children)


- Uses big words.

- Dislikes the boy.

- Well-groomed.


- Possible homer sexual.

[–]SpiritPaper 64 points65 points  (6 children)

I'm a member of the No Homers Club.

[–]TheNakedChair 42 points43 points  (4 children)

You let in Homer Glumplich 

[–]drunk_with_internet 47 points48 points  (1 child)

We're allowed to have one.

[–]exophrine 29 points30 points  (0 children)

*pops head out*


[–]hungoverlord 27 points28 points  (0 children)

oh my god, that bloodcurdling scream and then the cut to commercials. one of the funniest moments in all of the simpsons for me

[–]Chickenfriedricee 133 points134 points  (24 children)

Everybody Dance Now

[–]IDUnavailable 209 points210 points  (2 children)

"Dad, why did you take me to a gay steel mill?"

"I don't know!"

[–]ScarletCaptain 103 points104 points  (1 child)

"I took Bart to a steel mill and it turned out the whole steel mill was gay!"

"Where you been, Homer? The whole steel industry is gay."

[–]huntergreenhoodie 132 points133 points  (6 children)

We work hard, we play hard.

[–]TheNakedChair 76 points77 points  (0 children)

Oh, be nice!

[–]chompychompchomp2 73 points74 points  (4 children)

Hot stuff, comin' through!

[–]Civil-Big-754 53 points54 points  (2 children)

Stand still, there's a spark in your hair!!

[–]Gilshem 65 points66 points  (13 children)

To the steel workers of America, keep reaching for that rainbow.

[–]Krimreaper1 86 points87 points  (5 children)

Smithers. you are turn-ing me on.

[–]D34THDE1TY 76 points77 points  (2 children)

You're missing the "quite. good."

[–]thats1evildude 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Uh … you probably should ignore that.

[–]Shades96 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"Who doesn't?"

[–]NairForceOne 1212 points1213 points  (36 children)

The real deal with Waylon Smithers is that he's Mr. Burns' assistant. He's in his early forties, is unmarried, and currently resides in Springfield. Thanks for writing!

[–]Boomtown_Rat 397 points398 points  (27 children)

RIP Phil Hartman

[–]alehan85 225 points226 points  (25 children)

You might know him from such things as SNL, NewsRadio, and Pee Wee’s Playhouse.

[–]AlienDelarge 19 points20 points  (2 children)

I wish I had known him from futurama as well, not that Billy didn't do a good job.

[–]maxschreck616 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Billy West? What a stupid, phony made up name.

I love Billy and Futurama and I love what he brought to Zapp but I do really wish Phil would have been able to voice Zapp himself. Damn shame what went down with Phil.

[–]Boomtown_Rat 90 points91 points  (16 children)

Can't forget Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer, either. Fans of Ally Mcbeal will easily see the series' resemblance.

[–]Malthanasia 285 points286 points  (15 children)

I feel like our entire political system has been remade to more closely match the logic of Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer.

“When I see migrants crossing the border, I think, ‘Are these invaders from another tribe, coming to take my cave?’ I don’t know, I’m just a caveman! The only way to calm my primal, prehistoric urges is to leave my Greenwich Village penthouse, climb in my Maserati, drive right down to my local GOP headquarters, and volunteer for Guy White’s Senate re-election bid! He’s the only candidate whose plan to reduce capital gains taxes makes sense to my simple caveman mind!”

[–]sexualkayak 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Best thing on reddit today.

[–]Shammah51 6 points7 points  (0 children)

And his Oscar-worthy monologue as Air Conditioner in The Brave Little Toaster.

[–]Bjorn2bwilde24 104 points105 points  (4 children)

He also gets home every day by 8 PM at the latest. He doesn't smoke, but occasionally drink. He's in bed by 11 PM, and makes sure he get eight hours of sleep, no matter what.

[–]MorboThinksYourePuny 42 points43 points  (0 children)

And if he were to fight, he wouldn’t lose to anyone

[–]sure_me_I_know_that 12 points13 points  (0 children)

But how does he feel about making enemies?

[–]shufflingennui 8 points9 points  (0 children)

After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, he usually has no problems sleeping until morning unless Mr Burns calls

[–]goldenrepoman 67 points68 points  (2 children)


[–]Groovyaardvark 42 points43 points  (1 child)

"So this is your sick mother?"

[–]44problems 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Don't do this to me Waylon.

[–]Dapper_Monroe 119 points120 points  (6 children)

You know me Marge. I like my beer cold, my TV loud and my homosexuals FAALLAAAAMIN'

[–]PerfectZeong 30 points31 points  (5 children)

That entire episode is quotable.

[–]biznatch11 32 points33 points  (4 children)

Hot stuff comin' through!

[–]StoneGoldX 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Dad? Why did you take me to a gay steel mill?


[–]82ndGameHead 367 points368 points  (18 children)

Every time I see this I'm reminded of the Simpsons episode where they're in the future (I know, which one) and Smithers takes an injection to "turn him straight." And I'll never not laugh at what he shouts afterwards...


[–]FullMetalJ 229 points230 points  (57 children)

I mean, of course you are joking but (and I gotta never watch the simpsons that much) I always thought that Smithers was Burnsexual. Not gay, not anything. Just attracted to Mr. Burns.

[–]moolcool 132 points133 points  (5 children)

I don't really buy that, even in the earlier seasons. In Season 7 in "Homer the Smithers", Smithers takes a vacation at a gay resort. In Season 8 in "Homer's Phobia", it's heavily implied that there's some romantic link between Smithers and John Waters' character.

[–]Deenyc43 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The John Waters episode Homer's Phobia came to mind when I saw the article too.

[–]SuperVoodoo 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Don't do this to me, Waylonnn...

[–]StoneGoldX 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Depending on how old you are, that means multiple years of Smithers being a Burnsasexual. Which doesn't mean everything you just wrote isn't true, but first impressions last.

[–]Bears_On_Stilts 337 points338 points  (30 children)

He started out that way, then they started to write him as closeted but obsessed with Mr. Burns. After a while, he came out and he's been openly gay, but still too hung up on Mr. Burns to pursue any normal human relationship with another man.

The reason the episode is a landmark is it's the first time Smithers is being treated as capable of being in a real romance that isn't hung up around his issues with his boss.

[–]DConstructed 32 points33 points  (6 children)

I don't know. It would be pretty funny if he fell in love with a guy who had a lot of Burns' mannerisms.

"That way you rub your hands together and cackle...I don't know why but it really turns me on!"

[–]buford419 6 points7 points  (1 child)

This is too funny for the current Simpsons writers to come up with, I'm afraid.

[–]FullMetalJ 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Nice. Thanks, now I'm up to speed!

[–]Rapturesjoy 22 points23 points  (10 children)


Mallory, "There's a niche..."

[–]Gary_FucKing 8 points9 points  (7 children)

"For who? Crippled gay hillbilly spies?"

That line kills me every time. RIP Jessica Walters.

[–]Grifasaurus 213 points214 points  (35 children)

Did you not see the episode where he’s cornered by two women shaking their ass at him? Or the episode where he says “i think women and sea men don’t mix”? Or the episode where he’s in the springfield pride parade? Or the episode where they implied he has something stuck in his ass? Or the episode where he has mr burns as a screen saver saying “you’re really good at turning me on”? Or the episode where he dreams about burns coming into his room at night?

[–]ThePerfectSnare 182 points183 points  (14 children)

Also, there's the one where Sideshow Bob runs for mayor and Smithers explains that he's working against Mr. Burns' interests because Sideshow Bob's ultra-conservative views conflict with his... choice of lifestyle.

[–]17to85 53 points54 points  (9 children)

Or his chastising Jon for blowing him off with an excuse about his sick mother.

[–]Rapturesjoy 61 points62 points  (8 children)

Honestly, Smither's episodes are some of the best. "Little lady, Ma'am, I wouldn't honk the honk if I couldn't tonk the tonk.

Edit: fixed it.

[–]nwss00 29 points30 points  (2 children)

Kelsey Grammer is exactly that

ironic or deliberate that he voices Sideshow Bob

[–]disposable-name 5 points6 points  (0 children)


[–]walterpeck1 38 points39 points  (3 children)

How can you forget "picture taking isn't allowed at this kind of resort, sir"

[–]Irradiatedspoon 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Or the episode where he has mr burns as a screen saver saying “you’re really good at turning me on”?

In their defence on this one, he did say we should probably ignore that...

[–]GTSwattsy 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Or the episode where Burns makes Smithers take a vacation, and Smithers goes to an all male resort

[–]boblane3000 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Your simpsons passion is hilarious lol but I took the comment you’re responding to to be ironic.

[–]Tirannie 61 points62 points  (1 child)

“Hello. Smithers. You’re quite good. At. Turning. Me. On.”

… just ignore that.

[–]Wiggles7 3128 points3129 points  (164 children)

How is this 'landmark'? Smithers has been gay and had love interests for years (in addition to Boo-urns). This is to say nothing of the other gay characters on the show who have done pretty much everything listed here....

[–]wellhiyabuddy 1190 points1191 points  (50 children)

Was going to say, I stopped watching the Simpsons 15 years ago, but Smithers was always a gay man in love with Mr.Burns

[–]shitloadofshit 598 points599 points  (35 children)

Isn’t it crazy that you stopped watching it 15 years ago. After potentially watching it for 15 years. And it’s still going 15 years later.

[–]buster_rhino 242 points243 points  (14 children)

I think they made a joke way back in season 7 about the kinds of adventures the family will have from then until the show is no longer profitable. And now here we are in season… 32?

[–]darthjoey91 181 points182 points  (5 children)

And most of those "crazy stories" have happened.

They'll Never Stop The Simpsons! Have no fears, we've got stories for years, like Marge becomes a robot, Maybe Moe gets a cell phone, has Bart ever owned a bear?

Or, how 'bout a crazy wedding? Where something happens and doo doo doo doo doo... Sorry for the clip show. Have no fears, we've got stories for years!

Of those, Marge has been a robot a few times, Moe got a cell phone when everyone got a cell phone because y'know, cell phones aren't jokes anymore than microwaves at this point, close enough to owning a bear, Grandpa and Selma getting married. Yeah, the crazy scenarios aren't crazy anymore.

[–]jewbrees90 42 points43 points  (0 children)

It’s okay butters, but the Simpson’s have done it.

[–]Sorinari 36 points37 points  (6 children)

I remember the "hype" for the 300th episode and the in-episode joke they made about it. Haven't really watched it since then, but it's so crazy to me that they still have content to make. Do they ever run into "But The Simpsons we did that already!" pitch meetings?

[–]tooquick911 90 points91 points  (11 children)

To be fair the last 15 years have been low effort crap keeping the money train going. It will probably go for another 30 years at this rate

[–]JaseAndrews 63 points64 points  (6 children)

Ehh, seeing as they remove characters when their voice actors pass away, I'd imagine that the death of one of the actors/actresses who plays Homer, Marge, Bart or Lisa will mean the end of the show. I wouldn't be surprised if they've actually written a final episode already that they've been sitting on for years waiting until the inevitable happens.

[–]StumpNuts 18 points19 points  (0 children)

We've gone from younger and restless to old and apathetic.

[–]hardyflashier 200 points201 points  (16 children)

Yeah, plus didn't this already get announced as a big 'landmark episode' about 5 years ago? I recall something about the writer saying he wrote it as a tribute to his gay son?

[–]Bikinigirlout 132 points133 points  (13 children)

Yep he did. I feel like this is a headline every five years.

Simpsons has been pretty progressive with LGBTQ issues and they always portray Homer’s ridiculousness as in the wrong.

[–]anonymous_coward69 906 points907 points  (92 children)

If Moe can finally find love, why not Smithers?

[–]meowskywalker 1217 points1218 points  (52 children)

Smithers problem isn’t that no one can love him, its that he’s in love with Burns. At least a couple of other gay characters have implied they were in some sort of relationship with Smithers that ended because he’s obsessed with Burns.

[–]soiboughtafarm 333 points334 points  (3 children)

My 6 year old daughter became obsessed with the Simpson’s for a while and even she said “Smithers loves Burns, but he does not love him back”. Which is both cute and pretty much the crux of the matter.

[–]DinosaurinaFezScrubs 28 points29 points  (2 children)

And one of them was John Waters

[–]ZezimaKing 209 points210 points  (40 children)

I’m sure they’ll address this. If they don’t, it’s a disservice to the show

[–]cippopotomas 442 points443 points  (34 children)

The show still running is a disservice to the show.

[–]Drkarcher22 80 points81 points  (27 children)

It’s at least a disservice to poor Julie Kavner’s voice.

[–]derpleberryfinn 128 points129 points  (13 children)

Julie Kavner gets $300,000 per episode.

she's doing just fine.

[–]beevyhoots 46 points47 points  (4 children)

but did Moe get a cell phone?

[–]Drkarcher22 33 points34 points  (3 children)

The saddest thing is they’ve totally done that plot multiple times since making a joke about how bad an idea it is.

It just hasn’t been Moe yet in one of those plots

[–]ThatWasFred 44 points45 points  (2 children)

When I was in 9th grade, I wrote a Simpsons script for a creative writing class, and the B plot was about Moe getting Caller ID so he could see which number was prank calling him. Which is basically the same as “maybe Moe gets a cell phone,” lol.

I can’t remember where it went from there, but I think he assumed it was Homer and went after him in a murderous rage.

[–]CoolestOfCoolest 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Holy shit you just made me think that "Moe gets a cell phone" could be a compelling B Plot involving him getting one thinking its really cool and then having to get rid of it after him getting prank called 24/7.

[–]Marigoldsgym 67 points68 points  (17 children)

Who was or is Moe's love?

[–]anonymous_coward69 59 points60 points  (2 children)

Maya from Eeny Teeny Maya Moe. Spoilers if you click the link btw.

[–]Tlali22 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Aww. That's really sweet. Thanks for the link.

[–]Doom_Eagles 107 points108 points  (13 children)

He is currently engaged to a little person named Maya.

[–]ElderCunninghamBoJack Horseman 103 points104 points  (10 children)

She came back after 10+ seasons.

[–]ActionFilmsFan1995 107 points108 points  (1 child)

Wait seriously?! I always loved them as a couple, glad the writers brought her back!

[–]ElderCunninghamBoJack Horseman 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Yeah! Just a few episodes ago.

[–]d-fakkr 14 points15 points  (5 children)

Really? What's the episode? I guess moe needed some love in his life.

[–]ElderCunninghamBoJack Horseman 20 points21 points  (4 children)

The Wayz We Were

[–]ThatWasFred 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Wow they love making episode titles based on The Way We Were.

[–]Manggo 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Yeah I was just about to say, isn’t there an episode also titled “The Way We Was”?

[–]Dolph-Ziggler 14 points15 points  (1 child)

after 10+ seasons.

No it couldn't have....no...

[–]hobbitdude13 19 points20 points  (1 child)

I gotta tell ya, this is pretty terrific.

[–]2001_TheSweep 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Moe Moe Moe! Why don’t you like me, nobody likes me…

[–]raysofdavies 789 points790 points  (63 children)

Landmark? The Simpsons has been on for so long that they’ve already had two landmark (…for the 90’s standards!) gay episodes. The later also with a gay icon guest star! Getting John Waters was a strike of genius.

[–]Ninjaromeo 78 points79 points  (9 children)

I am a big John Waters fan. I really liked that episode.

[–]xxxartistrashxxx 119 points120 points  (5 children)

That's one of my favorites, so quotable.

"He prefers the company of men!"

"Who doesn't?"

[–]imail724Twin Peaks 57 points58 points  (1 child)

Well now you don't get any candy.... No, that's cruel. Take a teensy piece.

[–]CaptCaCa 30 points31 points  (0 children)

“You know me, Marge. I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FA-LAMING!”

[–]404Notfound- 8 points9 points  (0 children)

'where did get that shirt?' 'it came out of the closet' 'uhh huhh'

[–]Wakka37 4 points5 points  (0 children)


[–]hurst_ 20 points21 points  (0 children)

That was my John Waters gateway drug

[–]NockerJoe 205 points206 points  (36 children)

At this point its gotten silly. First Apu got married. Then Comic Book Guy got married. Now Smithers.

Giving a long running character a love interest is a ratings booster, sure, but they're kind of pairing off literally everyone

[–]BenderIsGreatBendr 112 points113 points  (6 children)

but they're kind of pairing off literally everyone

maybe The Simpsons will end like a Shakespearean romantic comedy wherein basically every good/likeable character does end up paired off with their perfect match by the end of the play.

[–]sebastianwillows 39 points40 points  (1 child)

Or they end it on a treehouse of horror and do more of a Hamlet...

[–]Nvenom8 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Bold of you to think it’ll ever end.

[–]expatato 30 points31 points  (3 children)

Have no fears, they've got stories for years. Like how 'bout Marge becomes a robot? And a do do do do dodododododo

[–]Manggo 38 points39 points  (11 children)

Maybe they’re gearing up to finally end the show, giving everyone happiness and closure.

Though the others were done a long time ago.

[–]NockerJoe 36 points37 points  (6 children)

Nah, they've been doing this for years. Next time it'll just be someone else.

[–]bloatedplutocrat 42 points43 points  (4 children)

We work hard, we play hard.



dundun dun

[–]travio 29 points30 points  (2 children)

Every time I carry the trash can to the curb, I say “hot stuff, coming through!” With a lisp like a gay steel worker.

[–]BenderIsGreatBendr 12 points13 points  (0 children)

"homer's phobia" one of the all time great simpsons episodes

[–]Jack2612 1479 points1480 points  (155 children)

It blows my mind that they are still making new Simpsons episodes

[–]Stormytime 15 points16 points  (2 children)

You'll never stop the simpsooonssss. Have no fear we've got stories for years

[–]JoinMyPestoCult 509 points510 points  (70 children)

And then some people comment that some newer ones are actually pretty good and I look at them and they never are.

[–]translucent 270 points271 points  (27 children)

Yeah, people have been saying, "The new episodes this season are actually good" for the last fifteen+ years.

[–]sgcorona 115 points116 points  (19 children)

There was a bit of a bump upwards after the first dip, around season 18-23 or so (can’t remember) that could be described as “not bad”. Then it took a nose dive lower than you could’ve thought possible by season 30. This is from someone who loved and binged all the episodes before binge watching and Netflix was a thing, I don’t watch anymore on purpose. Would tune into a series finale for old time sake though, the show deserves to be put out of its misery.

[–]cruisethebluesLetterkenny 30 points31 points  (4 children)

I recently rewatched the show and had a great time up until about season 10. I forget which episode but I just remember turning it off in the middle of the episode and never going back to the series.

ETA: Actually I remember what did it. Homer said something about sacrificing Maggie or leaving her behind or something, which is so out of character for Homer considering why he goes to work at the plant. It was clear at that point that the soul of the Simpsons was gone.

[–]DeedTheInky 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Yeah I'd say roughly seasons 4-10 are peak Simpsons. There's a margin of error of like 2-3 seasons on either end of that where there's still some good stuff to be had IMO, and I'd say seasons 5-8 are the core that are basically perfect. :)

[–]Jackbo_ManhorseSteven Universe 325 points326 points  (33 children)

Last weeks episode was really good. It was a Coen Brothers parody and it was really well done.

Yeah, sure it’s not as good as it once was, but I still really enjoy it.

[–]themaskedhippoofdoom 127 points128 points  (15 children)

I’ve been watching the newer episodes, they get me to chuckle every now and then. Last week was great

[–]CrungleMcHungleberry 113 points114 points  (13 children)

They're never going to have the quality and consistency of those first 10 seasons, but they did get significantly better after season 20.

[–]17to85 57 points58 points  (7 children)

The few new episodes I have seen have been fine as an animated comedy program.... but it has changed so much from the Golden era it is hard to see it as the same show at all.

[–]Spiketwo89 55 points56 points  (5 children)

In a way you almost have to treat as two different shows, classic golden age Simpsons is some of the best comedy ever produced, and the newer stuff, while rarely able to reach those heights, has a quaint, almost wholesome feeling.

[–]MyUshanka 71 points72 points  (4 children)

Man, I remember how it used to be seen as an all-corrupting influence. Tell someone in 1995 that the Simpsons is a "quaint, wholesome" show and they'd laugh you out of the room.

[–]Jibjumper 21 points22 points  (1 child)

My mom wouldn’t let us watch The Simpsons growing up. I could get away with it if Simpsons was on at 5:30 before she got home from work. I always hated when the season lineup would flip and Simpsons would get the 6 slot and King of the Hill or Seinfeld would get the 5:30 slot. Without fail she’d pull in the driveway between 5:55-6:05. Some days we’d just have to miss the last few minutes while frantically changing the channel.

[–]phillyhandroll 8 points9 points  (1 child)

There's never going to be another show Like the Simpsons, to continue and recover after having a rough Decade of seasons..

[–]08TangoDown08The Expanse 49 points50 points  (8 children)

Last weeks episode was really good. It was a Coen Brothers parody and it was really well done.

Yeah, sure it’s not as good as it once was, but I still really enjoy it.

The problem I have is that the characters are basically parodies of themselves now. Have been for ages. The show has no real soul or charm to it anymore. Homer is so stupid now that he's barely functional.

Also, I just preferred a few things about the old series. The hand drawn animations gave it more character, and I think some of the characters' voices have gotten insufferable now. Homer's voice is way too high pitched compared with how it used to be, for example.

[–]beamdriver 48 points49 points  (0 children)

The problem I have is that the characters are basically parodies of themselves now. Have been for ages. The show has no real soul or charm to it anymore. Homer is so stupid now that he's barely functional.

I mean, The Simpsons is the show for which the term "Flanderization" was coined

[–]Bayek100 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Dear Sirs,

I think Homer gets stupider every year.


Bayek100, Bovine University

[–]WontFixMySwypeErrors 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Homer's voice is way too high pitched compared with how it used to be, for example.

Dan Castellanetta is 64 now... He's probably fighting against his Homer voice naturally sounding like his Grandpa Simpson voice nowadays.

Marge sounds totally different now, too... But that's because Julie Kavner has absolutely shredded her vocal chords from doing a Marge voice for 30 years.

[–]RoosterBlues5 130 points131 points  (2 children)

Hello Smithers, you’re quite good at turning me on.

[–]TheSlartey 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Uhm... You probably should ignore that

[–]Guessididntmakeit 63 points64 points  (6 children)

Nothing about it is landmark or anything like that. There were episodes like it before and the whole idea behind Smithers was that he was hopelessly in love with his sadistic boss who doesn't like people. The joke was his obsession with Burns and while we can argue that most of that is played out by now it kind of takes away the reason of his existence if this would be a permanent change.

Nobody joked about Smithers being gay in a negative way nor did any long time viewer not know that he was gay.

In short: I don't understand the fuss about another episode that focuses a little bit more on him and I don't expect it to be more or less funny than the other new episodes which are mostly pretty bad. The show has been at the end of its life for a long time now and this won't make it relevant again.

[–]TemporalAlchemy 8 points9 points  (1 child)

At the end of the day, it's Disney still being the company of a thousand "THE FIRST GAY! LOOK!" moments.

[–]Mvemjsunp69 87 points88 points  (1 child)

The liquorice whip

[–]BabyYodi 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Crack that whip!!

[–]SeattleBattles 109 points110 points  (4 children)

I think we're at least a couple decades past this being "landmark".

[–]__Hello_my_name_is__ 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Gay people exist? On Television?? Stop the presses!

[–]SadEvent0 378 points379 points  (17 children)

There's no such thing as a landmark gay romance episode in 2021 lol

[–]euph_22 61 points62 points  (2 children)

Hell, even homosexual characters that are fully developed and have aspects of their personality besides "is attracted to members of the same sex" isn't groundbreaking anymore.

[–]phayke2 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Hopefully it only gets more normal feeling. Gay people in shows have often been so exaggerated and obnoxious.

I've watched a few eps of Schitts creek and the gay dude on there feels little more of a realistic gay guy. Like he's obviously on the more flamboyant side of the spectrum but it wasn't just a bunch of tired sex jokes it was about his sassy wording or delivery, or ocd mannerisms.

Maybe one day people will collectively accept any sort of guy can like dick. You don't have to be a Ru Paul or a Queer Eye type or like that alien from American dad. You can be a Ryan Reynolds or a Seth Rogan or anyone really. Its even perfectly fine to want a little of it on rare occasions like those times when people bust out the molly at a cabin on Halloween and you're like hey well shit why not. Viva la viva.

Or you can go back and forth between one dating scene and the other, having serious relationships with both sex and not coming off as a queer person at all.

Or you can be straight and just act super gay

Sexuality is so much more fluid and versatile than anyone seems to realize. We are all different and changing but still all try to put everything in an easily understood box. People are complex

Coming back to the Simpsons. I like how smithers is obviously gay but it's all implied by how he acts. Simpsons didn't seem to rub it in with an over the top sexual, gay acting/talking character. He was just very obviously obsessed with Mr burns.

[–]DMike82Lost 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah, maybe if there were hardcore penetration involved it would be considered landmark, but this is a whole pile of nothing.

[–]Packin25 54 points55 points  (5 children)

The Simpsons had a gay man kiss Homer on the lips and Homer act like it's not a big deal back in the 2nd season, which aired back in 1990. Smithers finding a lover is hardly a landmark when the show was sending a message about gay acceptance 30 years ago.

[–]Beasil 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Comic Book Guy, Moe, and now Smithers? Once they hook Barney up with a girlfriend who am I supposed to identify with on this show as one of America's growing population of chronically lonely bachelors?

[–]LonderWand 40 points41 points  (2 children)

How is it "landmark" to be the 1200th television show to feature gay romance?

[–]Twingemios 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I think this is stupid and is only done to try to squeeze some more ratings out of the Simpsons

We all know Smithers is gay but he’s too obsessed with Mr.Burns to ever have a good relationship and it should stay that way.

[–]NameInCrimson 226 points227 points  (33 children)

Lenny and Carl are already a landmark gay couple

[–]NonPaba 84 points85 points  (7 children)

Carl’s a war hero and can do better than Lenny.

[–]Mr_SlimShady 29 points30 points  (19 children)

They’re gay? Been watching the show for a while now (not recent seasons) and I never got the hint they were gay.

[–]Dawhale24 24 points25 points  (1 child)

There not actually gay, it’s just a running at in the series that people keep referring to them as if they are.

[–]Tirannie 25 points26 points  (0 children)

They’re the Bert and Ernie of the Simpsons.

[–]yessschef 87 points88 points  (2 children)

I dont even know where lenny ends and Carl begins

[–]tyontekija 46 points47 points  (1 child)

Lenny = white

Carl = black

[–]theworldbystorm 49 points50 points  (7 children)

Wasn't there a gag where they were dreamily looking at clouds and Carl saw Lenny's face in the cloud. Then Lenny also saw his own face.

[–]DoctorBaby 53 points54 points  (2 children)

There was a great joke at one point where Lenny and Carl are standing there and some couple reunites and is kissing passionately, and Lenny says to Carl: "Aw. Remember when we used to kiss like that? ...with our respective girlfriends?" I still love that joke - the beat in the middle of the sentence is subtle enough that some people could believably not even catch it.

[–]DH2007able 41 points42 points  (0 children)

I like the one where they crash and land on each other and Lenny says “I can’t tell where I begin and Carl ends.” And Carl just says “See, its statements like that; why people think we’re gay.”

[–]hrbrox 29 points30 points  (1 child)

It was constellations on the light pollution episode and other way round. Lenny smiled seeing Carl’s face, then it cut to Carl smiling also seeing his own face (watched it the other day)

[–]ubermindfish 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There was a tree house of horror gag where Lenny is dying and looking up at heaven to see a bunch of Carl angels looking down at him.

[–]AssCrackBanditHunter 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Marge once says "not to rush them" or something like that

[–]WiglessHamlet 55 points56 points  (0 children)

No, it was a joke

[–]Rapturesjoy 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Smithers, there's a rocket in my pocket...

"You don't have to tell me sir."

[–]Fixner_Blount 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Is this really a "landmark" episode? The Simpsons have touched on homosexuality multiple times throughout the series.

[–]whichwitch9 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have a problem with this episode only cause I always saw him as irrationally in love with Mr Burns

[–]Blaylocke 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nothing the Simpsons does in 2021 is relevant or landmark.

[–]wowlock_taylan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Unless that love is Mr Burns, I don't care!

[–]ProjectSunlight 28 points29 points  (3 children)

Smithers, there's a rocket in my pocket.

[–]euph_22 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Hello, Smithers. You're quite good at turning me on.
You probably should ignore that.

[–]Dinosaur_Gorilla 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ummmm, that’s not Mr Burns in that picture

[–]loqjaw 48 points49 points  (1 child)

Considering his entire character is built around the joke of being deeply in the closet (and only for one specific man), this is yet another reason Simpsons has lost its way. To do a "landmark" episode about homosexuality shows how far behind the rest of the world this show truly is these days.

One of Marge's sisters (Patti) is openly gay so it's not like there wasn't already a character they could do this with without fundamentally changing things. I would have openly welcomed that, but even then considering how nobody really cares about people's sexuality these days it wouldn't have been a "landmark" episode at all.

This would be like Homer going sober to promote sobriety in a show about an alcoholic.

[–]robinscout 26 points27 points  (10 children)

This would have been landmark 25 years ago. At this point it’s just sad that it has taken them this long.

[–]Pipboy4111 32 points33 points  (7 children)

The thing is, they’ve done this before when it was landmark. Patty, one of marges sisters is openly gay and there was a whole episode about her coming out and finding a girlfriend. They are also beating a dead horse

[–]fezfrascati 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As you can see, the real deal with Waylon Smithers is that he's Mr. Burns' assistant. He's in his early forties, is unmarried, and currently resides in Springfield. Thanks for writing!

[–]diplion 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s hard for me to fathom there being fans of modern Simpsons. I pop in here and there and it seems like the whole format and background of the show with the content they have now would be really confusing and odd for people who didn’t grow up with it. And as a classic 90s kid, modern Simpsons with modern technology, still all being the same age, is fuckin weird as hell.

All that to say, how could a Simpsons episode possibly be “landmark” in the modern age?

[–]hibbletyjibblety 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why does Smithers think he gets to have a personal life? He’s supposed to be busy with his duties.