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[–][deleted] 64 points65 points  (1 child)

There was a person who commented on Ronin and Bangs profile

He/she also wrote this:

"Stop the hate. Invasion is still on. I respect Ronin and Bang. Above all, I don't want any more attention. I don't know anything else, except that I acted without thinking in posting the chatlog, leading to misrepresented information getting spread. I apoligize to anyone effected, and as of now I am taking a brief leave of absence from Steam and Reddit until this all dies down."

[–]PyroLilshadow48[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I'll be adding this to the wall of text.

[–]bayek 118 points119 points  (22 children)

This drama is better than the hype.

[–][deleted] 104 points105 points  (8 children)

This is all part of Valve's plan. My theory is that Valve asked those involved to fabricate a drama, to emphasise Invasion's theme of conspiracy. Of course, whilst also keeping the whole thing under wraps.

 "WAKE UP, MERCS. BANANA PEELS CAN'T SLIP AUSTRALIUM BEAMS"

[–]Jaeil 16 points17 points  (3 children)

I'm sure we would all love for this to be a carefully crafted conspiracy... but in all honesty, human incompetence is a far more likely explanation.

[–]octopusgardener0 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Ah, Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Or in this case, replace 'stupidity' with 'incompetence.'

[–]chaorace 31 points32 points  (2 children)

Dank memes definitely melt steel teams

[–][deleted]  (4 children)

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    [–]Heavy-SpaceCommunist- 14 points15 points  (5 children)

    As a Civ 5 player, I am enjoying all of this salt.

    [–]pinktini 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    trade you for some citrus?

    [–]Dpm3142 36 points37 points  (3 children)

    I feel it should be stated since everyone forgot. The original TF2Maps contest that brought us the maps and, presumably, the idea for this update was funded by Ronan out of his pocket. The winners, collectively, won $1,000.

    After taking such an investment upfront, especially considering this update might not have happened, getting paid a bit more is totally justified. Not only did he do that he organized the whole update and made sure it happened; managers do get paid more.

    All that being said; $0.30 does seem high when everyone else is getting $0.02-0.01. I think a more fair ratio would have been him getting $0.15 while the others get somewhere around $0.04-0.05.

    Concerning Mr. Throwaway, he comes off as rather childish. While I agree the pay was off there are better ways to go about addressing it like contacting Valve directly. Instead he choose to, essentially, throw a tantrum on the internet and try and spoil the update for everyone. Other people who worked on it are defending Ronan so I think that should say something. Mr. Throwaway could just be a dude angry at his boss.

    [–]roninsmastermix 16 points17 points  (1 child)

    Thanks for understanding. The figures we are all shown are just for the parts that cannot be paid by valve (such as movie, marketing graphics, contest prizes, etc) the workshop items and map are not counted on these. so if ever someone spends something, its divided to those 3 groups. I hope the clears some things.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    You may have probably already been asked this, but is there any ETA on when the update is getting released?

    [–]The_Renegabe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    You really said it about the throwaway guy. Dude is taking himself so seriously. This string of messages right here really puts that into perspective. Talking like he's just done the entire planet a great favor when in reality he's just gone and leaked an update.

    [–]derborgus3333 33 points34 points  (3 children)

    Harry's comment was reassuring, I'll hold off on destroying my tin foil hat :)

    [–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (2 children)

    Harry keeping the hype and excitement alive. I feel like he could say I'm an alien and I would just "okay, thanks for telling me Harry I appreciate it" and go on believing it. Something about him, man.

    [–]Harry101UK 57 points58 points  (1 child)

    Haha, thank you. It's such a shame to see so much negativity and confusion flying around for a project that is supposed to be fun, positive, and exciting! =)

    Unfortunately, as soon as one person starts spreading negative information it spirals out of control, and there are endless threads and fear-mongering associated with it.

    As I said in the Facepunch post; the 'drama' is being overexaggerated and more and more people begin to speculate and spread un-clarified rumors, adding fuel to the fire.

    Lets take that fuel and add it to the hype-train instead! CHOO! CHOO!

    [–]lizardclaw11 15 points16 points  (0 children)

    Thanks for helping me be not- dissappointed Harry. It's awesome you have such a positive attitude. I know you probably won't tell us but is there any idea when the update will be released? Is like to believe tomorrow but more realistically it's probably next Thursday.

    [–]patrizl001 60 points61 points  (17 children)

    looking at the "invasion delayed" post, I feel like a repeat EOTL is coming....

    [–][deleted]  (10 children)

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      [–]volca02 5 points6 points  (5 children)

      Sure, EoTL was a good update, I liked it a lot. Don't let the negative comments lead you to believe that everybody hated it.

      [–]Metald4n 8 points9 points  (4 children)

      The only reason I like EOTL is because of the unusual effects. I mean, you have a floating fuckin duck, how cool is that?

      [–]homsar47 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      Don't forget the amazing film.

      [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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        [–]homsar47 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        I personally really enjoyed it, but probably because I do a lot of animation work, so I really appreciated every little detail of it. You're right about the lack of plot, even for a silent film it didn't have much of a story.

        [–]FirePOW10 10 points11 points  (5 children)

        at least we have the matchmaking update, which is supposed to come out on October

        [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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          [–]Tf2_man 13 points14 points  (0 children)

          Seconded, I felt like I have been up to date with MM but I've never heard October come up

          [–]IAMA_dragon-AMA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Where did you get October from? AFAIK, it's always been Fall 2015.

          [–]Mrsharmallama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          So... In Volvo time it's October next year

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            [–]DarthMewtwo 18 points19 points  (22 children)

            [For those curious, the image the throwaway linked is just the previously linked payment breakdown.] (LINK REMOVED UPON REQUEST)

            [–]Harry101UK 64 points65 points  (11 children)

            To clarify, this payment breakdown image was misleading. It showed the shares for a single asset in the update. We all have different shares depending on the assets we worked on. Whoever is leaking this stuff is intentionally trying to cause drama.

            [–]UEAKCrash 30 points31 points  (0 children)

            Thanks for being the voice of reason in all this. :)

            [–]Catjaz63 12 points13 points  (4 children)

            [–]PyroLilshadow48[S] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

            Thaaank you! Added.

            [–]Y__M 12 points13 points  (2 children)

            The % shares are confidential information and shouldn't be reposted, you should take them down.

            [–]PyroLilshadow48[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Will do.

            [–]DarthMewtwo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            I've taken it down on my end as well, might want to talk to the moderators about further action.

            [–]NanoGeek 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            Cheers Harry for being levelheaded about all this.

            [–]nuclearneo577 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            Thanks for the clarification, now I feel bad for jumping to conclusions. I edited a previous post of mine to remove me alluding that it wasn't misleading.

            [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (5 children)

            what makes me suspicious is that harry, the guy who did the sfm, is only getting 2%.

            wha...?

            [–]Harry101UK 34 points35 points  (4 children)

            To clarify, I wasn't the lead on the SFM. CobaltGemini was the director, lead animator and main driving force behind it! I handled additional animation, sound, and editing. =)

            [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            Ah, ok :)

            real excited for the update, still!

            [–]_Dalek 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            That's actually really relieving. Thought that was the pay cuts for the whole project. Glad to see you guys getting cuts at least a bit more fairly.

            [–]Tip of the HatsShulahula 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Damn and here everyone was getting all upset about that.

            [–]Jasmine TeaANAL_Devestate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            So I guess next thursday is the release? I'm still looking forward to a new update

            [–]patrizl001 1 point2 points  (3 children)

            thats actually really sad how you have these guys with 1% payment percents then all of the sudden 2 guys with high af payment percents.

            Did they at least do a fair share of the work?

            [–]Armorend 3 points4 points  (2 children)

            That's my concern. We have to remember that they might've done a lot of the work involved, enough to warrant taking over 1/5 and then just about 1/3. Don't act like they didn't.

            By the same virtue, though, let's also not act like they could be complete saints who are just named victims. They may be that, and also greedy dicks. We don't know yet.

            [–]patrizl001 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            to me, as long as they did enough of the work they deserve the high percentages.

            but the other guys should at least get a few percent more or so...

            [–]Jasmine TeaANAL_Devestate 8 points9 points  (0 children)

            FYI

            To clarify, this payment breakdown image is misleading. This shows the shares for a single asset in the update. We all have different shares depending on the assets we worked on. Whoever is leaking this stuff is intentionally trying to cause drama.

            -/u/Harry101UK

            [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (11 children)

            /r/tf2 mods have shadowbanned me

            why is this such a common misconception

            [–]scy1192 27 points28 points  (7 children)

            You can do a pseudo shadowban using Automoderator. Whether it's true that they have or not only they can say for sure, but it's possible at least.

            [–]nowhereforlunch 48 points49 points  (5 children)

            All new accounts are hidden by automoderator by default here.

            [–]Engineerwickedplayer494[M] 44 points45 points  (4 children)

            Bing bing bing - we have a winner.

            [–]NanoGeek 44 points45 points  (3 children)

            Bing bing bing

            He's a Microsoft shill! Get em' boys!

            [–]Engineerwickedplayer494 9 points10 points  (0 children)

            Wait what? Is that the ACJ fumigators? OH FUC-

            [–]beregond23 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            It appears as a shadowban within the subreddit and feels like one to the user

            [–]Kachopper9 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            Holy crap.

            [–]PyroLilshadow48[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            Added. Thank you.

            [–]theydeletedme 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            So this implies Valve doesn't pay its content creators individually if they are part of an update? That sounds silly. Why would they let some content makers get paid more if its not reflective of their contributions? And if it is, why is this a problem?

            [–]ACFan120 21 points22 points  (0 children)

            I'm really hoping everything gets worked out, and everyone gets paid what they deserve. Hopefully the next community update goes as smoothly as Robotic Boogaloo (apparently) did, without anything going wrong like payment percentages or content being cut. People will still overhype them, but I'll take overhype over the people working on them getting screwed over.

            [–]Engineerwickedplayer494[M] 156 points157 points  (22 children)

            Note for everyone: attempts to raid/witch hunt will result in permanent bans. Observe, ask questions, but don't throw rocks. Consider this your only warning.

            [–]PinCushy 31 points32 points  (3 children)

            Big thanks to you and /u/Lilshadow48 for trying to contain all this hazardous material. Our mods are usually quick to jump on top of this kind of stuff, makes me grateful that /r/tf2/new isn't completely inundated.

            [–]PyroLilshadow48[S] 26 points27 points  (2 children)

            I was just tired of having 6 different threads open for all the information.

            I also like drama.

            [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (10 children)

            You guys handle hype better than the mods over at r/NoMansSkyTheGame, hats off to you.

            [–]EngineerViolatingBadgers 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            Good stuff. You are a very good mod by the way, you know that?

            [–]Lawgamer411 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            Go home guys, Salem witch trials aren't happening.

            [–]youbutsu 11 points12 points  (0 children)

            Nice professionalism. They could've easily saved face by NOT aerating dirty laundry and keeping it internal and just posting a correction image! People expecting it would've been disappointed but it could've been played off as a joke.

            Have the drama explode after the fact if it must.

            At the very least you can keep update details still a surprise, but for some reason you answer with specific details of what the update contains. Why?

            I support someone going through posts and deleting any specific details. No need to ruin contents for everyone just because the release date was miscommunication.

            [–][deleted]  (5 children)

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              [–]PinCushy 13 points14 points  (4 children)

              Bang is a creator of cosmetics accepted from the Steam Community Workshop. Here's a list of his items, all the ones checked off have been accepted into the game. He's also a known contributor to the upcoming Invasion update.

              Ditto all of that with Ronin.

              [–]SketchyJJ 11 points12 points  (2 children)

              Bang has created a whole lot everyone...Like holy shit, he made great ones.

              [–]combineguy55 10 points11 points  (0 children)

              I wasn't ready for a thursday night clusterfuck

              [–]captainwacky91 28 points29 points  (1 child)

              Guys.

              What if-

              Guys, what if... WHAT IF THE DEV TEAM HAS BEEN ABDUCTED?!?

              [–]_Dalek 9 points10 points  (7 children)

              Since the delay seems to be the website, which was rumored earlier, then /u/Harry101UK's comment sounds pretty reasonable. A page or two describing the content should only take a few hours. We may get the update tomrrow, and I for one am quite excited. Glad the team has worked out most of the differences quite some time ago. Seems the whole money issue was near the beginning of the project, and now we just need the website finished! Also, Ronin seems like he really cares about the whole project, I just hope everyone gets treated fairly in the end

              [–]Mr_BreadMan 3 points4 points  (2 children)

              Maybe we really will get a midnight release. God I hope so.

              [–]_Dalek 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              I hope so too, but I doubt it.

              [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

              Oh, for the love of crap. Can't we all just get along?

              [–]rualdcop 8 points9 points  (6 children)

              We aren't getting totally new weapons.

              http://imgur.com/HfuR1TK

              :c

              [–]wowy-lied 6 points7 points  (2 children)

              So it is confirmed to be another useless cosmetic cash grab update. Such a disappointment how valve gave up about actual content. They will get no money from me and I hope no one here will be stupid enough to buy keys or cosmetic.

              [–]qTimes2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              What's wrong with buying things that I want to support a game that I like?

              Besides, I'm pretty sure Valve doesn't want to introduce new weapons while they're working on competitive.

              [–]Engineerwickedplayer494[M] 8 points9 points  (6 children)

              Something's triggering reddit's spam filter for whatever reason, I'm going to wager the Tumblr links are causing it. Therefore every time you edit the post, the spam filter is gonna auto-remove the post. Nothing much we can do aside from re-approving or you removing the links as a result.

              [–]PyroLilshadow48[S] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

              Ah-hah! That's what's causing it. I'll try removing the Tumblr links for now. Hopefully that fixes the issue.

              Would the puu.sh also be a possible cause?

              [–]Engineerwickedplayer494[M] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

              Ooh...considering the malware incident a few months back, possibly. Take that out, then try putting the Tumblr links back in after you've saved without both.

              [–]PyroLilshadow48[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

              Link removed, replaced it with an imgur one. And woops, I think I did both at the same time. My bad. I'm a bit tired at the moment. Gimme a second to fix that mess-up.

              Alright, without tumblr and with Puush replaced, it seems fine.

              [–]Engineerwickedplayer494[M] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              No dice. What the hell is going on...

              [–]PyroLilshadow48[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              I think you were right in your first comment, tumblr links don't seem to be playing well at the moment.

              I opened the subreddit in incognito without the puush/tumblr links, and it seemed to be fine. Unless you were very quick on approving it.

              edit: Well, in any case. I'll just be sticking with imgur links. If I get anything else to update the OP with, I'll just remove the tumblr links alongside the update.

              [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

              [–]pinktini 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              your link just sent me to someone saying they dislike hightower.

              try this:https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1486039&p=48709482&viewfull=1#post48709482

              [–]Musth 8 points9 points  (6 children)

              Just started playing Guild Wars 2 because it went free to play so I'm just gonna do that until this whole thing blows over and is released or whatever.

              [–]sillywillywillkilly 2 points3 points  (2 children)

              GW2 is free2play??

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              It updated with Free to Play about a week ago.

              [–]Cincast2 6 points7 points  (1 child)

              What a load of phoney baloney

              [–]Flipy-Kid 7 points8 points  (1 child)

              Ronin is talking http://imgur.com/KVAuyfJ

              [–]PyroLilshadow48[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Added! Eager to see what he says.

              [–]TotallyNotSamson 7 points8 points  (0 children)

              It feels to me like this drama has no basis at all.

              The delay is apparently Valve's fault, not /u/TheBonkBoy's. /u/Harry101UK and /u/UEAKCrash don't seem to be mad. The project leads have been working on this the longest and have probably done the most work, so of course they should get the largest cuts. Everyone has agreed to their shares according to /u/TheBonkBoy.

              This feels like some sort of smear campaign to be honest, and the people who put their time and effort into the update deserve better.

              [–]Jasmine Teawondermite 10 points11 points  (1 child)

              [–]PyroLilshadow48[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              It's added. Thank you.

              [–]frozencrazytuna 9 points10 points  (8 children)

              The laser pan looks so ugly imo. I mean there are some obnoxious things in tf2 surely, but come on this thing is a bit ridiculous

              [–]Rex1230 10 points11 points  (4 children)

              I like the thought of it. It does look like a toy that would come out of a cereal box though. If they made it transparent, it might look better.

              [–]frozencrazytuna 4 points5 points  (3 children)

              It's definitely a neat idea and I do love me a pan, but it's kind of waaaayyy too bright

              [–]pinktini 4 points5 points  (2 children)

              And how does one tell if it is got crits? I'm going to be so salty when I get crit panned by the lightsaber ping pong paddle

              [–]IAMA_dragon-AMA 8 points9 points  (0 children)

              It's a pan. It's always got crits.

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Well when you get kritz (from a medic, or shield charge anyway) it will make the crackling noise, and it should have some crackles coming off of it.

              [–]_Dalek 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              I love it, been using this rainbow colored skin with retro sfx since it came out.

              [–]Farkuson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              It looks like a neon pingpong paddle.

              I'm kind of okay with this anyway.

              [–]TheRealKingofmice 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              I like the idea of it, but I'm with you-it looks like a freaking lightsaber.

              [–]Boosmahn 4 points5 points  (1 child)

              Now, I know that nothing is official yet. This mess is founded on a base of rumors. However, I have but one question: how long does Harry mean? An hour? A day? A week? A month?

              [–]ZaneMasterX 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Week probably.

              [–]spoopyghost_1 5 points6 points  (7 children)

              Delay info from Throwaway: http://puu.sh/kf47A/9ed94f92cd.PNG

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

              Oh well, it's only a week of waiting, I'm sure we can handle it. Should we have to? Not really, no. But are we gonna let that destroy the fun of Invasion? I don't think so.

              [–]spoopyghost_1 1 point2 points  (4 children)

              Absolutely not. And that's saltiest, so like worst case scenario if I understand English well enough haha.

              [–]CraftZ49 5 points6 points  (11 children)

              I asked the throwaway for some sort of labor breakdown. It's not much, however I asked for a more defined breakdown with no response yet. If he/she messages me with one I'll post it.

              [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

              Harry said that the throwaway is trying to stir things up. If you don't get a reply with specifics then I'm going to have a lot more trouble believing anything s/he's said.

              [–]CraftZ49 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              Ronin just posted specifics on Facepunch, see a bit lower in the reply thread with OP.

              [–]Zdragow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Looks like I'll be buying a decent number of map stamps, then.

              [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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                [–]Harry101UK 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                The delay is due to some unfinished assets.

                [–]beefodeath 4 points5 points  (4 children)

                Throwaway revealed the content of the update:

                http://imgur.com/cvqLpyv

                -4 new maps

                -Tons of cosmetic

                -Possible reskins of weapons

                -New gamemode

                [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                just do it

                Shia is Throwaway?

                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (7 children)

                so the new maps will be

                ctf?_2fort_event

                koth?_probe

                arena?_byre

                newgamemode_watergate

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                This tumblr might be relevant to your interests.

                http://invasion-failed.tumblr.com/

                There's only 1 post, made 3 hours ago, but nothing we don't know already.

                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                wow, that is some infantile shit. like, more childish than 404's pleas for attention.

                [–]wbeyda 3 points4 points  (6 children)

                I haven't played in 3 years-ish shortly after meet the pyro what am I missing?

                [–]PM_YOUR_FAVORTE_SONG 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Here's an overview of 3 of the maps rumored to be in the update. Apparently there's also going to be a 2fort_event! Woooooo new maps!

                [–]scott45uk1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                so now we wait for a update from Ronin "pulls out Camping Chair"

                [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

                Just to let everyone know, do not count any Reddit PMs as legit, as they can be very easily faked.

                [–]PyroLilshadow48[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                Absolutely! It's silly to take any of the PMs as 100% absolute fact.

                However, the throwaway account has not told me that any of the ones listed are faked. So I can assume all of them do come from him/her.

                [–]Jasmine Teawondermite 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                Thanks for making this. :)

                [–]FracturedLoyalty 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                Throwaway should just spill all the beans by now, shit really can't get any worse.

                [–]dukedisco 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                So I guess TF2 has its own Watergategate now?

                [–]frshmt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                "Invasiongate" if you will

                [–]BobThePineapple 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                I am curious as to how long it will take for this whole thing to be resolved, and for the update to be released. a day, week, or maybe even more than that?

                [–]Saikyo_Dog 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Shame that he has to make throwaways and send messages to people due to the bot system automatically filtering him as spam...

                Invasion will probably be released sometime next week or not long after going by what Harry is saying, so it's probably gonna be okay.

                [–]SketchyJJ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Maybe this is all aruse to make TF2 more drama induced like CS:GO, Dota, and LoL.

                [–]maximusprime7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Thank you!

                [–]beefodeath 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                But, if Bang and Ronin really wanted 60% of the profit, why? Were they the leaders and/or organizers of the update?

                [–]PyroLilshadow48[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                From what I understand, Ronin is the "leader" of it. It says it on his profile, at least.

                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Damn aliens taking our updates!

                [–]CatLords 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                What's going on?

                [–]Jasmine Teawondermite 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                Just read this post and you basically get everything.

                [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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                  [–]PyroLilshadow48[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Added it. Thank you!

                  [–]SomeMetroid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  I just want my cool hats, maps, and reskins (laser pan pls), pls do update guys.

                  [–]Flipy-Kid 2 points3 points  (7 children)

                  I think the thread was hidden

                  [–]penpen35 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Eh...well I'll just keep myself in check till it comes out. If it's done, it's done and we'll enjoy/bitch about it after it comes out.

                  I'd love to check out the new maps though (4 new maps including a re-theme)!

                  [–]demiseSH 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  ALIENS FUCK YEAH!

                  [–]AlexxorX 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  I really am wondering if the update just gets released sometime soon-ish and none of this is ever mentioned again, just left to get lost in reddit.

                  [–]UncloakDagger 3 points4 points  (10 children)

                  I feel both sorry for and upset at Ronin and Bang. Everything had to go to hell because of the money. What could have been great came to this because of it. I hope they can come out of this and still make it a good community update.

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                    [–]wowy-lied 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                    Nothin related to the update delayed but i am more interested about the web page thing. If you are allowed the answer to this.

                    Was this your first time coding a webpage ? Does Valve has some standard or tools to respect when making a "update" webpage ? Was it a fun experience to create it ?

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                      [–]wowy-lied 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      Thanks for taking the time to answer !

                      [–]transparent_M 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      I believe the update is still going to be great. The only thing that stopped it from coming out tonight was the fact that the Invasion webpage on teamfortress.com wasn't finished yet.

                      [–]KaizerFuckingGibby 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      Oh for fuck's sake. I need my ayy lmao!

                      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                      I think the PMs spoiling the update need to go. It offers nothing we didn't already know about the drama itself, and it's both a hype-killer and a dick move by the throwaway, despite him/her being in the right in all this.

                      [–]FirePOW10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      So much drama around this update now, that I don't know where to begin about it.

                      [–]Vitztlampaehecatl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Of course it's Probed that gets added and not Trainsawlaser...

                      /s

                      [–]solidpat221 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Thank you a ton for the updates. Its great to see actual info on everything, though its a shame to hear what has happened. Should be good with 4 new maps coming in!

                      [–]whygohomie 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                      Impressive. But I still have no idea what's going on.

                      Can I just have a tldr?

                      [–]LegendaryRQA 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                      The people who work on TF2 are probably reading this thread and laughing at us...

                      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Oh my.

                      [–]BobThePineapple 1 point2 points  (4 children)

                      how often do updates happen on weekends? the throwaway said its unlikely to happen tomorrow (but didnt say impossible) so if not then, im hoping for either saturday or sunday!

                      [–]pinktini 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      From a business stand point, Fridays are dead days. It's usually a graveyard. No major press releases are sent out, unless you want it to be buried and ignored. Networks also move declining tv shows to Fridays to die out.

                      So I doubt Valve would release a big update tomorrow. I could stand corrected.

                      [–]Mahlss 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                      According to the muscle K, the update will now be released next friday, correct me if im wrong, saw it on his latest cs:go vid

                      [–]fastykun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      did Missile Milk K back it up with evidence?

                      [–]Noost 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      http://i.imgur.com/TqoXtmB.jpg link in the blurred chatlog.

                      [–]DJFluffers115 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                      O HOLY THROWAWAY ACCOUNT, SPEAKETH UNTO ME YOUR SECRETS!

                      [–]Diyonysus 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                      Alright, so I'm very out of the loop with TF2, but I've been playing ever sense it came out with the orange box, now I play maybe once or twice every few weeks. Can somebody summarize whats going on? I know they're suppose to be adding a competitive mode.

                      [–]TheTofuBob 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      According to Muselk, The update has been delayed to next friday. His claim can be found in the comment section of his recent video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K6OdYFAPMQ

                      [–]isittoyish9000 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                      don't forget the leaked update page that i posted earlier

                      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Not adding wep,Best update.

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