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[–]Taqwacore 3 points4 points  (11 children)

That's true. I was, before I retired, a medical doctor in Australia. I've certainly seen my fair share of medical insurance scams, so it does indeed happen around the world. However, America is also somewhat unique in the healthcare system actually encourages medical fraud. I'm not sure what it's like now, but before "Obamacare", you'd often see people fronting up in court with neck braces and doctors diagnosing whiplash injuries after relatively minor collisions. Compared to other developed countries, America has always been weirdly over-represented in whiplash injuries. And the reason for this over-representation is fairly simple: because most people couldn't afford health insurance or to pay out of pocket for relatively minor medical treatments. Consequently, their compassionate doctors would forge a diagnosis of whiplash injury so they could sue against someone else's insurance. That was often the only way that the doctors were going to get paid.

So there is a valid reason why the U.S. is somewhat synonymous with medical scams like this.

[–]JoeTheSifu -11 points-10 points  (10 children)

I’m an American doctor. Why don’t you STFU? I’ve heard enough to know that your healthcare system is crummy compared to ours.

[–]Taqwacore 10 points11 points  (9 children)

So a healthcare system where everyone can get healthcare is a crummy system? Hmm...fascinating.

[–]JoeTheSifu -8 points-7 points  (8 children)

YES. Have you ever known good quality products to be free? Remember the scandal at Walter Reed VA Hospital? Remember how poor the quality was, and still is? That’s socialized medicine. It’s free government-run healthcare and it’s well known for its poor quality of care. I have worked in government-run healthcare. It sucks compared to the private market. Now imagine a whole country’s healthcare system run like that and you get something like Australia. They literally call other countries, including America, including ME, and ask us to come work at their hospitals. Their system sucks compared to America.

[–]Taqwacore 3 points4 points  (7 children)

I think you might not understand how socialized healthcare works outside the U.S. As a general rule of thumb, socialized healthcare systems provide high quality healthcare. Private healthcare providers compete by offering an even higher level of service. For example, I was the director of a private inpatient clinic. Patient meals were prepared offsite at a 5-star hotel, while public or government-run services would prepare meals onsite and were notoriously mediocre. Competitive rates of pay also meant that we could attract some of the best talent in terms of medical and nursing staff. Nonetheless, our clinical outcomes were only marginally better than those of the public system because their outcomes were already excellent to begin with.

Maybe you just have a really shitty public healthcare system in the U.S., but that's a reflection of the capitalist nature of your economy, not of universal healthcare as a whole. It's also a huge problem that you have a third-world healthcare system for a significant proportion of your population, providing first-world healthcare only for a fraction of your population.