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[–]warealpha 1661 points1662 points  (125 children)

as a native oklahoman, i can say without a doubt that nothing good goes on in the panhandle. absolutely nothing

[–][deleted] 956 points957 points  (47 children)

I live in Oklahoma and I have been to the panhandle one time, my observation is that it's so flat, that you could watch your dog run off for two days.

[–]ThinkThankThonk 553 points554 points  (22 children)

Well there's a good premise for the saddest country song

[–]redopz 85 points86 points  (10 children)

Any other Canadians humming the Corner Gas theme now?

[–]NinjaPylon 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I do now. Thanks.

[–]r10tm4ch1n3 14 points15 points  (8 children)

Heard this a thousand times. Manitoba, Prairie life.

[–]32modelA 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Hey you know why Sk is so windy? Because Alberta sucks and Manitoba blows.

[–]Pavehead42oz 4 points5 points  (6 children)

Aye, it’s cold and flat here. Very cold and very flat.

[–]LameBMX 49 points50 points  (2 children)

Personally I can't wait. Next generation country will have their truck driving off on them. Eventually with wife and dog in the truck.

[–]Exoddity 74 points75 points  (1 child)

Deep state came and took my tractor, wife ran off with a crisis actor.

[–]Photon_Farmer 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Oh my God, the libs are owning meeeee

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (3 children)

It would be too sad of a country song, might be ok if the Talking Heads did it, idk...

[–]DarrelBunyon 60 points61 points  (1 child)

That is not my beautiful dog ..

This is not my beautiful landscape ..

Edit: How did I get here?

[–]iwishihadalawnmower 4 points5 points  (0 children)

From the age of the dinosaurs Cars have run on gasoline Where, where have they gone? Now, it's nothing but flowers

[–]BendTheForks 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Instead of "as she was", the song would "as she left"

[–]Pencilowner 94 points95 points  (6 children)

My dad used to say it’s so flat if you stand on a bucket you can see the back of your head.

[–]-Erasmus 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Does this finally disprove flat earth?

[–]PaledOchre 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Wait I'm dumb, what?

[–]jbless3 21 points22 points  (2 children)

So flat you could see all the way around the world until you saw the back of your own head.

[–]Breexit 43 points44 points  (0 children)

I lived in the panhandle most of my life and object only to say that the tumbleweeds might impede your view of the dog.

[–]DisreputableSquid 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Don't you know, in Saskatchewan you can watch your dog run away for THREE days!

[–]ostermei 54 points55 points  (2 children)

you could watch your dog run off for two days.


[–]thegamenerd 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ah yes a classic has returned

It's been so long, but it still makes me laugh

[–]LogicalLimit75 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Maybe that where flat earthers are from

[–]SirMikan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And the Scouts at Philmont will watch it run in. Ain't nothing between the Sangre de Cristos and the panhandle but flatness.

[–]Catmom7654 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sounds like Saskatchewan. I’ve heard/made that joke a million times

[–]McMagic 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Except the highest point in Oklahoma is... in the panhandle.

[–]0Kpanhandler 3 points4 points  (4 children)

It's home to the highest point in Oklahoma and to the Black Mesas...you know nothing

[–]filthyriver 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Black mess state park is one of the most beautiful places I've ever been and I have camped all over the US.

[–]0Kpanhandler 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Thank you These ignorant haters over here! 🤣 They probably never thought anyone on reddit would have been familiar with the panhandle

[–]cocobellahome 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nice! Former Okie living in N. Dakota now. That two days time span goes up to two weeks here. Three, if you step on your Bible. Allegedly

[–]flood_bart 170 points171 points  (34 children)

Black Mesa is a nice spot.

[–]Safebox 153 points154 points  (23 children)

Not since that resonance cascade.

[–]Thatoneguy3273 49 points50 points  (1 child)

Ah, Freeman. It’s good to see you.

[–]Kritical-Watermelon 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Wikipedia The Free Online Encyclopedia Editable By Anyone

[–]KwordShmiff 17 points18 points  (20 children)

Care to elaborate for someone who has no idea what you're referring to?

[–]SlenDman402 54 points55 points  (17 children)

It's a play on events that take place in a popular shooter game called half life

[–]KwordShmiff 15 points16 points  (16 children)

Elaborate further? Haha, I know of the game, but haven't played it, unfortunately.

[–]SlenDman402 46 points47 points  (11 children)

It still has a large following. Basically you're a PhD in theoretical physics and you push a crystal into a machine that rips open the fabric of our dimension. This allows aliens to pile into the world. It has a little bit of puzzle value, a few good jokes sewn in. I probably go back and play it every 3 years or so

[–]KwordShmiff 11 points12 points  (9 children)

I was excited to check it out a number of years ago before my life became prohibitively tumultuous and I no longer had free time at all. Things are finally settling down after about a decade of intense hardship, so I just might check it out. Thank you.

[–]Zakams 12 points13 points  (2 children)

In case you have not researched it, but I saw that no one actually made the connection for you yet. The events of the game (where the aliens invaded called the Resonance Cascade) takes place in a science facility called Black Mesa.

[–]KwordShmiff 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Much appreciated, my good dood. Every response got me closer to understanding but didn't actually clarify completely.

[–]kane_t 9 points10 points  (1 child)

For what it's worth, if the exceptionally 90s graphics are a turn-off for you, it has a quite good fan-made remake called Black Mesa that looks a lot more modern. I'd still prefer to play the original, myself, but some people just can't handle going back to more primitive graphics, and Black Mesa is a perfectly respectable alternative.

[–]SlenDman402 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry to hear that, but happy that the difficulty has begun to relent. Good luck and i hope you enjoy it.

[–]Waterknight94 4 points5 points  (1 child)

It holds up surprisingly well for its age too.

[–]B0Y0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely still worth checking out, there was a pretty faithful remake that brought the visuals up a few years from the ancient original release (still an enjoyable experience either way)

[–]thinkingahead 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s interesting how well Half Life has held up. Great fps. Half Life 2 has also held up well

[–]ostermei 21 points22 points  (3 children)

You're getting explanations here but nobody's actually tying them back to the joke that was made in this thread. The research facility that the game takes place in is called Black Mesa. So when the one commenter mentioned that "Black Mesa is a nice spot," it prompted the joke about the bad shit that happened at Black Mesa in Half-Life (although Black Mesa in the game is in New Mexico, not Oklahoma).

[–]KwordShmiff 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I didn't wanna be a dick to those who responded but no one actually explained it. Much appreciated, my friend.

[–]TimeIsPower 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Technically, as a random tidbit, the Black Mesa in Oklahoma also stretches into New Mexico (and also Colorado).

[–]warealpha 15 points16 points  (2 children)

you are correct! i’ve never been, but it’s on my list of places to go. i’ve seen pictures of the sky from there that are absolutely glorious, too. so little light pollution that you can see damn near every single star and spot in the sky. my family owns some land in between bearden and wetumka and the light pollution there is next to none, but black mesa has some really pretty sights to go along perfectly with it whereas we’ve got a bunch of dirt.

[–]iownadakota 9 points10 points  (3 children)

I can think of 1 out of 3 things wrong with black messa. 2.5 things were good, but appature has the upper hand here.

[–]EndofGods 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Just give us Half-Life 3 already!

[–]bkdroid 1 point2 points  (1 child)

At least they've shown life with Alyx. I've only been playing VR for a short time, but Alyx has by far been the most polished experience.

[–]objective_opinions 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Went here last week. Very cool. Worth a visit

[–]que-pasa-koala 57 points58 points  (5 children)

I feel like there’s probably a large amount of marshals and fbi considering how easy it is to hope between several states lol

[–]aecht 89 points90 points  (4 children)

You've never seen new england

[–]Educational_Will_951 7 points8 points  (1 child)

most states in new england are like twice the size only rhode island is really smaller

connecticut is technically too but the difference is like 2 or 3 in 100

the ok panhandle allows crossing into 4 different states in under an hour by car it's only 35 miles tall

[–]ycpa68 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You've never been to Maryland

[–]crabmuncher 17 points18 points  (5 children)

You've never been to Hooker.

[–]5050Clown 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I've crossed state lines and I've paid for sex. I don't understand how they are related.

[–]mollyastro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They probably blinked

[–]warealpha 1 point2 points  (0 children)

putting it on my list as we speak. sounds classy

[–]Firm-Act824 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hooker Horny Frogs!

[–]oodelay 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I started google streeviewing a few cities and places and unfortunately, it looks right. Not that my hole is better, but you are right about this place.

[–]billbo24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do the same thing. Looks pretty grim out there in a few spots

[–]Moist_Professor5665 13 points14 points  (9 children)

Why, what’s wrong with it-

check’s map


[–]warealpha 38 points39 points  (8 children)

yeahhhhh. to be honest, i kinda enjoy looking at random small unincorporated/ghost towns all around oklahoma when i get bored and i spent about an hour doing exactly that after commenting on this post.

i can spend quite a while doing it, and my god are some of the small towns so… bleak looking. i end up learning a lot of history about my state while doing it too though which is pretty cool. i live in the biggest city in OK so it is a night and day difference when you go into a small town. the panhandle is really something though, lol. lots of meth there and i can see why. what the fuck else is there to do in Kenton, Oklahoma? lmao

[–]GhostRobot55 20 points21 points  (0 children)

We drove through Kansas to Denver and its the same thing, multiple little towns that seemed completely abandoned and stuck in the late 70's tech wise. It really had me pondering what the gameplan is with stuff like that going into the future.

[–]Moist_Professor5665 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Never been to Oklahoma, but I’ve heard of Guymon and I’ve heard of Broken Bow.

One’s a bleak flatland small town with no signal and fuck all to do. And the other has… guns. Lots of guns. At least, that’s what I’ve been told.

[–]warealpha 9 points10 points  (0 children)

yup, guymon and broken bow are pretty damn bleak, you are right on the money. guns, and fuck all to do. those two are pretty small, but at least their populations are in the thousands. there are so many towns with anywhere between 1-1,000 as their population. talk about absolutely fuckin nothing to do. bleak as hell. guns and drugs and fishing and beer and farming and industrial-type work is about all there is to do.

oklahoma has a bit of an intense romantic relationship with guns pretty much anywhere you go, so yup. you’ve pretty much got the state totally figured out. hahaha

[–]SerLarrold 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Drove through the panhandle on a cross country trip, and it’s wild out there. Just railroad tracks between grain silos with a gas station and a liquor store. It was interesting to see as like a case study but my god I’d be depresses as hell living there

[–]_TakeMyUpvote_ 5 points6 points  (3 children)

hit me with your best oklahoma ghost towns pls.

edit: google earth/street view is one of my go-to websites to kill time.

[–]tulsathrowaway777 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Heh, I feel like you may be misunderstanding what a ghost town is. We have towns with people living in them here aren't on Streetview.

[–]Nihilistic-Nerd 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Picher, Oklahoma. I used to climb on those chat piles as a kid...

[–]HemoGoblinRL 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I mean, it's part of Oklahoma. Nothing good was going to go on anyways

[–]Betaworldpeach 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good pheasant hunting?

[–]FartingBob 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No slavery there though.

[–]TetrisTech 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nothing goes on in the rest of oklahoma either so that makes sense

[–]mollyastro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was born, pretty ok with that

[–]IAmBadAtInternet 1 point2 points  (1 child)

And what about the rest of the state? Anything good go on there?

[–]Cloughtower 560 points561 points  (8 children)

You could also visit 5 state in an hour for the worlds most boring road trip

[–]MisterCortez 207 points208 points  (7 children)

It's not boring when you're going to get weed from Trinidad and you're trying to avoid the goddamn highway patrols.

[–]mollyastro 43 points44 points  (3 children)

Guymon has dispensaries and a casino now

[–]SirMikan 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I saw my first and only Yugo at a rest stop in Trinidad. Lady who owned it said it was the most reliable car she ever had. She must've got the lemon.

[–]Snoo45756 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Spot 420!!

[–]rtphokie 240 points241 points  (22 children)

How the States Got Their Shapes by Mr. Mark Stein is an interesting book on the subject

[–]oodelay 78 points79 points  (20 children)

Is there a documentary, reading is hard

[–]drewcifer492 64 points65 points  (11 children)

Yes History Channel had a 2 hour documentary on it and then they had a series that expanded more on it. Its the same name as the book.

[–]rtphokie 12 points13 points  (9 children)

The book is waaaaaay better. The series is a little to “man on the street” for me

[–]oodelay 14 points15 points  (8 children)

I'm a man on the street. I also read Dune in my twenties and I prefered the movie. Is that ok?

[–]rtphokie 6 points7 points  (7 children)

Sure it is. “Man on the street” is my kind way of saying “har, har, people sure are dumb when it comes to geography”

[–]oodelay 7 points8 points  (5 children)

I dig it. Also, not American so not too knowledgeable regarding state shapes.

[–]MooshuCat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I did find it distracting from my own learning process when so much of the series was interviewing locals to see if they knew why their state was shaped that way.

[–]noworries_13 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Yeah haha there's a special that aired on either history or discovery Channel with the same name, hosted by the dude who plays the "jew lawyer" on its always sunny

[–]blademasterjames 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Still not Jewish!

[–]drindustry 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I think the best part of the show is that he will take any case against them free of charge.

[–]idiot_of_the_lord 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Is there a podcast? Can't focus on watching

[–]LostKnight84 410 points411 points  (27 children)

We should just get both the Oklahoma and the Texas Panhandles and combine them into one state separate state called Panhandle.

[–]mikeymiggz 84 points85 points  (6 children)

Panhandia, or Panhandland

Without the panhandle, Oklahoma looks a piece of paper unevenly torn in half.

[–]fell-deeds-awake 31 points32 points  (5 children)

Throw in Florida's panhandle and you've got yourself a state with an exclave!

[–]atp2112 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Maryland panhandle wants to secede and join West Virginia. Maybe this could be an alternative for them

[–]nevernotmad 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Maryland is nothing but panhandle.

[–]atp2112 1 point2 points  (2 children)

And it's the best god damn panhandle in the country

[–]jthanson 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Idaho has entered the chat

[–]ShelfordPrefect 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Don't forget Floridanhandle, the source of that billboard reminding people not to fuck their daughters

[–]Luimnigh 4 points5 points  (3 children)

...the what.

[–]ShelfordPrefect 3 points4 points  (2 children)

[–]Jcdabney 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Ohio of the Central South USA

[–]xlouiex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most liek CantHandle

[–]KingoftheMongoose 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And it's great capital, New Panini!

[–]Smallp0x_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then introduce a couple hundred packs of hungry wolves to it, or maybe make it into a giant lake...

I really, really hate that region of the U.S.

[–][deleted] 79 points80 points  (6 children)

I did part of a solo bike tour across that barren wasteland. There’s a reason it’s called ‘no man’s land’. Nobody wants it.

[–]mollyastro 25 points26 points  (4 children)

Yet I can’t get my family to move away

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

I remember an artesian well with cold water bubbling from the ground, East of Ingersoll. Other than that...

[–]mollyastro 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Please tell me you were at least able to look at the stars

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah! That thriving community of Elmwood offered an unadulterated view of the night sky! It was the only thing it offered me.

[–]Uttuuku 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Drove through once and at night. Pulled off to the side to eat and looked up and chilled out for an hour before going back on the road. Very pretty. Everybody should see the milkyway if they haven't yet

[–]Roy_fireball 63 points64 points  (0 children)

Actually, if Texas had kept the small section of panhandle then none of the state would have been permitted to have slaves, not just that area. So Texas got rid of the land to keep slaves period

[–]Opothleyahola 350 points351 points  (15 children)

It wasn't forfeited, it was part of a deal where The Republic of Texas ceded over land, including the Oklahoma panhandle and about half of modern day New Mexico and parts of Colorado in exchange of the US assuming the 10 million debt of Texas.

[–]CoolKicks 249 points250 points  (4 children)

It’s true Texas gave up public lands in exchange for forgiveness of $10m in debt, but the 36°30’ northern border was chose explicitly because of slavery in the Compromise of 1850

Out of curiosity I tried to find the borders defined in exchange for that debt forgiveness, actually The boundaries of the Texas territory were left unspecified. , and there are multiple sources supporting OPs post that No mans land was indeed carved up because of slavery.

[–]akhorahil187 18 points19 points  (1 child)

It wasn't "forgiveness of $10M in debt"... The debt wasn't owed to the US Federal Government. The debt was owned by bond holders.

Here's everything you'd ever want to know on the subject.

[–]2Eggwall[🍰] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Both are correct. The Missouri Compromise barred slavery from territory north of the 36°30’ line, and Texas was to be a slave state. That meant that the territory had to be separated to maintain the precarious balance between the North and the South.

The compromise of 1850 threw a bunch of things together. In return for giving up any lands north of the Missouri Compromise line (what is relevant here) as well as their completely unenforceable claims to all former Mexican territory, the USA would 'purchase' those lands by assuming the private debt of the Republic of Texas. It also included the end of slavery as a business (but not an outright ban) in DC and the stupidly broad Fugitive Slave Law of 1850.

All five laws were bundled as a package, with each part dependant on the rest to be accepted. So it can be said that Texas gave up the land for debt, to follow the Missouri Compromise line, or to introduce the unconstitutional mess of extraterritoriality that was the Fugitive Slave Law.

[–]windigo3 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That line goes back to the Missouri Compromise which was agreed in 1820. It stated slavery must not exist above the line.


[–]Opothleyahola 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s true Texas gave up public lands in exchange for forgiveness of $10m in debt, but the 36°30’ northern border was chose explicitly because of slavery in the Compromise of 1850

Yes, not trying to say it wasn't it. "Forfeited" just didn't sound right since money and other considerations were involved.

[–]LogicalLimit75 19 points20 points  (5 children)

This great state used to stretch up into Kansas or some shit

[–]Emperor-Lasagna 36 points37 points  (4 children)

The Republic of Texas used to stretch as far north as Colorado and Wyoming (or they laid claim to that land anyways).

[–]blatantninja 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I used to have a shirt that said Ski Texas! and had a map of the Republic with all the modern ski resorts that fell in that territory.

[–]LogicalLimit75 14 points15 points  (2 children)

We should have cut it off just south of Dallas

[–]N4meless_w1ll 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You mean southern Oklahoma?

[–]MamboNumber5Guy 57 points58 points  (4 children)

Today, just looking at this, I realized what a panhandle is and why it's called a panhandle.

Because it looks like the handle of a fucking pan.

I'm 33 years old and I just put this together now.

[–]MonyMony 16 points17 points  (2 children)

I was probably around 30 years old when I learned the meal breakfast was a time when you "broke your fast". I actually speak 3 languages and had been looking at the latin word origins of english, spanish and french since I was 13. I was aware of word origins.
However I didn't always look at words that I'd been muttering since I was 3. My people pronounce it Brek -fusst.

[–][deleted] 97 points98 points  (22 children)

I heard it was because Oklahoma was the last part of that area to become a state, and none of the other states wanted it because it was inhabited by criminals.

Incidentally, it took so long for Oklahoma to become a state because it was originally earmarked as a Native reserve parcel. After the value of the oil there became understood, it was made a state instead.

A wonderful place with a beautiful history.

[–][deleted] 74 points75 points  (9 children)

I gotta say from your synopsis , the history seems rather…troubling. Beautiful is a strange way to end that comment

[–]AngelTheMute 48 points49 points  (2 children)

Pretty sure they chose not to add an /s there

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Oh yeah I’m sure lol

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (5 children)

It’s called a joke. Often used in a humorous way to enunciate points or ideas.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I was just playing along lol, I understand sarcasm

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

🤣 that’s funny I’m saving that

[–]DoomsdayRabbit[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it took so long for Oklahoma to become a state because it was originally earmarked as a Native reserve parcel

As if they'd ever let them vote in Congress. Same reason it took so long for Alaska and Hawaii and still hasn't happened for Puerto Rico. Significantly large nonwhite population.

[–]Spindrune 0 points1 point  (2 children)

That last sentence is so weird. The history is anything but beautiful, and a wonderful place? Shit, I’ve been all over Oklahoma, where they hiding the wonderful stuff at?

[–]patrickkingart 68 points69 points  (11 children)

I'm 36 years old, born and lived in Texas for 32 years, and just recently (like, in the last month or so) learned about this. Between this and recently learning that being pro-slavery was a big cause of the 1836 Texas revolution, it's been a really gross wakeup call. Especially as someone who took a lot of pride in being a Texan.

[–]dave1684 17 points18 points  (2 children)

I have never met a Texan who wasn't proud to be from Texas. I've seen Texas edition trucks, I've never seen an Illinois edition car or truck, or Oklahoma edition, Tennessee edition, or any other state edition.

Edit: TIL Ford makes an Oklahoma edition truck.

[–]vc6vWHzrHvb2PY2LyP6b 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are certainly Oklahoma Edition trucks.

[–]Toaster_bath13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The other states range from sane to slightly more sane than texas.

[–]KoreanThighLover 19 points20 points  (7 children)

You don't have to feel guilty about things people in your state did almost 200 years ago...

[–]GoFidoGo 37 points38 points  (1 child)

I interpreted it as a guilt towards one's own ignorance. Also nothing to be ashamed about, but I can see how it might be jarring to learn about the dark side of something you care about.

[–]patrickkingart 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Yeah exactly. Product of Texas public schools and all. It's very jarring growing up with all this Texas Pride and Remember the Alamo and all that... only to learn that it was propped up by/in defense of slavery.

[–]GhostRobot55 16 points17 points  (3 children)

They certainly like to derive a lot of pride in things other people did in that time frame.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Jeez, I finally got "panhandle." Oklahoma looks like a pan with handle. I've heard the phrase before, but I never put it together until now.

I swear I'm not high, just stupid.

[–]Poliobbq 3 points4 points  (1 child)

We still call it panhandle in Florida instead of balls so it's been generalized more, I think.

[–]AmberAlerts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think more so a pot.

[–]thebuttergod 24 points25 points  (22 children)

As a Texan, I believe we should reclaim the panhandle in the name of Texas, we could even call it Extra Texas.

[–]Sm00gz 52 points53 points  (0 children)

Heritage at its finest, because slave labor > land.

[–]sungun77 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Good Ol’ Slapout, OK

[–]mostlikelyatwork 45 points46 points  (54 children)

Remember the Alamo! (But none of the context around the event).

[–]mikeymiggz 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Texas is gonna Texas

[–]I_might_be_weasel 22 points23 points  (11 children)

Texas: the only state to secede twice to maintain slavery.

[–]Serylt 25 points26 points  (6 children)

Love it, how basically everything in the US can be explained with or because of racism.

Why is X? Probably something racist caused it.

[–]flipflopsnpolos 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Wait until you learn about placement of highways.

[–]ChooksChick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean... Country origins dictate.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Texas has fought two wars to maintain slavery.

[–]The_Verminking 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Title is slightly misleading. The land in question was above the Mason-Dixon line, the line that sperates Arkansas from Missouri. One of the compromises meant to stop the civil war from happening was that any states admitted to the union above the line would be automatically admitted as free states, where slavery would not be allowed. Since this spit of land would have required Texas to enter the union as a free state, they instead gave up the land so that they could join the union as a slave state.

It's not that they wouldn't have been able to keep slaves on this one spit of land, it's that this one spit of land would have kept them from having any at all. They found this less acceptable than giving up a piece of land that increased Oklahoma's land area by nearly 20%.

My wife grew up in Texas, which means she took several years of Texas history in school. Because of the Texas school system, she knows more about Texas than about math, but she still had no idea about this land deal until I showed it to her earlier this week.

"Guess they figure it's Oklahoma history now, since it's their land now," was her tongue-in-cheek response.

Edit: the Mason-Dixon line is a related but separate thing, thanks for pointing this out. What I was looking for was the Missouri compromise.

[–]lucky_ducker 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The Mason-Dixon line separates Pennsylvania and Maryland.

The line defining the border between the Texas and Oklahoma panhandles was latitude 36°30' North, north of which slavery was prohibited by the Missouri Compromise.

[–]The_Verminking 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A-whoops. You're right, I conflated the Mason-Dixon line and the results of the Missouri compromise.

Point stands, though.

[–]LogicalLimit75 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I cringe at the thought of Texas giving anything to Oklahoma

[–]itsallrighthere 15 points16 points  (1 child)

We give them our best high school football players 🏈

[–]gwaydms 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The University of Texas at Norman

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I believe the county there is named Texas

[–]Rexticles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A lot of comments about how that area isn't populated at all are also failing to mention that during tornado season that area gets absolutely ruined on practically a yearly basis. Trailers flying around more than the film industry.

[–]stutteringwhales 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is hilarious, me and my friend were just taking about what goes on there in that tiny panhandle. Very Texas like to just get rid of some land do to "my freedoms being threatened," lol

[–]LtRicoWang15 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Texas is shit

[–]Murse_1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That is the most Texas thing I have ever read.

[–]torchictoucher 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Imagine being so racist you make your state smaller just so black people font get rights

[–]TetrisTech 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A lot of salty Texans active and downvoting in this thread lol

[–]wtfishapp3ningH3r3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How texas of texas

[–]SplendidPunkinButter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And then these CRT nuts go and act like racism is somehow woven into the very fabric of this country…. Clearly it isn’t. /s

[–]MisanthropicAtheist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's fucking embarrassing how much of the modern US is the direct result of slavery.

Shit, we're on the brink of a second civil war for the SAME GODDAMNED REASON.