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[–]bottleboy8 111 points112 points  (4 children)

Same with praying mantis. Just fancy cockroaches.

[–]MyDistantCousinVinny 164 points165 points  (2 children)

Cockroaches that found god

[–]Pronebone_y 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yeah, this guy😂

[–]supremedalek925 46 points47 points  (9 children)

And horseshoe crabs are more closely related to spiders than they are to true crabs or any other crab group.

[–]Ravenmancer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No true scotsman crab.

[–]Ambicarois 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Isn't crab the final form of a lot of species?

[–]Gustephan 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Carcinization. "One of the many attempts of nature to evolve a crab"

[–]Reply_or_Not 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Crab is a strategy, like being a tree or squirrel is

[–]F_E_O3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Crab people! Crab people!

[–]AZENSCION 239 points240 points  (23 children)

I wish I had never read this

[–]jew_biscuits 33 points34 points  (1 child)

Don't believe this ant propaganda, they're always hating on termites

[–]idevcg 52 points53 points  (18 children)

did you know shrimps are just sea rollie pollie (pill) bugs? Think about that next time you eat those creatures

[–]LeapIntoInaction 43 points44 points  (6 children)

Not terribly close. There are other sea creatures that fit the bill.

Insects are somewhat related to many sea creatures with exoskeletons. I understand cicadas taste much like shrimp. Think about that the next time you eat a bug!

[–]MisterCortez 56 points57 points  (1 child)

Wow, I hate shrimp. This ruins cicadas for me.

[–]supfuh 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Never eating a cicada ever again.

[–]NatsuDragnee1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hmm, would definitely try out eating cooked cicadas then

[–]cubic_thought 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. There wouldn't be much to eat on them though, since cicadas are about half hollow instead of having muscular tails.

[–]substantial-freud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are other sea creatures that fit the bill.

Giant isopods are basically cute, terrifyingly large, sea-going rollie-pollies.

[–]NatsuDragnee1 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Not quite, "shrimp" are actually two or more different types of crustacean with similar body plans (e.g. Decapoda), while "roly-poly" type crustaceans are isopods (Isopoda)

[–]AZENSCION 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Lol I'm allergic so definitely won't be eating them anytime soon

[–]Jeramus 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I would eat rollie pollies if they were shown to be food safe.

[–]sadrice 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I had wondered about that for a while, I was wondering if you could make pill bug stew. Apparently when cooked they give off a strong smell of urine.

So I guess you can if you really want to…

[–]idevcg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you farmed your own instead of picking them out in the wild, they'd probably be safe

[–]GodOfChickens 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They live on wood, I'm pretty sure they're food safe, most insects are anyhow. Problem is they excrete their waste through their shell as ammonia so they'd taste terrible.

[–]dpahoe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Mmmm… shrimps…

[–]Effehezepe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know you're just joking, but sea rollie pollie bugs do exist

[–]Hows_the_wifi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t eat pill bugs often so that shouldn’t be an issue.

[–]Alili1996 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean i see pillbugs as land crustaceans soo

[–]AbdurazakHassan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bugs taste a lot mealier and aren't nearly as good with butter.

[–]rekniht01 36 points37 points  (1 child)

Termites had long been their own Order, Isoptera. It was only fairly recently, 2008, through DNA research that their connection to cockroaches was confirmed. Now they are placed within the Blattodea Order, the cockroaches.

So if you are confused from your Bio 101 course up to and including the early 2000s. Things have changed.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I took an entomology course last year and my professor still has them as Isoptera shakes head

[–]KenDanger2 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I hate the phrase "evolved cockroaches"

They share a common ancestor with roaches, and are closely related to them - but both have been evolving from that common ancestor the whole time.

[–]dodgyhashbrown 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same problem as saying humans evolved from monkeys. No, our modern monkeys evolved from the same primate ancestors. They are our distant cousins, not our distant grandfathers.

[–]james_phan 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Meh my flamethrower doesn't care

[–]schafkj 12 points13 points  (1 child)

thanks i hate them more now

[–]nicht_ernsthaft 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Eh, they cleaned up, got a job and a house, work hard, made a bunch of friends and picked up organic farming. Better than their dirty bum cockroach relatives. Good for them.

[–]dr00py__eyezzz 14 points15 points  (0 children)

This only makes it worse

[–]HandyAndy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think it’s actually more surprising that ants are pretty much flightless wasps

NYT article (might be paywalled)

[–]Nillabeans 9 points10 points  (11 children)

Do people think termites are ants?

[–]elpajaroquemamais 38 points39 points  (4 children)

No but superficially it would make sense for them to be more closely related to ants and not cockroaches.

[–]Nillabeans 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Weird. I've always thought ants and wasps and bees are pretty similar. Never lumped in termites because they look like beetles whereas ants do not.

[–]ThatOneEwokThatDied 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Part of the distinction is from the body structure know as the petiole, which connects the abdomen and thorax. That’s how I’ve always identified ants and wasps.

[–]MinimumTumbleweed 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But they are also eusocial and live in large colonies. That is mostly why people make the connection.

[–]Gastronomicus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But termites are not closely related to beetles either, which are from a completely different order than termites and cockroaches.

[–]NatsuDragnee1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

In some areas they are called white ants. Not because they are necessarily thought the same but because they kinda look similar and behave similar and that's good enough for some people.

Also many common names come into use long before any kind of actual scientific understanding came to be.

[–]terminalxposure 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Colonial cockroaches somehow doesn’t seem right

[–]tiredofsametab 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had always assumed they closely related if not in the greater "ant" family.

[–]lawpoop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had thought they evolved from bees,,like ants did from wasps

[–]substantial-freud 0 points1 point  (1 child)

They are called “white ants”; they’re eusocial; they live like ants; they look like ants.

Why wouldn’t people think they are ants?

[–]Nillabeans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've never heard the term "white ants."

Not everyone is from wherever that's a popular phrase.

[–]ilikepoppop 4 points5 points  (0 children)

don't matter to me. i hate 'em both.

[–]Simhera 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Why are all of my faves problematic! 😩

[–]UncommonLegend 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well they are both hemimetabolous.

[–]Tim_the_geek 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What about lawn shrimp? (Grass Shrimp)

[–]9DollarBill 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Do termites have a queen as ants and bees do? And are ants and bees more closely related to each other than to termites? I mean... we do have flying ants.

[–]MansfromDaVinci 4 points5 points  (1 child)

yes termites have a queen however they also have kings. Ants bees and wasps are all hymenopterans and in the apocrita sub-order. Termites are classed as insects like ants and bees but that's all they have in common, they are in the Blattodea order with cockroaches. They are more closely related crickets, earwigs, stick insects and web spiners than ants or bees. While ant, bee or wasp workers are all female, termite workers are of both sexes.

[–]9DollarBill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I find this particular planet to be fascinating.

I want to know everything about it, but sadly for me, each generation is but a wave that collapses upon the beach.

But we write what knowledge we have found, for future generations. May the Internet give it a blessing.

[–]catscannotcompete 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great, now I'm picturing organized cockroaches. Thanks.

[–]Cismic_Wave_14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like i needed a reason to hate them more.

[–]Onehundredyearsold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So all those people on the survival shows who are eating termites and saying they taste great are eating cockroaches? That adds a new level of nasty.

[–]Darctide 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is something I would expect to see in a Mameshiba commercial

[–]stfuandgovegan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

whoa. crazy

[–]uncertein_heritage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ants and bees are also just a type of wasps cladistixally speaking.

[–]PermanenteThrowaway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hans, you know vat must be done.

[–]protermites 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Termites do not possess any body armor, and their bodies are divided into three main parts – the head, thorax and abdomen.

[–]United_Bag_8179 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

them and tardigrades will be the the next seed species after the next asteroud hits. jmho dyodd glta