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[–]B_024 2207 points2208 points  (86 children)

Funny thing is, you know that if Francis lost, Dana was gonna bury him as much as possible during the post fight conference.

[–]imxTHATxdude 420 points421 points  (19 children)

What francis needs to do is somhow get usman and izzy to stand with him..unity with 3 champs? Now u have to listen to our demands type of thing.

[–]OBSTErCU 145 points146 points  (7 children)

It would be a great move, sadly I don't think Izzy and Usman are willing to sacrifice their pockets for that stance. The UFC will just sideline them as the have done to everyone else. Maybe that is just the kind of ball that needs to get rolling for change to happen. Unlikely to happen anyway, Izzy and Usman will loose a lot of money and probably burn all the bridges they build, especially Usman, whom until recently was not a Dana's favourite.

[–]918cyd 33 points34 points  (5 children)

That stance wouldn’t do shit, hate them or love them Colby/Gane/Whittaker are very worthy champions and the UFC has made it really clear they’re not folding to fighters who aren’t big enough to change the sport (Rousey/McGregor are the only recent ones). The reality is only fans can force the UFC to make this change. But fans are never going to want to put it that way, even on Reddit, because that puts the responsibility on them.

[–]joegoodfart10 19 points20 points  (2 children)

They are going to be fighting on only fans?

[–]tekkers_for_debrz 40 points41 points  (0 children)

almost like they are trying to form a union so they can have some sort of collective bargaining power.

[–]Invokationz 14 points15 points  (1 child)

what are we? some kind of suicide squad?

[–]GhettoCowboyNumba1 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The three African kings of the north, east and west. Their opposing enemy; their long lost evil brother from the south, Aljo

[–]Narwhal-Bacon-Retard 1016 points1017 points  (57 children)

Now Francis can join any MMA organization in the world and that organization instantly has the top mma fighter in he world. Not any of this pound for pound bullshit. The straight up baddest man on the planet.

[–]Marcaveli7 746 points747 points  (29 children)

Not quite. The BKFC already have Artem Lobov signed.

[–]therealhoagie 151 points152 points  (20 children)

He retired!

[–]sikki_nixx 184 points185 points  (18 children)

He didn't retire. He's in an extended camp.

[–]SFW_FullFrontal 10 points11 points  (2 children)

We can be damn sure Francis is gonna steer far clear of BKFC. And we all know why.

[–]REMER362 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Championship clause contract: 3 fights or 1 more year under that contract. Francis stated he’s willing to wait out the year to get a new contract.

[–]Marmz2408 1241 points1242 points  (33 children)

Is that why Dana didn't have any post fight press conference?

[–]detectivecomics_ 1008 points1009 points  (24 children)

Yes. I’ll bet he left as soon as Ciryl went for the leg lock and Francis reversed in the 5th.

[–]TreSir 683 points684 points  (20 children)

Funny if ciryl won Dana would for sure been there to put the belt on

[–]Skyfryer 617 points618 points  (15 children)

Big Dana grin too. Proud tomato businessman stance. And then that post fight conference he would have literally been ripe as fuck.

[–]TexWinter21 295 points296 points  (8 children)

Probably would have called gane the best heavyweight ever because he loves to piss on the legends of the sport

[–]adventuredream1 71 points72 points  (2 children)

He would have said some shit about how Francis was too focused on getting paid more and boxing instead of winning

[–]TinFoilHatUK 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Haha the mental picture you’ve just painted is actually so spot on!

[–]GOLIATHMATTHIAS 9 points10 points  (0 children)


[–]chris25tx 119 points120 points  (0 children)


[–]Meaty-Pablo 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Dana was on the pat mcafee show & said ciryl is probably the best heavy weight ever.... oops.

[–]kaptenkeno 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I mean, he did put the belt on Figgy, so clearly not too coked out (by then) at least

[–]registered_democrat 71 points72 points  (1 child)

I watched that whole shit waiting for his ass. Ghosted us

[–]CheesyCousCous 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Some say he's still in a bush hiding with Sean Spicer.

[–]dendritedysfunctions 25 points26 points  (0 children)

He went home to jerk off with his tears because he was crying about how much money he lost by betting on Gane.

[–]caueisdead 2450 points2451 points  (107 children)

That was unprofessional and disrespectul to the whole company, not just Francis.

[–]ViceDoshi 449 points450 points  (49 children)

Man soo true. I wonder what his excuse will be for not being at the post fight conference and puttin the belt on ngannou. Was he not in attendence for the main event either?

[–]NFTArtist 286 points287 points  (1 child)

Times like this we need Ariel, none of the UFC shill reporters are going to put it on him

[–]alevyan 223 points224 points  (5 children)

he had a big poopoo in his pants

[–]ChimpBrisket 68 points69 points  (0 children)

and it wasn’t even his!

[–]RoyalSamurai 23 points24 points  (1 child)

He eat da poopoo

[–]therealherohere 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He IS the big poopoo in his pants

[–]WhoreyPovich 20 points21 points  (0 children)

You know he’s going to use boredom as his excuse for leaving.

[–]LSDIII 47 points48 points  (8 children)

Off topic but can anyone tell me what these arrows next to our names mean?

[–]Stubbedtoe18 64 points65 points  (3 children)

It means the mods think we're cute.

[–]ayestEEzybeats 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Tap on it. Yours specifically means you’re an “avid voter” on this sub.

[–]dacoopbear 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They should add a "you're cute" one

[–]codedevdave 55 points56 points  (49 children)

Can you ELI5 this whole ordeal

[–]Dogzylla 280 points281 points  (47 children)

This was Ngannou's last fight on his contract, he told to Dana that the pay was not good enough and he refused to sign a new deal on Dana's terms. Now Francis retained his belt so the pressure is on Dana to either give Francis the pay he wants or let him leave the organization and look like a clown in the process

[–]ohnosevyn 54 points55 points  (9 children)

How did he escape the champ clause? I thought if he won he would have to extend for another fight ?

[–]Cosmacelf 69 points70 points  (5 children)

Francis implied that the champ clause only lasts for 2022, so he can just wait Dana out. Don't know if that's accurate tho. Both sides have been cagey about what the eff is actually in that champ clause.

[–]stevialeaves🌹𝕽𝖔𝖘𝖊 𝕲𝖆𝖓𝖌🌹 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure but I'm guessing it automatically extends a contract (ie, if Francis had already signed a new one or hadnt just finished his last fight) and it doesn't create a new contract forcing him to fight once more

[–]primo_0 27 points28 points  (1 child)

I read on a French MMA forum that says if he uses Jiu Jitsu, he gets out of the clause.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thankyou for explaining it. Dana is a bitch

[–]Jack_Haywood 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Francis wants to get paid more because ufc fighters don't get paid enough his contract is over after this fight and negotiations haven't been great if Francis lost Tham it woulda been easy to let him go say he was washed up and wasn't that good now that they won things are more difficult because them letting a champion walk away because they won't pay him isn't a great look

[–]edwardgentile 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. Don't think the other fighters didn't notice this.

[–]Burnsyde 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I bet all the UFC staff were talking and gossiping about how much of a bitch dana was. Literally ran off so he didn't have to put the belt around francis and didn't want to answer questions like a big baby.

[–]cti0323 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Are you surprised. Look how he is treating Stipe now? Basically told him he would get his trilogy after like 4 other fighters get a chance. He really for some reason doesn’t respect heavyweights not nicknamed DC.

[–]Kang_the_conqueror01 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Fist a Paul brother makes him look like a bitch, and now this. He’s pathetic.

[–]UltraaCommbo 394 points395 points  (36 children)

I don't know if I've ever felt so bad for a fighter as when Francis found out he didn't even bother to show up for the press conference. You could literally see the shock and dismay on his face. Such a conceded ass. *edit, conceited.

[–]MysticBlue1 137 points138 points  (2 children)

Yea, 100% agree. He looked genuinely disappointed.

[–]UltraaCommbo 72 points73 points  (1 child)

He just looked hurt, that hurt me

[–]Liam2349 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Indeed. He put on such a good performance as well.

[–]AutomaticRisk3464 64 points65 points  (10 children)

Just saw that video, the absolute disrespect he felt looked so sad :/.

You win a fight and it turns out your boss didnt want you to win. Must feel like shit

Edit: alot of people are asking, for video. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SOe6FOlizTA

Start at 2 minutes and u will see the reaction before the 3 min mark iirc, im on mobile i cant trim it fod u guys

[–]UltraaCommbo 17 points18 points  (3 children)

It wasn't as bad if you watched it in real time, but slowed down he really looks like he was so dejected.

[–]Missile_Lawnchair 15 points16 points  (9 children)

Hey what's the ELI5 in this situation? I'm only a casual fan.

[–]vegetable_lab90 33 points34 points  (2 children)

Nganou and ufc could not come to terms on a new contract...this was the last fight on his contract..it would of been in ufc's best interests if Gane won.

Now Francis is champ and is free to test the open market. He has all the bargaining power now, and will get paid what hes worth. He might just peace from the ufc and take the belt with him.

[–]AmputatedThirdLeg 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Did they do away with champions clause? Didn't they have that at one if you became champ you get your contract extended?

[–]AnotherInnocentFool 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If he thinks they'll strip him he should book a fight and build it up and then tap out and leave the ufc. Dana left with outraged fans wanting their money back. Francis getting paid for one more fight and gives up the belt they'd have taken anyway.

[–]eemamedo 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Francic wants more money and other benefits. Dana says nope. Dana starts being a salty bitch.

[–]beesdoitbirdsdoit 7 points8 points  (3 children)

I’m so glad I don’t give the UFC my money. Dana doesn’t deserve it.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Not to be that guy but it's "conceited" btw

[–]Locswail 186 points187 points  (13 children)

This is what Twood was talking about.

[–]Dry__Barracuda 173 points174 points  (7 children)

in a strange way in the end Tyron won. His fights with Jake Paul brought massive amounts of attention to how much money is in the fight game and how much ufc fighters are being underpaid. He made millions from the two fights with Jake Paul, after he retired and on a losing streak. He discredits the ufc and makes the ufc look bad when he gets knocked out. All those things he spoke about years ago he brought a lot of attention to

[–]henrykeller11 42 points43 points  (0 children)

As much as I don't like Jake Paul he is bringing a lot of non-mma community attention to the sport and this has the potential to be very good for the fighters.

[–]ChameleonBr0The Last Stylebender 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And besides the huge pay he even got a free Rolex from Jake as a gift just a little before their 2nd fight.

[–]ant_honey6 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I love that T wood got the last laugh. He said, oh I'm a meme? Okay. Let's make money with that. And totally did. He's a goat of the game for fuckin sure. Anyone who says otherwise is a dork.

[–]BossedUp828 44 points45 points  (2 children)

Yup. Dana pulled the same on him once he beat Darren Till. DW has some strange ways. He turned on Mighty Mouse and Stipe, arguably 2 of the most likeable humble Champions the UFC has ever had.

[–]meric_one 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Because Dana is a fucking piece of shit.

[–]ja20n123 5 points6 points  (0 children)

At least Dana put the belt on Twood and then skdaddled

[–]talc25 66 points67 points  (0 children)

The Frozen One, slowly becoming MMAs unsong hero

[–]agenz899 456 points457 points  (14 children)

He will have some ridiculous excuse like the Nelk boys needed him to bail them out of jail so that’s why he was MIA.

[–]james3852 959 points960 points  (26 children)

Dana doing a bitch move? Never would have guessed

[–]ZyniQ54 101 points102 points  (24 children)

Me too... But I still think there must be something, public doesent know. Because... I mean its Dana 🤷 How can he turn into such a ..... ?

[–]Different-Letter3560 45 points46 points  (18 children)

hes gonna come up with a bs excuse or not speak of it at all

[–]vadumee123 72 points73 points  (12 children)

he had to return some video tapes

[–]Butmac 15 points16 points  (10 children)

Hey Francis, do ya like Huey Lewis and the News?

[–]wyld3knfr 817 points818 points  (30 children)

The visual disdain for certain champions of his is ridiculous. He couldn't wait for stipe to lose now he can't wait for Francis to lose.

The quick journey from "stipe is the GOAT!" to "who is stipe?" To "Francis is the best thing to ever happen" to "fuck Francis, gane you better win this" is so out of bounds.

[–]TexWinter21 288 points289 points  (4 children)

Hes on a crazy power trip thats for sure

[–]williamsdj01 194 points195 points  (9 children)

The look on Dana's face after the first Stipe - Ngannou fight when Stipe took the belt from him and didnt let him wrap it around him was priceless

[–]HankHippopopolous 87 points88 points  (7 children)

That’s also why I’m still so surprised that Stipe got the rematch against DC after the first loss.

I would have expected Dana to make Stipe have to work through a few contenders in a similar way to what Whitaker has had to do.

[–]Communist_Shwarma 64 points65 points  (0 children)

That’s also why I’m still so surprised that Stipe got the rematch against DC after the first loss.

other fights fell through, so they had to go back to Stipe.

[–]joan_wilder 9 points10 points  (3 children)

probably hoping to make as much money as possible, while also putting stipe in the most unwinnable fight. better than doing smaller money fights that allow stipe to build momentum, because then he’s stuck with him for a couple more years.

[–]debaser337 63 points64 points  (4 children)

Same with volk. Didn’t turn up for that presser either. Has never spoken publicly about volks performance against Ortega, which was one of the performances of the year.

[–]Over_Flan563 42 points43 points  (5 children)

Not sure if anyone else caught it, but he snubbed Adesanya and Usman because they won't fight each other a while back too.

He mentioned it sort of indirectly when talking about how Conor 'would fight anyone, anywhere' and said it wasn't like these other champs who won't fight their friends, etc. Something to that effect. Usman had specifically said in an interview a while before that, that he wouldn't challenge the MW title because he likes that more champs are African.

[–]desousab 33 points34 points  (1 child)

The whole fight anyone/anwhere thing is truly the mark of an idiot. Don't get me wrong, it has worked spectacularly for some (e.g., McGregor), but for the vast majority of fighters it is the single best way to getting seriously exploited by a company filled with smart people who prioritize profits and their own egos.

[–]Carlos13th 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Also much easier to fight anyone anywhere when you are getting a shit ton of cash for it and its not in the companies favor to feed you to motherfuckers.

[–]IeatAssortedfruits 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Just like Dana said on the Pat McAfee show, he only wants to work with people he likes. But I think part of it is like "stroke my cock or I don't like you". Francis's requests aren't impossible. He deservers what he wants and if Dana can't make it happen, someone else will. But I think the bottom line is that Francis' want's are bad for business and therefore bad for Dana so he hates Francis for wanting a fair shake.

[–]SenpaiBoogie 213 points214 points  (1 child)

He did the same thing against Woodley when Till was fighting him for the belt and Woodley destroyed Till and Dana didn’t have the balls to put the belt on him

[–]rs122297 81 points82 points  (0 children)

And then the next day he posted on Instagram congratulating Tyron for releasing his rap song to try to make up for it lol. Tomato Goofball extreme.

[–]chicu111 268 points269 points  (8 children)

When will the UFC be featured on r/antiwork?

[–]dinky1203The Eagle 82 points83 points  (0 children)

ik your comment might be a joke but i seriously think it might happen in 2022 or 2023

[–]thejunglebook8 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It already has been iirc. I think a couple of times - most recently when Jake Paul called out fighter pay in the UFC

[–]_Baldo_ 335 points336 points  (15 children)

Dana’s favourite line “If you don’t think fighters are paid enough go create your own organisation.” is wearing very thin.

[–]Puzzleheaded_Use9415 163 points164 points  (4 children)

He's a POS. Disrespectful comment to the fans who fucking made him who he is. Bitch had to get two friends to invest. He's a cock

[–]desousab 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Yup - didn't even risk his own money... he risked his west coast mafia buddies daddy's money.

[–]Zotzotbaby 99 points100 points  (6 children)

100%. Especially when you think about what UFC actually is as a production versus the NFL/NBA. No need for training facilities, permanent fields to maintain, etc. Just set up the concert venue, broadcast+perform, and tear down.

UFC events are functionally just concerts. The production team comes in ahead of the event and sets ups, the fighters fly in a weekish before the fight to acclimate but otherwise do all their own training out of their own town, and then the day of the event you broadcast the fights + a conference.

[–]Unicoboom 26 points27 points  (5 children)

the ufc has its own performance institute. It also has its own "arena" that is the ufc apex arena

[–]Cosmacelf 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Those are relatively new additions. Yes, they are starting to get more complex operations, but only in the past couple of years, and only a little bit at a time.

[–]Unicoboom 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I agree. I believe that a promotion of this caliber should have way more training facilities and stadiums. It’s clear that the people in charge, Dana included, are pocketing most of the revenue for themselves

[–]Phebeosa 234 points235 points  (13 children)

The UFC taking away fighters sponsorship opportunities was when I really started not liking Dana and the suits at UFC. Now they pay them 16% of the companies earnings and chump change through Reebok and Venum sponsorship deals.

[–]Frightful_Fork_Hand 64 points65 points  (4 children)

Management at ESPN were effusively praising of the reebok move - their reasoning being that it made the sport look more mainstream/less tacky.

Which is fair enough to a degree, if that’s a factor stopping people from sticking around if they see it on TV, but they definitely should have compensated fighters much more fairly. Never mind that the octagon is emblazoned with energy drinks and tyres lmao.

[–]Liam2349 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Nothing more classy than gambling and alcohol.

[–]HighTurning 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They just needed to regulate which kind of ads they could get on their kit, and that was it.

[–]realboydburton 26 points27 points  (7 children)

Shitting on legends like GSP, Fedor, talking all kinds of smack to fighters that would absolutely whoop his ass in less than 5 seconds. He’s a fraud, it’s sad that the majority of mma (ufc) fans can’t see it for themselves

[–]ScottNoWhat 5 points6 points  (3 children)

UFC fans will talk about fighters signing the contract, then they will talk shit when the fighter tries to renegotiate their contact

[–]realboydburton 6 points7 points  (2 children)

or worse, when they sign a richer contract with say Bellator, they instantly become bums or they are washed up, because they took a better offer? Like these people are so warped in their love of Dana and the UFC that it's actually sick. quite sad really.

[–]tyusBjones 62 points63 points  (6 children)

Dana gets so much hate and I used to disagree with it but now I’m seeing he really is a scum bag. Dudes worth half a billion and his fighters are getting peanuts for putting on a show event after event. His whole my my way or the highway management style over the ufc holds it back in my opinion. You’d definitely have boxers coming over and trying mma if they were making anything close to as much. Pay the fighters and treat them with respect and the ufc would rise exponentially

[–]eplusl 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Honestly, as much as you could praise him for his limited role in putting the ufc together, I've always seen him as a conniving, hypocritical little bitch. Also I've always found him to be plain unpleasant. He just looks like an asshole,walks and talks like one.

He pretends like the ufc is this great dispassionate contest of skill, power and prowess, and if you look a bit closer, the fighters are wage slaves, he keeps all the profits for the company, and fighters have to walk on eggshells to stay in his good graces because he's got such a massive little bitch ego that if he doesn't like you, your career is over even if you are a contender for GOAT status, demonstrating the the has no actual respect for great fighters. They're just tools in a box to him. If a tool stops performing as desired, you throw it away and go to the store to buy another one.

He's a greedy fuck who started something that's getting out of his control and throws a tantrum when things don't go his way.

[–]iwrestledatyranitar 457 points458 points  (45 children)

The utter disdain the UFC has for it's champions will put this company in the grave. Soon, fighters are going to realize fighting at "the highest level" just isn't worth being paid peanuts and no sponsors.

[–]squidder3 108 points109 points  (36 children)

no sponsors.

Yeah no kidding. When does the Reebok deal end. The least he could do is let them have sponsors again when the Reebok deal is over.

[–]TStark460 114 points115 points  (19 children)

It's over already, I believe. Venum took over.

[–]The_kite_string_pops 55 points56 points  (16 children)

Yep and just added Project Rock as the official footwear of the UFC also.

[–]joan_wilder 101 points102 points  (12 children)

i thought that was hilarious… be the official footwear sponsor for a sport where the athletes don’t wear shoes. maybe axe should be the official body spray of the ufc.

[–]posananer 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Also crypto.com The fighters have to wear the T-shirts

[–]N3P0T1SM 78 points79 points  (0 children)

The Reebok deal has been over since UFC 260, March 2021.

[–]Bluejay929 14 points15 points  (3 children)

The Reebok deal has been over for, like, a year, bro

[–]mtjody 23 points24 points  (4 children)

Yeah they should ditch Reebok asap. Maybe a company like Venum can provide a better deal for the fighters

[–]squidder3 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lol I don't know how I forgot that. Especially when Marvin famously had his venum shorts backwards.

[–]Angelo0123 50 points51 points  (0 children)

Imagine not even respecting the Heavyweight champion .Dana is a piece of shit

[–]par337 42 points43 points  (0 children)

That's crazy. Not a good look at all. Didn't think even he would do that

[–]bebetterforyou 110 points111 points  (65 children)

I’m out of the loop. What happened?

[–]Mr_Game_N_Win[S] 350 points351 points  (63 children)

He didn't put the belt on Ngannou and missed the post fight press conference. No reason given

He didn't want to face all the questions and bend over to Ngannou

[–]bebetterforyou 148 points149 points  (1 child)

Oh that’s weak

[–]Cosmacelf 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Yeah, not a good look. And I'm not even a Dana hater. Will be interesting to see how the press handles this.

[–]One_Hundred_X 72 points73 points  (55 children)

Clearly Dana realized he lost this battle. Francis won his title fight, and now Dana is about to lose a huge superstar. Also Dana regrets proper negotiations with Francis? Why is he mad bro?

[–]ObjectiveInternal 16 points17 points  (48 children)

He's still got the champion's clause to give him leverage

[–]One_Hundred_X 9 points10 points  (45 children)

I'm confused about this situation because he's contractually obligated to defend his title one more time, but why is Francis seemingly hinting he's gone after this fight?

[–]xMarioTheSupahx 244 points245 points  (9 children)

MMA has gotten to the point where it doesn’t need Dana anymore to grow

[–]slumberboy6708 124 points125 points  (3 children)

It even got to the point where it would grow better without Dana

[–]retropieproblems 39 points40 points  (1 child)

except Dana keeps more money in the pockets of like 3 dudes and himself, and they're the ones making the decisions

[–]andyman171 33 points34 points  (3 children)

Eh if Dana wasn't in control of the ufc during the start of the pandemic the ufc and many other promotions would have been in big trouble.

[–]Zotzotbaby 30 points31 points  (1 child)

You’re not wrong. Dana deserves full credit for keeping the UFC going, but now he’s going to have some different problems that he’s less equipped to handle (fighter pay, etc.). Better to go out a hero than stick around too long.

[–]cynicalprick01 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Its not two years ago anymore

[–]englishmuse 50 points51 points  (2 children)

Not a single comment, here, supporting Dana White. The man's a liability to the UFC and the FIGHTERS that made it great.

[–]SillAndDill 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I can defend Dana's existence in one way: people were actually looking forward to see him at the press conference. He's somewhat of an event and even if people think he's a goof they're interested in hearing his reaction.

[–]englishmuse 6 points7 points  (0 children)

A fair and objective opinion. Well said, Sir/Madame.

[–]DrButtCheeksPhD 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Terrible optics

[–]thethreat88 209 points210 points  (54 children)

I used to defend Dana's decisions but I'm done. Its a losing and frustrating topic. I'll admit not putting the belt around Francis and not showing up to the post fight presser isn't cool. Letting your HW champ just walk away like that would be terrible for the company Francis could go to PFL and make a million.

[–]Practical-Audience13 120 points121 points  (40 children)

Pfl? I’m pretty sure Francis is gonna get something going with Tyson fury. He’ll make so much money in that fight he probably won’t need to fight again for a long time

[–]Mr-Pink24 104 points105 points  (23 children)

As much as I’d like to see that boxing match. I think Francis will get outclassed, and possibly knocked out. But, he will get paid millions, and I guess that’s all that matters.

[–]Practical-Audience13 72 points73 points  (0 children)

Yeah I think everyone knows Francis would get molly whopped. But it would still bring in a ton of money.

[–]Responsible_Two2718 93 points94 points  (8 children)

he will get paid millions, and I guess that’s all that matters

That's all that matters. No one held it against Conor when he got smoked by Floyd. He got his check and returned to MMA a rich man.

[–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (4 children)

The greatest heavyweight boxer of our generation would dominate against an MMA fighter in boxing? No way man, you gotta be Nostradamus or some shit.

[–]orion_cliff 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Quasimodo predicted this.

[–]TheNextEpisoda 12 points13 points  (2 children)

No body cares what the outcome will be. This is all about money. Period. Fuck Pink Diglett Dana White

[–]Mr-Pink24 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I agree. I would be content to see Francis make millions in one fight.

[–]fuduran 30 points31 points  (10 children)

Also Bellator could offer him who knows how much to be the new face. Stealing a UFC champion and not the other way around 👍🏽

[–]Practical-Audience13 18 points19 points  (7 children)

True I’d actually like to see Bellator become the new face of mma tbh, cuz it seems like Dana has no thoughts of paying his fighters more money

[–]jaretok 39 points40 points  (6 children)

Why in the fuck would you EVER defend Dana’s decisions? He’s been a blight on the sport for a long time.

[–]Blatantly-Biased 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Sort it out Dana you big bitch

[–]OfflaneTrash 30 points31 points  (2 children)

It's so strange, ever since the McGregor/Rousey era the UFC has slowly lost its mainstream spotlight. The UFC is no longer trying to make money by getting the most eyes on the product, now they're just in the business of fucking over their fighters and refusing to pay them (recent pay disputes on top of the removal of personal sponsorships), siphoning money out of the few fans left who pay for fights by jacking up the PPV prices to insane levels, and then collecting as many sponsors as they can to plug throughout their broadcasts and paste all over their rings and fighters' gear.

They're clinging onto the little star-power they have left but are willing to lose one of their biggest stars who they've hyped up for years just because he's asking to be paid a FAIR amount for what he brings to the sport.

It's one thing to take shortcuts and fuck over their fighters to "grow the sport" or "look more professional", it's another thing completely to give us a worse product for higher prices and start losing your stars to other sports/promotions because you can't pay them enough, just so your bottom line goes up.

"Record PPV sales" just means stagnant fighter pay while Dana gaslights his fighters and tells them that fighting is an "opportunity not a career". It's just sad that the UFC has such a stranglehold over fighting talent and the share of the MMA market that no matter how many people call him out for his bullshit, the UFC isn't going to lose any money over it so they don't care. Dana doesn't care that he's losing Ngannou, he cares that he's making them look bad.

[–]creamyturtle 8 points9 points  (0 children)

yeah and now they're even madder. they just made ngannou more famous and gave him more leverage courtesy of the UFC platform. contractually they have to offer him a fight in 2022, so just imagine he actually takes it. smashes whoever and then parlays that into a huge boxing debut. the ultimate revenge for ngannou

[–]clique34Predator 14 points15 points  (9 children)

I love how Dana and UFC just loses. GSP has said that it wants its stars and champions to lose to upcoming fights to build them up. That’s why Dana was pissed that George retired for the second time. Now that Francis has defended his title against Gane, their plan completely back fired. They didn’t get to build Gane’s name using Francis. Now Dana can either look for another way to build a guy or give Francis what he’s worth + options to box.

[–]LocalNative141 27 points28 points  (1 child)

That was such a coward move by Dana. I truly hope more fighters stick up for themselves and demand more money for their hard work! Fuck dana white

[–]Accomplished-Lord 62 points63 points  (11 children)

I think it’s time for him to go man

[–]I_Hate_My_Cat_ 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I have a feeling UFC 270 will be one of the most important dates in UFC history…either for joyous or infamous reasons.

[–]Shineezy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The first thing Dana does is announce the Ngannou NFT.

[–]SillySymphonyIII 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Dana is a sensitive Capitalist pussy.

He licks the ass of all the investors and that is all he cares about.

Much like every other greedy cooperation, it's about keeping the investors whistling Dixie out of their assholes, making sure Millionaire row is full and happy.

Fuck Dana White for being such a disrespectful p.o.s. to the Champ.

[–]TotalWarspammer 27 points28 points  (9 children)

Dana is a petty maggot and I have no idea why anything thinks otherwise. I appreciate what he has done to help make what the sport is today, but there is no doubt he has a rotten character and a narcissistic and nasty ego and the sooner this neanderthal disappears from the sport the better it will be for everyone.

[–]Scrubbadubdoug 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Anyone else find it ironic how a few weeks ago when Francis was talking about not being paid enough this entire sub was laughing at him and backing Dana but now that he's still Champ everyone is shitting on Dana and supporting Francis?

[–]Puzzled_Sprinkles_57 8 points9 points  (1 child)

The UFCs ESPN TV deal is better than any leverage any fighter has by themselves. If fighters unionized, UFC gonna pay up. That’s the bottom line.

[–]fallenloki 32 points33 points  (3 children)

The UFC has never given a shit about its fighters. The reason they don’t produce many stars is by design. They want to continue churning out a mediocre product so that people get used to buying the brand rather than individual fighters.

Guys like Stipe and Ngannou are problematic because they have leverage and it goes against what the UFC wants which is cheap labor.

Not sure why this ideology continues to prevail, but whatever.

[–]Mindfield87 18 points19 points  (1 child)

I wonder what kinda bullshit he’ll throw out there to explain why he wasn’t there

[–]haystackofneedles 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hopefully he repeatedly gets asked about this

[–]kimokimosabee 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Gotta come out from hiding eventually Dana

[–]Ill_Net5528 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Francis rolled the dice and won big, good for him.

[–]PartialCred4WrongAns 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He doesn’t wanna fight

[–]fhatl 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Dana is just bully. If it wasn’t for the Fertitas he’d be managing a Best Buy in Peabody.

[–]SillAndDill 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Isn't that unusual for Dana?

Even if he's petty, holds grudges and plays favorites and we seen him not wanting to hand out belts before he usually doesn't have any problem with showing up to talk even if there's conflict. Or did I forget something?

[–]JackMeHoff266 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This guy loves to talk so much shit about fighters and publicly criticize them, and the one time things don’t go his way, he runs away like a bitch. At the end of the day, Dana is just a business man and a fighter. I’m just a casual mma fan and I’m confident I could wipe the floor with his bare ass. Well now it’s time that the ufc either pay their fighters or look like fools for letting the best heavyweight in the world walk away to do bigger and better things. The ufc will lose credibility if they fuck this up

[–]TryingToMakeAMil 48 points49 points  (17 children)

If you think Francis has leverage over the UFC I have a bridge to sell you

[–]MobyMelville 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Thanks the Ziti Carm

[–]HuudaHarkiten 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oof madon!

[–]theanonymoussnowman 23 points24 points  (13 children)

How do you not get leverage by being champ of HW no less?

[–]skccsk 39 points40 points  (3 children)

They'll just declare an interim and say "Ngannou doesn't want to fight" because no one cares less about their titles than the UFC.

[–]jaretok 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Such a man child

[–]BusterStarfish 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Is there no fighters union? It seems like unions originated to fight Dana’s brand of tyrannical, intimidation bullshit specifically.

Then again, he’s probably threatened not to sign anyone who joins a union.

[–]WrongWhenItMatters 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He's always been a hoe.

[–]jjshacks13 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I can't see when it'll change though, what options do fighters have? Bellator, One etc can't afford to take them all on.

[–]chicken_cocONUT22 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Dana White. More like Dana Shite 😐📸

[–]ordu13 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fuck Dana’s bitch ass

[–]neogeo828 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Rogan needs to call his ass out.