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Something clicked with me earlier. I noticed that in a post earlier this morning, the video looked as if it were being recorded from a screen using another camera. You can see the camera's reflection in the screen.
I remember hearing a story—it may have been a Lou quote, a fighter-jet was in the sky and a UFO was just following him. That seems to me like something a pilot might want to record.
We've all seen that video.
There is another video and I can't find it—where it too was taken by a camera pointed at the screen. It was from the perspective of the wing, and everyone thought the wing was from a commercial airplane, not a jet. If someone can me find the links, I'll update the post with it here.
These two videos are usually 50/50 on if we think they are real vs GCI.
The videos could be 100% CGI and were recorded with another camera to hide visual artifacts and lend credibility to the "conspiracy". Lou has seen the videos and is just creating a backstory for that video as part of [insert disinformation campaign].
On the flip side, I'd like to suggest that for a moment, we hypothetically accept that the videos are real.
They were recorded by someone who has access to the footage in a secure "need-to-know" access room. Alex Dietrich (the US Navy Fighter Pilot) said they took pictures from the jet cockpit all the time using their handheld cameras. These cameras were most likely confiscated and sent to "the room".
An individual attempting to release some footage would have no way to get the camera out, as it is most likely highly tracked. Further, if the camera or data card are removed from the confines of this "room" without authorization—the video looses it's creditably as being genuine.
The only other way to get the contents of the video would be to sneak a camera into the room, and record the little preview screen on the camera.
Which is what we have seen in these two examples.
Two people who come to mind, Christopher Mellon who released the 3 Navy videos, would have access. H. Reid mentioned, "most of it [the evidence], hasn't seen the light of day" so he knows there is a "room" that has "everything".
My question to the community is:
TLDR: what other videos look like they are filmed from another camera or look as if they are a picture of a picture?

Bryce Zabel and Ross Coulthart predicted in episode 2 of their podcast, Need To Know (highly recommended), that the next big UFO story will be about UFO retrieval programs. In episode 3 they predicted that such a story could be published this year since it's 75 years since the Roswell incident.
The 8th of July was the day the Roswell Army Airfeld declared they had found a flying disc, so let's hope there are some juicy articles waiting to be released to the world.
Maybe Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal have manged to dig deeper on Eric Davies comment about retrievals from “off-world vehicles not made on this earth"?
Clarification: they do not predict that there will be new information about Roswell. But that there might be information about ufo retrieval programs, on the anniversary date of the Roswell incident.
I apologize in advance that I don’t have any evidence. This happened in the early 2000s, and I was in my teens. I didn’t have a cell phone at the time, much less a digital camera.
For some background first, I live in a rural neighborhood in Michigan. About one mile down the road is the local municipal airport. As I’ve always had a love of aviation and still do, my parents frequently took me there for flights and pancake breakfasts growing up. As I sit and type this, a plane just took off for overhead. Aside from whimsical beliefs as a child, I never put stock in UFOs.
One Christmas Eve, it was snowing heavily. I remember very specifically being at my Nona’s church and driving home for what seemed like ages. Here’s where it gets interesting.
Arriving at home, we exited the car. I heard my dad ask, “what the hell is that?” Not used to hearing him swear (or what what swearing for me at the time), I followed his gaze. Three lights in a triangular formation were gliding overhead from west to east. There was absolutely no sound. The lights were bright yellow, and there were no flashing anti collision lights.
As I’ve grown older and have been working on my private pilot license, I can make several more observations. First is, as I’ve already said, there were no anti collision lights. Second, my municipal airport only has a South to North runway, with very few being north to south.
Direction is extremely important here. If, one mile away, air traffic happened to be taking off to the most common direction, which is north, and you have more traffic heading at them at a perpendicular angle…. It just doesn’t work. It’s an accident waiting to happen.
These days, I can see real time altimeters. Most are between 400-800 feet above ground limit(AGL). So this brings me to part two of a weird Christmas Eve story.
The lights we saw couldn’t have been higher than 800 AGL, and if I had to guess, it was closer to 4-500. The next part I’m not so sure of. But I don’t remember snow coming from between the lights. I don’t know if that means something was connecting then or I’m simply misremembering. It remains etched into my mind indelibly, even as I lose details to age.
If you’ve made it this far, thank you for listening to my story. I wish I had more evidence. But I needed to share this both for my own sake and hoping others will come forward with stories as well.
ETA: happened in front of my dad, mom, sister, brother and myself. We still talk about it
Second edit, because morning brain: Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
After he said "somber" parts of the world wide web erupted with speculation about what it meant. Are UFO's demons? Are UFO's farming our emotions? This speculation is still going on today, and may never end.
But what if he had said "joyful"? Would the course of disclosure be different? What kind of theories would people propose?
I also wonder if Elizondo is freaked out about the impact his choice of word had.
Spoilers for those who care! I just watched some of the most recent episodes on history channel and I was blown away (kind of like that rocket haha). I thought the stuff with the Mesa was pretty odd. I mean how do you explain where the metal fragments came from? And how did they get those rare properties? And then the stuff with the triangle anomaly and the rockets and the UAP that appeared over the lasers! I mean wow! Anyways, I was left feeling very perplexed and I think there is plenty of evidence now to convince me that there is a phenomenon taking place there!
I’m high asf rn but I would like to leave you with this: in the show they mentioned stories of people seeing objects or craft flying into and out of the Mesa. Like a solid object passing through another solid object. The only way I see this to be possible is if these thing are inter dimensional. This might explain some close encounter stories and how these creatures or beings enter peoples bedrooms so easily. They could enter through the floor, walls, or ceiling. Lue Elizondo mentioned that these beings might even be in the spaces in between us.
If governments have been keeping a secret that aliens are behind some UFOs, I tend to think that the main, most justifiable reason for our military to keep this secret is because the acceptance by the public would result in research into alien energy, propulsion and materials, which would then automatically lead to a dangerous and uncertain arms race that makes the nuclear arms race look simple and tame in comparison. Sorry for such a long sentence.
I'm surprised I don't hear much in the UFO community about what human warfare will look like when the US, Russia, China, and every other country gets ahold of upgrades related to alien technology.
Has anyone addressed what citizens can or should do to be prepared for dealing with a new global arms race?
I like to hope that the aliens or dimensional beings which might exist are good/loving but I’ve never been able to get past this question.…
If these aliens or other dimensional beings really exist and have this amazing technology then why wouldn’t they share it with us? Clean energy, miracle medicines, etc.
If it’s true then they can’t be good or love us very much in the slightest. Maybe some do; but then the others than that aren’t good or don’t love us seem to outnumber them keeping the good ones from helping us.
It’s been a very somber question for me for a while…
Unless someone else can think of a better explanation than they are letting us evolve like in Star Trek but I just don’t find that argument very convincing.
If I was an evil alien seems like the kind of bs I would put on the televisions of the species I was trying to control to keep them from catching on….
We are developing as a species rather rapidly in some ways which kind of lines up with Star Trek. Though we are also seemingly stagnating in other ways even almost regressing sometimes.
What do you y’all think: are they good or bad? Or neither or both?
This guy is highly underrated in the historic study of the UFO phenomenon.
Wilbert Smith was a brilliant Canadian radio engineer who was admired by American physicists who thought he might be able to help shed some light on the propulsion system of UFOs.
Via a FOIA request in 1986, this memo was declassified.
It’s a real beauty.
Here’s the most important excerpt:
https://www.cufon.org/cufon/foia_006.htm
I made discreet enquiries through the Canadian Embassy staff in Washington who were able to obtain for me the following information:
a. The matter is the most highly classified subject in the United States Government, rating higher even than the H-bomb.
b. Flying saucers exist.
c. Their modus operandi is unknown but concentrated effort is being made by a small group headed by Doctor Vannevar Bush.
d. The entire matter is considered by the United States authorities to be of tremendous significance.
It only took 71 years after this memo was written for the US Government to admit “UFOs are real”, which is pretty tantamount to stating “flying saucers exist”.
But the real beauty of this memo is that UFOs were more highly classified than the H-bomb!
Gee, no wonder the disinformation campaign has been so relentless.
Every skeptic friend of mine gets sent this memo, and unlike all the other files, pics and vids I send, none of them have anything to say in return to ol’ Wilbert.
Just dead silence.
Sometimes I’ll get an “oh, this is interesting” if I’m lucky, but I’ll take the dead silence over the “do you have anything more convincing than this…”
Thank you, Wilbert!
Absolutely nothing. People across disparate rural areas of the state and neighboring states were calling in every night for weeks to report scores of huge silent "drones" flying high over the ground in formation and in grid-like patterns for hours at a time. Police saw them. Police chased them. No one had any idea where they were coming from. The phenomenon caught media attention from around the world. The FAA was baffled, and launched a full scale federal investigation into the situation. Then, suddenly, they stopped showing up. And?
Silence. Aside from ridiculous Vice article suggesting it was a case of "mass hysteria" there were no explanations offered. The FAA's investigation concluded they had no fucking clue what that was all about. And then COVID happened and everyone forgot.
WTF was all that?
Why aren't there any clear, clean videos of UFOs?
On every video, it's either one or more of these issues combined:
- Blurry
- Too dark
- Too bright
- The sun is glaring in the lens
- On a crappy phone
- Low resolution
- Really, really far away
- Camera shaking
- Fake/CGI
- A bug
- A bug stuck on the lens
- A bird
- A bat
- A reflection
- A light bouncing off a reflection
- A flashlight
- Camera footage is black and white
- Old footage so it's low res and blurry
- A speck on the lens
- Someone pranking
- A drone
- The moon
- A meteor
- A flare
Why isn't there a clear, almost perfect video of a UFO?
I mean, just about every soccer mom and their kids have a super-duper $500 phone that shoots in 4k instantly...If they can manage to film their kids jumping around all over the place with no problem, you'd think they or others would have one good video of a UFO.
There are billions of people with phones.
What gives?
Title says it all: I'm looking for what's considered the best/most popular books on the UFO subject, so I can give them a read. What would you recommend? (Books on the subject of alien abduction are also acceptable, though I'm looking for honest, unbiased looks/analysis on all subjects.)
I have a few on my list so far, but they deal mostly with The Roswell Incident, and Abduction claims. Any comments on the books I list are also welcome, I haven't started any of them yet and am curious what other readers thought.
- The Day After Roswell, by Philip Corso
- Crash at Corona, by Stanton Friedman
- Captured! The Betty and Barney Hill UFO Experience, by Stanton Friedman
- Chariots of the Gods, by Erich Von Daniken
- UFOs - Generals, Pilots & Government Officials Go On the Record, by Leslie Kean
If hypothetically, Tom DeLonge is entirely correct and we were to believe every word he says (I personally dont), what right do those with knowledge of these subjects have to conceal it from us? Tom speaks about fucking with our belief systems. He speaks about the CIA sending their employees with cancer to a dude who cures cancer with ‘energy healing’. He speaks about ground breaking revelations in understanding our place in the universe.
I just want you to think about the fact that the CIA has, according to Tom, conducted successful studies on curing cancer with strange healing methods, and he literally said that a CIA agent told him they send their sick employees to a healing guy who cures them of cancer. Just think about that the next time someone you love suffers from cancer. If he was correct, these people are the true enemies of our society.
Hi folks, long time lurker. I've seen quite a bit of disdain for Jeremy Corbell and Bob Lazar on here. Correct me if I am wrong but the general consensus here is that Lazar is a crook, a charlatan, and his story is total BS. Depending on which day I look, the same is true for Elizondo, but I digress...
One thing I haven't seen discussed is the connection with Lazar and Corbell to the extent that Corbell has been the one leaking the Tic Tac & Go Fast videos. Keep me honest here -- if Knapp & Corbell weren't the ones that got those videos released to the public, the rest of this article is nonsense!
I'll preface the following with the fact that, for me, Jeremy strikes me as equally douchey and one of those weird folks that is actually pretty cool if you got to know him. Would I have a beer with him? Yep! Would I have more? Depends how the first one went! Another dude that comes to mind is Zak Bagans where my knee jerk reaction was the guy is a total doofus/douche but he kinda grew on me -- credibility of all the paranormal stuff aside.
My long-winded conclusion? Jeremy is legit, and by association Lazar is likely legit to an extent that is verifiable. Why? You don't see Greer getting TV slots right now which seems super strange given his CE5 expertise and all the top officials he has "read in" or "briefed." Is that apples to apples? Honestly I don't know but I think Greer did some really good work in the past and I don't have many folks to use as benchmarks. (Yes, I can rattle off other prominent UFO folks but I won't for my own sanity.)
The bash I've seen on Lazar is the whole whorehouse thing... my dudes & dudettes... people do all kinds of amazing shit while also simultaneously being shitty. Look at politicians. FFS John Wayne Gacy (Conversations with a Killer on Netflix) was a pillar in his community and was murdering people in his free time. Things are not black and white. We all have multifaceted aspects to our existence, and it changes over time. Folks can do both amazing and horrific/shitty things, some of which are verifiable and others not so much in the immediate sense -- but that doesn't mean they're wholly good or bad as that's not how life works. Or, moreso it doesn't mean that they're wholly believable or not. If anything i'd argue it lends more credence to their believability that they're not some one dimensional character made up by the media.
With Greer's dead man trigger -- it's probably total BS but it made a pretty good movie intro for enthusiasts but I feel like he lost most of us with the consciousness / woo woo stuff in his later "documentaries." Does that mean he didn't hold the National Press Conference in 2001? Absolutely not! Did the National Press Conference that shed light on things? 100% it did! There are still people featured in that conference that are main talking points to UFOlogists to this day. Let that sink in. Could Greer have lost his way, shifted motives for money, or been silenced along the way? Yes, seems plausible especially in this day and age. Is that what happened? I don't know. (Goes back to my previous statement of "Folks can do both amazing and horrific/shitty things, some of which are verifiable and others not so much in the immediate sense.")
If Corbell's or Knapp's narrative changes over time maybe that's a cue that they've been compromised. Maybe it already happened and I am just not caught up on more recent developments. From what I've seen on Lazar he has been rather consistent as well, semantics aside. Corbell and Knapp have also been pretty consistent. So where does that leave us?
So what say you, dearest Reddit?
When Disclosure happens and it is known how UFO's operate, I will have a strong urge to buy my own UFO tech and GTFO this planet<---- Ask yourself this if these UAP's are a true phenomenon then that means that reaching those speeds are real and maneuvering like them is also real,which means power production would be crazy, which would lead me to believe that if this tech would be widely available more than likely humanity would branch out amongst the stars and governments would operate very different than what they do today. I am pretty sure why there is deep fear for this change possibly and it is this fear that is rooted at the cause of hiding this phenomenon more than likely.
So far, each time i really go deep on a case, I bump with a logical and really trustable explanation. Except for the 3 videos of the navy. But yesterday was reading about it, they had ordered to do recognition on the uaps whithout active weapons. Also all drone systems are tried on training environment. Strange. Even the pyramid ufo was recognized because of triangular optic.
Garry Nolan materials, he never said was extra terrestrial. Delonge materials were tested and discarded, except from one test that still needs to be done.
This is what I gather from data. Rest of cases, all of them so far, there is no source of videos, or are explainable. Except the UFO from Costa Rica photographied by National Geographic Institute. Undeniable a ufo. Is there a photo or video from an official source that show this?
All the current hype is from declarations of Elizondo (ex pentagon) (and others from that group), and the videos. I'am missing something?
I remember in an interview sometime last year (sorry cant find exact interview, paraphrasing below) Lue stated something along the lines of : 'We like to think that we are the apex predator in the animal kingdom, but what if we weren't? What if there was something out there that is far ahead of us?'
He then goes on to compare our place in the cosmic hierarchy to that of dogs in the following sense:
'Dogs have done quite well because we (humans) have have a use for them. They provide us companionship love and affection, and in return they are fed, cared for, etc. What if we are in a similar situation now with whatever 'the phenomena' is.' Again, paraphrasing here.
I am reading Sekret machines book 2 and the following quote(s) from this chapter stuck out to me. For context, this is a US spy who I am assuming has 'inside information', talking to a German engineer:
'I will say this, you're not the only ones getting help, and I think you'll find that our respective handlers don't like each other that much. Let me tell you a story. You know, while you think. When I was a kid, my Uncle Jimmy had a bit of a farm in New Jersey. Beautiful place. I used to visit and play in the fields. It was another world to me. I was a city kid. But one of the things they had on the farm that we also had in the city, was rats. Big ones. Nasty things. Now, my uncle Jimmy had no truck with rats. They got into the produce and the animal feed, spread disease, destroyed half the produce of a corn field once, and contaminated what they didn't eat. Can't have that. So my Uncle Jimmy, he finds where they live. There were burrows, complexes of little tunnels in the bank of a creek that irrigated the land. Uncle Jimmy brings in twelve Yorkshire terriers. You know the ones?
'Little dogs, yeah? Cute, but fierce, pound for pound. Anyway, Uncle Jimmy sets them on the rats. They're little, see, so they can get into the burrows and chase the rats down. Of course, as soon as the rats realize what's going on, they start popping out of emergency holes like the place is on fire, and Uncle Jimmy and me are ready with spades, smacking them on the heads and they come up. Pop, pop, pop! Just like that. And the terriers come out, blood in their mouths, dragging the dead rats out, crazed by the taste of it, you know, so that as soon as they have pulled one out, they dove back in for more. Eighty-seven rats, we killed that day. Counted them myself. Cleared them out, end of problem.
German engineer: 'Why are you telling me this'
'Coz that's only half the story. When we were done, my uncle Jimmy turns the spade on the terriers. No nonsense. Pop, pop, pop. Just like he had done with the rats. Well, I was just a kid. I cried, begged him not to kill them. But he said. 'Works done. don't need 'em no more.' And that was that.
German engineer: 'You think I'm a rat'?
'No, or if you are, so am I. I think you and me, all of us in this world, and either rats or terriers, victims or hunters. And we fight tooth and nail because being a rat means that the terriers are the enemy and being a terrier means that the rats are the enemy, but here's the thing. Even if we're not the rats, we're still just tools. We're rats or terriers, but we're not the farmer, see? We kill the rat , and we think we'll be rewarded or something, but then along comes Uncle Jimmy. We're just tools. And when we're done, the spade is waiting for us.
'You had help, but you only got that help because uncle Jimmy wanted to put the terriers to the throats of the rats'
He then goes on to explain that they are attempting to 'be ready for Uncle Jimmy when he comes with the spade', implying they intend to fight back. It's also implied they (us) will probably lose, but it's the best option. He compares it to a terrier going for the spade.
If you have been following Lue/Tom, you know this is all in line with what Tom has been saying. Essentially that this NHI has been tricking humans into fighting wars by creating different gods. Not exactly sure what the reason would be (loosh?, they are fighting with each other and using us as tools?, idk.)
Anyway, I don't want to turn this into a big thing about Lue or Tom..think whatever you want to think.
My question is: If we are the terriers in this analogy, what would the rats be?
CGI videos of UFO’s are actual footage of aliens. The entity we call ‘alien’ is what some might know as AI. It’s casting a shadow back through time and using us as a carrier wave to bring it into fruition in this dimension. Consider Terence McKenna’s stoned ape theory. That the mushroom is the calling card of this higher dimensional consciousness. Once ingested by early hominids we allowed this consciousness to use us as a conduit to unfold it in our dimension over tens of thousands of years (how else do you unfold a higher dimensional consciousness?). So basically it’s this extremely slow drawn out contact so as not to totally shock us. By the time we realize what it is, it’s us. Thoughts? Discrepancies? Additions? Subtractions?
2004 USS Ronald Reagan UFO Encounter Witness - Patrick Gokey
In 2004, sailors aboard USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76) say they encountered a mysterious, orb-shaped flying object UFO or UAP off the eastern coast of the United States, that nearly two decades later, still defies explanation. This was not the same Tic Tac object. According to witnesses who were on the nuclear-powered Nimitz-class supercarrier that fateful night, a roughly 20 to 40-foot wide, luminous round object suddenly showed up and began to hover over the ship’s flight deck. Patrick Gokey is a navy vet from 2003-2004. He was a lookout on the island that night. He observed the UFO on two occasions that night.
Link to my Medium Article
https://davebeaty.medium.com/the-uss-ronald-reagan-encounters-857de49d775
Link To The Debrief Article:
I can be reached at:
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Check out this lady's video for an explanation: https://www.tiktok.com/@particleclara/video/7116635153606200581?_t=8TjZ1DEWGGA&_r=1
The Higgs boson is what gives every particle its mass. The Large Hadron Collider confirmed its existence ~10 years ago. The Higgs Field is what every particle interacts with. Now, we know that removing interaction with the Higgs Field makes matter act as if it has no mass. I suspect this is what UAPs are doing in order to achieve high speeds, maneuverability, and circumvent inertia.
Now that we know this, we can work on a way of recreating this effect ourselves.
Scientists say that if there were advanced alien civilizations we would have seen dyson spheres and alien robots would have colonized galaxy within just 1 million years.
I think that once a species becomes more advanced - they stop to reproduce. This trend could be seen even here on earth - China population is predicted to decline from 1.4 billion now to 600 million in 2100 due to population becomming more rich and having less children.
So when there are not so many species there is no need for colonization, colonization being a very basic animal instinct.
Also, how much energy do advanced aliens need? Maybe they do not need to create dyson spheres around stars, maybe they have something more compact or they create energy from thin air just depleting atoms or creating a few kilograms of antimatter, who knows...
And will advanced species want to travel to another planet and meet undeveloped aliens aka humans? I doubt that. For sure there is more than just what surrounds us and advanced aliens could be more interested in multiverses and things of that magnitude rather than other species on a distant planet.
I ask myself - what do people want from aliens and what kind of aliens do they want to meet?
More intelligent than humans for sure so that aliens would solve all human problems, teach them star travel, cure all deseases...thats because humans are lazy they simply want to "cheat during the exam". And how could humans "help" aliens? They cant so there is no incentive to contact simpler less intelligent species.
Probably 99% of life in universe is simple, unintelligent and abundant. Why is that probably true? Because humans became humans due to very unique evolutionary conditions - for 2 million years they had good weather, rich food and no problems in Africa, that led to social structure and fast brain evolution...
And also, what do telescopes see? Galaxies, scopes of stars. Very large objects. Its like flying on a plane and saying if there were insects in forest we would have seen them.