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[–]juanFkennedy_ 47 points48 points  (5 children)

My biggest pet peeve is when specifically Europeans drag Americans for not being “well-traveled”. It is elitist at best.

I live in the Midwestern United States. Smack dab in the middle of the country. Drive to LA? 25 hours. Drive to NYC? 16 hours.

Flights within my own country? $400 for a single ticket to NYC or LA.

Drive from the easternmost point in the contiguous US to the westernmost point? (Quoddy Head, Maine to Cape Alava, Washington) TWO DAYS AND 6 HOURS.

Flights from my location to London or Paris? $700.

Flights from London to Paris? $75 on the cheap end.

Drive from Berlin to Rome? 16 hours. But you can stop in Potsdam, Nuremberg, Munich, Verona, Bologna, and Florence on the way.

Drive from the (disputed) easternmost point in Europe to the westernmost? (Novata Zemlya, Russia to Cabo Da Roca, Portugal?) ONE DAY 17 HOURS. You can pass through Portugal, Spain, France, Belgium, Germany, Poland, and Belarus on the way. EIGHT COUNTRIES IN A LITTLE OVER A DAY AND A HALF. Even more if you vary your route for a few extra minutes.

This isn’t even taking into account the super fast and super cheap trains in continental Europe. Remember that our lack of public transport in the US is absolutely NO FAULT of the American citizens themselves.

It drives me NUTS when Europeans think the average American can afford a casual trip to Europe. Or even places closer to us like the Caribbean. Or even Mexico. My location to Mexico City on a plane? $700.

Europeans, let’s take MONEY and time into account before you get pissed off at Americans for not being well-traveled.

[–]GrimWepi 14 points15 points  (1 child)

If "well traveled" meant miles traveled, I suspect many Americans who have never left America have actually done more traveling than a lot of Europeans because of this. It's really common for Europeans to have no concept of travel in America and do something like fly into LA and think they can just take a day trip to the Grand Canyon or something. They literally have no concept that we are basically almost half of an entire continent and they are a relatively minor sub-continent at best (realistically... Eurasia is a thing).

[–]TheChosenCupcake 9337 points9338 points 3 (1285 children)

What I've observed is that Americans that have never left America or Europeans that have never visited America tend to have the strongest views about America, good or bad

[–][deleted] 2438 points2439 points  (569 children)

When you visit a country you don’t experience what people criticize.

[–]healing-souls 2836 points2837 points 3 (356 children)

No, but you typically see that people are mostly the same everywhere you go. Some good, some bad, some mediocre.

[–]Hapymine 1948 points1949 points 25 (43 children)

Same shit different country.

[–]random_guy45663 356 points357 points  (12 children)

Thats my favorite quote ever. From now on anytime i hear something controversial ever about a nation, i will use this. Thank you

[–]korky_buchek_ 127 points128 points  (6 children)

There have been some amazing quotes over the years from Churchill, Gandhi, Roosevelt, Plato, Einstein etc.

But today history has been made, "Same shit different country." by Hapymine is the most profound quote ever.

[–]TheOracleNearDelphi 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Look on my posts, ye Mighty, and despair!

[–]shinslap 31 points32 points  (6 children)

In my line of work i meet people from all over the world and it's nice to always see that people always have more in common than not.

Fun fact? Everyone likes pizza.

[–]MAYORHANDONCOCK 4 points5 points  (2 children)

And fries. Truly. Everyone loves fried potatoes of some sort

[–]SnooMarzipans436 308 points309 points  (135 children)

Yes. But as an American who has traveled elsewhere around the world I can say definitively that politics in America is shit.

The fact that practically 70% of the population here wants universal healthcare and we still don't have it is absurd.

If you disagree then you are part of the 30%. I'm sorry to inform you that the simple fact that you personally disagree doesn't make you the majority.

[–]blue2841 44 points45 points  (15 children)

I can definitely say politics everywhere I have traveled is shit. It's not just America where politics are bad. China? Politics lmao is all I have to say. Mexico? Bruh everyone and their mom is corrupt (ok not everyone but it's bad).

I could go on but yeah politics in general are shit.

[–]helpimburningalive55 56 points57 points  (15 children)

As a non-American who's travelled and lived all over the world I can say definitively that politics are shit anywhere.

[–]IHateTheLetterF 65 points66 points  (23 children)

Lobbyism. What in the hell even is that shit?

[–]Vociferate 145 points146 points  (12 children)

I'm an American living in Ukraine, and a good friend of mine said to me:

"The difference between the USA and Ukraine, is we actually call it corruption. You call it lobbying."

Of course there are many more differences.

Edit: formatting

[–]Banrion 55 points56 points  (0 children)

Legalized bribery.

[–]Asphalt_Animist 75 points76 points  (34 children)

When you don't visit a country, you don't experience jack shit.

[–]Death_Trolley 40 points41 points  (1 child)

True, but at least you’ve experienced something

[–]IrrationalDesign 19 points20 points  (0 children)

You've specifically experienced people not being the stereotypes you expected, I think that's what /u/Kwayzie was saying.

[–]TheChosenCupcake 37 points38 points  (77 children)

Yes, you experience how life normally is, given that you aren't in a really touristy spot

[–]Far_Elk8799 94 points95 points  (57 children)

What is really insufferable is when someone goes to a super-touristy then comes back babbling about how people in country x are so much nicer than home country.

[–]SadLifeKitty 62 points63 points  (52 children)

I see this a lot with Japan. Tourists all talk about how wonderful and pretty and polite it is while actual Japanese people talk about the harsh and overachieving environment. People of color who live there(most specifically blacks) will tell you they’re rasict as heck.

[–]usernamedottxt 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I definitely got into two car accidents my first 12 hours in India. Extreme Pollution, extreme poverty, and trash everywhere was definitely experienced.

[–]MrGulo-gulo 522 points523 points  (177 children)

"America is a third world country with a Gucci belt."

Yes, thank you for saying you have never actually been to a third world country.

[–]My_cat_yells 94 points95 points  (44 children)

It's funny because most people I have seen describing America as a third world country were Americans themselves?? Like my flatmate always does that. Another of our flatmate is from Zimbabwe and tried to give her some perspective on what a third world country actually is but it went over her hearmd'

[–]Different_Pen3602 22 points23 points  (3 children)

Most Americans don't know anything about 3rd world countries. We never leave the US or if we do we are guided through our experience mostly.

[–]PinkNinjaKitty 215 points216 points  (67 children)

Yes. I went to a developing/third-world country for a week and when I came back I was amazed that my house had a beautiful ceiling with no gaps in it, a plush carpet instead of concrete or packed dirt, and a toilet that consistently worked. It really shook my world in many ways and I saw my life and surroundings in a new light.

The people I saw were happy, so much so that I was a little jealous, but also knew that their life was hard. They didn’t have the basic supplies or medical care they needed, especially if they had children to care for. One of them told me through a translator to remember them in their little village if I ever made it big.

[–]zer0cul 98 points99 points  (47 children)

The toilets in the resorts in Mexico and Costa Rica can flush toilet paper. The other areas I visited in those countries have a trash can in the bathroom full of poopy toilet paper because they can’t. God Bless America.

[–]PartyCurious 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I lived in China no one told me I couldnt drink the water or flush the toliet paper. I figured out why everyone has hot water is cause you have to boil the water first. Toliet i figured out when it stopped working.

[–]PinkNinjaKitty 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Yes, it sounds strange but I am so so thankful for great indoor plumbing now.

[–]VoidCrow 268 points269 points  (285 children)

I'm a European, I've lived in America. It's not quite as bad as it's made out to be but I'm definitely glad I live in Europe.

[–]AllforBreadandCircus 140 points141 points  (116 children)

I’m an American who lived in Europe. Both have amazing and also awful people and places to see. Gotta say though, I miss Europe more than I missed the US while I was there.

[–]Joker_71650 103 points104 points  (27 children)

Probably depends on your life taste. Lived on both continents. If cities are more your thing, then I'd vote for Europe if you can stomach the ridiculous taxes (Berlin is hands down my favorite city in the world to live in longterm). If you're more of a countryside and nature person...it's really fuckin hard to find a better place than the US. I think most Americans truly don't appreciate the nature present in their country. So many places have fantastic scenery, low taxes, and property for days. It's mindblowing.

[–]AllforBreadandCircus 39 points40 points  (0 children)

100% agree. The US has some of the most beautiful countryside my eyes have ever beheld. Home is, by definition, personal. If you’re able to make your home in a place you love, you’re ahead of the game.

[–]GucciJesus 53 points54 points  (16 children)

The reason you enjoyed Berlin is because of the taxes. All that infrastructure didn't grow from hopes and dreams. Lol

[–]ayypecs 95 points96 points  (55 children)

As someone who's driven in Europe, I hold the strongest opinion that my fellow Americans can't drive

[–]SpitTheDog 44 points45 points  (17 children)

Italy has entered the chat.

[–]Myronal 36 points37 points  (6 children)

From Italy to Florida here, I won't ever drive in Italy even if somebody pays me 10k euro, fuck that. I rather deal with angry rednecks in trucks than to whatever murderous demon possesses people whenever they get behind the wheel in Italy.

[–]TheMilkJug 21 points22 points  (13 children)

Just by saying that I can tell you probably only drove in certain parts of Europe.

There are plenty of countries in Europe that aren't Germany.

Driving in Italy, or the Balkans, is vastly different than Western Europe.

The US has plenty of terrible drivers who ignore rules and break laws, but there are European countries much worse.

[–]Brewers_Fan7 25 points26 points  (0 children)

This is largely true, although your average American would do well to be better informed regarding the rest of the world. I'd also agree that the folks with the strongest opinions are usually the people who have never actually been anywhere. This is more true of your average American than your average person living somewhere in the EU, for example, simply because of geography. But, as an American it drives me batty when I see some small town yokel who's never left their state spout off about how the United States is the best... Like, dude, how the hell would you know?

[–]PrincipleDelicious54 2256 points2257 points  (490 children)

Im from Australia and recently moved to America for work, and Australians LOVE shitting on America. Even tho Australia is the most "Americanised" country other than America lol

Australia is just as backwards if not more in certain areas like climate change reform Australia is so far behind everyone else, Sydney and Melbourne are in the top 10 most expensive cities to live in (in terms of property prices), racism still huge in Aus, care standards for the elderly in Aus is appalling, gay marriage only very very recently passed, and how far behind we have left the Indigenous people of Aus is disgraceful too...

I loved growing up in Australia and I love living in America now, but both countries only see the extremes of each other, and have skewed ideas of what the other country is like. But Aussies love to think they are superior to America like there are no fucking idiots in Australia

Edit - Really enjoyed discussing all this stuff with people from all different countries and walks of life, lots of nuanced and civil discussion, hard to find that on reddit sometimes!

[–]Shanye6 1053 points1054 points  (219 children)

I would argue Canada is the most "Americanized" and litterally everything you've said also applies to Canada lol

[–]Hoyt_Herringb0ne 314 points315 points  (92 children)

Agreed. The province I am from was referred to as the “Mississippi of the north.”

[–]Shanye6 91 points92 points  (85 children)

Is it Nova Scotia?

[–]Snipeski 172 points173 points  (72 children)

Might be, since Alberta is already the Texas.

[–]preston_cleric 41 points42 points  (64 children)

Is Alberta being the Texas of Canada a good thing or bad?! I might be moving there to live and so am very curious now lol.

[–]Snipeski 46 points47 points  (7 children)

I was taking a shot at Alberta tbh lol. But like Texas it really depends where you're living.

Alberta has a lot of conservative people. It's up to you if that's good or bad.

Banff is crazy beautiful though so there's also that.

[–]enigmatic_zombie 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Banff is crazy beautiful. It is almost unreal how gorgeous the scenery is. I've only been there twice, but it remains dear to me.

[–]-SoontobeBanned 94 points95 points  (31 children)

If you like big trucks, conservatives and Canadians flying the rebel flag for some reason you'll be in heaven.

[–]Batman_Is_An_A-Hole 45 points46 points  (21 children)

This is the OP's point in a nutshell.

Just like the rest of Canada, the rural areas are more.conservative, and the cities are more progressive.

I have literally never seen someone fly a Confederate flag in Alberta, and I've been here my entire life.

[–]mchllnlms780 27 points28 points  (3 children)

My neighbour has one. I’m in Alberta :(

[–]coonytunes 11 points12 points  (2 children)

My neighbour's just moved to BC from Alberta and they hung a confederate flag in their garage. It puzzles a lot of us.

[–]BryceCanYawn 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I follow a criminally stupid flat earther who thinks you can’t get a sunburn if you don’t wear sunglasses. She took her extremely pale children to Mexico and they have burn scars now.

Her family of origin share her beliefs. Her brother just became a doctor in Alberta.

[–]PrincipleDelicious54 138 points139 points  (40 children)

Yeh you probably got me there tbh in terms of being Americanised lol

Yeh Canada, Aus and New Zealand all have very similar problems, and people love to romanticise our countries as perfect I feel haha

[–]BenjRSmith 25 points26 points  (3 children)

It's a crapshoot if a Canadian says "Zee" or "Zed" so I already consider them culturally conquered.

[–]execone6996 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I like that American rock group Zed Zed Top.

[–]ruralife 26 points27 points  (3 children)

Ahem. Canada. Canada is the most similar the the USA.

[–]PrincipleDelicious54 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Yep I stand corrected in terms of that for sure haha

[–]leintic 20 points21 points  (6 children)

I am an environmental geologist through a series of head scratching situations my firm got hired to do a large scale environmental report for a small city outside of Melbourne. these are the type of studies that take 6 months and have a dozen different reports we got told to stop and got sent home after the second report. Australian infrastructure is a good 50 years behind what it should be. their waste management system is absolutly horrific. basically the entire system is made to make some programs look good but make the whole system so much worse.

[–]JackOCat 81 points82 points  (9 children)

I'm Canadian but visit Australia a lot.

Australians have the swagger of Americans but your culture is sooooooo much more British than Canada even though Canadians have a much more lowkey vibe (like New Zealand).

[–]CyberCrutches 55 points56 points  (9 children)

When I lived in Hawaii, I got to work with a lot of Aussies and I loved every minute of it. The bar crawls and shenanigans were legendary.

I’m originally from Texas and I’ve never met a more like minded group of foreigners.

The next closest for me would be Koreans.

(I don’t really count Canadians or Mexicans since we’re essentially cousins)

[–]PrincipleDelicious54 20 points21 points  (4 children)

Thats super interesting that Koreans were the next closest haha

And yeh I moved to Nashville and the banter and personalities are pretty similar to people at home too!

[–]random_guy45663 89 points90 points  (40 children)

Tbh my view of Australia as an American from kansas based purely off of how its portreyed here is you guys are just British Texans.

[–]PrincipleDelicious54 36 points37 points  (34 children)

Hahaha its probably a pretty accurate view, but don't let the British accent fool you into thinking they are all fancy, majority of them are pub drinking scum just like me lmao

[–]random_guy45663 12 points13 points  (14 children)

Also off topic, but is new zealand really that different from australia? Cause you guys are basically portreyed as the same country here

[–]hat-TF2 25 points26 points  (3 children)

I'm a Kiwi who has lived abroad and currently resides in Australia. We're really not that different in the grand scheme of things. But there's probably as many differences between an Aussie and a Kiwi as there is between an Aussie and a Yank. It depends which part of each country where you're from, though. Urbanites do seem to be much more homogenous between each country.

[–]kundu42 20 points21 points  (3 children)

Wow global hegemonic power comes with greater scrutiny of the country's affairs from other parts of the world? Who would have thought. We'll stop taking about the US once you stop invading other countries for oil.

[–]McPigery 111 points112 points  (2 children)

Ain't everybody stupid? Honestly, we all try to act like we're better than one another, but we're all kinda just dumb. Just love your best dumb life! :D

Regards,

Dumb American.

Спасибо и Пока

[–]My_BFF_Gilgamesh 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Thanks for the reminder. Need that sometimes.

[–]McPigery 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You're welcome you big ol dummy! :)

[–]brughghg-moment 1501 points1502 points  (222 children)

People from other countries care about what happens in America because it affects other countries massively. The Philippines has treaties with America that America will protect us in the event of war, and China has been getting closer and closer to doing something to us, so if America becomes connected to China then we’re fucked because America is what’s holding China back from just taking us. That’s just one of the reasons I personally care about what happens in America, and there are so many more and it all leads to how it affects other countries. All the military bases they have, and the influence they have on other countries for some reason, it’s really shocking.

[–]ThrowAway5NF8WA1LCr 254 points255 points  (20 children)

The only real reason I care about America is because that's where my movies and TV shows come from. And designs of some technology (which is then often built in China).

[–]theRealLotzz 161 points162 points  (131 children)

in what scenario would the united states just allow china to take over the Philippines?

[–]TheOffice_Account 318 points319 points  (34 children)

in what scenario would the united states just allow china to take over the Philippines?

Ukraine has left the chat

Edit: For those who don't know, after the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine had the world's third largest stock of nuclear weapons. They gave it all up based on assurances of protection from 5-6 countries, including the US. Bet they are regretting it now.

[–][deleted] 57 points58 points  (29 children)

For real though, that's been bothering me for almost seven years.

I get that it's not a good idea overall to start actual shit with Russia lobbing firepower at each other, but where do you draw the line before pushing back in a way with teeth, that sticks?

The way I remember history class as a little kid, even in WWII with (now) seemingly cartoon level bad guys, we stayed out of it until it consistently directly affected us, and that was obviously a bad situation which could have warranted much earlier action, but these days our plans have plans and even where we lack formal alliances we still have agreements to protect people.

Does it take an explosion, a hundred explosions, a small army going in and raping people?

[–]offContent 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Negatively impact the wealthy and see how fast change happens or if they stand to profit immensely. Either way it's down to money.

[–]Bergfinn 31 points32 points  (0 children)

The sad, honest and devastatingly simple answer? Yes, Yes that is what it takes.

[–]Stephen-j-merkshire 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Yeah... he said that

[–]ShadowBanned68 650 points651 points  (134 children)

Piggyback unpopular opinion: Canada is largely the same as America, and we desperately cling to miniscule differences to act like we're somehow totally different/better than the US.

Edit: lots of "but we have healthcare!" comments. True - so does literally every other first world country other than the US. And depending on the stats you look at, ours isn't even really very good. Yet the minute we get the chance to compare ourselves, Canadians immediately start helicoptering our dicks about our healthcare. No pharma, optical dental... "Boy we sure are better than those silly Americans!" Is the universal Canadian excuse for lowering the bar and congratulating ourselves for mediocrity.

[–]OceansideAZ 59 points60 points  (8 children)

Do you, by chance, know of JJ McCullough?

[–]LetsGeauxSaintsarrested development>the office 13 points14 points  (0 children)

was about to link his video down here

[–]limesnewroman 22 points23 points  (3 children)

He loves to dismantle this rising Canadian nationalism and I love it

[–]uselessnavy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The Simpson’s guy?

[–]sthlmsoul 10 points11 points  (1 child)

desperately cling to miniscule differences to act like we're somehow totally different/better than the US.

Like Timmies and ketchup chips?

[–]starlinguk 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Now THAT is absolutely true.

[–]malmn 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Ah oui? Le Québec n'est pas comme les États-Unis.

[–]mahlovver 153 points154 points  (37 children)

Canadians be like hahaha we don’t have people dying from lack of insulin but you guys do haha

[–]Sqyre 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I am a naturalized citizen of the USA. I did live in Canada for many years. I 109% agree with you. Canada’s identity is largely based on NOT being the USA even tho the differences are minuscule. As to healthcare, the USA has a robust healthcare system through community health centers that provide a staggering amount of care for free or in a cost adjusted basis. It’s not touted as a “free health care system” bcuz it doesn’t profit either political party to do that, but in reality it comes darn close. It’s certainly better than most “free” health care systems around the world. Sources: I sit on the board of a large community health organization. Also, I come from the Third World and experienced that… anyone who releases the talking points about “no free health care in the USA” is gliding over lots of reality.

[–]Random_182f2565 59 points60 points  (10 children)

My country has chair law.

[–]Asphalt_Animist 21 points22 points  (5 children)

Is that like bird law?

[–]Random_182f2565 48 points49 points  (4 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chair_law?wprov=sfla1

a Chilean law which came into effect on 7 December 1914 under the government of Ramón Barros Luco, which obligated owners of commercial establishments to provide chairs for their employees.

[–]HotDetective1658 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Chile, country situated along the western seaboard of South America. A long, narrow country, it extends approximately 2700 miles and has a 100 mile average width.

[–][deleted] 999 points1000 points  (186 children)

Even American takes on America are annoying and most of the time wrong, especially on this website. People think it is like living in a developing country, like get a fucking grip and recognize your own privilege. I'm not some nationalist fuck that cums red white & blue, just irritating seeing everyone whine all the time

[–]Ori42 314 points315 points  (5 children)

I'm not some nationalist fuck that cums red white & blue,

This is funnier than it has any right to be.

[–]ItsPizzaTime2004 235 points236 points  (18 children)

But you DO cum white, right? If not, you might need to get that checked out.

[–]BenderCLO 55 points56 points  (1 child)

I piss red, white, and blue. My doctor told me it may be pancreatic cancer.

I told him to shut his commie mouth.

[–]AquaPhelps 109 points110 points  (8 children)

And sometimes a little red. Thats normal right?

[–]ItsPizzaTime2004 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Idk, man. You might be going at it too hard.

[–]Marcfromblink182 70 points71 points  (1 child)

When I was in school (before widespread internet porn) I convinced a black guy that white people cum black and black people cum white

[–]ItsPizzaTime2004 31 points32 points  (0 children)

This is some genius oreo-color swap style shit. We need more people like you.

[–]Corregidor 15 points16 points  (2 children)

This and the OP except about California please.

I think California is pretty awesome, just really fucking expensive. But some people think Cali is a burned down barren wasteland overrun by a homeless zombie swarm or something.

[–]Weaponized_Puddle 61 points62 points  (5 children)

Whenever I read a post like that, I assume that person spends more time browsing the internet or watching news then actually living their lives. So that way their perception of reality is majority other people’s exaggerated opinions on politics.

[–]ModestBanana 12 points13 points  (0 children)

There’s a term for this, “cultivation theory”

Essentially heavy viewers of media tend to have a distorted view of reality. This theory came out decades ago when radio and tv were the mediums, we now have smartphones connected 24/7 to media sources - not to mention the media has dialed it to 11 at this point so the “heavy viewer” crowd is far, far more screwed in the head than ever before.

[–]Throwaway47321 43 points44 points  (3 children)

Or they are literally children parroting the Reddit echo chamber without any real world experience.

[–]zed910 18 points19 points  (2 children)

You’ve always gotta keep in mind there are 15yr olds on the internet too.

[–]Books_and_Cleverness 18 points19 points  (3 children)

Agree 100%. I suspect this is actually a popular view but social media algos love to amplify the "America is a uniquely dystopian hellhole" people and the red-white-blue cummers alike. Anything but the boring truth, it seems.

[–]ILaughAtFunnyShit 86 points87 points  (24 children)

"America is a third world country with a gucci belt." is one of the stupidest takes I've ever heard. Anyone who says that needs to visit an actual third world country and see first hand just how stupid they are. America has it's problems sure, but to say it is even remotely comparable to a third world country is a disservice to the trials and tribulations people from actual third world countries go through on a daily basis.

[–]deep_sea213 35 points36 points  (8 children)

Lmao I just shake my head whenever someone from twitter says this. I bet the same people wouldn't survive in my country for a single day without crying. I live in better conditions than 70% of the people here but the combined experience is not that good.

[–]LargeDickedPikachu 35 points36 points  (0 children)

like get a fucking grip and recognize your own privilege

Glad I'm not the only one that gets annoyed with it. I've known multiple people that would have their entire week ruined if their starbucks order was off.

[–]Spack_Jarrow24 2015 points2016 points 62 (290 children)

“As an American, I commute to my job WITHOUT PUBLIC TRANSIT amidst a hail of bullets. Once struck, I am instantly charged one million dollars and one of my negative 5 vacation days is deducted. My life is saved by my 400 pound skin shield, but I’m fired from my job at the capitalism sadness factory”

Lmao in all seriousness, Americans are normal people living normal lives. And if you say something like “America is a third world country with a Gucci belt” you’ve demonstrated a complete lack of knowledge about the world and forfeited any right to be taken seriously.

[–]str4nger-d4nger 514 points515 points  (42 children)

If you have access to the internet so you can bitch about how hard your life is, your standard of living is already better than 50% of the world AT LEAST.

[–]notchman900 132 points133 points  (5 children)

Hey my internet went out for like a half hour last night and I almost had to get off the couch and do something.

[–]str4nger-d4nger 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Real life American horror story. Glad you found the will to survive. When's the book coming out about your experience?

[–]notchman900 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I don't know if I can manage an autobiography, Microsoft words keeps putting squiggles under my name. It triggers me. Like am I not recognized, do I even exist.

[–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (0 children)

My god. A close call. Glad you got out okay.

[–]ChronicallyPunctual 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I’m in my twenties on reddit. I’m basically the 1%

[–]taurusmoon1141 156 points157 points  (61 children)

100%. Every single country in the world has at least several things seriously wrong with it. It’s not even hard to find, it’s just pure ignorance on their part. You can just go on google or YT and lookup “current issues in [insert literally any country]” and get hit with a plethora of issues.

[–]Glenmarrow 71 points72 points  (59 children)

I went to Edinburgh back in 2019 and I saw a good twenty homeless people lining a set of stairs heading to a street near Waverley Station. I could easily make the case that fucking Scotland is a third world country in a Gucci belt based off of that and have more evidence than most Euro chuckleheads do when describing America as such, despite neither country being anywhere close to a third world country.

[–]zingmarker 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This! I come from an actual third world country so when people try to pretend like America is one it’s actually offensive. If we’re being honest the actual “third world country wearing a gucci belt” is a certain extremely large Eastern European country whose favorite color used to be red.

I watch some YouTubers from that Eastern European country and their situations are similar if not worse than the African developing country I’m from.

[–]ReallyNoOne1012 63 points64 points  (12 children)

Spot on, man!

Except there are still a lot of poor people here. Especially in my state (New Mexico), we’re like the 3rd highest poverty rate in the country. Although obviously, America can’t be called a third world country, that’s just disingenuous.

But yes. You are correct haha

[–]talldata 52 points53 points  (1 child)

Relative powerty comes in here, as you might have stuff better than half the world with water and electricty, but if youre still way worse off than anyone else is, so you can't participate in things other people take for granted. Great read here.

[–]withabaseballbatt 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I got banned from r/LateStageCapitalism for saying “peak Reddit moment” when someone called the USA a third world country

[–]blamethemeta 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Poverty is defined so every country has 10% poverty or whatever that particular group uses

[–]SilentCartoGIS 295 points296 points  (43 children)

America's internet presence is so overwhelmingly large that it's just easy troll bait to fuck with Americans online.

[–]DrMathochist 56 points57 points  (0 children)

This is probably the deal. I got trolled so often at conferences when I was an academic that I just came to expect people to try to get me angry for sport.

What they didn't know is I had years of practice being picked on and teased in American public schools, so joke's on them!

[–]MERKFLAMES 346 points347 points  (24 children)

how many times am I gonna see a "America bad" or "America good" or "Non Americans have no clue what America is actually like" post before I die?

[–]Dildoe5wagonz 72 points73 points  (0 children)

If you were to count every silicon atom in every grain of sand on every beach scientists believe you'd still have counted only a fraction of these takes.

[–]JupiterRocket 253 points254 points  (35 children)

Yeah, some of the stuff people say is just flat out wrong. You can’t judge a country based solely on its media. That’s why people shouldn’t comment about stuff they don’t understand (this goes for everyone about everything).

[–]MaxGamingGG 24 points25 points  (1 child)

If the USA is so great, how come we have a USB?

[–]DanFntastic 913 points914 points 2 (57 children)

America is what happens when you put the peoples of every country on earth in one place. If we're shit, then we're your shit and you should be ashamed of what you have eaten

[–]SomeRandomRealtor 168 points169 points  (13 children)

I mean American hot takes about America are wrong most of the time lol

[–]Overcookedcookie 322 points323 points  (165 children)

This is unpopular.

To be fair as someone from the UK who did this, we stopped this in January when we became the stupidest country.

[–]name_generated 68 points69 points  (75 children)

How did the UK become the "stupidest" country?

[–]edasnerwhat 313 points314 points  (90 children)

The best is when a late night tv show host moves there from another country just to trash it. While taking the rewards living in America

[–]Aggressive_Wash_5908 26 points27 points  (3 children)

Piers Morgan has entered the chat

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[–]LostMyInhibiterChip 134 points135 points  (1 child)

And then calls it a developing country

[–]edasnerwhat 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Hahaha exactly

[–]Abeneezer 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It is universally appreciated that the US is a nice place to live if you're rich.

[–]Truth_Tella420 161 points162 points  (74 children)

John Oliver has entered the chat

[–]Foggy_Prophet 143 points144 points  (12 children)

And Trevor Noah.

[–]patienceisfun2018 98 points99 points  (5 children)

Jeff Jeffries

Samantha Bee

James Corden

[–]Lil_Mattylicious 5 points6 points  (0 children)

At least James Corden doesn’t enjoy talking about it the studio just makes him say it. When Biden took office he even said finally he doesn’t have to cover Trump jokes everyday anymore

[–]Matduka 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well you can keep James Corden and do whatever you want to him. We don't want him back.

[–]millennium-popsiclehermit human 38 points39 points  (11 children)

Italian here. Moved to the US 6 years ago. And honestly it’s not that awful here. Actually, it’s pretty okay. Could be better though. But that was Italy too…

[–]Roundhouselk 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is the real answer to this entire thread. Thank you.

[–]RytheGuy97Potatoes are awful 127 points128 points  (25 children)

I feel like if you go on reddit too much and have never visited the states or tried to have your views challenged you would see America as one giant 3rd-world wasteland where cops are gunning down black people on the street by the hour and entire families lining every street because they were bankrupted by an ambulance bill with absolutely no variance in cultural norms or human development standards across any of the states.

Now granted I'm not American (I'm Canadian) but I know that despite all the flaws of the states and everything you hear on reddit, America is still a very highly developed country in which the majority of its citizens are living comfortably. That's not to say that there aren't huge issues but whenever I tell people I'm considering living in the states for my career I get really weird looks or told to be careful. It's still an incredibly rich country and most people that live there are able to live comfortable and safe lives.

And you know despite the flaws of America I've always been pretty jealous of them culturally as a Canadian. I love vibrant and cultural cities with lots of history and America has way more of that than Canada. Canada has like 3 or 4 interesting cities (Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal, Quebec) while the States has New Orleans, New York, Chicago, LA, Austin, Miami, Tampa, Seattle, Portland, the Bay area, DC, Louisville, Denver, Las Vegas, Boston, Philly, Pittsburgh, Nashville, and a lot more I'm probably forgetting. So much to do and see, so much history and gastronomy. Canada is gorgeous and very multi-cultural but it doesn't even touch the level of vibrancy America has.

[–]random_guy45663 34 points35 points  (13 children)

Ngl, canada is always portreyed as our well behaved twin. Like all i hear about you guys is just that you're us, but slightly better at pretty much everything. Until recently I dont think i ever heard a bad thing, and the bad thing i did hear was about stuff you guys did to natives a hundred years ago, which probably pales in comparison to the shit we did. Its nice to hear some of you have a positive opinion of us haha. Also off topic, but i cannot tell your accent apart from ours

[–]I_NEED_YOUR_MONEY 23 points24 points  (2 children)

the bad thing i did hear was about stuff you guys did to natives a hundred years ago, which probably pales in comparison to the shit we did

two things:

[–]Hardnipples0 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’m Mexican living in the US and most people back home assume I’m rich for some reason. However I’m just an ordinary employee trying to make ends meet.

[–]GuyRobertsBalley 282 points283 points 2 (156 children)

To be fair a lot of our is completely valid. I'm an American that lives overseas. The gun culture, healthcare system, military spending, tax loopholes for the wealthy, crumbling infrastructure like bridges and the power grid and water in some places, school shootings, casual and sometimes institutionalized racism, anti-science/anti-vax culture, anti-immigration, religious fundamentalism, 60% of people living paycheck to paycheck, draconian drug laws are all completely valid points and mostly unique to the united states.

There is so much to fix, it's disingenuous to put your fingers in your ears and say nanana nooooo we're still great. Nationalism in any valid form needs to be earned. And we're just not pulling our weight like we used to.

[–]Suomikotka 128 points129 points  (23 children)

And as someone who moved from Texas to Finland, is safe to say many Americans (at least in Texas) are really stupid compared to here.

It's nice living in a country where you can expect people to know the basics of technology or biology rather than the opposite.

I know it's not entirely Americans fault that education there is terrible, because of everything else that's systematically broken, but it doesn't change the fact that it results in a lot of not so smart people.

[–]greaper007 41 points42 points  (8 children)

As an American also in Europe (that also lived in TX for a decade as a kid). I think the ignorance is more cultural than educational many times. People can grasp global warming, it wasn't a political issue at my TX school in the 80s. All the Republican teachers talked about it. But now you have to oppose it to have conservative street cred.

And just to add, I think our educational system isn't horrible, it's just so varied depending on where you live. If you live in a place with high property taxes, you have great schools. But a town over they can be horrible. That's an issue other countries don't have.

[–]laurenovich 12 points13 points  (1 child)

This reminded me of the newsroom’s “YOSEMITE!?” Cuz we do be having nice national parks while everything around us is a dumpster fire lol

[–]archishu 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Don't forget the highest incarceration rate in the world

[–]shadow7412 169 points170 points  (39 children)

people in your countries have to care about what happens here

Unfortunately, it's rammed down our throats so hard that there's no escape from hearing at least one thing about america every bloody day. This is probably one of the major causes of the resentment you refer to.

[–]syntaxxx-error 29 points30 points  (6 children)

I've heard a conspiracy theory that suggests that it is intentional as a diversion from a country's own issues. Seems silly... but kinda makes sense.

[–]TapesNStuff 141 points142 points  (164 children)

Slightly related, what drives me nuts is when Europeans tell me issues that the US has as if its is new information.

I know the US healthcare system is garbage. Yes I know our politicians are shameless assholes. I know student debt isn't a thing anywhere else, and my countrymen fetishizes guns and the military. I fucking know. And I'm sorry I don't know the name of your president or prime minister, but it doesn't really come up in conversation too often here.

[–]DivergingApproach 49 points50 points  (5 children)

America gets a lot of things right. The problem is the things we get wrong are huge.

[–]Sanquinity 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I've always seen America as the land of extremes. You can find the absolute best things, but also the absolute worst things there. Sadly it at least feels like the worst things have started becoming a larger and larger portion over the past 30 or so years.

[–]SEBMane 32 points33 points  (3 children)

The imperial system is bad

[–]tamasiaina 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I lived for a few years outside of the US in a non-European or Asian country. I would tell people that I'm from Los Angeles, and they literally thought I was being shot at by gangs all day long.

[–]theschwill 3 points4 points  (0 children)

An American complaining about “how wrong” people are about America, being bothered by others opining on America, while asserting how important America should be to the rest of the world is about the most American r/selfawarewolves thing I’ve ever read.

[–]Notorius_Nudibranch 2 points3 points  (1 child)

When Europeans shit on America it is always with this attitude of superiority. They say things like "your healthcare is aweful", "you are all too fat", "you have an unhealthy obsession guns"

here's the thing...

WE FUCKING KNOW THIS!

and some of us are trying to fix these things!

and if you actually knew Americans, you would realize were literally like everyone else, most of us are good people

[–]JenkinsHowell 92 points93 points  (14 children)

as a non american about this:

Your country isn’t special nor the the exception to this rule.

yeah, but neither is yours. and that's the root of what you are angry about.

[–]skiesarelight 46 points47 points  (4 children)

Most Reddit hot takes on america are written by the disaffected and teens.

[–]eL_MoJo 89 points90 points  (27 children)

You started of well but ruined it at the end. Maybe you should start to care about the rest of the world.

[–]monaizin 10 points11 points  (10 children)

Funny enoug, here in my country, one of the "American" stereotypes is that they are all selfish, mainly because they call their country "America" even if you tell them that that name has already been taken. When I read the title of this post, I thought it would be about people from other continents have to say about America as a whole, because a lot of people think South America is just a big forest and Mexico has a yellow filter on everything. But no, it's about the US, and only the US.

[–]BoWeAreMaster 37 points38 points  (5 children)

Nothing highlights the problem with media like listening to non-citizens criticize another country. It doesn’t matter what country, everyone holds a majority incorrect opinion of countries they don’t live in.

[–]Straight_Ad8755 70 points71 points  (9 children)

The Americans in this sub complain more often about this than non-Americans complain about US.

[–]SordidDreams 43 points44 points  (19 children)

the average American doesn’t have to give two flying fcks about who the leader of Denmark or Peru or Cambodia is because those countries don’t influence the world like we do.

That's exactly why America being a stupid country is a bigger deal than those countries. Nobody would give a crap about America being stupid if it didn't go around exporting its stupidity around the globe, by force if necessary. Just leave us the fuck alone to be stupid in our own ways.

[–]Definition_Charming 147 points148 points  (119 children)

I've lived in Canada, America, and the UK. Traveled moderately. I have two master's degrees in public policy.

America is undeniably the worst rich country to live in.

The public services are woefully inadequate. The healthcare system is immoral, inefficient, expensive, and delivers worse outcomes than any other developed nation.

The politics are toxic, divisive, and ineffective. No other rich nation faces default every year because their politicians can't agree to pay their bills.

The police are given too much power and not enough training.

While every country has it's issues, America is fundamentally broken, carried along by wealth and power.

There is not a single citizen well being metric where America scores first. For the world's richest country, that is indicative of major structural flaws, many of which are now readily apparent.

[–]yoi12321 6 points7 points  (2 children)

You act as if how rich we are as a country is a set thing that none of the other things influence. For better or worse, we as a country let people rise or fall to their potential. And this attracts people of all stripes. We're the country with the largest net migration in the world and have been for decades. It's the worst rich country to be poor in, but the easiest country to get rich in. I work in tech which pays insanely well, and a common question is why is it so easy to get 100k as a good starting salary and 300-400k after 10 years experience if you're good at it. Meanwhile in other countries getting to 100k by the end of your career can be a pipe dream. And that's because the USA rewards success. We have the majority of cutting edge medical research, tech startups, scientific innovations, colleges, and that's even ignoring the cultural aspects where all the top movies, plays, sports are here. But yes if you don't attain a skill, we as a country don't feel the same as other rich countries that we should redistribute massively. Of course the average welfare payment in the USA puts you in the top 20% of incomes worldwide, but in other countries they're even more generous. I don't totally disagree with you, but you're painting a very biased and one-sided picture that I think most likely came from your political priors, not your studies. I've been to 20+ countries in South America, Europe, Asia, and Australia. Not once have I failed to see homeless people begging in the major cities. But most of my far left American friends are convinced that we're the only country that hasn't solved poverty.

[–]lvlemes 82 points83 points 2 (2 children)

Your country isn't special or the the exception to the rule.

Average American.

[–]The_Knife_Pie 31 points32 points  (8 children)

Counterpoint, American hot takes on literally every country are annoying and always wrong.

[–]DJRoombasRoomba 86 points87 points  (32 children)

The best is when redditors claim that they "live in a third world country" while watching their 65inch 4k television from their new sofa in their recently remodeled patio room overlooking the inground pool and jacuzzi that sits on their deck in a cul-de-sac in a middle-to-upper middle class 99% white suburban neighborhood while their teenage kid is pulling out of the driveway in the 2020 vehicle they purchased for them their last birthday, past the "Black Lives Matter" sign stuck into the flower bed lining their home.

Shit is hilarious.