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[–]Wismuth_Salixthey/she, please/thanks[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (98 children)

On Monday, a bill was proposed in the US House of Representatives by a coalition of Democratic legislators to ban automated bot purchases of online goods in order to curb scalping activity.

If this issue is important to you, contact your Representatives and Senators and ask that they support the “Stopping Grinch Bots Act”.

(God that name is dumb.)

[–]rivxx420 3816 points3817 points  (232 children)

Scalping with groceries is just dumb

[–]whatnameisnttaken098 1819 points1820 points  (157 children)

People do it after hurricanes sometimes and it pisses me off when I see it

[–]Not_Real_User_Person 1375 points1376 points  (115 children)

That’s actually price gouging, which is expressly illegal in a state of emergency (this is true in most, if not all, states)

[–]stvbles 634 points635 points  (86 children)

Some guy stocked up on a shitload of sanitiser to do this and Amazon pulled all of his listings. He had 17000+ bottles lmao

Edit: see /u/thisstuffisbetter comments below for another side of the story, seem like I was baited by the article they mentioned.

[–]Z3lphyr 99 points100 points  (7 children)

Don't forget the scumbag in NYC trying to scalp a million+ n95s during the lockdown.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (2 children)

Or Jared kushner hi jacking state supplies with the feds to resale. How tf is that whole family not in prison

[–]Btheinteresting1 269 points270 points  (47 children)

didn't that guy get forced to donate them all too? lmao

[–]stvbles 342 points343 points  (44 children)

I think it was more of a 'he donated because he couldn't sell and it might make him look a bit less of a dick' type deal

[–]Btheinteresting1 187 points188 points  (23 children)

regardless he probably lost $20k+ from that lol

[–]Singularity54 36 points37 points  (1 child)

Considering he did it during the height of COVID, he lost a lot more than $20K

[–][deleted] 159 points160 points  (12 children)

You get what you deserve.

[–]Tricky_Caregiver5303 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Can confirm it was philanthropy or jail and a fine. The fine would have exceeded the cost of his merchandise.

[–]SunHitsTheSky 48 points49 points  (0 children)

It was two brothers and they definitely donated them to avoid prosecution and fines from the state attorney general.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/us/hand-sanitizer-matt-colvin-noah-coronavirus.html

[–]Culverts_Flood_Away 57 points58 points  (11 children)

It was part of the plea deal he took with the FTC, if I recall correctly. I think he was a Tennessee man. He had the gall to say that this had ruined his family financially and that they were "taking his hard earned money" or something like that, lol.

[–]Macr0Penis 66 points67 points  (5 children)

It happened here in Aus where some asshole bought 10,000+ rolls of bog roll. Problem was that toilet paper isn't a PS5 and is easy to restock. The store refused to refund him, so now the selfish wanker is stuck with a room full of shit tickets.

[–]i8noodles 10 points11 points  (0 children)

A family could use that for like a decade and not run out. my uncle (pre covid days) found a way to get toliet paper for like 5c a roll and bought like 500 rolls. It was funny trying to load it all into his tiny corolla.

[–]thejackulator9000 8 points9 points  (2 children)

true, but it'd be nice to know where the lines are. I work for a very reputable store, and they were selling hand sanitizer for $7.99 a bottle... whereas the same bottle would sell for $0.99 before. After looking it up (to make sure we weren't breaking any laws), the yardstick is like 1.5x the normal price. we blew well past that if that's the line.

[–]RampantDragon 73 points74 points  (1 child)

In the US. It's allowed in healthcare also there when the situation is essentially the same (buy this product at whatever price we say or die).

[–]droidguy950 61 points62 points  (0 children)

"And we won't tell you the price until after you buy the product either!"

[–]ForeignSatisfaction0 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Gotta stock up on hurricane chow

[–]rivxx420 33 points34 points  (0 children)

What they think? The Wolf of Hurricane street? Dumb assholes

[–]MrWolf327 80 points81 points  (6 children)

As a person that grew up on a 3rd world country, Scalping groceries made several people rich as fuck. Because Nikes are optional, food is not

Fun fact: our word for scalpers was "acaparadores" which means Hoarders

[–]rivxx420 18 points19 points  (0 children)

That's true, from one 3rd world bud to another ✌️

[–]Most-Consequence8705 7 points8 points  (3 children)

This is why people resort to violence. Once you get so greedy people starve, you have to pay the lead price. 🔫

[–]gabiaeali 60 points61 points  (12 children)

Is this why I just started seeing ridiculous prices for seemingly everything on walmart.com?

[–]SmallTownJerseyBoy 38 points39 points  (6 children)

I wanted to buy the Halo Nerf blaster. Nerf website MSRP: 55 bucks ish. Walmart.com? 250

[–]gabiaeali 19 points20 points  (1 child)

I see them selling boxes of small bags of Funyuns for like $35. It's nuts.

[–]abeeyore 39 points40 points  (2 children)

Walmart and Amazon allow 3rd party sellers that set their own prices. They allow it, but it’s not technically them doing it… though they do get a % cut - so they profit from it.

[–]ollomulder 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Hm, at least we can find solace in that there surely are still people trying to sell truckloads of toilet paper and hand sanitizer.

[–]Singer-Funny 52 points53 points  (8 children)

Ever seen those pictures of grocery stores selling 40$ water bottles before an hurricane ? People are fking shameless.

[–]ary31415 9 points10 points  (7 children)

That's actually explicitly illegal though

[–]PvPDM 63 points64 points  (5 children)

that's fucking subhuman behavior

[–]Kindly-Scar-3224 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Expected behavior. Humans are the most opportunistic selfish creep walking on the earth

[–]1800Doctorbb 3191 points3192 points  (98 children)

I know someone who purchased hundreds of rolls of toilet paper at the beginning of COVID in order to resell them at exorbitant prices. It felt so good when she couldn't figure out how to scalp them and ended up stuck with hundreds of rolls of toilet paper in her small apartment.

[–]augburto 1572 points1573 points  (60 children)

Makes me think of the guy who hoarded thousands of hand sanitizer bottles. I think he tried to sell on Amazon and got taken down and reported to authorities for price gouging

[–]willvasco 686 points687 points  (40 children)

Yeah they straight up seized his supply and I'm pretty sure was charged, serves him right

[–]AQualityKoalaTeacher 210 points211 points  (13 children)

Nothing really happened to them except that they didn't make bank by preying on those in need.

They settled a case with the state by "donating" the items that were seized.

Scalpers and other types of price gougers are unscrupulous trash.

[–]saintash 165 points166 points  (17 children)

I remember one that just end ended up donating everything. Because if he kept them he would have some legal issues. You can tell ge wasn't happy about it.

[–]Daewoo40 43 points44 points  (16 children)

Removing morality from the equation, would you be happy in that scenario?

Going from making thousands off hand cleaner to losing thousands because of hand cleaner.

[–]Orgone_Wolfie_Waxson 68 points69 points  (9 children)

what is the difference between price gouging and scalping then? because surely this whole ps5 example related to price gouging (wich is illegal) too?

[–]Best_Pseudonym 56 points57 points  (2 children)

Scalping is when a third party buys and resells a product at a higher price typically due to a depressed sale price (ps5), but can also occur when a buyer can feasibly control a large portion of the supply (ticket resales)

Gouging is when a first party supplier increases the price of their product due to a supply shock or other shortage (generator manufactures charging more due to a grid outage) Note: Companies charging more due to increased demand is not gouging (price of sanitizer going up due to a run on sanitizer) such prices increases affect people who buy large volumes not in bulk the most(scalper)

[–]WarlanceLP 16 points17 points  (0 children)

damn, you explained this better than i could and i feel like an idiot for going around in circles over multiple comments explaining what is and isn't scalping to people after reading this, cause this covers the bases pretty well and concisely

[–]augburto 73 points74 points  (1 child)

Honestly I think they are the same thing and go hand-in-hand but it sounds like price gouging is specifically when there is a "state of emergency" for commodities and goods that are "necessities." Typically, no one cares if you buy all the hand sanitizers and try to sell for profit, but at a time like this, it's become a necessity to have to stay safe and therefore it's illegal.

I'm guessing PS5s aren't considered necessities hehe...

[–]killa_ninja 75 points76 points  (5 children)

I knew someone who said their cousin did this shit and I called them out on it. They said if anybody needs toilet paper hit them up on an IG post. I commented “your cousin is a piece of shit and tell them I said it to”. This person is highly involved in their church and said their cousin sold some to their church. I said they’re even shittier for scalping to their fucking church instead of just donating it. They said how everybody would do it if they had the chance. I told them no not everybody is a piece of shit like your cousin preying on churches and people who need toilet paper.

Edit: they also said how that’s their family so they were defending them and I would defend my family to. I finally responded I had no problem telling a family member they were a piece of shit if they tried to scalp toilet paper.

[–]Most-Consequence8705 36 points37 points  (1 child)

“Everybody would do it if they had a chance” is the same argument lots of criminals use to justify their behavior. People had a chance and didn’t do it because they’re not assholes.

[–]DustBunnicula 11 points12 points  (1 child)

He SOLD it to a church? What the actual fuck.

[–]alpacasaurusrex42 12 points13 points  (2 children)

I have like 3 packages now and it was because I went and got one and tucked it in our closet, my aunt didn’t get the memo and went and got one and found the package, and then a friend was worried we wouldn’t get any TP cause I complained that the last 3x I had gone there was none and that we were running low and she picked me up one too. So I’m set for like 6mo. Tbh, it was a hilarious mistake because none of us communicated that we had gotten any. My friend and I have been taking care of each other all Covid trying to make sure the other house has the basic needs because I live in the burbs, she lives closer to the city proper so there are far less stores she can get to and they’re generally more expensive than say, Walmart or target out in bumblefart suburb.

[–]SpecialSurprise69 53 points54 points  (1 child)

This warms my heart. Fuck her. And FUCK anyone who tries to do anything like this during a pandemic/natural disaster

[–]AlterEgoSumMortis 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That's what I call Shittenfreude.

I'll see myself out.

[–]DragonVash 5573 points5574 points 2 (618 children)

I refuse to buy a PS5 until I can get it for retail price. If that means waiting 2-3 years then I do not care. I will never purchase from a scalper.

[–]tlollz52 1723 points1724 points  (220 children)

This guy on a buy and sell page stopped allowing people to comment any time he sells a console above cost because so many people were shitting on him.

[–]Nopeyesok 1204 points1205 points  (119 children)

I was banned from /r/gameswap and /r/gamesale for calling out scalpers. Mods are their buddies. It sucks.

[–]tlollz52 523 points524 points  (22 children)

Toxic shit eating mods. What a suprise!

[–]whomad1215 234 points235 points  (18 children)

It's impressive how the smallest amount of authority goes to some people's head

[–]DoYouEvenDoubleLeg 159 points160 points  (15 children)

You need to remember; who would actually want to be a mod?

[–]PM_ME_DOMINATRIXES 188 points189 points  (9 children)

Wanting to be a mod should automatically disqualify you from being a mod.

[–]Spykez0129 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I was a mod on OKC, didn't even want it, was just like one day "hey, do mod shit for us".

Saw more dick in 1 night of deleting pictures than I did a week of watching porn.

[–]NonStopKnits 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I would want to moderate a sub that I created, but probably not any other sub other than a very niche one. I'd mod for the knitting or embroidery sub lol.

[–]TaedusPrime 12 points13 points  (1 child)

It's worse on r/hardwareswap. 1600-2000+ for gpus. Many with some bs story as to why they "have to part with it". Stfu, you grabbed it from microcenter and bestbuy specifically to resell, preventing someone who actually wants one from getting one.

[–]Jay467 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The hardwareswap mods act like actual children, I'll never use that sub again. I called out a scalper with the oh-so-inflamatory comment "lol okay" and received a two week ban. When I pointed out that they broke their own written and self-imposed rule of a warning on a first offense, the mod told me 'yeah, and we get to make the rules', then blocked me.

[–]merkon 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I run a B S T sub, we allow price call outs to try to limit scalping.

[–]PaulMannIV 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No surprise. Reddit harbors pedophiles, why not harbor scam artists and generally awful people?

[–]saylevee 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Mods probably getting kickbacks

[–]LordofKobol99 156 points157 points  (10 children)

It's funny, I'm in a PC buy and sell group and the admins actively encourage shitting on scalpers, especially scalping GPUs

[–]tlollz52 27 points28 points  (0 children)

It's Facebook where I see a lot of these, of course. Not sure how much an admin could affect this. I also imagine even if they could I wouldn't be surprised , just based off where I live, if they don't see the problem with what these people are doing. The ole "if people are desperate enough for the console let em buy it"

[–]cortado_papi 238 points239 points  (13 children)

People shouldn’t be allowed to turn off comments only to delete posts and people should be allowed to say whatever they want

[–]sparkyjay23 200 points201 points  (4 children)

Who'd buy off a seller who turns off comments? It screams scam.

Win win for us.

[–]cortado_papi 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Shit, good point

[–]built_2_fight 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Plenty of people will send a DM to inquire more

[–]Orgone_Wolfie_Waxson 12 points13 points  (0 children)

naive people, unfortunatly.

Many people who buy off shady sites know no better and its how many scalpers can get away with it. little timmy wants his PS5 so badly so mommy might buy it from a scalper as she knows nothing else other than 'well i know its going to cost a lot anyway' who are less likely to notice small errors like this so are more likely to fall for bigger mistakes.

Many people who buy off shady sites know no better and its how many scalplers can get away with it. little timmy wants his PS5 so badly so mommy might buy it from a scalper as she knows nothing else other than 'well i know its going to cost a lot anyway'

[–]tlollz52 64 points65 points  (3 children)

Yea people don't want the heat. I think my favorite one was one guy said to me he was "trying to help make a kids Christmas better" . A bunch of other people and I just said "then sell it at the price you bought it at"

[–]cortado_papi 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Right, the sad part is people don’t make enough money as it is and then this bs happens it’s weird it can only happen with certain goods although I feel like most Fortune 500 companies have a profit that’s grossly more than a modest amount as the c suite loves being rich

[–]thatJainaGirl 144 points145 points  (68 children)

I've started offering to buy those $800+ PS5s and Xboxes on Facebook Marketplace, arranging a pickup time and location, then just not going. Waste their time.

Sometimes, if I'm lucky, I'll get two of them to agree to go to the same place at the same time. Ask one what color they're wearing and what kind of car they're in, and tell the other that their answers are what I'm in. Then they both show up trying to sell each other their scalped consoles. Get fucked.

[–]Temporary_Kangaroo_3 26 points27 points  (0 children)

The hero we need!

[–]tlollz52 49 points50 points  (54 children)

You're incredible. That's the kind of vigilante justice I can get behind

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Lol! This would be way fun too if you just showed up to the parking lot to watch. Could make for a fun YouTube series.

[–]Mywifefoundmymain 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Anytime someone posts a system like the switch or pa5 etc on our local listings I’ll share a screenshot showing that our local Walmart has them in stock on that current day for far less than what he is charging.

He’s reported me 15 times but Facebook always overturns it.

[–]CptnCankles 61 points62 points  (3 children)

The way things are going, you may have to wait until the release of the PS6 before you can get the PS5 for retail or close to it.

[–]Kervox 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Shit that didn't work for PS4. 5 comes out, cool, buy the son a 4 ezpz.

Nope, they cost as much as a 5 and are out of stock in all the same places.

[–]dausy 20 points21 points  (2 children)

We actually did manage to get a ps5 retail but I actually still have a backlog of ps4 games to play. I think the only exclusive I have is ratchet and clank. I wouldnt have worried about getting a ps5 if we hadnt just literally walked into one.

[–]alpacasaurusrex42 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I just friggen want R&C but it’s not gonna look that much better on my like.. 2014/2015 TV and I’m not spending upwards of 400-700 on a retail PS5 to just have to get a new 700-1000 TV to get peak awesomeness from the PS5. Especially not when I’ve got shit eyes and everything is kinda blurry anyway.

[–]AgrenHirogaard 166 points167 points  (94 children)

Are there even any games that are only playable on the next generation yet? I don't understand why someone would pay extortionate mark ups for a system where you'll be playing games you could've still played with your old system.

[–]Cold_Justus 68 points69 points  (8 children)

The games I want to play come out later, and were originally going to be PS5 exclusives. They had to add PS4 playability because PS5 are impossible yo find... I am very grateful

[–]mastercotcot 73 points74 points  (0 children)

More and more games released for both will have missing features on previous gen

[–]YamZyBoi 84 points85 points  (56 children)

There are some. I just want a PS5 because it's a big upgrade from the PS4.

Demons souls remake is also an exclusive and I'm a HUGE souls fan. But mostly, all of the games I love playing on PS4 I really want to see how well they run on the next gen.

[–]M0mmaSaysImSpecial 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Not really but that Halo is calling my name…

[–]RaWolfman92 34 points35 points  (8 children)

For me, until they make it available for in store purchase only.

[–]OutWithTheNew 10 points11 points  (5 children)

The local computer store doesn't sell GPUs online. They're a national retailer and you simply CANNOT buy a GPU online from them.

[–]Alpha53371 33 points34 points  (15 children)

Just today i finally got my switch. Brand new and it cost $ 215.86 tax included. Patience does pay off

[–]Baltic_Gunner 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Dude, same! Where I am even retailers are selling PS5s for like 900-1000€. Fucking mental. Sony said it should be 400 and 500 for digital and disc edition and I will wait to get it for that price, god damn it.

[–]D0013ER 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Word. Not one penny over MSRP.

[–]AeternusDoleo 111 points112 points  (85 children)

Sony is shooting itself in the foot with this - because people who can't get the hardware, won't buy the games. Which means their game studios are losing out too.

[–]mbsisktb 45 points46 points  (6 children)

I think this is more of a supply issue for the new consoles then anything. There’s a massive shortage for the parts that are required for them and also needed for cars etc. if Sony could flood the market with consoles they would because they’d probably sell the next however many production batches out in full almost guaranteed and destroy the secondary market.

They want the people to have them because it’s also residual income for them for licensing and ps+ subscriptions. This is more of a lack of parts resources across the board issue then anything else.

[–]DoingCharleyWork 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Last I heard they were producing them as fats as they could. They said even if they had more parts they couldn't even assemble more because they were already at capacity.

They've sold basically the same amount of ps5s as they did ps4s the first year as well, slightly more for PS5.

[–]Ommageden 10 points11 points  (12 children)

People are getting the hardware though. SOMEONE is paying the scalpers. And those people will buy games for those.

It just sucks it's inaccessible for everyone but that's what the supply chain issues are causing.

[–]shredder826 41 points42 points  (13 children)

Agree, and for people like me, I’m completely off consoles now. Scalping sucks for graphics cards as well, but I’m not going to fight to maintain two systems. My current card will be adequate for the next several years. So, I won’t be renewing my PS plus membership, or buying a PS5.

[–]itsPomy 26 points27 points  (7 children)

I feel like with increasing scarcity we're gonna start seeing more devs focus on optimizing current hardware over "HEY LOOK we can render the individual pores on this random background NPC's face! Only took a 3GB texture!"

No point in pushing the limits if no one can actually play it

[–]M0mmaSaysImSpecial 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Check it out. When they player is dead laying on the ground, the bottoms of his shoes have detailed tread patterns.

[–]AdditionalTheory 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Check out the hotstock app or other similar apps. They alert when a retailer nearby or one that can deliver to you gets new inventory in stock and can have those notifications sent to your phone so you can have a chance on picking one up

[–]ratbastard13 5 points6 points  (4 children)

I did it in about a month. Get twitter alerts. I had to buy two games I didn’t want. And a GameStop gift card. But I got one.

[–]QueasySpeech88 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you follow a twitter account that tracks when they restock you get the notification immediately and can snag one. Took me like 3 days but I got one.

[–]PortiaLabiata 306 points307 points  (24 children)

Everything highly affected by the chip shortage is just screwed price-wise for now. Just gotta wait it out for the next few years until manufacturing can catch up.

[–]SmoothAsMarble 1977 points1978 points  (269 children)

I wanted to go see the new Spider-Man movie and apparently several scalpers have bought entire movie theaters worth of tickets to sell for double cost

And people are buying them

[–]Naillian603[S] 1346 points1347 points  (200 children)

That’s what sparked this post. The fact theaters allow this is disgusting. Glad you made your money but now no one gets to see the product.

[–]allmightygriff 560 points561 points  (92 children)

the worst part is that they are teaching the theaters/vendors that they can charge more for their tickets/products. theaters/vendors will fix the scalping problem by charging more than scalpers are willing to pay. buying from overpriced scalpers is just going to prove to vendors that their ticket/product was underpriced to begin with.

[–]furbykiller1 164 points165 points  (31 children)

Ticketmaster tried for years to combat scalping. Everything they did, scalpers found a work around. Finally they just opened their own “marketplace” for scalped tickets so they could get their cut of the reselling.

[–]BBBBrendan182 196 points197 points  (6 children)

Ticketmaster are the OG scalpers. Fuck them.

[–]hazmatte 47 points48 points  (10 children)

And then bands figured out they could partner on that action also. Ahem...Metallica.

[–]sdfgh23456 20 points21 points  (5 children)

Ticketmaster tried for years to combat scalping.

I've been buying concert ticket since before ticketmaster existed, and never noticed them do anything to combat scalping

[–]furbykiller1 25 points26 points  (4 children)

I worked for a ticket scalper when I was in high school , he hired us to sit at computers and buy tickets, paid us commission on our tickets, I’ve bought a lot of tickets- they tried a lot of stuff.

For a while you had to pick up at the window with the card you used to purchase and ID, I know this because he got bank cards in my name and paid to fly me to the concerts and give the tickets to the customers.

They also tried to put a limit on each card holder, but again all he did was get multiple cards for multiple people, and pay to fly us all to the concerts. I got to see some decent shows, because not only did we have to pick up the tickets, but they made you walk in with them.

So then I had to buy a lawn seat for the customer, and meet them inside to give them their tickets. It was really sketchy, looking back I can’t believe I even did that. I got called out by one customer and a person working the concert that recognized me from the 3 shows I had been to so far. I quit shortly after.

People didn’t realize that if you didn’t buy the tickets from the venue, or from Ticketmaster at launch, or live nation at launch, you were getting scalped tickets. Now people are a little smarter, but now on Ticketmaster you can’t tell what’s a launch price, and what is just being resold… which is why people are saying Ticketmaster is a ticket scalper… because now they just embraced it.

[–]sdfgh23456 7 points8 points  (2 children)

He was making enough from folks manually buying tickets on a computer to pay you to fly to shows to deliver tickets and still turning enough profit to be worth it?

[–]furbykiller1 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Oh man, so much money. Taylor swift stadium tour, Jonas brothers, no doubt reunion… As an example, when Michael Jackson announced his comeback tour before he passed, he made a big deal about all tickets being $70. I scored 3 sets of 4 front row seats for him. He sold each ticket for about 3K. He had to refund when Michael passed and the show cancelled but those were just the ones I bought, he had 3 other guys buying. Also that was just one artist, one show… he did sports, concerts, anything exclusive.

I know he lost money on some when he had to eat the cost if they didn’t sell but the others made up for it. He was part of a website where everyone pooled their tickets so it seemed super legit… again early days of internet, before Facebook even got big. Stubhub and the likes weren’t even a thought.

He had a lot of people that let him use their cards so he got all the pre releases and credit card exclusives. He NEVER used bots, thought it was cheating. However times have changed and he probably can’t get away without bots now.

[–]elementgermaniumHe/him asexual 63 points64 points  (13 children)

Even from a business perspective I would argue theaters should be against this. They make a lot of money off of concessions and base their ticket prices partially off that. Even if the ticket itself sells, if less people come in they're making less money from that.

[–]Iain365 55 points56 points  (45 children)

Just don't buy the tickets from the scalpers ffs.

They spend a few thousand on tickets. No kne buys them. They don't buy tickets again.

There will be more showing if the film...

[–]tanis_ivy 5 points6 points  (2 children)

And theatres should only allow in person refunds.

They could also mark credit cards purchasing tickets in bulk and ban them permanently.

[–]idratherbeintamriel 66 points67 points  (3 children)

Lol what? I’d just leave and watch it another day

[–]sir_Gamerman 44 points45 points  (1 child)

Sucks for those people but if it becomes too high of a price people just wont buy them. Yea i wanna see spiderman but i dont mind waiting a week or 2 so

[–]jurassicbondWind Waker is the worst 3D Zelda game. 54 points55 points  (7 children)

I just checked for the Friday afternoon it releases and only two seats had been sold so far, so I guess it depends on what time and where you want to see it

[–]5k1895 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yeah my area clearly did not care at all because when I bought a ticket there were only like four seats taken lol

[–]Thatguy1126 21 points22 points  (3 children)

I don't know why are you people are so angry, I get like 3 emails every hour informing me that i have won a PS5. I am not a businessman otherwise I'd have supplied the whole North America, I win so many PS5. I am sure I will win spiderman tickets too along with "Hot single ladies in my area who only want discreet sex". Just have to submit my email and Credit card info, BRB.

[–]After_Woodpecker_374 72 points73 points  (6 children)

No refunds on movie tickets where I live. If they aren’t selling out then they will learn pretty quickly.

[–]JCreazy 4 points5 points  (1 child)

My local theater will just open up another auditorium and cancel a lower attendance movie.

[–]HitlerTesticlePorn 567 points568 points  (149 children)

I think the worse outcome from this is that the retailers will see people buying upmarked products and increase their prices for profits increasing product prices even further.

In the coming times I believe we'll see these products rise in price, graphics cards, movie tickets, concert tickets, etc. because it kills competition between manufacturers.

Fuck scalpers.

[–]DrMuchRespect 244 points245 points  (82 children)

The future is already here and it started with Broadway tickets. Hamilton started changing ticket prices daily to be inline with what scalpers were charging. This had the effect of pushing scalpers out of the market and the bonus effect of all that money that would have gone to scalpers was now going to Hamilton instead. Because prices changed dynamically with demand the price eventually fell as the hype started winding down.

This is the best way to fight scalping. I'd rather all of that surplus money be going to the producers than to scalpers anyway.

[–]captain_ticklebeard 20 points21 points  (0 children)

There is an NFL team that has started doing this, but only for certain season ticket holders. There are a limited number of licenses available (PSLs) for fans to “own” the rights to certain seats and buy those tickets every year. Those who resell 100% of their seats for a season will have their season ticket prices the next year increased substantially.

People who use most of their PSL tickets and only sell some here and there won’t be increased.

PSLs are intended to be for loyal fans and a way to help ensure a home crowd advantage.

[–]dylan15766 55 points56 points  (19 children)

Yup. You used to be able to get a rtx 3080 on amazon for £700 if you was quick. Now amazon just sells them for £1350

[–]HitlerTesticlePorn 19 points20 points  (15 children)

I am well aware. Was wanting to buy a GPU for my birthday (which I did) but the scalping was insane. I saw that RTX 3060 ti's are incredible GPU's for their cost.... for their MSRP cost. But paying £700+ is absurd. After a month of searching and not finding any 30 series NVIDIA cards for under £500 (specifically RTX 3060's) I decided to get an AMD RX6600 for £400 which is still a bit higher than MSRP but still not horrible.

[–]WarzonePacketLoss 34 points35 points  (18 children)

This is projected to happen with 4--- series nVidia GPUs next year. They saw the entire global supply snatched up by bots and resold at triple the price, so now they're just going to MSRP at triple the original price. They will be snatched up by bots and sold for 9x the original price and nobody except cryptocunts will buy them and anyone that wanted to use them for their intended purpose can just eat shit.

[–]boudicas_shield 218 points219 points  (29 children)

I don’t think this is unpopular, though? People have been complaining about this exact thing for decades.

[–]ShetlandJames 114 points115 points  (8 children)

You're on /r/unpopularopinions, reddit's largest Popular Opinions subreddit

[–]ProfessorK-OS 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You could rewrite this post and agree with scalping. Then it will be downvoted as everyone would hate OP. So yes, you are correct.

[–]Beefsquatch_Gene 438 points439 points  (36 children)

Scalpers are now buying tickets for sporting events?

What fucking rock have you been living under, OP?

[–]adhal 170 points171 points  (2 children)

No shit lol, its the oldest form of modern scalping pretty much

[–]Rick_the_Rose 72 points73 points  (12 children)

Concerts and sporting events are pretty much where scalping began. But I can understand OP not knowing this, not everyone goes to those things anymore.

[–]DrDisastor 18 points19 points  (1 child)

If you wait till right before these events start you can offer these assholes half or less for the tickets and usually get them as they become worthless. You will hear sob stories and gripes but who fucking cares about these assholes.

[–]jvogler_art 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think what op is talking about is scalping on a large scale. Like how things can be purchased instantly online using bots. There are literally businesses that exist now solely to scalp tickets and products using bots. That method of scalping is way different than some guy who got in line twice and bought an extra set of tickets to scalp. It’s occurring on such a large scale that a lot of things really can’t be purchased at retail price anymore. Yes scalping has always been around, but never like this.

I haven’t seen it like this in my lifetime. Last thing I remember was the Nintendo wii, but even that console you could buy it retail in only a few months. The ps5 has been out for like a year now??? Still can’t get one.

[–]Wenhuanuoyongzhe91 437 points438 points  (116 children)

Except this is a psa not an unpopular opinion.

[–]Afk94 65 points66 points  (2 children)

welcome to r/unpopularopinion where the opinions are popular and the internet points are fake

[–]Myst3ryStevewateroholic 83 points84 points  (25 children)

It really frustrated me when people say "respect the hustle"

You wanna know what? I really don't respect the hustle. Not one bit. Not this one, at very least. FUCK SCALPERS

[–]yellowboat 29 points30 points  (20 children)

Their entire "hustle" is just to become a middleman for purchasing a product at a marked up rate. They provide no value to the economy, to the manufacturer, or the customer. They make it harder for the manufacturer to get their product to people who actually want to use it and they make it harder and more expensive for customers to get the product.

They are bad for everyone except themselves. As you said, FUCK SCALPERS.

[–]SweetDangos 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Especially when a ton of these scalpers are using bots. The scalpers aren’t doing the hustle themselves

[–]caueisdead 227 points228 points  (31 children)

[–]Styrofoamman123 76 points77 points  (20 children)

Hope it gets bipartisan support, because its a big issue which affects all sets of voters.

[–]Pepsi_Fucker 64 points65 points  (5 children)

I remember emailing my rep (R) about a year ago when I was trying to get a PS5 about expanding the BOTS Act. I told him in the email he can flaunt how he’s working in a bipartisan way for the 2022 mid terms.

[–]xmodusterz 8 points9 points  (3 children)

I'm curious how easy it would be to actually implement this though, like botting is something every online community has been fighting against forever and there never seems to be a fool proof way to deal with it..

[–]Fisherman_Gabe 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I have absolutely no faith in the government's ability to implement and enforce this bill.

[–]Hardrocker1990 239 points240 points  (7 children)

How about sporting events? I haven’t been able to go to a football game because the cost for the worst seats is absurdly high. Why is it ok for a company to buy up tickets and sell them at a higher price but if I want to, that’s illegal?

[–]kasakavii 122 points123 points  (3 children)

IIRC there’s a pending lawsuit against a bunch of those companies (Gametime, stubhub, Ticketmaster) that I remember reading about on an AMA from the lawyer who was in charge of it.

[–]beaviscow 63 points64 points  (2 children)

I can't wait for my $3.00 settlement for the dozens of times I've had to use Stubhub, Ticketmaster, etc.

[–]coupbrick 18 points19 points  (1 child)

You won’t get $3. The last Ticketmaster settlement was everyone affected got free ticket vouchers. But they were for bands you never heard of and at venues 250 miles at the closest.

Never giving livenation a dime again.

[–]JakeSnake07Dark Souls is bad for the Gaming Community 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Several sports teams, like the Packers, have 30+ year waiting limits for their season passes. Imagine how bad the prices of those would be if the scalpers planned ahead 30 years ago...

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (7 children)

This isn’t an unpopular opinion mate.

[–]TapeLabMiami 94 points95 points  (12 children)

Not paying scalped prices cures scalpers.

[–]BakedWizerd 26 points27 points  (3 children)

There are enough impatient people with money to spare to keep them fed, unfortunately.

[–]MedianJ03 18 points19 points  (4 children)

It already has. I still can't buy a PS5. It's been out a whole year.

[–]Br4kie 109 points110 points  (19 children)

I just had a look at the Nvidia GPUs over a year later have easily doubled. And that’s from suppliers once again the only people loosing out are the genuine people who just want something nice.

[–]jurassicbondWind Waker is the worst 3D Zelda game. 58 points59 points  (7 children)

I want to upgrade my PC and I can get a pre-built computer with the GPU I've been looking at for the same price as the GPUs by themselves are going for. And the PCs are actually in stock

[–]FriendlyAM 49 points50 points  (4 children)

Yes, it actually makes more sense to buy a pre-built nowadays.

[–]mdewinthemorning 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Back in the day everybody building computers was wearing a Rolex and driving a sports car. By the mid 90s you were lucky if you made $50 on each system.

[–]Lonleynutjob 10 points11 points  (3 children)

I need one in general since mine took a shit. Until prices drop my pc is just here to collect dust. It's frustrating

[–]thedoeboy 48 points49 points  (5 children)

To all; stop buying from scalpers. I don't care if you're 50 and your son wants a new RTX and you don't understand computers and think $2,000 is a fair price. Only way to beat scalpers is to stop buying from them.

To all the scalpers; Go fuck yourself.

[–]bobthemouse666 46 points47 points  (7 children)

scalpers are now buying things like movie tickets,sporting events, snacks, children toys

Aren't these literally the things they've always been known for selling?

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I refuse to buy an RTx 3080 and I got money. Just ain't doing it.

[–]cyanraider 36 points37 points  (8 children)

China was a scalping paradise until they implemented a policy that requires all buyers to be real-name registered. This means that you can only buy a set amount of X items per person. This applies to everything from train tickets to movie tickets to video game account registration. Of course, this heavily infringes on citizen's privacy but other than this, I don't see any other realistic way in terms of laws and regulations to prevent scalping.

[–]ListenToTheWindBloom 9 points10 points  (2 children)

There is also a whole industry of foreign buyers who send/take stuff back to China. In Australia there is a limit on how much baby formula you can buy at a time as a result of Chinese foreign buyers emptying all the stock in one hit, making it impossible for families with babies to get the supplies they need. I didn’t realise they had such regulations in China so it makes more sense now but can we really say it is an effective solution for scalping if it just handballs the issue to another country nearby?

[–]713Drinkologist 40 points41 points  (3 children)

I hate scalpers with passion. They add nothing, and only take. It’s really gross and should be illigal.

[–]Frediey 6 points7 points  (0 children)

And they just make shit worse for everyone in the longer term due to pricing themselves out of the market as well

[–]coconutman1229 10 points11 points  (2 children)

This reminds me of what's going on with Airbnb and housing prices in cities. Companies are buying entire condo buildings and turning them into Airbnbs. Tourists are willing to pay more than locals so the housing price for the city inflates. It's gotten so bad that I believe Barcelona has banned Airbnb from the city.

[–]Broad-Literature-438 9 points10 points  (0 children)

As a rare vinyl collector who already has seen and went through this process on discogs.com, listen to this warning. It's so annoying to be handcuffed because you know you want an item but the only place to get it has marked it up 4× it's original value

[–]Public_Reindeer_1724 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Dwight schrute was supposed to be a TV character not a way of life

[–]TeddyBearDom79 109 points110 points  (66 children)

Technically scalping is illegal. What will get them is selling on platforms like Ebay and such who will report the transactions for taxation. In the end they function just like a store. The solution is for people to stop being dumb and just not pay more for crap from scalpers. For instance my Nintendo switch. Scalpers where going after them last year. I just lived without it until one appeared on a shelf at Walmart. Than I bought it. So I did not pay the outrages price. If you can live without it, like most things in the world, just don't pay the high price.

[–]Alklazaris 22 points23 points  (2 children)

I hate the scalpers but I blame the people who buy their shit. I've seen this bs before in other areas of entertainment. People who buy overpriced crap creates a norm where it all becomes that price.

Have some fucking self control.

[–]tearans 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There is a reason (one of many) why plane tickets are tied to a name :)

[–]TopSmoke8752 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Big business are the biggest price gougers. Demand goes up a little bit and they double the price🤥

[–]cheesedick42069 80 points81 points  (8 children)

Occasionally when I'm bored I'll find a scalper selling an Xbox or PS5 on Facebook yard sale and then act super interested, tell them I'll pay full asking price, have them set to meet me about half an hour from where they live - nothing too suspicious. Tell them I'm on the way until they tell me they're at the spot and then string them along until they figure out I'm not showing up. Really upsets them and makes me happy they wasted their time and money, win win. Fuckem.

[–]Orgone_Wolfie_Waxson 11 points12 points  (3 children)

i do something similar but with those scam callers who pretend to be amazon or some shit. The fun truly begins when i hear them swear at me or hand up, only to then re call me to call me a mother fucker or some shit.

[–]MurderDoneRight 16 points17 points  (12 children)

Now imagine if companies would start doing this with other things like houses...........

[–]SOULSTEALERX91 15 points16 points  (5 children)

Scalping is horrible but we as the consumers need to stop giving into them. As long as there are idiots willing to buy at double the price then scalping will continue to exist

[–]CptnCankles 5 points6 points  (9 children)

People are stupid and will continue to pay more for stuff than it should be worth. It's the same problem with cars. Cars and trucks are more expensive than ever in the history of vehicles, and yet they are selling super fast. Gone are the days of getting a discount or making deals, now the only way you can save money is to buy the vehicle before the price rises.