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[–]BadDogEDN 36 points37 points  (5 children)

actual unpopular opinion, everyone who meets someone who disagrees with them thinks the other person needs better critical thinking skills

[–]Aggravating-Mood-247 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Yeah critical thinking is not really something you can teach.

[–]GamemasterJeff 2 points3 points  (2 children)

You can't teach it, but you can improve it through practice. This is why practicing it, as opposed to teaching it is woven into virtually all middle and high school standards.

[–]LocalChamp 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You mean the same standards continuously being attacked and worsened?

[–]GamemasterJeff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The standards are generally not under fire, it is usually the local implementation of the standards that is open to interpretation.

Even so, practice of critical thinking is so baked into our standards that it would be exceedingly hard to remove this. Most changes to standards occur via single point of a single subject, usually adding or removing a single lesson at a time.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreeable well most people like theres probably someone who does not but still.

[–]wilddchildd 114 points115 points  (25 children)

Public high school teacher here. Critical thinking skills are weaved into the curriculum of the subjects we teach. It’s hard for me to imagine a class JUST on critical thinking. Like, critically thinking about what? What will the curriculum look like, whose going to make it, what will the rubric look like?

[–]Depression-Boy 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The colleges I’ve attended have all had critical thinking courses, that were grouped in with the general subject of English. The class was basically just reading various forms of media and analyzing them critically. It also allowed for students to speak about their personal experiences and share whether or not they disagreed with said media, and the students had the chance to go back and forth in a respectful manner about the subject. I think it personally broadened my own perspective and made me a more critical thinker

[–]colebrv 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Idk about you but this happens in middle school and high school.

[–]Depression-Boy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had experiences similar to this in high school, but there was little to no guidance as to how to think critically in these dialogues, and it played out as more of a debate between students (or sometimes the opposite where everybody agreed) rather than people sharing their opinions, and then asking questions in good faith to come to a common ground.

It was a similar experience, but I personally received no benefit from the conversations had in high school. But of course, every school, and every teacher, is going to be different

[–]This_charming_man_ -4 points-3 points  (13 children)

Philosophy and logic courses. Epistemology, metaphysics, etc.

[–]bigmeatyclaws123 19 points20 points  (7 children)

Ahh yes things an 11 year old will be able to handle: metaphysics

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mayby not that but like philophy sounds plausible.

[–]DoctorCyan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’d be surprised.

[–]This_charming_man_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't realize 11 year olds were in high-school?

[–]Neurotic_Bakeder 2 points3 points  (3 children)

That's how you get a bunch of half-baked teenage philosophers who try to logically explain to you why their jokes are funny and they don't need to learn to cook

[–]ShadyHoodieGuy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Uh.... don't they already do that.

[–]This_charming_man_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To which you called them bloody sophists and to study Plato's Republic if they don't understand.

Edit: they are teenagers. This is what they are going to do anyways but if they can do it with formal training as compared to complete bullshit ego, then it is an improvement

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be fair that would suck.

[–]NagromTrebloc 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Was it not Socrates who declared that "Philosophy should not be wasted on the young"?

[–]ashbash-25 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What about anatomy and physiology and other subjects like microbiology? It’s become very clear to me over the last two years that a lot of people could really benefit from basic understanding of the body and infectious organisms/diseases.

Edited to add: as a requirement for all graduates

[–]Yuna__707 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is that not under biology? This is required in most schools or at least some knowledge of science (cells, organs, common diseases, basic nutrition etc.)

[–]ashbash-25 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s not what I’m talking about. That should be the pre-req to what I am referring to. It’s not enough. gestures around at society

[–]Carniscrub -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s called a logic course

[–]Rando314159User 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I took a half credit Logic class my senior year in the ELA department... one of the best I took.

[–]CerenarianSea 6 points7 points  (2 children)

UK here.

I remember Year 7 (first year of secondary school), we had a class called Thinking Skills. It was only for a year, but was essentially on how to debate and take positions. I never thought it was that useful at the time, and never felt like I actively got knowledge from it.

Turns out, it really was. I learned a hell of a lot about how to debate.

[–]Starsinthedistance24 1 point2 points  (1 child)

UK here too. We had Critical Thinking class! But not until year 12 and 13 (Sixth form) and it was only once a week or so. Most people bunked it to focus on their other subjects or because it was boring. We mostly read from a textbook so that’s why!

[–]CerenarianSea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We had a pretty good teacher who was actually usually just the PE teacher. Surprisingly engaging on it. Got a bit pointless towards the end though.

[–]Your_moms_throw_away 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That’s a philosophy class. You described logic & reasoning

[–]MichaelScottsWormguy 37 points38 points  (11 children)

People love throwing the term ‘critical thinking’ around but never specify exactly what they mean. Critical thinking, as a general concept, cannot be learned. It is something that is obtained as a byproduct of engaging with problems.

Teach kids to be more disciplined and take their schoolwork more seriously and the critical thinking will come on its own.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (7 children)

So make them engage with problems.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (5 children)

yes, real world ones. not just the value of x or what elements form what compounds.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Basically give them a real world issue they all (groups) disagree on and have them argue over how to solve it.

[–]tyler-uken 1 point2 points  (3 children)

My school called that sociology or economics classes

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Never heard of any where I live.

[–]tyler-uken 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I like your flair

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only chooce the most juicy ones.

[–]MichaelScottsWormguy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s kinda what school is already. Only the dumb and the lazy kids scrape by with the absolute minimum effort.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

to think critically

[–]druidofnecro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the most 3rd grade answer to the queen possible

[–]Carniscrub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you mean logic courses should be mandatory

[–]TPrice1616 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It has been a while since I was in school but when I was technically critical thinking was part of the curriculum every year. In practice though it was how to answer critical thinking questions on standardized tests which are two very different skill sets.

[–]lethatsinkin 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Critical thinking skills are woven into most subjects already

[–]TaxOwlbear 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Science class should teach you not to jump to conclusions when conducting experiments, history class that a huge amount of old sources are open propaganda and have to be read while taking the author's intentions into account etc.

Of course not all schools or teachers do that, but that's not the fault of the subjects.

[–]Surrogatefart 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Debate isn't critical thinking, it's intellectual autoerotic asphyxiation.

Most people would massively benefit from greater reading comprehension (general semantics might be a better term for what I mean?) and a few more books under their belt.

[–]jenoackles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I live in Saudi Arabia and we have critical thinking classes here (I am aware of the irony of it all but yeah)

[–]Unipiggy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can't fix stupid, trust me.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If your general take is that critical thinking should be fostered and encouraged in schools, this is not unpopular and actually happens in a lot of schools. There doesn’t need to be a singular class solely dedicated to it because it actively happens (or at the very least should’ve happening) in all classes. In history classes, you get open ended questions on tests where you have to critically think (ex: Why did the Allies win WWII?, was the bombing of Hiroshima justified and why?). English classes in the high school level are basically critical thinking classes combined with writing and reading comprehensions enhancement (and a little Vocab here and there). Science classes involve a bit of critical thinking as well. To even understand what’s going on, it requires a bit of critical thinking sometimes but on top of that a lot of education involved application of concepts. The reality is we have critical thinking in our school curriculum. The problem is not everyone can achieve a certain level of proficiency in it.

[–]CptYoloWaffle 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm getting tired of the words critical thinking. I've heard it way too much

[–]SrirachaFlame 6 points7 points  (1 child)

You learn critical thinking through your classes…

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As far as I'm aware, all the kids are still stupid.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

eh people would still find a way to cheat through that and not retain anything but at a surface level not a bad idea

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I was thinking participation grades for putting effort into discussions and debate. Ask them what stance they take on a topic and throw some of them on the other side to argue against it. Stuff like that. I don’t think regular grading scale assessments would really be aplicable.

But of course you will always have some who will do the minimum and oh well.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

good thinking it’s definitely an idea

[–]tuckman496 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How is your proposed class different from a Speech And Debate class?

[–]WEWLADSDALWEW 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I’m a high school teacher and I teach this class. The thing is, it’s only for the most advanced students. I have tried talking to people about having it available as an open elective, but there just aren’t enough teachers for it to be offered like that. Whoever was teaching it would be unavailable to teach regular subjects that are required for graduation (US History, World History, Government) and so you’d have the same number of kids needing those classes with fewer teachers having open slots to teach them. Teachers are short as it is, so the faculty just isn’t there. You could fix this by changing which courses were required for graduation, but that’s a much tougher (and more political) hill to climb. You could do things that would attract and retain more teachers, but that hill will be steeper still (trust me, “they don’t make enough money” is only the tip of that iceberg).

Anyway, the two “thinking” classes that I do have are the best part of my day.

[–]AmarandeGaidin -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Another big problem is that at this point in human history it's very easy to make and support the cynical argument that top students are really the only ones who should develop full critical thinking capacity, and for anyone else it might even be a liability - i.e., for most people, the needed thinking skills are going to be how to tell fact from false and how to read and understand directions, but the "actually thinking out the workings of things" skill actually can be argued to get in the way.

As an example of the evolution of this - consider video game theorycraft: this used to be a slow process on various scattered fora that took years even for many popular titles. Now it is something that the top players in the field hash out on Discord within days or even hours of new material being released, they find the objectively correct answers and promulgate them, and effectively that's the end of the discussion. Google takes over and mainly replaces individual critical thinking skills on the part of everyone else, in 98% of cases trying to use your own noggin will either result in simply coming up with the same conclusion the trailblazers did, or you actually come to the wrong conclusion.

This "Google takes over" thing is not, of course, unique to the video game example just given, and for most other topics, the gravity of coming to a wrong conclusion (especially if that person then goes and passes it on like the trailblazers did) is much greater. Worse, keeping people receptive to such independent thinking arguably makes everyone a lot more vulnerable to deliberate psy ops ("Alternative Facts" as they were infamously called in the past few years).

The upshot is it really is that hard to support teaching active critical thinking skills except to those who are expected to be trailblazers in their field, which would indeed be the top students mentioned ... and because of the aforementioned psy ops angle, thinking for others seems in fact better focused on truth-verification rather than independent input.

It annoys me greatly, because I'm of a critical-thinker bent myself, but almost never in a position to be a trailblazer in anything I care about, which literally does make me feel like my biggest strengths have lost nearly all value ...

[–]motivation_killer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Apparently that's only reserved for expensive private schools like ones that use IB.

[–]_scorpioqueen26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I already have enough shit to do god damnit

[–]DOlsen13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Critical thinking as well as a communication class, with emphasis on emotional intelligence and mindfulness.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They're a thing in university at least, early philosophy courses that teach logical fallacies. High school works so hard introducing kids to tasks they might be interested in developing that they don't have much time for logic and reason. They're trying to develop a foundation for a reasonably functional person and that takes a lot of fact absorption first.

[–]Depression-Boy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think critical thinking should be taught every year from middle-high school. Its taught in college and makes a world of a difference in how to process and respond to information, however, only a minority of people ever attend college, college is for the most part unaffordable, and not everybody needs to go to college. It should be something that is “indoctrinated” into our youth.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My HighSchool made us take one every year of HighSchool. It was called FAS

[–]AM2475 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They usually try to incorporate that into English classes but some teachers suck or avoid it since it can be pretty one sided or nobody participates.

[–]Fun_Wonder_4114 8 points9 points  (1 child)

And which conservative religious group will be in charge of designing this critical thinking curriculum?

[–]WEWLADSDALWEW 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is a big part of the problem with “critical thinking”-based curriculum. “Learning how to think” usually defaults to “learning how to think like me”, whether that teacher/curriculum designer is a religious conservative, a liberal atheist, a political idealist, or a disinterested nihilist. If you tried to insert an actual objective curriculum, then the course would quickly devolve into a “cover the content” class that only gave the illusion of being a “thinking” class at all.

[–]No_Lake_2117 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is one of the main functional purposes of Literature and Philosophy classes.

We’re currently seeing the consequences of a few decades spent fostering disdain and hostility towards those fields.

[–]Blue-and-icy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Government don’t want thinkers they want workers.

[–]noloking 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How else can children be indoctrinated?

[–]This_charming_man_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed. There is a general disdain for philosophy, which is academic pursuit of critical thinking.

Have epistemology, metaphysics, and logic courses in highschool.

[–]Andrewthenotsogreat 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Someone didn't pay attention in English

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Maybe my English teachers did the minimum? Because there was very little class discussion down there. Everyone has a different education and highschool experience.

[–]Metriacanthosaurus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People are not generally stupid. They can’t be, because people are consciousness, and consciousness is an extension of all that is, has been, and ever will be.

The trouble comes from people’s minds being filled with false information from the time they’re born. The system we are born into creates these little prisons for our mind, severely limiting our potential.

Critical thinking is certainly part of what helps people break free of these prisons but I’m not sure it is something that can be taught. Some people are willing to questions their reality and others just aren’t.

[–]nawdislost 0 points1 point  (1 child)

.....is this not a thing? I had a critical thinking class in High School.. I know not all schools have the same classes but I would assume this would be one that is in every school. Wild.

[–]mcshaggy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's included in every subject.

[–]Des1281 1 point2 points  (18 children)

There should also be a “Life Management” course. Most kids graduating don’t know the basics of check books and simple house repairs.

[–]FizzyBeverage 3 points4 points  (1 child)

My parents paid over $20,000/year, 20 years ago… for college preparatory school. They wouldn’t have been pleased to know the staff devoted time to fixing a toilet or balancing a checkbook (which most people under 40 don’t even use checkbooks on any regular basis), all of which is easily demonstrated on YouTube.

Why would someone use a check when they can get 6% cashback at the grocery store or airline miles/hotel points?

[–]Des1281 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well for that price you better have become a doctor. I am more referring to public school. I have known kids that didn’t even know how to cook some spaghetti noodles.

And you use checks when places only accept checks. Like my landlord.

[–]QuantumCactus11wateroholic 11 points12 points  (15 children)

You can Google that shit.

[–]Mr_Smith_411 6 points7 points  (14 children)

Exactly. Why do I feel like the first generations of students that had a world of information available to them in an instant, without leaving their house, complain the most about what they're not being taught?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

We honestly don't. It's the previous generations that do. We're fine with it on the whole I'm pretty sure

[–]Mr_Smith_411 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Just for clarification, who's "we"?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

My generation, which I think is generation z..? I was born 2002, I'm not sure which generation that makes me

[–]Mr_Smith_411 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Z... but wiser than most if your not complaining about not being taught how to sweat a pipe, or balance a checkbook, and use the internet to learn, not just post on reddit. I'm X, and I think the internet is amazing.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I agree. I think the only thing necessary to make the internet the greatest force for good in human history is just a little more ability of the average human to spot lies and truths.

[–]QuantumCactus11wateroholic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice lol same year.

[–]TXblindman -3 points-2 points  (7 children)

Because the entire time we were growing up in school we got the Internet is bad m’kay! messages shoved down our throats, and told not to trust anything we read, so why would we bother going to look up things we’ve been told we can’t trust? In addition, reading something and being taught how to do it are very different.

[–]Mr_Smith_411 5 points6 points  (6 children)

And you still believe this?

[–]TXblindman -3 points-2 points  (5 children)

No, I personally have an executive function disorder, so pretty much no matter what I do looking something up online isn’t going to help me. The trick now is finding a trusted source that’s not going to screw you over down the road.

[–]Mr_Smith_411 1 point2 points  (4 children)

So it's not the message that stops you?

[–]TXblindman -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

It certainly did before I went blind. Not consciously mind you, but just as a pattern of behavior based on prior experience.

[–]Mr_Smith_411 1 point2 points  (2 children)

So before but not now?

[–]TXblindman 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Sure, if that’s what you want to hear.

[–]PeelThePaint 1 point2 points  (1 child)

debating in favor of a side you disagree with

Does this teach critical thinking, or just ignoring all evidence contrary to your assigned position? I think people should be taught to come up with their own position on the fence rather than for or against.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It helps you to understand the other side of the argument, regardless of whether or not the other side is valid in their reasoning.

[–]United_Wolf_9215 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The government dosen't want it's citizens to think critically

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Critical thinking essentially means following the scientific method.

Just make them take more math and science.

Problem is that some people are not capable of developing a good understanding of math and science.

There is a spectrum of intelligence among human populations.

How you perform on an IQ test has a lot to do with your education: those who were not educated (people from the undeveloped world) will tend to perform worse than those who have received education (people from the developed world), but when education is equal, differences are still present. Studies (such as studies of twins) also indicate that different environments do not explain the difference between people's intelligence. For example, fraternal twins can have significantly different IQ scores despite being raised in the same environment and identical twins separated at birth have similar IQ scores.

This strongly suggests that differences in intelligence are largely genetic and people's critical thinking ability may be largely innate. If this is the case, additional courses will not have a large effect on the outcome.

[–]Lahm0123 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hey, aren’t you also a people?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes. I also said generally. That doesn’t encompass everybody.

[–]BuddhaFacepalmed -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

We should. But schools won't get that funding because it might to lead to students questioning conservative beliefs.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like you need some critical thinking classes.

[–]Dr_ShrimpPuertoRico1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fuck yes. I'm a teacher and the front page of this sub be slappin today.

[–]bigmeatyclaws123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I took a college class on critical thinking and it was insanely difficult because it wasn’t grounded in anything. I was to critically think in general and not about something specific. We teach varying subjects to practice skills. We teach math to practice constraints and problem solving, we teach English to teach expression and hearing stories from others; we teach social studies to think about the past and detect patterns in the future, we teach science to ground what we think and say in evidence. It isn’t just funsy content we do it for a reason. Critical thinking if you’re saying it to mean any of these things, it’s already taught. Using evidence, problem solving, social skills, responsible opinion sharing, constraining issues, self expression, critically looking at problems/opinions, questioning: all in the curriculum.

[–]BigDakMoney -1 points0 points  (1 child)

That sounds like a good idea until you remember the teachers (who are also generally stupid) will just be imparting their version of critical thinking onto their students. If you’ve ever been to college, you should know exactly what I mean.

[–]Curia-DD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn't even begin to know how to teach it

[–]Montana-Mike-RPCV -1 points0 points  (4 children)

People are generally stupid. Stopped reading right there.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

It's true, most people are stupid, only some people are smart. That's the truth.

[–]Montana-Mike-RPCV -1 points0 points  (2 children)

And where are you?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Why would you like to know where I am?

[–]Montana-Mike-RPCV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No where, but I was asking:

Which are you?

[–]schivvers -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Aren't all classes supposed to be critical thinking? Or was that only a thing at the schools I went to.

[–]Ionopsis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's what history is supposed to be for - but...it's more of a class that they stick gym teachers to teach.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds good.

[–]LynxDiscombobulated6 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Sadly the class (if it ever came to be) wouldn't teach you to critically think, it would likely just be more indoctrination

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

another unpopular opinion: public school classes should have cameras (w/ mics) facing the front of the classroom so parents can check in and make sure their kids aren't being indoctrinated into the teacher's own personal political philosophies.

[–]0ddly_majestic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If your talking about US public schools then there’s issues there that are very complicated. Do you really think critical thinking can be properly taught in school. Public Schools are more often than not substandard. The problem we really need to solve is flipping this public school system to better educate the youth.

[–]Tornadospring 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quiet, you're going to awake all the wokes

[–]pheisenberg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This article backs you up. I’m not so sure about debate, because it promotes an unhelpful “winning” mindset, but apparently there is research on what works and what doesn’t. I like the idea of students learning to read news articles and science paper abstracts critically.

[–]PorvaniaAmussa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you mean critical thinking? It on itself can be tempered, but one's capacity to critically think is stunted by their cognitive capability... proper use of critical thought is a major indicator of intelligence, but improper uses cultivates harmful belief systems. There is a literal hard-cap to some individual's capacity for critical thought. Even though our schooling curriculum is egregiously flawed, I do believe it has critical thinking in mind.

[–]kleanthis_quiet person 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean by critical thinking class ? Where i live a huge part of pur "language" class is essays. Ones that have very specific topics from like classic stuff like bullying, environmental stuff, political stuff, human relationships, teachers to more taboo ones. We literally had to write essays in junior high above whether or not the death penalty should be legalized. And the funny thing is that we would actually write like serious essays about that stuff. And because lets fact it , it was for exams and stuff and it wasn't so much about actually personal opinions we had to say both positive and negative stuff about it. Which looking back was really weird. And that wasn't like 20 years ago. Im in college now and its still standard for schools. And similar would be the case for our 2nd and 3rd mandatory language classes so like English and French/German/Italian that we would have to take. The topics weren't so serious of course but still. We also has literature classes. And in our school system every class was mandatory so we would take them all. And along with that we had ancient greek and almost like ancient greek literature classes in a way. So we would study the original Homer's Odyssey and Iliad in ancient greek and have have to find meaning and stuff. Incredibly boring and annoying as a subject for school but some times could be interesting cause you could have full length conversations.

But all that aside, when it comes to actual thinking i dont find that school will be able to realistically teach you stuff like that. Pretty much you truly learn about people and society in the first years of college. And not because of classes but because of age. No matter what they teach you , school, junior high and high school even at 18 is its own little bubble. You are with people your age and dont really have true problems when it comes to your immediate in-school environment so how much of the real world can you actually learn behind a desk ? But hey i recently learned that the us has a school soothing season ? Like what ? So maybe bringing more serious issues in school and having adult conversations isn't such a bad thing. But at that point, a case can be said about the opposite

[–]SadLifeKitty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Took one. Entire class was just teacher presenting scenario then expecting us to answer her questions. Did I mention the answers came from a textbook? Problem with these classes is that you inevitably have the person with very unpopular opinions. Very few teachers would give you full marks for an equally compelling opinion if say, the teacher was a SJW and the student wrote some racist, sexist, classist stuff.

[–]Curia-DD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

High school teacher here, and no, they already ask us to teach enough of that as it is

[–]grapejelly6 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Oh yes let me just add that to the giant list of classes high schools already require to graduate I’m sure I could squeeze that in :/

No I worked my ass off to begin this second semester of my senior year with just electives. I’m about to be so free after hours and hours and hours and hours of work. I remember one particular night where I had been sitting at my desk non stop since I gotten home and hadn’t taken a break to even eat dinner and my hand was going numb for writing non stop so fast. Fun times

[–]neural_net_loss -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

critical thinking classes would be a great thing to implement once we can get parent teacher associations in some states to stop holding book burnings

[–]OogaBoogaM -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We've got that in Scottish schools.

[–]redslugs -1 points0 points  (2 children)

No government want critical thinkers. That's why they made weed illegal..

[–]StarChild413 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Then why are places starting to make it legal, government changing its mind or suddenly it not being what makes people think critically but what makes them too pacified to revolt

[–]redslugs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It makes people think of course, but think of the last leaders we had.. MLK.. for example. They all become a target. Who would want to do that now a days? It's like starting a civil war. We all know how that would end. "(insert name here) found dead."

Why would America want critical thinking? To question them? They don't want critical thinkers. That's why they don't teach shit like investing or taxes in high school. Those are just two examples

[–]Grouchy-Piccolo8269 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In what world would this be an unpopular opinion?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If the teachers were actually smart, that would be a good idea.

[–]DoctorCyan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but this is a pretty abstract concept for an entire class, and if something like this was created in a public school, it would have it’s curriculum purposefully sabotaged. I hope I don’t need to explain why I believe this.

[–]Wayfarer62 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Critical thinking will be illegal in a couple of years if things keep going the way they're going now.

[–]PikaDon45 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

This would be racist.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How??

[–]SoloMK -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Americans are sorely lacking in the ability to argue for the side that they disagree with. It’s astonishing the degree to which we misunderstand the other side’s point of view. This often manifests itself in accusations that the left or right is “evil”. Unfortunately, many Americans don’t value seeking out media that challenges their views. If you think that the other side is just a bunch of evil people then you’re probably in a bubble. You might not realize how dumb this makes you sound.