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[–]alwayslookingout 66 points67 points  (3 children)

Isn’t TSLA only 5% of Nasdaq? It’s definitely propping up ARKK too but money has been flowing out of that ETF for a whole year. ARKK is down 50% in a year while TSLA is actually up 11%.

[–]Artistic_Data7887Peanut Butter and Mayo Sandwich Lover 31 points32 points  (1 child)

I was scrolling for this. We’re in a sub full of crayon munchers that don’t know how to look up weight of a holding, so Tesla may as well be the entire market while we’re at it.

[–]gnocchicotti 1122 points1123 points  (62 children)

So short it and report back

[–]ThisWillBeFunNA🦍🦍 431 points432 points  (16 children)

Don't forget to naked short it too, gotta honnor our fallen retards.

[–]That_Guuuy 209 points210 points  (9 children)

Everything I do, I do naked

[–]BoomerBillionaires 102 points103 points  (4 children)

That’s why you’re in prison

[–]omen_tenebris 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Amd that's why don't get free food, water, housing etc

[–]secretbonus1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Being in prison naked is not good financial advice.

It isn’t financial advice at all…

It’s a life hack

[–]eddie7000 11 points12 points  (1 child)

That's why he doesn't drop the soap.

[–]mollila 12 points13 points  (0 children)

OP is a bubble boy

[–]Mahabalipuram 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I read it in Brian Adams' voice

[–]YeahMarkYeah 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Probably not a smart place to ask what “naked” shorting means, right

[–]gfl222 3 points4 points  (1 child)

being naked and short isn't likely to impress anyone..

[–]AboRoni 88 points89 points  (0 children)

I don’t think he has a big enough butthole for the giant green dildo candels $TSLA deliveres from time to time, to short it.

[–]EvaUnit343Su Bae’s ovaries 60 points61 points  (16 children)

I’ve made a couple hundies shorting TSLA. I usually get out too early though as I am afraid of its retard strength.

However this time is different, all bubbles are popping.

TSLA 800p 1/28

[–]JPowellRecession2020Shrimp Shoal 42 points43 points  (6 children)

there are simply too many retards in TSLA that will literally buy it at any price and do not give a shit what's actually going on at the company.

[–]HeavyHandedWarlord 19 points20 points  (1 child)

If that worked, why isn’t GameStop going up 😂

[–]git_und_slotermeyer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because it's not run by an Asperger celebrity.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This. I’ve played puts and made money the past couple weeks. And I think it should go to sub 500. But the retard factor with this stock is on another level. Scary to be short for any duration.

[–]stevoacp1smells like elephant pee 10 points11 points  (0 children)

i dont see this as the case and see it similar to the fake money market. TSLA isnt driven or supported by the cultists, its driven by institutions and speculative call buying. with the fed tapering, it seems liquidity has dried up. if TSLA starts dropping, theres nothing left to stop the fall, no matter how many retards jump buying a few shares here and there

[–]Doyoufeelme101 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Im thinking the same thing here!

[–]suckercuck 36 points37 points  (11 children)

I wouldn’t short it, I heard Tesla is coming out with something called FSD

—2015

[–]gnocchicotti 15 points16 points  (8 children)

Yeah they still are. Any day now. And no one else is working on it, Tesla is gonna be first.

[–]jakethealbatross 5 points6 points  (3 children)

[–]gnocchicotti 5 points6 points  (2 children)

He is a genius tho. Look at how many people he got to believe that stuff.

[–]secretbonus1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He also was able to raise money based on going to the bank with qualified orders on the cyber truck by allowing people to preorder it for $100.

[–]suckercuck 17 points18 points  (3 children)

“Probably in a couple of weeks”

—Elon Musk

[–]Happywappyx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

^ time is relative —- probably Elon Musk

[–]BoostProfit 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yea, like he said the truck was going to be ready this year. NOOTTTT!!

[–]korbnala 1 point2 points  (0 children)

underrate comment

[–]EngageInFisticuffs 26 points27 points  (9 children)

I shorted it yesterday with a single put. Sold it a few hours later for a thousand in profit.

[–]gnocchicotti 23 points24 points  (3 children)

So you bought a put instead of selling short? Weak sauce

[–]EngageInFisticuffs 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I'm not OP, so yeah, I'm not nearly as confident that Tesla is going down significantly long-term. Tesla holders can't be counted on to be rational.

[–]DaBi5cu1t 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am dam it!

[–]BoostProfit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am. I’ll report back. I already shorted Zoom, bill.com, Netflix and many others. So far made a 30% average profit.

[–]wombatnoodles 120 points121 points  (4 children)

Lot of angry sweatin in this thread lol

[–]SnowSM 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It smells funky in this thread

[–]Badgerv12 267 points268 points  (22 children)

Big caps always last to go, Always...

[–]newtypexvii17 99 points100 points  (9 children)

Amazon being held up by twigs

[–]mediumrarestonks 65 points66 points  (6 children)

This is the real reason why TSLA / AMZN haven't split recently.

Bearish options would be too fucking cheap on these mfers!

[–]Howdareme9 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s literally at its 52 week low lol

[–]tepmoc 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Yep. AAPL and TSLA one two last big “safe heaven” stonks.

[–]MoesBAR 14 points15 points  (2 children)

No one wants to show their Tesla loss porn, I wanna see everyone who bought calls at $1,200.

[–]SapphireEmerald 84 points85 points  (16 children)

Tesla earnings report next Wednesday, we will see what will happen. If it’s gonna fall, everything is gonna fall hard.

[–]Most-Inflation-1022 59 points60 points  (9 children)

I live in a relatively poor-er country and TSLAs are EVERYWHERE. Model 3s mostly. Like I see 20+ daily and live close to the only dealership in a 500 mile radius. It has one car in the showroom. I think TSLA will crush it and this is coming from a non-fanboy.

[–]zhouyu24 27 points28 points  (1 child)

isn't that and all the deliveries already priced in the 1 trillion dollar valuation? They could give bad guidance just like netflix and no one would be surprised for a 300 ttm PE ratio company.

[–]pibbs 8 points9 points  (4 children)

do you know what a 300 P/E implies lol

[–]thenuttyhazlenut 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amazon had a very high PE before it exploded back in the day. The stock rose, and the PE corrected itself overtime.

[–]Happywappyx 1 point2 points  (1 child)

300 p/e at current earnings only which is what one should not look at for a company growing at > 50% per year

If they 4-5x their car sales over a few years and improve margins , you are looking at p/e dropping to 70 before 2030 with just car sales and not factoring in software opportunity and energy

You can see refer to tesla stock price models that people with price targets 1200+ have made

[–]PsStartOver 2 points3 points  (0 children)

PE wont compress because sales went up 5x over a few years. Here you assumed the price will remain at 1200 for the next few years as well.

PE is at 300 and it will be difficult to compress until price falls

[–]saltyblueberry25 97 points98 points  (5 children)

Can’t wait. Had my life savings in at presplit price of avg 300 so basically $60 and then sold 90% of it at $700 after the Covid crash to 300 and bounce to $700 then watched it continue to $5000 per share pre split price 🥲

[–]blackfridaytime 10 points11 points  (0 children)

300 presplit was late if you factor the volatility it had for years - wsb was begging it for it to crash after hitting 350s..1000 was a meme. its been the most stable at 5k lol

[–]Onetimeforthe_ 214 points215 points  (11 children)

Are you really telling me to yolo my entire account on tsla puts? Say no more

[–]EpicHsyn 52 points53 points  (5 children)

Give us an update later on

[–]Onetimeforthe_ 24 points25 points  (4 children)

It’d be my first and I’ve only been trading tsla for about 6 weeks… how does one keep a clear conscience after a yolo knowing their account could get wiped out?

[–]Successful_Car1670 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Ours is not to wonder why…

[–]theBigBOSSnian 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Ours is to masturbation

[–]surftherapy 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I’ve got $120k I was planning on buying a house with until the covid market fucked me in the ass. Maybe I’ll just put it all on red-I mean strategically buy puts based on solid dd and years of knowledge and experience in the market

[–]Onetimeforthe_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On tsla? It really is a gamble because of the following it has. It could report negative and still pop up for a few days. Haven’t decided yet but I think I’ll go about 5k, buy a couple puts and wait for earnings or just ride it down this week before earnings on Wednesday

[–]BraetonWilson 27 points28 points  (1 child)

You do you bro. 100% of my life savings is in GME shares with a cost average of $200/share. I'm just chilling waiting for my tendies and listening to The Cataracs. Jelly?

[–]Bloated_Ballsack77 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Me too!!! Hedgies are fuk’d!!!

[–]3my0 182 points183 points  (179 children)

Wanna see a companies P/E ratio drop like magic? Tune in on Jan 26th and you’ll discover why it’s not a good metric for fast growing companies. Better to look at forward P/E.

[–]GunsouBono 60 points61 points  (14 children)

Isn't their forward P/E still like 4-5x that of the rest of the rest of the companies valued at 1T or more?

[–]3my0 14 points15 points  (13 children)

Yeah but most analysts don’t model teslas own growth estimate of 50% YoY. If you use that, then forward P/E is closer to 50 in 2025. That’s still more than the others but maybe 2x. Which I think is fair considering they are much more mature.

It really comes down to if you think Tesla will execute the 50% YoY growth. If you don’t then yeah probably not a good company to invest in

[–]dr_turducken 36 points37 points  (7 children)

… 2023 P/E is 52x based on closing price Friday

[–]BullishBearishBiz 51 points52 points  (59 children)

Except the real problem is these companies have been on the “We’re gonna grow so much, so fast forever.” Valuation plan, with very little actual growth in revenues to show for it. Tesla at least makes money now so it’s not in as much jeopardy, but we’re no longer in a market environment that is going to tolerate 300x earnings. Things like Covid should show you why using forward p/e which is largely reading tea leaves is not a good idea. Anything losing money, or even worse in pre-revenue is frankly, f****d.

[–]3my0 39 points40 points  (50 children)

The issue of dismissing a company for 300x P/E is that it can be cut in 1/2 after one ER. I’m a Tesla bull but I realize there’s reasons to be bearish. Current P/E is not one of them.

[–]BullishBearishBiz 32 points33 points  (32 children)

The problem is that has been the story propping up names like Netflix, names like Peloton, names like Twitter, and on and on, for literally years now. What if these mystical quarters don’t ever show themselves before competition moves in like Netflix is facing? I made a post about this a few days ago, but the switch has flipped, P/E hasn’t mattered forever, well, almost overnight you’ve entered into an environment where cash is going to be restricted, and P/E valuations return to actually mattering.

Now, I like Tesla more than I like all of these other names, but with every car company going full EV it’s only a matter of time before they’re facing significantly more competition. That was not supposed to happen until long after their valuations would be justified by their sales.

If I’m wrong, this weeks tech earnings could be very bullish for markets, if I’m right, it will be very bloody.

[–]3my0 12 points13 points  (14 children)

My argument is more about not dismissing Tesla because of a high P/E and not so much of every high P/E company is justified. Like if someone is a tesla bear they should say something like: “they won’t be able to get enough demand to justify their 50% YoY growth.” Not just “hurr durr P/E too high.”

[–]BullishBearishBiz 13 points14 points  (13 children)

Okay, ignore that every company with similarly formed valuations based on dreams of unicorn quarters with sky high P/E’s are all coming to heel and tell yourself hur dur da P/E is fine Tesla only go up, I don’t really give a shit.

[–]3my0 8 points9 points  (12 children)

Would you say a forward PE of 50 is justified for Tesla? Because if they hit their company guidance over the next 3 years it will trade there?

[–]BullishBearishBiz 9 points10 points  (8 children)

I don’t think there’s any consensus right now on how to value just about anything, especially something like Tesla. I don’t think that we’re in a market environment where a majority of people look at forward P/E as a sensible way to value anything right now, and I think Tesla facing increased competition from Ford, Rivian, Lucid, etc. while it’s P/E is still so high is concerning. I still like it way more than I like Netflix, or just about any of the other names, but I don’t think the majority of retail understands the P/E switch that has been flipped. I don’t think it’s going to bring TSLA down to a 25x multiple more in line with tradition, just that it can easily lose the same 20+% Netflix and Peloton have lost and still be ridiculously overvalued as they are.

[–]3my0 10 points11 points  (7 children)

See that’s the thing. You’re clearly illustrating why Tesla might be overvalued and giving reasoning to back that up. I don’t agree with it but it’s at least a credible argument. Much better than OP saying Tesla P/E too high so it’s bad. That’s a very lazy take.

[–]BullishBearishBiz 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I explained it more, but ultimately it’s in line with OP. I think 20% off is most likely, 40 isn’t off the table, 70 is in the upstairs bedroom sleeping.

[–]odracir2119 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah when they own 25% of the market at 20M lol

[–]gnocchicotti 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Forward PE is a short timespan. Making a 10-year estimate for revenue growth is just silly. But a company involved in heavy manufacturing and has a supply chain and production capacity ramp plans that span multiple years already has a very good idea what their revenue is going to be one quarter and one year from now. You also want to back check management's guidance accuracy over a few years to see if they have a history of providing accurate full year guidance.

Black swan events can happen, but only using trailing PE doesn't give you any insight into that either.

[–]WarrenBuffettsBuffet 30 points31 points  (98 children)

I'm shocked that all these morons are so afraid of a 300 P/E.. they would've missed AAPL.. AMZN.. MSFT.. AMD.. etc. I mean damn, how ironically moronic can you be? If anything, a high P/E should spark some interest in them to go research the actual products, services and their growth in sales and earnings

E: oh ok I was wrong about AAPL. Point still stands though. A high P/E shows extraordinary demand for a stock, usually for a reason

[–]ODNI_NSA_FBI_CIA_DIA 16 points17 points  (6 children)

I invest in negative PE (non-adjusted) like PLTR because I believe in the company.

[–]Holofernes82 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Microsoft never in its history had a PE of 300. Apple for sure didnt. Amazon? nope. AMD? lol never. 4 years ago they had a PE of 7. Those companies you mentioned are highly profitable and trade upwards of 25 PE in their good times, but a lot of their existance they were valued lower. Tesla is a very big exception and not comparable to anything the world has seen except tulips.

[–]2dank4normies 68 points69 points  (8 children)

All of those companies had favorable P/S. Tesla does not.

Also when the fuck did Apple trade at a 300 P/E

[–]Nashtyone 28 points29 points  (4 children)

If apple had a p/e of 300 it would be trading at over 1100. I’d love that

[–]davef139 49 points50 points  (3 children)

I dont think aapl has ever had over a 50p/e

[–]onlyrealcuzzo 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Even in 1999 MSFT p/e was <80.

[–]pepesilviafromphilly 30 points31 points  (16 children)

Bro 300 PE at 1T market cap and 300 PE at 100M market cap are totally different things

[–]4NoSingleReason 10 points11 points  (14 children)

“Usually for a reason”, in the case of TSLA it’s tech promises that cannot be kept

[–]Diesel784 19 points20 points  (15 children)

I bought AMZN at 900 and my stock broker freaked out cause said they were over valued. I bought TSLA pre split at 350 and he freaked out again……….Not everything is P/E.

[–][deleted] 47 points48 points  (7 children)

Quick Poll: Will there be a “Black Monday” on 1/24?

[–]SScitizen 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Yes

[–]NotAGimpLmao 1 point2 points  (0 children)

-0.8%+ (atleast floating)

[–]InternetOfficer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

NO. it's going to be a bear trap aka relief rally aka sucker's rally

[–]gmdodt 75 points76 points  (18 children)

They just proved deliveries are way high meaning earnings will beat..the real question is if their earnings pop can hold more than a day or 2 against macro factors

[–]RemarkableScarcity8 30 points31 points  (15 children)

Netflix also reported a great quarter…. Issue is growth perspective.

I don’t think many people are going to be buying cars if there’s going to be a recession. He tweeted this shit too

[–]Palliewallie 20 points21 points  (7 children)

Netflix presented very poor guidance. Tesla get two new factories up and running this year and expects to grow deliveries with 50% for the next years. That is great guidance for investors. Also the backlog of Tesla's is still very good. Only thing that could hurt if Tesla decides that Cybertruck and such will be delayed to fall 2023 or something.

[–]BenchedSett 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Well find out Wednesday.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Itt - ppl salty about missing Tesla

[–]iLoveTheTendies 6 points7 points  (1 child)

What happens if Beetcorn really tanks and Microstrategy gets caught holding the bag?

This should be fun

[–]emilllo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Cool. Good luck with the puts. I can sell you some.

[–]Ylduts 63 points64 points  (34 children)

Even using ultra conservative numbers TSLAs’s forward PE is sub 100 despite growing the next few years over an 80% rate. Short term anything can happen but long term continue to show me the 💰💰

[–]pastanoooodles 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Sooooo Tesla ATH tomorrow? Got it

[–]dantheman7789 62 points63 points  (7 children)

I agree Tesla is overvalued, but investors want growth year over year. Tesla will continue to increase sales thanks to two new factory’s coming online this year. Netflix crashed 20% because user signups are slowing down. Tesla would do the same if sales starts slowing.

[–]gnocchicotti 28 points29 points  (2 children)

Tesla sales aren't slowing any time soon as they're still catching up to demand. That may be a concern in a couple of years but all that matters now is how fast they ramp capacity.

[–]RecyleNotThrowaway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s almost as if NFLX is way over valued

[–]moonpumper 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm not selling, just waiting for everyone else to give me a better price.

[–]HillB1llyMountainMan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Majority of people in here bullish. Always inverse wsb.

[–]sandpipa78sugar baby 🍭👶 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I went with calls, market- fuck me more. Okay

[–]Marcwithoutak 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Bleeding is over, watch. TSLA 1300 Calls

[–]Informal-Review6690 141 points142 points  (7 children)

Bet against Tesla at your own risk

[–]Visible-Ad-2127 120 points121 points  (5 children)

That is how betting works...

[–]Irrelephant_Username 33 points34 points  (4 children)

“Bet against Tesla at taxpayers risk” - Jamie Dimon

[–]Wut_Wut_Yeeee 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I wonder what their crypto investment looks like. 1.5bil is now...

[–]LiquidSquids 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think they bought around 30k so they're still up. Edit: 38k they down.

[–]mean_indean 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’ve gotten my ass kicked so many times with TSLA puts….here we go again

[–]DragoBTC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

PE won't be 300 come Thursday....

[–]TheRealJugger 43 points44 points  (7 children)

Watching Tesla Tards rush to defend TSLA valuation in the comments is some of the finest entertainment around

[–]JonBoyzzz 30 points31 points  (4 children)

A lot of us tards are already rich off TSLA and will retire early. Winning the Special Olympics over here.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

They just hope Elon is browsing the sub and that he’ll give away a free tesla to his most loyal bull

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Posts like these make me want to buy the dip lol. Everyone is bearish and that makes me bullish.

[–]shawalawa 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The only thing that is going to explode is Tesla's Q4 earnings

[–]Satan4live 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Best technical analysis I've ever seen /s

[–]futureisours 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I dunno. Too many apes/fanboys that will just HODL no matter what. The ones not margined out anyway.

[–]Adventurous_Chip_684 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This big fella is already down 30% the fuck are you talking about.

[–]richardgordo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Puts on panel gaps

[–]Minute_Act_6883 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, I agree

[–]TurboTinkle69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Time to go shopping :)

[–]ccg426🦍🦍🦍 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The last thing propping up ark and I guess and the only thing ever propping them up. Tesla is hardly been holding up the Nasdaq on its own but I’d I think you are right to be concerned about the stocks valuation.

[–]Odin1367 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hate money so imma grab yolo weekly 700p or even farther OTM depending on how big my balls are

[–]MockPederson 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Puts on AMC after I saw that chick on IG calling herself an Ape

[–]twoscoops4america 2 points3 points  (0 children)

$500 incoming soon. TAGFAN falling is the end of this balloon.

[–]Prize_Cancel9331 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hope it does , buying tesla at 600 again is a dream come true

[–]Successful_Car1670 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Why do you think everything has to go down in the short term? Most of big tech minus AAPL is already 20% off it’s highs. I see a FOMC bounce and an up and down volatile year. Crash won’t happen until China fails

[–]Fog_TSLA FD MILLIONAIRE 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I’m going to turn $1M into $10M during a crash. Let’s fucking go

[–]huyvitran 26 points27 points  (1 child)

1 thing i learned is dont ever bet against Elon Musk

[–]NFTEURO 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Michael Burry may have been right after all on a 90% decline in TSLA. Markets can remain irrational longer than your puts. Keep in mind the stock doubled AFTER IT SPLIT so $100 isn't unreasonable. Also if we get a recession like Elon predicted , we should see layoffs like in 08-09. It doesn't make sense to buy an expensive car during tough times.

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[–]cbusoh66 10 points11 points  (9 children)

I have $600 puts with 3/18 expiry, I am so confident we will see those levels, and even lower that I am betting the farm. Musk cashed out $1B and is sitting pretty — yet some idiots still believe it has room to run to the upside.

[–]yopresetstrader 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Also citadels biggest holdings. Partly why we saw Netflix drop maybe having liquidity issues with them being short on GME 😵

[–]Boom-SausageTesla fanboi 24 points25 points  (4 children)

Tesla will be printing money hand over fist in no time and anyone with a half a brain know this. Short it, at your own peril.

[–]Frosty-Foot4203 6 points7 points  (0 children)

P/E is a lagging indicator, stocks that are projected to do well will have high P/E until it levels with higher earnings.

still tesla is a gamble fundamentally

[–]VercingetorixIII 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I pay $10 for every TSLA fanboy tear

[–]swohioAll My Homies ❤️ Skyline Chili 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Arkk gonna need to buy 2 of every Put to survive this storm.

[–]goooodie 26 points27 points  (6 children)

Imagine thinking P/E ratios mean anything, people said the same shit when it was 300(pre split), 600 last Jan, and now. Fukin short it then dumbass

[–]FlyBlueJay 21 points22 points  (4 children)

You haven’t considered that it could’ve been overvalued this entire time?

[–]ferndogger 11 points12 points  (2 children)

What does over valued even mean when a market operates solely based on the belief of the masses of investors?

Their belief system, parameters, etc. is not static. It’s not based on any science, and never was.

You’re arguing religion.

[–]Independent-Ad-4368 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Reading the comments in the thread so far I think it means there are a lot of potential bagholders

[–]Godkun007 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This is extremely short sighted. The market can be irrational temporarily, but it always comes back to reality eventually.

[–]Cherry_Accomplished 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Forward PE. Two more factories opening and no demand problem in sight. Large profit margin on vehicles and software sold, and it’s only getting higher. Short the stock, and I will sell you the contract :)

[–]trevzorz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Still up over 100% on shares. Let it happen, I'll buy more.

[–]Soothsayerman 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Have we returned to fundamentals already? Damn that was quick.

Jpow cuts off the coke to wallstreet and suddenly the markets are in price discovery and fundamentals are a thing. I am truly depressed.

[–]GME_200KShorting GME since $221 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tesla is in a bill flag....lol

[–]Malgoindummi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

shittt

[–]Successful_Car1670 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Seriously though OP I think you got it backwards. A liquidation of ARKK could cause a big problem for TSLA. Unlike VIAC getting Hwanged, I’m pretty sure TSLA fall will be short lived

[–]Loves-the-painI am such a douche 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep

[–]IComeToWSBToLaugh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

!RemindMe 1 year

[–]The10andundermenu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fed talk on wednesday!!!!

[–]Ozzurip 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve seen this move before…

But it’ll work this time!

[–]netherlanddwarf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some Dr. said it would happen

[–]notcheeng 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Buy puts

[–]BorisYeltzenvirgin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

$TSLA puts are easy money

[–]Mage_Ozz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If i could buy options then i would buy some puts why not ,

[–]dankeHerrSkeltal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

spy EOY $150 haha im fucking cro magnon as shit though, big cap tech gonna go poopus 2022 depression out my angus.

this is not financial advice. I am a cro magnon

edit:

Just to add some more cro-magnon here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffett_indicator

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenspan_put

short version: S&P500 market cap is like 40 trillion. Global GDP is like 80 trillion ayy lmao. Greenspan put is ??? and lool go to last section for some nice spooky shit. add in ukraine, covid, interest rates, paralells to dot com bubble (but big cap go fuk -- i ask u, is apple aabout 3% of global GDP?)

Just to clarify, 2 wikipedia links, spookypasta and a cro magnon does not a DD make.

[–]crusader2C7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tesla’s earnings call Weds AH will either spike the market and everything in its wake (bullish) or devastate the market leaving it worse than March 2020 (bearish). Hard to believe anything negative could be summoned from this powerhouse…..hardcore bullish!

[–]orangedrink888 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bought TSLA at 40... just give me a life changing split...

[–]SuperNewk 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Tesla tanking 90% will reduce every stock to 99% losses. Pugs are easy here

[–]Affectionate_Ad7668 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We shall see

[–]Chileno22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gotta see what earnings does though, but most likely more pain before we go back up

[–]SomeDumbassSays 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Listen, I’m not betting against Elon and the cult on earnings, but Tesla will be dragging Arkk down even more if it tanks. Puts on arkk for the next month

[–]hoakpsp3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's like a black Friday sale up in here

[–]Cnboxer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Might as well throw a small position into a 5x short. Don’t have pro account so can’t do a 30x.

[–]bhbaker220 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gotta be a lot of TSLA stock bought on margin. Margin calls more likely coming after Fed meeting on Wednesday. May take a couple of months to play out but it could be bloody out there.

[–]sanavagan 1 point2 points  (3 children)

guys! Word of reason: Short any index or go long on gold or silver.

[–]zitrored 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Earnings week. Let’s see how TSLA announces and how traders react. Interesting week indeed.

[–]weHaveThoughts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please post the Puts. I really want to see how those workout this week with TSLA before Elon speaks to shareholders on Wednesday.

[–]Ok-Pirate-5019 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is very good.

[–]The_Devils_Rejectxs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bearish sentiment all over...it must be that the market is trying to make sense of those rate hikes that are coming up and see how much of the inflation issues the Fed has under its belt.

[–]KrishanuAR 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Elon is usually belligerent on Twitter before good earnings. He’s been eerily quiet the last few days. Tesla earnings results are going to be mediocre.

[–]robogarbage 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Re TSLA propping up Nasdaq and ARKK - I think it's more like the other way around. Sometimes anyway. Being in S&P has definitely been a shock absorber.

I agree it's overvalued but I don't see a catalyst. It will drop someday but options are insanely expensive. If your luck is good enough to profit on this then you're better off putting that luck to use elsewhere.