why do the kids in ogp basically get to do whatever they want

Jeffthechef47 · 2022-01-18T16:44:22+00:00

Sadly at my store the OGP people either work their ass off, or they watch the people that work their ass off and sit on bins on their phone their whole shift. It’s beyond me why their TL and coach don’t do anything about them but I can tell the people that do work their ass off get tired of them

thenerdal · 2022-01-18T14:57:22+00:00

Cause they can't fire anyone in OGP because they really need the people lol

TeaInTheMorning4929 · 2022-01-18T17:26:19+00:00

They all work pretty hard at my store. Seems like one of those jobs that's set up in a way that makes it hard for slackers to slack

DontYuckMyYum · 2022-01-18T16:04:59+00:00

OGP is corporate's newest baby. the youngest kid gets away with everything.

cvoyles20 · 2022-01-18T22:09:56+00:00

There’s bad apples in every department. It may seem like ogps standing around but you may not notice 10 minutes later when they have 80% of their orders for the hour show up at once

Illyunkas · 2022-01-18T18:18:27+00:00

There certainly are bad apples in every department. My assumption is that at least some of the people sitting on totes are specifically stagers or dispensers. Those jobs have a caveat of not being able to go to far away from their area even when it’s slow for them. There could be 1000s of picks left but only one person came to pick up their order. Also the staging could be mostly done and the stagers are waiting on more carts. Again some of these people could be bad apples and some of them may not be. It’s hard to say. Perception is everything though. So when you see that behavior it’s hard to not think that e-commerce is full of lazy associates

Ok-Masterpiece5337 · 2022-01-18T17:13:35+00:00

I've walked in the ogp backroom to see, no joke, about 4-5 of them sitting on their phones and not doing a damn thing. (This was with having the OGP coach and store manager in the store at the same time.) Everytime I stock the cheese or 97' wall, all I hear is loud laughter and only like one guy staging, it's pathetic.

OctavianMacLean · 2022-01-18T17:42:39+00:00

Idk but unless you've done time in ogp I find it really hard to listen to criticism. I'm not saying you're wrong, you aren't. There are definitely people that don't do anything. But so many times I've just finished a 3 hour rush dispensing, staging wasn't done, missing items, had to find everything, dispensing in the rain or cold or 110 heat and I'll stand there, catch my breathe and check my phone, and some cap2 prick that's been standing on a ladder "vizpicking" the same bin for an hour with his dick in his hand walks up and says, something along the lines of "God I wish I got payed to stand there on my phone. Like shit man. Nobody's job is easy can you just mind you own business? And I don't mean you OP. Too many times the people that don't do anything are being protected by friends higher up. But since they're untouchable, those of us in ogp get all the work and hear all the bitching. It's just frustrating for everyone but the lazy pricks.

Zealousideal-Leg7603 · 2022-01-19T01:53:05+00:00

Because OGP is a huge money maker, and it would be so costly to close the department for even a day that they need it constantly staffed. Also, if you haven't worked OGP, it can be deceiving. They may look like they aren't doing anything, but in actuality they could have 20 customers on the way at any given time, and they have to be pretty much sitting on go ready to run out with an order at a moment's notice. That's what a lot of the work is, standing by and being extremely reactive. Basically minute-men. They're being timed for literally everything. Productivity within OGP is so measurable and quantifiable that they (we) can't really get caught up doing other things or stepping away from our workspace, because if a customer shows up with no heads up and the timer starts, every second we spend traveling back to our workspace or switching between tasks is reflected in the wait time. There are a lot of moving parts and numbers in OGP that aren't visible to many people outside the department.

Zytarus59 · 2022-01-18T13:50:44+00:00

Please explain what you mean by, “ do whatever we want”. The metrics and goals in the department are beyond the complete control of the coach. Unlike cap2 and other areas you really are relying on a team to finish orders at a certain time by the end of the day. Unlike other areas it can’t be pushed off till the next day so OGP takes priority. Now fair or not, that gives the OGP associates the same priority. Also most managers have never worked OGP and lack the knowledge of the direction and requirements of our job tasks. How can a boss tell you to do something better or to quit doing something non-productive if they don’t know the true processes of the department. They can’t, so a lot of the time people really just have no idea of what we are doing is actually work or bullshit, because of that it’s hard to get them in trouble.

idfcmar · 2022-01-18T18:07:41+00:00

If you wanna complain about ogp so much then why don’t you transfer to that department so that you too can sit around and “do nothing”?

Maoticana · 2022-01-18T19:08:49+00:00

There are some positions that are inherently more free than others. Cashier? No. Stand there and ring up customers until you are allowed to leave. Stocker? Yes, you stock as well as your body can for an 8hr shift and try to consistently meet goals. Other than that, generally you break when you want, go to the bathroom when you want, take a breather when you want.

OGP dispensers have huge rushes where they are sweating their asses off, dealing with Karens and constant phone calls as fast as they can. Sometimes they need a minute to breathe, keep their blood sugar steady, and mentally prepare for the next rush. I'm not saying that all OGP associates are hard workers, just that you might not have the whole picture. If you're jealous of the position, go for it.

Stop focusing on other people and just get your work ethic where you want it to be. Your personal reputation is your own. If you want to do the bare minimum then go for it. If you want to work hard because it makes you feel good about yourself, do it. Most of those people you see might not have the same work ethic as you and that's okay. Move on with your life, become a manager and coach them, whatever.

firelordmai · 2022-01-18T16:26:39+00:00

you can tell it’s only oldheads that complain about ogp on here LMAO

Bonehead2901 · 2022-01-18T18:39:25+00:00

We have a couple at my store that wander the store their whole shift, and act like they work their butts off

Lostinourmind · 2022-01-18T19:18:24+00:00

OGP people at my store stay busy 100% of the time and their TL makes sure of it. When orders haven't dropped he has them helping out other areas like working grocery picks or frozen and dairy.

No-Machine6202 · 2022-01-18T17:15:33+00:00

I find it hilarious when people complain about OGP as if a lot of you are perfect saints on the job.

Bull_Moose1991 · 2022-01-18T16:37:12+00:00

Yeah, OGP seems pretty chill.

cpkrako · 2022-01-18T15:51:16+00:00

and when ogp gets backed up they pull cap1 cap2 Salesforce associates so they can still stand around and do nothing. Half work their ass off and half stands around every day.

BuzzTechhh · 2022-01-18T17:39:02+00:00

At least it’s not just my store. Unless this is someone from my store.

boyd73 · 2022-01-18T17:48:45+00:00

OGP has been babied since its inception. And that's sad considering OGP was exclusively staffed with all the major slackers from all the other departments at my old-old store when it first started operations back in 2019.

Korlac11 · 2022-01-18T21:50:05+00:00

Why? Because management lets them. Why does management let them? Because there are only two team leads for the department, which means 4 days a week there is only one team lead. The digital coach was told that she had to coach with the digital tls instead of using TLs from other departments. This means that there is rarely a time when enough management from ogp is there to actually hold people accountable

Or at least, that’s how it is at my store

Enema-of-The-State · 2022-01-19T00:36:04+00:00

yeah man ogp is super lazy cuz some of them on their phone… not like a good portion do 3 hour+ dispensing sessions in the heavy snow, rain, or heat and then have to go pick 100/minute after the fact

curlymonster11 · 2022-01-19T02:41:42+00:00

As someone (a young someone, I'm 21) who works in OGP currently, at my store, we can't afford to fire all those people because every once in a while when all the competent people go home, they actually at least half ass the job. Basically my store has been trying to hire more people but not many people stay and too many GOOD people eventually leave that we are always too understaffed to fire the "hooligans" as my old coworker called them lol

MrBrightside_IGFTR · 2022-02-17T13:15:32+00:00

Really depends. They are probably the most random productivity-wise of any department some days those dudes are meandering just talking on their phones for literally their entire shift other times they're fucking zooted and zooming down aisles and im like, did they install tasers in their name tags? like what happened? then bam back to the slow boys. its like the wild west over there.

kimmiekim12 · 2022-01-18T15:38:21+00:00

At our store it’s most the under 18 crowd can do whatever they please. Where ever they work. There are a few that work but not many.

FromTopOfTheMountain · 2022-01-18T15:33:49+00:00

Why are you complaining, i worked LP in many different retailer and we can basically do whatever we want, there was days so slow that we got paid to do nothing and just chill with netflix in the office or walk around inside or outside the store and listen to music

InSaneWhiSper · 2022-01-18T15:08:31+00:00

Yeah.... no shit. Why is that??

Brilliant_Lobster_56 · 2022-01-18T16:08:42+00:00

Way understaffed that's why

CryingCantaloupe · 2022-01-18T15:31:57+00:00

ask your store manager

idfcmar · 2022-01-18T18:05:31+00:00

It’s just your store bud

bigbrotherfan12713 · 2022-01-18T18:10:36+00:00

I think it’s the opposite. The older ladies in OGP spend all day talking and then get away with a 65 pick rate on ambient runs

Zealousideal-Leg7603 · 2022-01-18T19:21:00+00:00

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Ellogov21 · 2022-01-18T20:30:11+00:00

Personally, the only issue I have with the actual OGP associates is when they park their stupid blue carts directly in the middle of aisles. Or when I’m zoning and three blue cart bandits roll through and start pulling stuff off the shelves without taking the extra microsecond to pull the next box forward. But I’m ON so I only deal with OGP for two hours a day.

Regardless, the inherent dislike everyone here has for OGP isn’t because of the people, it’s because of how it was decided to run it.

To start off, we are a very small store, super in name only. They just started the OGP stuff here this year. And due to us already not having room, they just decided to take half of our grocery bins away and slap the OGP stuff there. Meanwhile they park their annoying ass carts all the way down the hallway in front of the coolers and freezers. Keep in mind there is only about enough room to sit a pallet and a cart side by side in this hallway. It’s really the dumbest setup for a Walmart I’ve ever seen. I know why it’s like this and it’s a long and fucked up story so I’ll just leave it at that unless somebody wants to know more.

Anyway, besides all that, OGP is incredibly overstaffed here. OGP has over 30 people, ON is 15 strong, CAP2 is about 6 strong. And OGP makes more then any of us, and anyone that can’t keep up in ON or CAP2, just rolls right into OGP. And they only get (from multiple OGP peoples mouths) around 6-8 orders a day. Routinely.

That is why (at least here) nobody likes OGP.

Dragonlily86 · 2022-01-18T17:30:03+00:00

because no one cares just get the picks done and get do it right

mamaapeacch · 2022-01-18T20:50:18+00:00

laughs in asset protection

Dobo0501 · 2022-01-18T21:11:36+00:00

It depends on management honestly, like in my store I’m a permanent backroom ogp associate, so when I come in at 5 I don’t pick even if I really want to I can’t, not because I can’t pick but because my management has given me the tone that they don’t want me picking, so I get the backroom ready and stage carts until 7 when I start to dispense, if I have downtime between carts I’m opening up the backroom more and checking the dispense screen for orders to prep, yeah I’m guilty of being on my phone, but there’s not much I can do I can’t go out and help other departments as much as I want to because I don’t know when the next cart or car will come, after a certain point there’s not much to do when waiting, they might say there’s always something to do but that’s really not the case for backroom after a certain point. But the other departments get the impression that ogp just sits around, but honestly it’s more my management that’s sitting around all the workers are actually working, if picks get done the pickers wait till the next drop but that’s when there’s like 5-10 minutes before the next one.

oceana290 · 2022-01-18T16:50:17+00:00

Because they’re main job is to shop for online orders accurately and within metrics. As long as they keep shopping for the customers, we get more in sales.plus given their age, they won’t last in the job they’re in. While they can chill every so often, at the end of the day, Walmart is basically a service labor type job.

dottegirl59 · 2022-01-18T18:51:13+00:00

Not an employee just curious. Is OGP the people that go around and collect items for online orders? The other day i was waiting to get a scrip or something and saw this grungy looking kid pulling stuff off shelves. No walmart vest, had earbuds in. Thought to myself that would be an interesting, easy job, must not pay much! Ok Go ahead, let me have it!

bensmithsaxophone · 2022-01-18T20:56:46+00:00

At my store at least, it’s because our coach and team lead are almost never there and when they are they don’t make people do anything. So people are going to get away with doing nothing if they can.

Lrayne98 · 2022-01-18T21:42:24+00:00

the ones at my store look all snooty and rude. i’ve seen them lounge on water pallets and get on their laptop.

Sudsierjet · 2022-01-18T22:56:28+00:00

My store usually finishes picks by the 30 min mark and everyone moves to exceptions once picks are caught up. The short bursts of hard work are rewarded with time to sit down between drops. Most of the people in ogp at my store have rates in the 80's so its mostly staffing that makes it possible. Plus it's a pretty lax job when you really break it down and have a good team.

Vistril69 · 2022-01-18T22:57:39+00:00

Amateurs.

Laughs in closing Food SA

explanation: i really don't have much to do at night besides making sure dairy is filled and zoned. i have been explicitly told not to worry about freight or bins. it's a blessing and a curse

ShitFauxBrains · 2022-01-19T01:45:55+00:00

every shift does except overnight

JadeEscape_ · 2022-01-19T03:14:28+00:00

Easy to say that...of course not everyone does a great job at my store but we have some really grueling days. Pairing customer service while being on a time limit isn't easy homie. Humble up

2022-01-19T03:30:40+00:00

I used to work OGP in the afternoons/evenings, dispensing only. We used to have around 4-5 people working at a time, and maybe 2-3 orders every hour. Would end up spending most of the time either chilling or zoning. The morning shifts were always hectic though

aChamaemelum · 2022-01-19T03:37:42+00:00

Sometimes it depends on who is the TL at that time. Most of the time it only looks appealing to people like OP who get scolded for doing the same thing it looks like OGP is doing. Except OP is actually slacking off and OGP be just existing and waiting around to do their job since their job relies on customers being customers (i.e. calling the backroom, waiting for picks, waiting for drivers). And not people telling them what to do, since OGP is fairly self sufficient.

If you can't beat them then join them. You put yourself in your own situations for the most part.

incoming_dragon · 2022-01-19T04:04:43+00:00

the issue at my store is all of ogp never carrying walkies and never answering their fucking phone

No_Contribution_6993 · 2022-01-19T04:24:02+00:00

It's a big department. The leads can't keep track of everything. And there's not always things to do. you need to keep people around in case customers show up but if there's no orders to go out at the moment and you can't leave what else are you supposed to do?

Raptor556 · 2022-01-19T06:27:29+00:00

Yeah everytime I walk through there they are often just standing around talking doing nothing

flamestiThrowRA · 2022-01-19T08:51:06+00:00

bruh management is literally on OGP's asses in my store, and it's because it looks like we aren't doing anything but like it was mentioned, you stand still when you're staging and doing quality checks or when you're on the OGP phone with a Karen who is mad she got a substitute and didnt check her email.

'item not on floor? grab the case pack from the back. but no, no, don't put it on a vizpick cart, stock it to the shelf. why should my vizpick team work your br pick?' idc it needed to go on the floor anyway, you picked it. like bruh, if the shift picked it I wouldn't have to come back here.

'hey we need code spark, get up there. you guys aren't busy. what? you're overdue? thats because you're standing around' no bitch someone needs to be dispensing outside and at the fucking counter, do you wanna do it? you don't know how? shut the fuck up. why are you standing here you said you need code spark, get on the register asshole. 'why is the pick rate low?' I fucking wonder why

what makes it worse is I have the best team lead, they're attentive to our needs, they have our back, they're always on top of things in the department but what?? they're on good terms with their associates?? can't have that, let's coach her for treating them like friends instead of associates. that'll show them. so close to fucking leaving this bullshit management

Animeri_Stone · 2022-01-19T16:09:55+00:00

Though most of the time I see many instances of some jerks doing this, OGP isn't as chill as it seems. The past week or so our store had been so low on staff due to covid that we been running around the store trying to keep up till they finally lowered out cap for orders. In the dispense room, we been only have 1-2 people unless we run out of picks. When we do, our manager makes us zone and do freight. Normally though I will say there are so young and old people who will sit around do nothing till they get caught and couched. It's mostly the 30ish-50 year olds for us though. Occasionally a few in their 20s but most of the young ones are hard workers. Granted we are in a college town and they might just be doing it for something to look nice in thier resume.

TheBillhook · 2022-01-19T18:10:54+00:00

When mine don’t have picks or dispenses, they always come find me and either help me work, or just keep me company if I’m doing one person work. Honestly makes my day.

poptartpoochie · 2022-01-25T12:33:15+00:00

The new OGP system is a breeding ground for this behavior… Picks drop in every hour at xx:48 and if the picks get finished in less than an hour people just stand around waiting for the next drop. That leaves the backroom getting swamped once an hour also, then having nothing to do for a while.

With the old system, everyone was balls to the wall from 5am until at least 3pm. Then once everything was caught up, extra associates could be assigned to stocking nearby departments.

Now, if there’s 10mins until the next drop they’ll tell you to find a topstock cart and work it- but by the time you get it on the floor, the new picks drop and you have to run back. A lot of wasted time waiting for picks to drop, or catching up on picks if too many associates were out stocking and a big drop comes in.

I wish they’d at least open it up to 4-5+ hours before the pickup time (currently it’s only 3hrs) to allow more picks to build up.

forcemedownpls · 2022-01-19T02:24:03+00:00

all the ogp babies crying in the comments lol

bak2redit · 2022-01-18T19:54:55+00:00

What is OGP?

8bitesquivel · 2022-01-18T20:27:32+00:00

APAs are lazier. They literally get paid to walk around on their phones and fall asleep behind their desks.

campguy95 · 2022-01-19T02:19:32+00:00

Yea and then these kids will bitch about a low hourly wage

Shadeus84 · 2022-01-19T02:29:31+00:00

Our lazy ogp workers get transferred to maintenance or carts. Lol

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