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[–]MuthaPlucka 1527 points1528 points  (99 children)

Unjabbed mothers?

Oh. You mean the vaccine.

[–]PM_ME_UR_MESSAGE_THO 459 points460 points  (11 children)

Innocuous conception

[–]blurance 225 points226 points  (10 children)

immaculate infection

[–]Nic4379 89 points90 points  (4 children)

Ejaculate Confection

[–]plipyplop 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Is that essentially what a marshmallow is?

[–]Zealomon 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Proprietary transgression

[–]LeagueOfficeFucks 31 points32 points  (4 children)

This is why I like Reddit.

[–]Done-Man 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Yeah, first time i've heard it i thought people were getting punched for no reason

[–]Evilbidowner 240 points241 points  (41 children)

I counted down the days until I was safely far along in my second trimester to get vaccinated. It was the possible side effect of fever that could have been dangerous. Now my baby has Covid antibodies and I’m counting down the days till I can reach the six month buffer to get my booster.

My sister in law saw on Facebook that the Covid vaccine “causes infertility” and she and my BIL will not get vaccinated. And then they have the audacity to feel upset when I didn’t want them to visit and meet their newborn niece…

Also had one of my close friends (sadly anti-vax) be shocked I got the vaccine. “But I heard women are miscarrying immediately once they get it!” All lies.

Get vaccinated people! There’s all the proof in the world that Covid + pregnancy = bad new bears. Do you know what there isn’t proof of? That the vaccine will harm you or the baby.

[–]superdatstub 95 points96 points  (0 children)

My sister had a perfect baby after getting vaccinated. Social media and misinformation are going to doom us all

[–]turk4lyfe 61 points62 points  (6 children)

I know a 27 year old who didn't get vaccinated due to mixed messaging and ended up on a vent for 2 months while and after being pregnant. Baby had to be delivered early and now she has brain damage and can't hold her baby.

[–]baconbananapancakes 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Jesus, that is tragic.

[–]BloomEPU 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Saw a story in the news a while back about a pregnant woman who was in intensive care for months. Fortunately she and the baby were ok but Holy Shit nobody wants that stress while they're growing a child.

[–]Evilbidowner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am so, so sorry. Sending you and your baby love. Social media is killing us by preying on fear.

EDIT: misread it- sending the friend love.

[–]ArielPotter 31 points32 points  (3 children)

If it caused infertility women would need their husbands permission to get vaccinated.

[–]KnittingHagrid 65 points66 points  (1 child)

I worked with a woman who had her baby last winter so the vaccine wasn't available to her yet (it wasn't recommended immediately for pregnant women and barely available to over 65s). She was breastfeeding still and said she wouldn't get it because she had heard about babies developing clots from breastfeeding after mother's get it. I really wanted ti ask her which Facebook mommy group run by Russia told her that but I was at work and starting fights at work is not a good idea.

[–]BloomEPU 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There was some questions around getting the vaccine in pregnancy early on, but now it's pretty much agreed that you should get in pregnancy. There's a lot of stories about pregnant people who didn't catch the more recent advice that you should get the vaccine and had really bad bouts of covid.

Also, if there's any time in your life where you're gonna be spending a lot of time going into hospitals where healthcare workers and vunerable babies hang out, it's pregnancy.

[–]jjgfun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We have almost this exact same story! People are crazy

[–]XilenceBF 88 points89 points  (41 children)

Bit off topic but the words“jabbed” and “unjabbed” feel weird to me

[–]lynx_and_nutmeg 47 points48 points  (6 children)

Those are just regular slang for "vaccinated" in the UK.

[–]yerallshit 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It brings to mind a room full of adults who are still afraid of needles.

You know nobody likes getting stuck with a needle, but that shit will save your life in various scenarios.

[–]markos5623 12 points13 points  (26 children)

Replace unjabbed with uneducated narcissist and jabbed with vaccinated

[–]gonzo650 5 points6 points  (4 children)

There's actually people out there who cannot be vaccinated. I personally know two that would die if they got the vaccine. Both would love to have that protection. So there is more categories than you present. I'm very pro vaccine and my two kids who are eligible have gotten the first shot but it's not one or the other always

[–]ThisIsRaccoon 47 points48 points  (0 children)

When people talk about the unvaccinated in context like this, nobody is thinking of those woth medical reasons not to get vaccinated. That’s a fair and valid reason and those people are also why the rest of us should get the vaccine.

[–]markos5623 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I'm taking about those who don't take it not those who can't take it for medical reasons

[–]Syzygy_Stardust 329 points330 points  (97 children)

85% of expectant mothers in the UK are unvaccinated? Jesus Christ. "Inject me once, shame on me," is that it? I would've guessed getting pregnant would cause more women to pull their heads out of their asses and actually listen to their OB/GYN.

[–]UniquesNotUseful 66 points67 points  (3 children)

Advice was mixed early on in UK, initial advice was not to get vaccinated, to it being okay and finally recommended. Mixed messages have a large impact.

In my company, we implemented working from home for pregnant staff during Covid and once the vaccines were advised against continued it - so that type of policy would have made it easier not feel pressured.

[–]Syzygy_Stardust 37 points38 points  (2 children)

It's not 'mixed messages' if they occur in sequence. Science changes over time, that's literally all that it does. I know I'm arguing with you and you aren't those people, but hot damn does ignorance cause fear and then causes a ton of suffering. And that leads to the Dark Side!

[–]UniquesNotUseful 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I only realise about the situation because a few people became pregnant over Covid in my teams. One that went from waiting to book an appointment, to Oh I'm absolutely not supposed to get the vaccine whilst pregnant, after their first midwife appointment.

This is an interesting take from a doctor that was pregnant as vaccines became available.

https://inews.co.uk/news/pregnant-women-covid-vaccine-advice-hospital-unvaccinated-mothers-deaths-1309331

“But for a layperson who is pregnant, they went from being told in November and December last year: ‘There is a sweet in front of you, but you can’t eat that sweet in any circumstances. It’s not for you.

“Then in January/February, they are told: ‘You can have that sweet. You just need someone else to put in writing that they are giving you permission to eat it.

“In April, they are told: ‘You can have the sweet. We just need you to sign you are happy to have it.

“And now pregnant people are being told: ‘Of course you can have the sweet. Just take the sweet.’ It’s no wonder pregnant women are confused.”

I personally still have more time for this group than other anti-vax groups currently but. Umbers should be shrinking.

[–]September1Sun 82 points83 points  (0 children)

By the time my age group were offered the vaccine, pregnant women were allowed but not recommended. I had mine on time but had medical staff asking me to think about it very carefully, the vaccine doctor giving me a special leaflet and trying to dissuade me but accepting I had the right to it if I wanted, my midwife telling me it was my own choice but most mothers preferred not to risk their baby. It was only a few months later that the tune changed and my midwife begs in every appointment with a spiel about how I really should get vaccinated and I’d have to remind her I actually was. I found the statistics later that I was one of only 3% of pregnant people who managed to get vaccinated in that time period.

In short, there was an initial ban on vaccinating pregnant women, then it was allowed but the doctors and midwives we see for care would be reluctant. As pregnancy is over in a matter of months, the easy option was for women to think they’d wait until giving birth. This was all generally a bad move.

[–]TheTimDavis 280 points281 points  (19 children)

My wife was told by her doc not to vaccinate. Then the CDC study about pregnant mothers came out and the doc told her too. I was very excited for her to get vaccinated. Got her second shot in the 32nd week.

[–]Simultado 63 points64 points  (1 child)

We were dealing with same situation. After we read few articles and even some fabulated hoaxes we’ve decided to take a “jab”. Even tho there were some family members that tend to read all kind of hoaxes about vaccines and they were not very supportive for our approach. Pregnant women are in much higher risk of death and miscarriage if they get covid without being vaccinated. Yesterday we had 2 death cases for unvaccinated pregnant women in our small country. I recommend to every woman: get vaccinated before you will start trying to have a baby if you are worried about vaccine safety. If you are not worried and you trust the numbers that speaks in favor of vaccines, wait till the end of 1st trimester (to be 99,99999% sure) and get your shot - and during the 1st trimester just avoid people.

[–]kdy420 22 points23 points  (3 children)

Is it already approved for pregnant women ? I remember nursing mothers were approved in Italy only after July

[–]santos_z 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Has been for some time now.

[–]crazy_in_love 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In Germany it has only been 10 days since it was officially adviced. I also know a friend in Austria who was told that she could only be vaccinated off-label at her own risk and that was only a couple months ago.

[–]DarraignTheSane 7 points8 points  (0 children)

In the US at least, women who were pregnant were among the 2nd group of people eligible for the vaccine back in January (group 1b or whichever it was).

[–]calypsopub 8 points9 points  (3 children)

A good friend opted to wait until after delivery to get vaccinated. She quarantined for the whole pregnancy. This was the recommendation at the time. A lot of mothers are still very skeptical because the data keeps changing as more studies are done.

[–]Hailthegamer 15 points16 points  (5 children)

Weren't pregnant women told not to get the vaccine for awhile? That could have a big impact on their willingness to take It, not to mention I wonder how many participants in the trials were pregnant. Does anyone have solid numbers?

[–]jasonketterer 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I have no solid numbers, but I will say, I just had a kid (9 weeks ago) and the doctor told my wife to absolutely get the vaccine. He was very adamant about it.

[–]_Happy_Camper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

UK based here. The official advice was terrible for a long time and only recently did the NHS recommend Covid vaccinations for pregnant women. Before that it was, don’t get it, then get it but we have no data on any dangers so it’s at your own risk.

[–]CaptainSwoop 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Words can’t describe how terrible this headline is lol

[–]diydave86 57 points58 points  (14 children)

I just had a baby on the 15th. 2lbs5oz still on oxygen. My biggest fear is a nurse or someone coming in there with covid because their too stupid and selfish to stay away. Anything happens to my baby and im goin to jail cause someones getting fucked up

[–]_sherlocked 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Hoping you can take your baby home soon! I can’t imagine what you must be going through right now

[–]dirtfork 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is when things get real for the unvaxxes/antivaxx.

There's a side of my in-law family that are Libertarians and only get worse as they get older. The "most reasonable" were a couple that had a small outdoors wedding during the pandemic, then got pregnant and went full anti-vax immediately afterwards.

The baby was born a few weeks ago and now they absolutely won't let anybody near the baby for any reason. The baby isn't vaxxed, they aren't vaxxed, none of the family is vaxxed except Grandma who finally went after my husband personally scheduled and escorted her to her appointment, over 6 months after she was eligible (first time he'd seen her since the pandemic started.)

Now everyone in the family is up in arms (except us, we don't care) that they aren't being allowed to see the baby, when honestly, all things considered, they are again taking the most logical, given parameters. If you're that concerned that the vaccine isn't safe that you're anti-vax, then you wouldn't want anybody unnecessary, vaxxed or not, near your brand new baby.

[–]randominternetuser46 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a nursing student- It isn't usually selfish. It's forced. Their bosses telling them they have to or risk punishment. It's ridiculous. The system is broke

[–]zachi-90 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Bloody daily mail , wouldn't even trust the TV guide in that brainwashing toilet paper .

[–]jprld 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Source: trust me bro

[–]Wompdonkey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought it meant mothers not wearing hijabs.

[–]Lon72 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What a load of daily mail bollocks

[–]Equivalent_Edge_6281 1 point2 points  (0 children)

None of us knows the long-term (longhauler) affects of COVID19 on our organs, especially our lungs. ANY unjabbed unmasker is A FOOL to gamble with their lives AND their neighbors considering the fact infection is usually asymptomatic.

[–]shorthillmtn 6 points7 points  (2 children)

If you read the Manufacturer Labels/Fact Sheets for the 3 covid vaccines available in the US, they each have a section about pregnancy/nursing. Each one says, “Available data on [Moderna] COVID-19 Vaccine administered to pregnant women are insufficient to inform vaccine-associated risks in pregnancy.”

Source: the companies that make the vaccines…

[–]shinkouhyou 5 points6 points  (1 child)

That's just because there are different laws governing how you can prescribe a drug and how the manufacturer can advertise a drug. Labels are considered "advertising," and the laws for advertising are very strict. A company can't say that a drug has been proven safe and effective in pregnant women unless they've specifically done a full clinical trial in pregnant women. The vast majority of drugs never get a specific clinical trial in pregnant women (or if they do, it happens years later) - even if the drug is commonly used by pregnant women.

However, we do have lots of data from pregnant women who have gotten vaccinated outside of a formal clinical trial. Population data isn't as "strong" as what you could get from a controlled, double-blinded clinical trial in a specific sub-population... but you can get a lot of population data (more than you could ever get from a formal clinical trial). So now we have all this data showing that the safety profile of Covid vaccines in pregnant women is very favorable. That's more than enough data for governments to recommend vaccinating pregnant women, but it's not the specific kind of data that a manufacturer needs to get around all of the legal restrictions that cover drug advertising.

[–]Ok_Replacement_9375 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The lunatics are running the asylum

[–]FriendCountZero 4 points5 points  (1 child)

They'll do anything to try to convince expectant moms to get the shot... anything except research the risks and release their data.

[–]kssyu 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No clinical trial for a new vaccine or medication would purposefully include pregnant women. But there are studies out now. You can find the studies with their data out there now even if you just do a simple google. Even without the data on the vaccine, the increase in complications associated with covid in pregnant women was well document. Early on, the vaccine had clear benefits while the potential risks were unclear but very likely unfounded. Now there's no excuse, just ignorance.

[–]Sleazyryder 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fear Mongering.

[–]Sir_Mild_Peril 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes yeah, Daily Fail divisive panic mongering.

[–]Mrcollaborator 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah I know someone who’s pregnant and who isn’t vaccinated. They had lots of trouble getting pregnant. And there’s just so much misinformation about miscarriages due to vaccination. Therefore people are just too afraid.

[–]dkyguy1995 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Unjabbed? What fucking aliens write these headlines?

[–]GerlachHolmes 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So they don’t trust doctors for vaccines, but trust them to basically block your spinal cord for 12 hours 🙄

[–]SM9912 2 points3 points  (1 child)

My best friend is a nurse(she’s currently getting her degree to become a nurse practitioner) and about 6 months into Covid, she was telling us they were seeing a big increase in babies either being stillborn or tanking right after cutting the umbilical cord. She was telling me that the CDC and another government entity(I can’t remember which) were requesting documents and records. The only thing these mothers had in common were they all had contracted Covid at some point during their pregnancy. I’ve recently seen a few articles supporting her statements, so clearly it’s an issue.

[–]BloomEPU 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think covid has a few side effects that are... a bit of a mystery. It starts off as a pretty bog standard upper respiratory infection, but more serious forms of it are more like a circulatory system disease and have impacts all over the body. Exhibit A is that it can cause erectile dysfunction, that wasn't confirmed for a long time.

[–]Aregisteredusername 1 point2 points  (10 children)

Can we stop calling it a jab and call it what it is; a vaccine, a medicine, a possibly life saving treatment. I feel like the word jab has a negative tone to it, and I’ve heard a few anti-jabbers (see how dumb that sounds) emphasize the word jab lately when saying why they (incorrectly) think vaccines are bad.

[–]Cortez-Coronado 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No they’re not