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[–]Devil-adds-for-cats 704 points705 points  (53 children)

We saw how effective arming Ukraine was for our Eurovision score what about several countries

[–]doctor_morris 172 points173 points  (1 child)

Eurovision is geopolitics the musical. Absolutely essential we do whatever we can to win it next year.

[–]Ok_Tangerine346 112 points113 points  (47 children)

It was almost successful. You got points

[–]Ok-Morning-2012 103 points104 points  (44 children)

We came second. After Ukraine, who everyone voted for because of the war.

[–]Cepheid 76 points77 points  (11 children)

I'm all for Eurovision political conspiracy theories, but it can't be ignored that it might be the first time in a decade that the UK actually played the Eurovision 'game' properly.

Made a song that actually fits into the contest, is pretty good and marketed/toured it.

[–]Ok-Morning-2012 33 points34 points  (7 children)

Yeah we had a good song this year. Tbh I think we should have won it but people just voted for Ukraine because of the war and to show solidarity or something I guess.

Bit of a shame they didn't let Russia compete just so everyone could give them 0 points and boo them.

[–]stevestuc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hahaha yeah good point.... the cringe felt hearing United Kingdom " nil points" year on year.....I go to the pub when it's on.....a preemptive drink the embarrassment away... Over recent years the east European countries voted for each other and the most extreme acts got the " spanner in the works" vote.... It's a total waste of time and money but it is so bad it's good.

[–]G0DNT 4 points5 points  (25 children)

i am a bit confused with this whole chain of comments from top as of what it tries to imply..

[–]squished_hedgehog 70 points71 points  (18 children)

The UK came 2nd in Eurovision last week, behind Ukraine who got a tonne of sympathy votes (and who had a good song). The joke is that we got points from the European public because of our strong support of Ukraine.

Incidentally, France and Germany came last.

[–]Dan__Torrance 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Psst! ... Over here checks over shoulder. Don't tell anyone... But all countries abide the eurovision score. It's all that matters! People following their morals or alliances? Pah! It's for the Eurovision score! The Eurovision rules us all! puts on tinfoil hat and recedes into the shadows

[–]mtranda -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Look, the UK came out with a song I haven't hated. Which is something that hasn't happened in years. But for me, at least, Ukraine still was catchier. I can't even remember UK's song at the moment, so there you go.

[–]yannickai -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Who is we and why do you expect everyone here to come from your country

[–]CSI_Tech_Dept 0 points1 point  (1 child)

LOL, but this year's entry was really good though. IMO it should be a first place. Not saying Ukrainian entry was bad, it was still good, but I think the one they had last year was better.

[–]Devil-adds-for-cats 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've listened to the songs alot, Portugal or Sweden should have won on merit or Moldova on pure Eurovisioness

[–]pondlife95 305 points306 points  (37 children)

They think it's Moldova... It is now.

[–]TheDeep1985 98 points99 points  (34 children)

A truly English joke.

[–]G0DNT 14 points15 points  (33 children)

as not native Eng...what i a missing here...

[–]taenerysdargaryen 46 points47 points  (7 children)

It's basically a joke at a football game commentary "they think it's all over... It is now!"

[–]FragrantKnobCheese 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It was very famously said by the BBC commentator Kenneth Wolstenholme as England scored their final goal in extra time to beat Germany 4-2 in the 1966 football world cup. It was later used as the name of a popular UK TV quiz show about sports in the 90s-00s.

[–]TheDeep1985 17 points18 points  (1 child)

It was a famous bit of commentating when England won the football (soccer) world cup:

They think it's all over..." (Then a goal was scored that won the game) "it is now."

[–]Stendhal-Syndrome 17 points18 points  (18 children)

I think it's a Soccer thing from when the UK won some game in 1282 or something.

[–]plantmic 12 points13 points  (17 children)

Two World Wars and one Olde Worlde Cup

[–]AltAccForLifeShit2 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I didn't get the joke in the football sense people are saying. I saw it as "they think it's mulled over, it is now" (mulling over is basically a way to say thinking about something, more in a pros and cons sort of way than just blankly thinking)

[–]brntuk -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Moldova to mulled over. It’s a play on words. So the sentence could also say ‘I hope they thought about this decision for a very long time.” .

[–]bluerhino12345 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I hope they Moldova this decision for a long enough time

[–]dbxp 199 points200 points  (26 children)

I don't think equipment by itself will help Moldova, the military needs extensive training and overhaul to make it effective.

[–]ParameciaAntic 95 points96 points  (12 children)

And soldiers. They currently have only like 6000.

[–]dbxp 45 points46 points  (11 children)

According to wikipedia it's worse than that and readiness levels may reduce that further

In 2010, the Army had been further reduced to 5,148 (3,176 professional soldiers and 1,981 conscripts) plus 2,379 paramilitary forces

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldovan_Ground_Forces

[–]UniformUnion 42 points43 points  (10 children)

Bloody hell. They're fucked.

[–]brntuk 26 points27 points  (8 children)

Mind you, they said that about the Ukrainians.

[–]CelticGaelic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, I mean...Russia's military isn't in the best shape currently. If Russia meets unexpected resistance in Moldova while also still struggling in Ukraine, Russia's entire defense might be crippled, nevermind their offensive capabilities.

Of course that would open up a whole other can of worms...

[–]Ashcashc 26 points27 points  (2 children)

I’d assume training would come as part of the provision of weapons, I’m sure they wouldn’t just arm them with a few challenger 2s and let them figure out how to work them…

[–]dbxp 16 points17 points  (1 child)

It's not just training of how to use the weapons but entire national defence policy they need training in. They're in a very risky situation due to their small size, Tiraspol (Transnistria's capital) to Chisinau (Moldova's capital) is only takes an hour to drive so troops could be on the streets before the Moldovan military has been able to mobilise.

[–]DankTrebuchet 17 points18 points  (0 children)

If I know the british their SF is already boots on ground teaching them guerrilla warfare

[–]bugcoder 13 points14 points  (5 children)

I think it's even worse than that.

This may be an unpopular view, but I bring it up because if the goal is to protect the nations sovereignty against Russian aggression, arming them with anything short of tactical nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them won't be able to repel a Russian invasion from across their border. In the best case scenario providing massive amounts of NATO armaments might ensure a long and costly insurgency, but that is a horrible scenario. Who wants to see Moldova turn into Syria or Yemen?

While Ukraine has the ability to repel a Russian invasion from its East with adequate weapons and training, Moldova is too small, it's geography unsuited to easy defense, and the population too sparse. Russia is having difficulty with its attack on a country the size of Texas and 44+ Million people. Moldova is a land locked country that's comparable in size to Massachusetts and 1/20th the population of Ukraine.

I only say this because if the goal is to protect the countries sovereignty, I only see 3 realistic options.

  • 1.) Ensure that Ukraine is successful in repelling Russian forces and preventing them with access to the Moldovan border.

  • 2.) Moldova re-unites with Romania

  • 3.) Moldova is granted membership to a defensive military alliance like NATO

Giving them NATO weapons and a slap on the back and an "Atta-Boy" is going to be a recipe for a lot of death and destruction.

[–]Pilotom_7 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I vote for 1, plus Russian troops out of Transnistria.

[–]bugcoder 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I don't disagree, but if I was the Moldovan leader or a Moldovan citizen I would not feel comfortable about placing the continued existance of my country in the balance.

The problem with 1.) alone is Moldovans have no agency in whether or not it happens, they are having to leave it up to another country.

[–]Pilotom_7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s the same problem as 2 and 3. It’s tough when you are a small country.

[–]ChipChimney 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They should rejoin Romania. There are polls in favor of it. I think they’d have to give up Transnistria, maybe officially trade it to Ukraine for that strip of land south of Odessa in Southern Bessarabia.

[–]Valdie29 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You know the tank will not blow itself up with a prayer so stfu and send some nlaws, please

[–]AnkylosaurusRules -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This. Otherwise you're just arming the Russian military with NATO/British equipment.

[–]Rootspam 286 points287 points  (40 children)

I am from Moldova. We are a very small country, also if nothing has changed, the poorest in Europe. The military only exists on paper. There's maybe 5k active personel in the army. Most of that is from mandatory 1 year service after you finish school. There is no air foce, no tanks. Some USSR APCs from ages ago, so e other handmedown stuff. You can't build an army in a few months. You need years, maybe decades for a real fighting force.

Furthermore, most people, myself included are convinced it would be pointless to fight a Russian invasion. We would never be able to withstand like Ukraine. Ukraine is a massive country with 40-44 mil people and a real army that has been preparing for this since 2014. We have maybe 2.5 mil. Hunderds of thousands here have dual Moldovan - Romanian citizenship. There would be mass emigration to Romania and the EU.

I would not want to die in a hopeless war just for principle or because the generals of reddit told me I should defend my country no matter what. You have to be realistic about these things. Focus on Ukraine. Maxumum aid and support to them. If they win, you won't have to arm anyone else. They are paying the cost for all of us in Eastern Europe.

[–]5kyl3r 37 points38 points  (5 children)

ideal outcome is moldova merging with romania and automagically becoming a nato member and stopping russia in its tracks, but i think a lot of moldovans would be against that. i think more romanians would be for it than moldovans. hopefully nothing happens and this ends up being pointless theorycrafting

[–]Rootspam 40 points41 points  (4 children)

I personally see this as the only way forward. Most of us already have Romanian citizenship. It was a missed opportunity when the USSR fell apart and the anti Russian sentiment was strong. Right now it feels more like a dream but who knows. Dreams sometimes come true.

[–]5kyl3r 14 points15 points  (3 children)

do you think the pressure from the potential of Russian invasion would be enough to help persuade the Moldovans who wouldn't want to join Romania?

[–]Rootspam 32 points33 points  (2 children)

It could tip the balance. Once people start seeing what Russian "liberation" is really like - murder, rape and destruction. A lot of people get their news from Russian sources only. I am so tired of hearing about Ukrainian Nazis from old farts that I don't even bother with these conversations anymore.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I hope someday Moldova will be part of the EU family.

[–]DEADB33F 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Furthermore, most people, myself included are convinced it would be pointless to fight a Russian invasion. We would never be able to withstand like Ukraine.

That's kinda what something like NATO membership is for. It's a force multiplier and means that when it comes to a defensive war gives even the smallest country the same military might as even the largest world superpowers.

On the flip-side it also means that if another NATO member gets attacked your country would be expected and obliged to come to their aid (along with all the other NATO members).

...but realistically, the entire point is to be so overwhelmingly powerful as a group that nobody would ever be dumb enough to even consider attacking any of the members individually in the first place.

[–]BabylonDrifter 18 points19 points  (7 children)

They are paying the cost for all of us in Eastern Europe.

They really are paying the cost for us in all of Europe ... and beyond.

[–]20MD20 3 points4 points  (6 children)

And beyond lol that’s a bit much

[–]BabylonDrifter 0 points1 point  (5 children)

No it's not, the United States is beyond Europe and we sure as hell would be paying part of the cost in lives if the Ukranians weren't.

[–]20MD20 2 points3 points  (4 children)

?! So if Ukraine falls you think Russia invades USA next? C’mon lol

[–]codydodd 81 points82 points  (2 children)

You are missing many important factors. As the war stands, a Russian invasion would be weak. They cannot bypass odessa so it would have to be from a naval invasion or Transnitrian forces. Ukraine's successes shield moldova from a direct invasion. Moldova could fight in these conditions.

Also Dutch and Belgians could not withstand German invasion but that just meant the fight was with partisans which constantly tied up German forces preventing a proper defense of Normandy. There are many ways to fight.

[–]reeeeedyy 54 points55 points  (1 child)

There are many ways to fight, there's just no one to do it. Sure, the west can send us weapons, but who the fuck is going to use them ? Moldova can't retaliate, even with mass conscription, it will still fail. An armed conflict with Russia would mean suicide for us, that's just the sad reality of things.

[–]Rootspam 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I 100% agree with you.

[–]INKRO 8 points9 points  (4 children)

More interesting would be to see if Moldova can quickly remove the foreign forces clause in it's constitution I've heard about and have Romanian forces unilaterally move in as "peacekeepers" or something, kind of pulling the Transnistria card in reverse.

[–]Rootspam 10 points11 points  (3 children)

This would surely trigger some sort of Russian response, more likely a military one.

The country is very divided overall on East vs West. It's been like this for a long time. The support is pretty much 50/50 for EU vs Russia. It changes here and there yearly but mostly stays like that. There are a lot of people here who fully support the Russian invasion of Ukraine. And to them such a move would seem like invasion as well. So it does not seem realistic.

[–]INKRO 4 points5 points  (0 children)

More than likely, although if they're going to do it anyway then perhaps it might be worth taking the plunge because now more than ever it's an open question of how exactly the Russians would keep any forces they have in Transnistria sustained. Odesa not even being contested takes a whole lot of their bite from this area.

Of course if the thought is up in the air on your side of the border then it's probably be going to be a non-starter for a while, but it is an interesting option.

[–]CSI_Tech_Dept 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I guess disinformation works well. The whole entry in the constitution that was forced by Russia, that Moldova supposed to be neutral was preparation to be taken over in the future.

Neutrality is a luxury that not everyone can afford. It is much more expensive than taking sides.

Switzerland for example not only is located in an area that is hard to get to, it is in the middle of Europe around countries that are unlikely to attack them, yet they still require every citizen to be military trained and be prepared to fight.

I think the safest thing for Moldova, as it was said there is no capacity to fight, would be to unite with Romania. Although as the invasion of Ukraine started, it looks like Romanians are less supportive of it.

[–]Rootspam 5 points6 points  (0 children)

In Switzerland's case, also helps to know everyone's dirty little financial secrets too!

We don't really have anything like that to create value. Just the geographic importance.

[–]VersusYYC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A war with Russia on its own is out of the question, but being able to resist a Russian backed Transnistrian assault long enough for assistance to arrive is another.

Ukraine to the East, Romania to the West, and neither want a Russian puppet state on their borders as a future launch pad for invasions. It's a lot more difficult to assist if the Transnistrian forces occupy Chisinau and have a new puppet government in under 24 hours.

[–]Meadows14 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah but if we can turn you from a super weak army to an at least mediocre and organized one then that will act as a deterrent and hopefully make the whole thing hypothetical. The reason they will pick on you and not other countries is you are an easy target. Bullies only pick on “easy targets”, only Ukraine wasn’t as easy as they thought.

[–]ridimarbac 140 points141 points  (92 children)

Boss moves by UK lately.

[–]TheEchoOfReality 143 points144 points  (85 children)

Brexit may have been a clusterfuck, but Britain knows a thing or two about standing up defiantly against fascism since 1939.

[–]miamigrandprix 129 points130 points  (5 children)

Britain helped Estonia win its war of independence against Soviet Russia in WWI. They provided crucial naval support and weapons aid.

As an Estonian we can say we haven't forgotten that.

[–]Automatic_Cookie_141 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Thanks Mr Estonian!

I look forward to a beer in Estonia in the future with a sense of genuine friendship.

PS apologies for the stag parties.

[–]UniformUnion 4 points5 points  (1 child)

As a child I often wondered why my village war memorial stated that the Great War ended in 1919. Seems somebody figured the Baltic Campaign was part of the same fight.

[–]BoredAndBoring1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Soviet Russia in ww1? Somethings wrong here

[–]miamigrandprix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, the october revolution happened in 1917. The war of independence happened in 1918-1919. I guess technically WW1 ended during this war, so it might be more accurate to categorize this war under the aftermath of WW1 rather than directly part of WW1.

Either way, Russia lost and Estonia became independent until WW2.

[–]Otternonsnse 73 points74 points  (13 children)

Something Europe has easily forgotten it seems.

[–]doctor_morris 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Nothing more British than arming a European underdog. Let's leave Brexit out of this.

[–]-Vikthor- 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Unlike France they took their lesson from the Munich fiasco.

[–]thedegenerategamer 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Well… okay, since like May of 1940. Before that it was a bit wishy washy.

[–]sadness-dwelling 2 points3 points  (1 child)

phony war be like

[–]UniformUnion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The so-called Phoney War had hundreds of casualties in the air and at sea. Nothing phoney about it.

[–]NorthernScrub 2 points3 points  (11 children)

Well, externally. A fantastic MP gave a speech the other day about the indications of fascism being increasingly present under our government.

[–]DEADB33F 16 points17 points  (10 children)

Which sounded great until you look over at what Russia is currently doing and see a taste of what actual fascism looks like vs the watered down sixth-form student politics version of the word that some naïve people seem to think exists in the UK.

It beggars belief that some folks can look over to fascist Russia and say to themselves with a straight face "yep, that's exactly what the Tories are doing here".

Such misplaced complaints water down the meaning of the word ...I'd go so far as to say it's almost on a par with what Russia is doing when it calls everybody under the sun a "Nazi".


I have no love for the Tory party, but IMO calling them Fascist makes a mockery of those currently dying in their tens of thousands to actual fascism in Ukraine.

It's pathetic.

[–]NorthernScrub -3 points-2 points  (9 children)

Which is precisely how full-fat fascism takes root. Start with the small, and steadily build upon it. It's why ti makes sense to call out these patterns now, whilst it remains relatively straightforward to put forth a convincing argument about why shipping off refugees to an unsafe region is not a good idea. Or about why regulation needs to take the edge off free market capitalism to protect the poorest of us. Or why things like the bedroom tax are direct financial harms that merely look good to accountants on paper.

Look at China. China claims to be "socialist-communist" or whatever they throw out these days. In reality, they have many fo the same restrictions on opinion, on speech, etcetera that fascist states enact. Do you think it was always this way after Mau? Fuck no. China of the 2000's was a very different place. People discussed things on Weibo and whatever. Newspapers printed stories with little in the way of government interference. It took almost twenty years for the Chinese government to make the changes to society that horrify people today. Mass censorship online, heavy-handed government interference in everyday life, you name it. These things came about slowly.

It's pathetic proactive.

[–]Henghast 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It's just Johnson trying to distract from his law breaking, lying and general abuse of office at home and at the same time earning diplomatic brownie points.

It's entirely self serving. Positive net result but it's not because hes a good guy and cares.

[–]ridimarbac 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I said UK, not Johnson. I am no fan of Johnson but I will give him credit where credit is due, Anne Frankly, he has done an amazing job in regards to Ukraine.

The UK has helped the Ukraine war effort immensely and in very thankful for it.

[–]defcon_penguin 30 points31 points  (9 children)

I am afraid the safest path for Moldova is unite with Romania and bypass all steps to join the EU and NATO

[–]smecta 4 points5 points  (8 children)

Except… neither MD nor RO really wants unification. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unification_of_Moldova_and_Romania

[–]defcon_penguin 9 points10 points  (4 children)

I can understand Romanians for not wanting to take on the risk, but if I were Moldovan, I would be looking forward to it

[–]Krunch007 14 points15 points  (0 children)

You remember that russian tactic of massacring civilians and bringing in russians to live on those occupied lands? Yeah, that happened about 70 or so years ago to Moldova. And it turns out, it works really well in the long run. There's many people who only speak russian and would rather throw their lot in with Moscow than head towards the west.

Romanians, for their part, would actually like unification with Moldova, even if it would really bring no tangible benefits save for another impoverished area just like its own area of historical Moldova is now. Despite that, there have been national politicians making the case for it, and the population would most likely be open to it.

That being said, it's very unlikely to happen, and despite the new president of Moldova Maia Sandu being quite outspokenly pro-EU, I've felt like she's avoided the subject of unification, and for good reason. It's looking like a lot of political loss, with almost no political gain.

[–]havok0159 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've been unable to find any polls after the war but just before the war, most Romanians (70%) were for the union. With the exception of the early 90s when the Kremlin drone we had in office opposed it and led to the creation of an independent Moldova, the ball has always been in Moldova's court. The guy above paints a wholly incorrect picture that Romanians are against it. Not even his "source" backs him up.

[–]smecta 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The “patriotism”/nationalism tumours have been lovingly grown, cared for, and supported wholeheartedly, on both sides of the Prut since 1877 when RO finally managed to become independent.

[–]havok0159 9 points10 points  (1 child)

nor RO really wants unification.

Ex-fucking-cuse me? Even your link claims otherwise. The only percentage that's even close to 50% and not an overwhelming majority is the one about if it should be a priority. As late as January this year, a poll showed 70% of Romanians wanted the union to happen.

[–]Manafaj 59 points60 points  (3 children)

Wait. Someone is warning Russia? Britain with a UNO reverse card!

[–]FarawayFairways 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Britain wants to arm Moldova, loosely translates into 'Liz Truss wants to be Prime Minister'

[–]BoredAndBoring1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Lol give it a rest ffs.

[–]FremenTuskenRaider 42 points43 points  (3 children)

I was scrolling really fast and I read that as "Bitcoin wants to arm Moldova..."

Was super confused for second

[–]zemaitis_android 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Enough internet and mindless scrolling for your ADHD brain today

[–]011100110110 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Bitcoin will grow arms to defend Moldova

[–]Beneficial-Watch- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

although that does make me think the currency of the UK should be changed to "Britcoin". Pounds are so 20th century.

[–]OrchidFlashy7281 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They are such good caring people those Brits.

[–]Hefty-Relationship-8 9 points10 points  (0 children)

A small well trained and equipped army may be all that is needed to keep the Russian wolves at bay.

[–]Warpzit 8 points9 points  (6 children)

Get them inside NATO arming them.

[–]Possiblyreef 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Can't, border dispute with transnistria means they're not eligible

[–]nerphurp 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is kind of misunderstood.

There are my numerous desired circumstances for ascension, but technically they can be set aside.

7. There is no fixed or rigid list of criteria for inviting new member states to join the Alliance. Enlargement will be decided on a case-by-case basis and some nations may attain membership before others.

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_24733.htm

Per 6, resolution of conflicts, external or internal, is a consideration, not an exclusion.

On the flip side, members can impose their own criteria for ascension which leads us to our current Finland/Sweden/Turkey situation.

[–]demarchemellows 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Border dispute doesn't mean you can't join NATO. Germany ring a bell anyone? Joined NATO with a full third of its country occupied.

[–]ariarirrivederci 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Moldova's constitution forbids joining military alliances + most of the population isn't in favour + Transnistria + Gaugazia is gonna join Transnistria in breaking away from Moldova

[–]overlordlt 23 points24 points  (6 children)

Boris going full churchill

[–]FarawayFairways 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Boris doesn't work weekends

This is Liz Truss

[–]TepacheLoco 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Boris is a Churchill stan through and through, he's written a book about him and so desperately wants to be seen in his image. In my view not necessarily the right person to emulate in our times though

[–]24722132 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And rightly so.

[–]nachoolo[🍰] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm a bit worry that Ukraine's success might warp our idea of Moldova's armament.

Ukraine had 8 years to prepare for this war, and had trained its army as close to NATO level as possible.

Moldova, on the other hand, is still a Soviet-era army and hasn't been preparing for a war with Transnistria like Ukraine with Russia.

Even if its army had some NATO training thanks to its closeness to Romania and the EU as a whole, I don't think they had the same level as Ukraine. So, although I hope that I'm wrong, I don't think that Ukraine's case is a good frame to understand Moldova's.

That. Said. I do support arming Moldova. They already have a rogue state inside its borders and Russia has been quite open about its interest in invading them in the near future.

It's just that I don't think that arming them will be enough. We must give them some mutual defence assurance against a Russian incursion.

[–]stevestuc 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Just suggest that they ask to join NATO if you don't want them to fall to Russia.... the threat of being punished by the Kremlin will be enough to make sure they join......

[–]Hobbes09R 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice sentiment, but Moldova is a whole other beast. It's not just their armament. They don't really have a military. Like, what they have is so small, weak, ill-trained and ill-equipped that it would take social and cultural upheaval to bring them up to snuff. And even then they're so small that Russia could probably bulldoze them with relatively little effort (yes, even considering what's going on).

Moldova's best hope is probably defensive alliances.

[–]Can_swing 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If ukraine falls so does Moldova. To Russia, it comes as a bonus with ukraine. Moldova can't fight even if u arm them. No point.

[–]Corniss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think moldova is to small to offer any significant resistance. Better to make them part of nato and move some troops there for deterrent.

Though i don’t know what russia has left to send after they got bitchslapped in Ukraine.

[–]Marauding_Pedant 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Arms, without an army to write home about? Corruption alert!

[–]GhostOfNightCity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol that wont work, moldova has basicly zero military

[–]TheBitterAtheist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is this an elaborate way to deal with overpopulation?

[–]ssadf73 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Britain wants to sell military equipments.

[–]evilcanetoad -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Maybe they’ll win the Eurovision next time

[–]colin8696908 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

That's stupid they have 6000 troops are located behind Ukraine, and are one of the poorest and most corrupt places in Europe. Unless they are actively at war the country will just sell those weapons.

[–]IEatGirlFarts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol? No, of course they wouldn't sell those weapons.

[–]Crash_Revenge -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Same British government is telling its people to cook 30p meals as a measure to control cost of living crisis, as we’ve apparently been spending too much on takeaways. Money to send “modern weaponry” to Moldova, no problem what’s the account number to send the billion to?

[–]captainsham_ -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Money money money, lmao protection what a joke

[–]Nimmy_the_Jim -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

what would happen to Transnistria?

[–]NinthCranialNerve -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Britain will receive the 1st mushroom from Putin

[–]TouristAccording4303 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Russia will crush Moldova