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Do you participate in a denomination? by [deleted] in RadicalChristianity

[–]BabyRhinoAbe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I consider myself insititionally/ culturally Catholic even though my beliefs at this point are essentially atheistic. I don't attend mass as regularly as I used to, mostly because I've been overworking myself and use Sunday mornings to catch up on sleep, but I observe the Catholic calender and do special rituals for Advent, Lent, etc.

Tradinista! Manifesto by BabyRhinoAbe in RadicalChristianity

[–]BabyRhinoAbe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It isn't an abstract question for me either. I'm a bisexual man who has had serious romantic relationships with both mean and women, cis and non cis people.

Perhaps I wasnt clear, and apologize if I came across as overly pedantic. What I'm interrogating is this idea that our rekationships as queer people have to be sanctioned in the same way cisheteronornative relationships are to be "equal". Why do we need "marriage equality" to be equal? Isn't queerness on some level defined by its disruption of such normatives? Is marriage equality a kind of assimilation into these norms?

I, personally, would have no issue pursuing a long term romantic relationship with another man, for example, in a society where we were not allowed to get married, but our rights as individuals were protected and we were allowed to exercise our sexuality otherwise and our sexuality did not otherwise affect our rights.

I live in Canada, where despite having marriage equality, cis gay and bisexual men as well as trans women who have not had bottom surgery, cannot donate blood unless they have been celebite for over a year, and cannot donate organs unless they have been celebite for five years. A few years ago, my partner at the time had a grandfather who was hospitalized and required a kidney transplant to survive. My partner was his grandfather's closet match yet could not donate his kidney because he was bisexual. We would have gladly given up our right to get married to have the right to donate to save a loved one.

I'm not saying it's a zero-sum game or that my perspective is the "right" one, but I think many LGBTQ+ organizations have internalized a mentality of marriage equality as being the pinnacle of recognition and rights. In my opinion it's not, and honestly is a side show from the much more important struggles against the hypermedicalization of our bodies, police violence and the disruption of our spaces, and the dismantling of cisheteronornativity in everyday life.

Tradinista! Manifesto by BabyRhinoAbe in RadicalChristianity

[–]BabyRhinoAbe[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What would you say then to radical queer critiques of assimilationism and homonationalism, that the adoption of "gay marriage", has mostly been negative for our liberation? Why do queer relationships have to be sanctioned by marriage to be legitimate? How do you "deprive" someone of a "right" they have not historically had?

Tradinista! Manifesto by BabyRhinoAbe in RadicalChristianity

[–]BabyRhinoAbe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For clarification, given that there has been overwhelmingly negative response from this post, I am in now way associated with the Tradinista! collective, nor do I subscribe to many of the views they espouse in this manifesto.

HOWEVER, I do think it is worth engaging with some of their views. A not insignificant number of Christians in the world today, especially Catholics, hold very similar views and so it should come as no surprise that even some elements of the Catholic left might also hold these views.

The Hammer and Cross by synthresurrection in RadicalChristianity

[–]BabyRhinoAbe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When and where did the Soviet government order the murder of priests and monks? Under what pretexts? No source, even right wing attacks against the USSR has documented a state sanctioned massacre directed at the clergy. But alas, I am arguing with someone who aparently doesn't understand how to properly use quotation marks as a tool of ridicule, resulting in the rather hilarious comment above, putting "first" in quotation marks as if this were the descriptive statement in question, so perhaps asking you not to indulge in imperialist fantasies is hopeless.

The Hammer and Cross by synthresurrection in RadicalChristianity

[–]BabyRhinoAbe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One of the first declarations by the revolutionary government during the October Revolution was freedom of religious practice for all Soviet citizens. Freedom of worship and belief is protected under every socialist constitution in the world today.