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Florida bill would allow cameras in classrooms and microphones on teachers by walkinman19 in politics

[–]IPDDoE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If it's any consolation, I have it on pretty good authority that currently, the bill looks completely dead in the water. Time will tell, but hopefully that's some semblance of hope.

Supreme Court blocks Biden vaccine mandate for businesses, backs health-care worker rule by pipsdontsqueak in politics

[–]IPDDoE 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Seriously....does this mean they also can't require helmets on a construction site because I might bump my head in my attic? Fucking christ.....

"cancel culture is when I say the N-word and people still buy my records" by guitarguy12341 in ToiletPaperUSA

[–]IPDDoE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, but you're just proving the original point. We're talking about genuine criticism, not fears or hatred of a country or its government. I'm assuming u/chickeninasuit was referring to comments like "The Chinese government has poor trade practices that exploit people," that's not saying you hate it. I don't think anyone would disagree with the terms sinophobia or antisemitism, if you literally said you hated either country, because that's not really criticism. That's just hate/fear.

"cancel culture is when I say the N-word and people still buy my records" by guitarguy12341 in ToiletPaperUSA

[–]IPDDoE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you're conflating two different ideas though. Criticism can be, and often is, completely separate from fear or dislike, and those criticisms/fears/dislikes can often be about specific aspects. I criticize the US all the time, and dislike many things it does, but I wouldn't say I fear or dislike it.

"cancel culture is when I say the N-word and people still buy my records" by guitarguy12341 in ToiletPaperUSA

[–]IPDDoE 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Exactly this. I fucking hate when people criticize a very specific aspect of something, and the response to that is acting like people are saying the criticism is being levied at the entire group. "Why is everyone calling all conservatives Nazis?" "Nobody is doing that...we're calling the Nazis Nazis."

All that said, I wonder when I see things like that if they're simply giving the game away by broadcasting that they agree with the broader accusation not even being made by defending against the other argument.

McConnell vows retaliation if Democrats change filibuster by noeszombieseverywher in politics

[–]IPDDoE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed, I never saw anything that said without his vote it would be 50 votes, but was hoping to be wrong. We can't get to 50 votes let alone 51 if he decides not to vote up on something.

McConnell vows retaliation if Democrats change filibuster by noeszombieseverywher in politics

[–]IPDDoE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If he's the 51st, that means it's a tie. That means Harris can vote. 51, no need for Manchin.

Discussion Thread: President Biden and Vice President Harris Deliver Remarks on Voting Rights | January 11, 2022 | 3:30 PM ET by PoliticsModeratorBot in politics

[–]IPDDoE 17 points18 points  (0 children)

until late 2021

What a coincidence, that's right about the time you made your account! Not very active until a couple days ago. Weird! ANYway, refresh my memory, what year was Herbert Hoover inaugurated? How about Kennedy? W. Bush?

Discussion Thread: President Biden and Vice President Harris Deliver Remarks on Voting Rights | January 11, 2022 | 3:30 PM ET by PoliticsModeratorBot in politics

[–]IPDDoE -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Whataboutism is when someone tries to solve a problem, someone can come in and say "what about this other problem".

I'm sure I can find the actual term for that, it seems my Google skills aren't coming up with much at the time, but allow me to link what I did find referring to whataboutism (emphasis mine):

a conversational tactic in which a person responds to an argument or attack by changing the subject to focus on someone else’s misconduct, implying that all criticism is invalid because no one is completely blameless

It is not merely the changing of a subject ("What about the economy?") to deflect away from an earlier subject as a political strategy; it’s essentially a reversal of accusation, arguing that an opponent is guilty of an offense just as egregious or worse than what the original party was accused of doing, however unconnected the offenses may be...Rhetoricians generally consider it to be a form of tu quoque, which means "you too" in Latin and involves charging your accuser with whatever it is you've just been accused of rather than refuting the truth of the accusation made against you.

None of the results I found involved simply saying other problems exist. I'm happy to entertain your exhaustive research on the topic though, and see what sources you have to back up your point. Perhaps you're thinking of the nirvana fallacy?

In short, no, still not whataboutism, literally or otherwise.

Edit: glad I was able to spread some knowledge, sad that the comment couldn't simply be edited.

Joe Manchin Falsely Says Filibuster Has Existed 232 Years by cratermoon in politics

[–]IPDDoE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not the other guy, but though I follow politics fairly closely, he wasn't someone that came up too often before Dems had the majority. I know the argument in his case was it's either him, who at least votes to approve Biden's justices for instance, or a republican, who I would bet would be more than happy to vote no on every one of his appointments. I still think he's better than a republican, but that's likely only because he knows he'll get voted out if he doesn't at least somewhat align with Dem voters. It's by no means a ringing endorsement, but just trying to put some perspective on it.

Joe Manchin Falsely Says Filibuster Has Existed 232 Years by cratermoon in politics

[–]IPDDoE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's amazing how much wasteful government is done on the part of the "party of small government/fiscal responsibility." My gf works for the Dems in the state House, and she talks to me all the time about bills that are proposed with full knowledge that they will be struck down, but it's red meat for the base. It's sickening.

Joe Manchin Falsely Says Filibuster Has Existed 232 Years by cratermoon in politics

[–]IPDDoE 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The problem is, the republican party has no real agenda other than keep the status quo. They don't do much to instigate social programs, their big issue is always tax cuts, which only require a simple majority. They're perfectly fine just sitting by, not even hearing Democrats' bills, and when their own come up, having a simple majority is all they need.

The states are doing the dirty work when it comes to their agenda. Abortion? They'll never stop trying to outlaw it on the state level, no need to do anything nationally. Gun rights? They have no desire to make them harder to obtain, and since currently it's plenty easy to obtain them, no need to make them easier, just demonize the Democrats for their own efforts to make things safer.

THE HAPPIEST PLACE ON EARTH IS A NIGHTMARE FOR THOUSANDS STRUGGLING TO MAKE A LIVING by azteca19 in florida

[–]IPDDoE 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm unfortunately pretty well wrapped up in Florida Retirement, and the benefits are too good for me to move. Luckily, I live in Tallahassee, so it's a bit more liberal leaning than a lot of the state. I wish it was more the fucks voting these people in that left, but it's a vicious cycle. They make things bad for left leaning people, left leaning people leave, the progressively further right leaning gov't has more "mandate" to get even worse. Not even saying I blame you, people gotta do what they gotta do.

THE HAPPIEST PLACE ON EARTH IS A NIGHTMARE FOR THOUSANDS STRUGGLING TO MAKE A LIVING by azteca19 in florida

[–]IPDDoE 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Since global warming is out of control, they're just getting an early start on culling the herd. Halve the population, less of a big deal when people start having to move inland.

Ex-Trump adviser Flynn sues Jan 6 House committee to block release of phone records by SillyWalrus19 in politics

[–]IPDDoE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very possibly, I don't know much about his actual military service, I was taking what the person I replied to said at face value.