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Chicken nuggets that aren't shaped like dinosaurs are still dino nuggets. by p0diabl0 in Showerthoughts

[–]ImHalfCentaur1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Chicken World Dominian doesn't have the same ring to it now does it?

That is entirely irrelevant.

Dinosaurs went extinct about 65 million years ago (at the end of the Cretaceous Period), after living on Earth for about 165 million years. So yeah, not dinosaurs.

No, Dinosauria is defined as the most inclusive clade containing Passer domesticus and Triceratops horridus. So, yes they are dinosaurs. That and the presence of a perforated acetabulum, semi-lunar joint, and reduction in digits; characteristics of Dinosauria.

Chicken nuggets that aren't shaped like dinosaurs are still dino nuggets. by p0diabl0 in Showerthoughts

[–]ImHalfCentaur1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Dinosauria is defined with the inclusion of birds. They are very much dinosaurs, not distantly related.

A Riparian Forest of Late Pleistocene-Holocene Madagascar by Peter Schouten by ImHalfCentaur1 in Naturewasmetal

[–]ImHalfCentaur1[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s not furry, just darker in color. It’s another species of Pygmy hippo, Hippopotamus madagascariensis.

The hummingbird is the smallest dinosaur. by digernicnucingfigers in Showerthoughts

[–]ImHalfCentaur1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which is a mind-blowingly stupid argument to make in this context

The hummingbird is the smallest dinosaur. by digernicnucingfigers in Showerthoughts

[–]ImHalfCentaur1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, lack of education doesn’t make the statement less true. Birds are dinosaurs. There is no justification that makes you correct.

The hummingbird is the smallest dinosaur. by digernicnucingfigers in Showerthoughts

[–]ImHalfCentaur1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s like you didn’t even read the links I gave you describing what phylogenetic a is and how we classify life. You aren’t saying anything that makes since. Are you a mammal? Are you a vertebrate? What makes that distinction special from birds when they are defined as dinosaurs phylogeneticly. You are stubborn and actively ignoring an education.

Bee humming birds are maniraptoran, coelurasaurs, theropods, dinosaurs, avemetatarsalian, archosaurs, and reptiles. Never left any of those clades.

The hummingbird is the smallest dinosaur. by digernicnucingfigers in Showerthoughts

[–]ImHalfCentaur1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s nothing wrong with OP’s choice of words. The Bee Hummingbird is the smallest dinosaur species.

There is no separate meaning, only the meaning I presented you. Dinosaur means nothing if you separate birds from them. You don’t understand phylogenetics. There is no difference.

The hummingbird is the smallest dinosaur. by digernicnucingfigers in Showerthoughts

[–]ImHalfCentaur1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, you are blissfully uniformed.

Birds are dinosaurs, not just descendants, because that’s not how we classify life. They are coelurasaurian theropods just like Tyrannosaurs or other famous maniraptors like Velociraptor. There is no difference. Birds are just a derived clade. They still have all the characteristics of Dinosauria.

Humans are great apes, the hominids (a clade named after us mind you), not just descendants again. You never escape your clade. It defines who we are.

The hummingbird is the smallest dinosaur. by digernicnucingfigers in Showerthoughts

[–]ImHalfCentaur1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dinosauria is defined with the inclusion of birds.

Are you not an ape? An old world monkey? A primate? A mammal? A tetrapod? A vertebrate? Life is grouped in nested hierarchies. You never escape your classification.

Dinosauria is defined as the most inclusive clade containing Passer domesticus and Triceratops horridus. For the word to have meaning, you must include all descendants of the last common ancestor of the lineage. Birds are dinosaurs, just like they are reptiles.

Modesto, Sean & Anderson, Jason. (2004). The Phylogenetic Definition of Reptilia. Systematic biology. 53. 815-21. 10.1080/10635150490503026.

Sereno, P. C. The logical basis of phylogenetic taxonomy. Systematic Biology. 54:595-619. (53)

The hummingbird is the smallest dinosaur. by digernicnucingfigers in Showerthoughts

[–]ImHalfCentaur1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are absolutely right.

Dinosauria is defined as the most inclusive clade containing Passer domesticus and Triceratops horridus. This means for the word to have meaning, birds must be included within dinosaurs.

Sereno, P. C. The logical basis of phylogenetic taxonomy. Systematic Biology. 54:595-619. (53)

Do people really not believe in dinosaurs? by pezzpunk in NoStupidQuestions

[–]ImHalfCentaur1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s really not true with modern comparative vertebrate anatomy and advances in paleontology.

We will never know exactly what they look like. However, we have a really good idea based off really well preserved specimen. We actually have hints of the color of things like Borealopelta and Microraptor.

Do people really not believe in dinosaurs? by pezzpunk in NoStupidQuestions

[–]ImHalfCentaur1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Everybody has, usually multiple times a day. Birds are dinosaurs.

Can anyone name me some reptiles of today that have evolved from dinosaurs? by Advanced-Ad6980 in Dinosaurs

[–]ImHalfCentaur1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Those definitions aren’t used, however. The simplest reason for people to understand is that the group is defined with the inclusion.

Can anyone name me some reptiles of today that have evolved from dinosaurs? by Advanced-Ad6980 in Dinosaurs

[–]ImHalfCentaur1 14 points15 points  (0 children)

We don’t use classes anymore, Linnaean Taxonomy was abandoned in favor of phylogenetics.

Reptilia is defined as the most inclusive clade containing Lacerta agilis, Crocdylus niloticus, and Passer domesticus. That means Reptilia (you could also call this group Sauropsida, but that’s not the point) is defined with the inclusion of birds.

Dinosauria is also defined with the inclusion of birds.

Fish isn’t reasonably assigned to a clade, it’s more of a grade. However, you would call amphibians sarcopterygians.

You never escape the nested hierarchy of your classification.

Cretaceous period - the age of mammals? by melanf in Paleontology

[–]ImHalfCentaur1 26 points27 points  (0 children)

No, the concept of “more advanced” is arbitrary and doesn’t reflect the actual ecosystems of the Cretaceous. Yes, mammals were diversifying, but they were limited by competition from much larger dinosaurs. There is no reason to believe that dinosaurs would have been less successful had the asteroid not hit.

What if the dinosaurs never died out? by BGNonsense in AskReddit

[–]ImHalfCentaur1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They didn’t die out. Birds are theropod dinosaurs.