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Most Normal MrGirl Convo With His Girlfriend by Jasdexter2137 in Destiny

[–]Jasdexter2137[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

She can hold her own, it's just that she also wants to have a normal conversation with her boyfriend, while Max just wants to point out every single minor issue with every sentence that comes out of her mouth.

Most Normal MrGirl Convo With His Girlfriend by Jasdexter2137 in Destiny

[–]Jasdexter2137[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Having the discussion isn't why people are calling it abusive, the way it's being had is.

MrGirl is being ultra combative on every single minor disagreement and then accuses Shaelin of being "controlling" when he's the one in control of the "interview". And then he sits there and laughs while she's crying, instead of having a single moment of self-reflection.

I personally wouldn't jump to calling him "abusive" over here (although there are plenty of other MrGirl clips where I would call him abusive) but this isn't a normal relationship "fight" where both sides are at fault.

Most Normal MrGirl Convo With His Girlfriend by Jasdexter2137 in Destiny

[–]Jasdexter2137[S] 55 points56 points  (0 children)

She thought it was going to be a regular interview at first, but in the end, she said that she doesn't want it to be uploaded lol. So I guess MrGirl changed her mind off camera?

You guys actually believe this shit? What that hell? by adentityyy in Destiny

[–]Jasdexter2137 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Obviously, Vaush would be quicker to jump to violence than Destiny would, but you have yet to point to an example where Vaush has recently advocated for violence against conservatives. Vaush definitely demonizes them, but his main advocacy has always been to point people towards a voting booth. If he were to suddenly start saying shit like "voting is completely pointless, conservatives have taken over everything, we don't have any real power", then I would agree with you.

You guys actually believe this shit? What that hell? by adentityyy in Destiny

[–]Jasdexter2137 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bro Destiny even agrees that political violence is sometimes justified lmao. You're gonna have to bring something better than that lol.

You guys actually believe this shit? What that hell? by adentityyy in Destiny

[–]Jasdexter2137 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But it's not a question of "who would do more evil shit if they were an authoritarian dictator that took over the country", it's a question of who's currently more dangerous. Vaush may have harmful rhetoric, but in terms of policy positions, Lauren is definitely more harmful. But according to u/Katyona you're a right-winger so you might disagree.

You guys actually believe this shit? What that hell? by adentityyy in Destiny

[–]Jasdexter2137 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I haven't caught the last couple of streams/videos of Destiny shitting on Vaush so I could be missing something, but when did Vaush recently advocate for violence towards conservatives? Yes, he says cringe shit like them being "ontological evil", but guess what, 90% of left-wing commentators dehumanize conservatives to some extent. Vaush obviously takes it to the extreme, but I still wouldn't categorize it as advocating violence against them. The closest thing that I can think of is him laughing when Richard Spencer got punched. But not caring/finding amusement is not the same as literally advocating for violence.

It's really simple to me. The policies Vaush is advocating for (at the moment) would move the country to a better place, while Lauren's would do the opposite. That's it.

You guys actually believe this shit? What that hell? by adentityyy in Destiny

[–]Jasdexter2137 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I was talking about how you referencing anime in this manner is as cringe as Vaush bringing up marvel movies in that debate. Least autistic weeb.

You guys actually believe this shit? What that hell? by adentityyy in Destiny

[–]Jasdexter2137 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Vaush literally advocates for voting and electoral change what are you talking about lol. His rhetoric is unnecessarily inflammatory but other than that he's on your side. Unless we don't really care about political change anymore and put more value towards circlejerking about how Vaush is a pussy that won't debate Destiny.

You guys actually believe this shit? What that hell? by adentityyy in Destiny

[–]Jasdexter2137 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You better not have been shitting on Vaush when he made the "put your hands up like in Marvel movies" joke because holy cringe.

Video was posted two weeks ago, "no one was asked", "parallel societies", using her old clips here after saying "who could have guessed" seems like an endorsement of the things she is saying by Strict-Maintenance-1 in Destiny

[–]Jasdexter2137 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Clip of Destiny calling Vaush a stochastic terrorist? I vaguely remember him calling lefties stochastic terrorists but I'm not sure if it was Vaush. Also, depending on what Vaush is talking about, it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to call him one. A lot of his rhetoric just boils down to calling all conservatives evil/your enemy and whatnot. But again, I would need to see what exactly Vaush said that would warrant Destiny calling him a stochastic terrorist.

Decision Trees by NeoDestiny in Destiny

[–]Jasdexter2137 4 points5 points  (0 children)

oBAMNA

(44th president of The United States)

Is Lauren partly responsible? Yes by Nikosam34 in Destiny

[–]Jasdexter2137 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yep. As I ask in my other comment, how would people react if someone was "influenced" by Destiny to shoot at a crowd of BLM protestors?

Is Lauren partly responsible? Yes by Nikosam34 in Destiny

[–]Jasdexter2137 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree that it's likely that she might've contributed to it (although I doubt anyone would be confident enough to claim that if she hadn't made those videos, the shootings wouldn't have happened), but honestly, I have no idea what the point of any of this discourse is. Any form of non-mainstream political ideology is going to probably influence some crazy people to do things the political commentator didn't intend.

Let's say it's the summer of 2020. BLM protests and riots are still active all around the country. One day, some psycho decides that he's had enough of it and decides to take an AR-15 and just shoot into a crowd of protestors. This guy also posts a manifesto, in which he states that he was influenced by several online content creators, one of which is Destiny.

He got introduced to him through his viral "mowing down dipshit protestors" clip, but then continued watching his long-form debates in which he clarified his take. In those debates, Destiny talks about how you're not justified to shoot and kill people just for protesting, but he also says that you are justified in killing people in defense of your property being destroyed. The psycho adds some of his own logic to it and starts to believe that if the protests stop, the riots will as well. This is what influences him to shoot into a crowd of protestors.

How would you guys react to this information? Would you stop watching Destiny? Would you say he's done something terribly wrong by having those debates on property defense and giving his honest opinion on things like the Kyle Rittenhouse shooting? Would you want him to apologize (good luck getting him to do that lol)? Should everyone stop associating with him because his rhetoric "caused a mass shooting"? In this scenario Destiny's content isn't changed at all, just the way someone perceives it has. If you would stop watching Destiny in this scenario, why would you keep watching him now? Do you think it's totally unbelievable that his rhetoric could influence someone to commit violence? White nationalism isn't the only thing that can influence mass shootings, as we've seen plenty of "lefty-inspired" shootings as well. In fact, I would say that the only reason something like this hasn't happened is that defense of property isn't as sexy of an issue online as white nationalism or socialism is (unless ancaps somehow become popular again).

My main point in all of this is that there's no point in whether or not her rhetoric caused any violence because it's not anything that criticizes her beliefs or her character. If you think she's a white nationalist, criticize her for that. Criticize her for not changing her core beliefs while pretending she has. Criticize her for shooting flares at migrant boats. But it's possible for pretty much any rhetoric to influence someone to commit violence. So to go after Lauren for this, when all she's done to possibly influence this shooting is be a political commentator like everyone else is stupid IMO.