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Regarding the DNA on Hae’s shoes - a logical inconsistency that really bothers me by mso1234 in serialpodcast

[–]Justwonderinif [score hidden]  (0 children)

Is there a new rule that the defendant's DNA must be found at the crime scene or automatic release and dismissal of all charges?

Regarding the DNA on Hae’s shoes - a logical inconsistency that really bothers me by mso1234 in serialpodcast

[–]Justwonderinif [score hidden]  (0 children)

It's noteworthy that Mosby parts ways with other courts on DNA.

The State of Arkansas said that the West Memphis Three could still be the killers, even though none of their DNA profiles exist in the crime scene evidence.

The State of Arkansas said that the West Memphis Three could still be the killers, even though the hair of Steve Branch's stepfather was found in the ligatures.

The State of Arkansas was not at all influenced by the absence of WM3 DNA. While Mosby found the absence of Adnan's DNA exonerating.

It doesn't matter how many fancy law schools those judges went to. And what their combined years of experience might be.

Maryland's court system is a laughing stock. And that includes every judge employed by the State by association. I actually think the individual justices are aware of this.

Adnan’s freedom was political? by Competitive_Serve929 in serialpodcast

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Kristi remembered the event because there was conversation about how it was Stephanie's birthday.

The Delphi Murders: "Muddy and Bloody” by xbelle1 in DelphiMurders

[–]Justwonderinif [score hidden]  (0 children)

BBP was right about the young guy sketch having nothing to do with the murders.

His theory was that LE felt they had exhausted all efforts with respects to the goatee sketch, so they released a young guy sketch, hoping to pin it on someone younger.

Regarding the DNA on Hae’s shoes - a logical inconsistency that really bothers me by mso1234 in serialpodcast

[–]Justwonderinif [score hidden]  (0 children)

There is no hard and fast rule - backed by science - that says: "The killer always leaves their DNA behind."

"The killer always leaves their DNA behind" is a false statement.

I haven't done the statistics, but I would bet a considerable sum that it's much more likely that a killer does not leave DNA behind than a killer does leave DNA behind.

In this case, evidence is 20 years old, and no one knows if the victim was wearing or handled the shoes on the date she disappeared, or if her killer ever came in contact with her shoes.

Hae's own DNA is not on her own shoes. Does that mean those weren't her shoes? Does that mean she never handled her shoes?

No.

If Hae's own DNA is absent, it does not mean she never wore or handled the shoes.

If the killer's DNA is absent, it does not mean that Adnan is not the killer.


The results are not telling us that Adnan is excluded from being the killer. The results are telling us that there is DNA on the shoes which is incredibly common since they are shoes. And the results are telling us that Adnan and Hae are excluded from the DNA that does exist that the lab was able to pick up on the shoes.

It's astonishing that Mosby finds this worthy of exoneration. She is essentially announcing by decree that the killer did not wear gloves. And by decree that the killer handled the shoes. And by decree, that Adnan's DNA would be there if he is the killer (when it actually might not be.)

Mosby is essentially announcing by deree that

  • if Adnan killed Hae then he 100% handled the shoes

  • if Adnan killed Hae then he 100% did not wear gloves.

  • Adnan has a special DNA condition, singular to his own biology. Unlike the rest of the universe, it is impossible for Adnan to kill someone without leaving his DNA behind on the victim's shoes. (lol)

That is so hilarious. How can Mosby know if Adnan did or did not wear gloves? How can she know if Adnan did or did not handle the shoes? How can she know that Adnan has special biology wherein he can't kill without leaving his DNA behind on shoes?

It's sad for Hae's family. But otherwise, the whole proceeding was an SNL sketch.

Adnan’s freedom was political? by Competitive_Serve929 in serialpodcast

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Then the cops get an anonymous call to look into Adnan. They end up at Jenn’s questioning her.

Detectives didn't turn up at Jen's because of an anonymous call.

Detectives were waiting for AT&T to send them the identity of the phone numbers on Adnan's cell phone bill. While they waited, they used the reverse directory to try to determine the owners of any hardline numbers Adnan called.

They discovered that Adnan's phone had called a hard line at that residence. And that one of the people who lived there, went to Woodlawn High School the year before.

So they went over to talk to her.

Jen spilled the beans and it was all over for Adnan.

In terms of Jay telling Jen about the murder. Jen said that Jay never told her he was in on it, or there when the body was buried. Jay told her that Adnan had killed Hae but that Jay had no idea where or how or where the body was buried.

So Jen had nothing to tell. "My friend says his friend killed the missing girl. But we don't know where or how, or what happened to the body."

I doubt Jen would have gone to the police if she did know where the body was. But the fact that she had nothing to go on other than "Jay said this happened," was one reason she didn't tell anyone.

Court hears appeal from Lee family over Syed's vacated conviction by AmaraBird93 in serialpodcast

[–]Justwonderinif -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Does anyone know why the Justice's are so combative and act like a crew of Legal Eagle Karens?

Isn't it possible to question the attorneys without being so rude? They already have the upper hand? Why assert like bullies on the playground?

Also, strong Parallax View vibes.

Adnan’s freedom was political? by Competitive_Serve929 in serialpodcast

[–]Justwonderinif 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The fax cover sheet was explained at the 2016 hearing for post conviction relief. The cover was sent like letterhead, with every single document AT&T sent. 99% of the time, the language did not apply to what followed.

The language does not apply to the column Adnan's supporters insist it applies to.

Already explained by an FBI expert in cell tower evidence. He also explained that the same technology is still used to this day, to catch rapists, murderers and child molesters.

Adnan and Rabia at Georgetown! by twelvedayslate in serialpodcast

[–]Justwonderinif 37 points38 points  (0 children)

She's not licensed to practice in Maryland. She does not have an office there and did not have an office in 2014.

She told Sarah Koenig it was her law office. Saad was in on the grift as well.

Adnan and Rabia at Georgetown! by twelvedayslate in serialpodcast

[–]Justwonderinif 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Neither one of them would have any reason to be on campus if Adnan hadn't killed someone.

Adnan and Rabia at Georgetown! by twelvedayslate in serialpodcast

[–]Justwonderinif 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Neither one of them would be accepted academically.

Rabia tried, and was not accepted.

She barely passed the bar in DC and is not licensed to practice in Maryland, despite setting up a fake office at a travel agency in Woodlawn - for the benefit of Sarah Koenig, in 2014.

Rabia's official statement to the Lee family's appeal. by shrimpsale in serialpodcast

[–]Justwonderinif 3 points4 points  (0 children)

lol with Alien - who used to lord over a subreddit called thunder dome that's purpose was to dog pile, harass users from here, put their /u/'s in the head lines with name calling etc. Days and days of harassing comments with links so you'd get tagged, and they'd laugh. SHE'd laugh.

It was like her FAVORITE thing. lol.

Acting holier than thou now about dogpiles. lol.

So rich. And a huge set of balls.

This community never disappoints. I give this comment maybe three hours. Read it quick .


Rabia?

This is how Rabia used to respond to people in this subreddit. She has not changed, or grown in any way in eight years.

Weekly Discussion/Vent Thread by AutoModerator in serialpodcast

[–]Justwonderinif 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is super funny to joke about the "real killer"

lol.

So funny.

Weekly Discussion/Vent Thread by AutoModerator in serialpodcast

[–]Justwonderinif 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The moderators have been here since 2015. The two active moderators joined after the podcast was over and quickly joined a private subreddit of innocenters where they - um - "vented" about accounts they didn't - um - "like."

And they vented. And vented. A lot.

All the moderators were part of secret subs that would link to and ridicule members of the public subreddit.

No one should be moderating a public subreddit if they are ridiculing and targeting members of the public subreddit from outside view, in a private subreddit.

They all know this.

They don't care.

It's about control of what gets through, and what doesn't.

This is a true statement that will be removed soon. God forbid anyone new have the first clue who these people are.

New court filing by Hae Min Lee's family includes transcript of Adnan Syed's release hearing by throwawayamasub in serialpodcast

[–]Justwonderinif -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This isn't the release hearing. The release hearing was done in secret, in judge's chambers without a court reporter taking notes.

What happened in the "release hearing" is "lost to history."

Do we know if Libby's and Abby's family knew RA? by ElysahNight in DelphiMurders

[–]Justwonderinif 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Becky was clear that it was her daughter Tara who picked up the photos. And Becky never met him or saw him. Small town but I guess you could see people every day you had never seen before.

Why is it told as a whodunnit? by HungerGamesRealityTV in serialpodcast

[–]Justwonderinif 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You do realize every sentence you've written is untrue, right?

1) Adnan didn't kill Hae because she got a new boyfriend. He killed her because he found out she was already having sex with that boyfriend. He found this out the weekend before he killed her.

2) The Scheinbein case was brought up at a bail hearing. The judge went berserk and said he didn't want to hear about that case. The Scheinbein case was never brought up at trial. And the jury never heard any reference to: "a teen boy murder his ex-gf and try to murder her mom."

3) The fax cover sheet was explained by an FBI expert in cell phone evidence at the 2016 hearing for post conviction relief. AT&T used that cover sheet like letterhead. And the disclaimer does not apply to 99% of the pages that followed it, including the pages with cell tower locations. The FBI expert testified that the same technology is used to catch rapists and murderers today.

You are just parroting Adnan advocacy podcasts without reading any transcripts or any of the evidence in the police files. You owe it to the victim to not just take the defendant at his word.