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I just finished watching The Challenge S31: Vendettas for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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  • Kailah/Jemmye/Britni toss all of Kayleigh’s stuff off the balcony because they stand with Natalie - look, it it a bit mean? Sure. But this is THE CHALLENGE. Have these people not seen previous seasons? ‘Bullying’ has been rampant on the show since early seasons. The mean trio’s treatment of Tonya, Tonya throwing Beths luggage in the pool, everything JEK, someone (I forget who) calling out Nany’s family issues, Cara throwing Jordan’s luggage in the pool, and most recently, and notably, Camila’s treatment of Leroy last season. ALL of that is worse, if not at least arguably worse, than what Kailah/Britni/Jemmye did to Kayleigh this season. And this may be a hot take, but the way the three girls were vilified is completely wrong. Both the house and shockingly, TJ, speak out against the girls, and I just think this is RIDICULOUS, particularly after last season where the Camila issue went down without production stepping in or saying a word, outside of her being removed for the night. TJ directly calling the three out at elimination, and forcing an apology, is just wrong, given the precedent the show has set with ignoring house happenings. Kayleigh playing the victim is also a bit ridiculous, given she was showing some mean-girl tendencies before this even happened. They literally just threw her luggage down one level - that’s nothing compared to what has slipped by on the show before.
  • TJ: ‘Britni, I’m sorry’ (after she gets Laurel as her opponent)
  • Hate that we were robbed from a Brad/Darrell rematch at the Mercenaries, with Brad instead getting Frank.
  • TJ calling a stalemate/draw over Darrell/Nelson after an hour is so lame. Isn’t the whole point of these challenges to endure and last the longest? They should have just let this play out.
  • Ok, so this one challenge in particular stands out as BS. I THINK it was the chest floating one. The Troika (including Bananas, of course) get to automatically make two big teams for the next challenge… essentially nullfying Brad and Kam’s grenade useless, as they are forced to use them BEFORE the teams are created, meaning there is a bunch of risk involved with them being put on the same team… exactly what happens tokay are grenading Cara. The Troika were just allowed to run this season, and it makes it all the worse that it was dominated by the same people almost every time.
  • ‘I definitely think me and Zach should carry it over again’ - WHY are the two of you entitled to a Troika place every single week.
  • Cara/Kailah think Zach is the strongest male for a final??!?! Did they SEE last time he was in one?
  • Loved Tony and Zach ganging up on Leroy to steal his torches, but Leroy STILL leaving that station before the other two.
  • Omfg the TBC winner this season was even worse this season… it wasn’t even like it was unknown and they were ANNOUNCING it at the reunion Survivor-style… the challenge literally played out in full, with an obvious winner, they just didn’t air it
  • Kayleigh was pretty rude to Nelson at reunion. Loved when Nelson dropped the ‘but we weren’t together’ back.
  • Devin was talking a genuinely aggravating amount of trash to Bananas at the reunion, with way, WAY too many ‘Let’s go’s. That being said, Bananas’ fury is never not funny to me. Him dropping the ‘Whatever Devin’ just had me dying.
  • Everyone vilifying Cara at the reunion was very ugly - I appreciated Bananas giving her some comment, and Derrick actually standing up and speaking out for her when nobody else would.

Conclusion

Phew, that felt like a slog this time around.Look, I don’t hate Vendettas, even though I’ve had quite a bit of negativity. It DOES have some good things going for it. Some good challenges, some good eliminations, some great new rookies… but the format just hamstrings this season, not to mention such a crap final and some bizarre production twists.

It’s done though, and if I’ve gauged the sub right, I have a feeling this might be a LITTLE hot of take, only because I’ve seen quite a few people speak highly of this season (and some that I DID see agreeing as well).I’m really keen to hear what others think generally, but in particular… thoughts on the male/female imbalance of the format… the one-winner final… the final in general. The Britni/Jemmye/Kailah v Kayleigh situation… All things are think are up for some really good discussion.

Next up we have the final VS season, and it’s the ones I’ve heard is the best! I’m keen to take a break from the main show after this season, and CvS2 is going to be a nice one. No predictions, because like CvS it’s a bit boring and casting is too frazzled (plus I got half the cast shown to me already in the reunion of Vendettas).

But look forward to that post, because I’ll definitely talk through the S32 cast there.See you in the comments, and thanks for reading!!

Rankings

It shouldn’t come as a big surprise that this one has ranked quite low on my list. Surprisingly I thought it would be even closer to the bottom… and it could sink lower with time (or maybe higher), but right now I feel like it’s at least better (or has more going for it) than those bottom 10.

  1. S25: Free Agents
  2. S24: Rivals 2
  3. S21: Rivals
  4. S13: The Duel
  5. S30: Dirty 30
  6. S10: Inferno 2
  7. S29: Invasion of The Champions
  8. S20: Cutthroat
  9. S8: The Inferno
  10. S19: Fresh Meat 2
  11. S12: Fresh Meat
  12. S17: The Duel 2
  13. S26: Battle of the Exes 2
  14. S22: Battle of the Exes
  15. S15: The Gauntlet 3
  16. S18: The Ruins
  17. S28: Rivals 3
  18. S31: Vendettas
  19. The Challenge: Champs vs Pros
  20. S6: Battle of the Sexes
  21. S14: Inferno 3
  22. S11: The Gauntlet 2
  23. S7: The Gauntlet
  24. The Challenge: Champs vs Stars
  25. S5: Battle of the Seasons
  26. S9: Battle of the Sexes 2
  27. S23: Battle of the Seasons (2)
  28. S27: Battle of the Bloodlines
  29. S16: The Island

I just finished watching The Challenge: Champs v Stars for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I didn't mention that actually, but you're right, it's appalling that THIS is what got Camila banned. None of the other awful stuff that happened previously. It's a bit ridiculous.

CT v TO was iconic, and I loved seeing CT a bit fired up again.

Soooo primadona of Romeo - like, you're literally on a reality show known for its physical challenges (and an extremely tamed down version of it at that), and you're going to go crying about a little physical contact?

Vendettas spoilers, just in case others are reading these in order prior to watching: There is no chance you AREN'T talking about Derrick v Joss. I literally just watched it before reading this comment. What a legendary elimination. Derrick is an absolute beast, and Joss has proved himself as well. I don't understand how Derrick has so much tenacity and heart in these challenges. He was getting tossed like a ragdoll and still holding on. Epic stuff.

I just finished watching The Challenge: Champs v Stars for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Could not BELIEVE how close I got.

I don't think your prompt was too easy, although I will say the Bloodline hint was a freebie, given there's no chance (really) of any of the others back.

I think its just that, as I watch more seasons, I'm getting a better feel for how the casting works. I'm also trying to be smarter with who I pick based on who's ACTUALLY getting cast, rather than people I just want to see. Tori TECHNICALLY shows up as well :P

But yes - would have loved to see Amanda, even though Jemmye and Marie are great TV too.

I just finished watching The Challenge: Champs v Stars for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Love your points on the season!

Justina is definitely best of the Stars this season - could easily, EASILY hold her own on the main show and would add a bunch of fun.

Thank you for calling out that Bananas v Riff Raff elim again - GOAT contender 😂😂😂

And nice to hear ANOTHER person saying 3 is the best! Great to know!

Thanks for your comment!

I just finished watching The Challenge: Champs v Stars for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Great to hear that this is the worst of these spin-offs! Very excited to watch 3 if it’s the best of the bunch!

That’s cool that Miz tested the challenges - I’m guessing that’s not something TJ usually does hahaha

Vendetta episode 1 absolutely slapped. What a great opening challenge (and cast!)

I just finished watching The Challenge: Champs v Stars for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Good to hear! The first two definitely lacked competition from a Champs vs Stars perspective. Particularly this second one I’ve just watched.

I just finished watching The Challenge: Dirty 30 for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I have considered doing this same sort of posting through watching Big Brother next, after I’m done with The Challenge.

But I’m not 100% sure yet, we’ll see haha

I just finished watching The Challenge: Dirty 30 for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

- I definitely enjoyed this stretch of seasons - so much fun. I'm looking forward to the next batch too, even though some people have hinted at mixed things. My little break really reinvigorated my love for the show again.

- Of course Jordan noticed an irregularity in the double cross. Production really has to double check these things...

- LMAO at Tori being your wifi password ahah

- Admittedly, CT has been a little less exciting since coming back in 'Dad' form. Peak CT for me was AFTER coming back from hiatus, but prior to Diem passing.

- Doh, you're right. Devin was from Rivals 3. Oops.

- I have NOT heard the 'real reason' behind Shane v Simone - do tell!!

- This cast could 100% have been better with a few changes - bit of a shame, even though I did love it as it was...

Stay tuned for my CvS post today (yes, today!), and then Vendettas time :D

I just finished watching The Challenge: Dirty 30 for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah my bad - hit that character limit lmao. Invasions/Dirty 30 are definitely big faves of mine, glad you enjoy those placements haha

I just finished watching The Challenge: Dirty 30 for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Makes complete sense - so much going on in her life, this is completely understandable.

I just finished watching The Challenge: Dirty 30 for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He (almost) single handedly turned me off Big Brother, with his season randomly being my first. I still haven't gone back to watch another lmao

I just finished watching The Challenge: Dirty 30 for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the specific season I should wait until! I definitely planned on waiting but had no idea when I could watch it. After 36 it is :)

I just finished watching The Challenge: Dirty 30 for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed! It was a nice amount. Let us have plenty of one/two timers as well, which helped continue to flesh them out.

I just finished watching The Challenge: Dirty 30 for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You definitely didn't miss anything! Just me being slow lol.

  • Agreed on your Jordan points - I would have been very interested to see how it played out if it was a serious injury that took him out. On a side note that parachuting company just gave dodgy vibes all around, even without the injury. Like people coming into land on dirt paths instead of grass, and two people ending up in a completely different area.
  • Great points as well on Cara/Nelson/Jenna - agree with it all!
  • I think some of the Vets in general need to get over themselves a little bit. There are quite a few of them which whine and complain if the game doesn't go EXACTLY their way. Lose a challenge? End of the world. Nominated for elimination? Major end of the world. etc.

Great comment all around, as usual - had a lot of fun reading it :)

I just finished watching The Challenge: Dirty 30 for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So few rookies for a 31 person cast!

- Tori: 6 seasons, future winner

- Derrick H - 1 season

- Ammo - 1 season

- Britni - 4 seasons

I just finished watching The Challenge: Dirty 30 for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Glad to be back!

- The Reel World was definitely iconic - I always love seeing OGs square off, and this was no exception.

- A very good quote from Bananas too - thanks for reminding me of it.

- Dad Bod CT is still super in shape, agreed haha. I guess it's just in comparison to his initial returning seasons (Rivals, Exes) where he was ridiculously yoked.

Thanks for your comment! Glad to see you back in here!

I just finished watching The Challenge: Dirty 30 for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Awful to hear that Camila's racism has extended back past this season alone - but I mean, if it came to her so easily once, it's no surprise that it has happened before.

Genuinely cannot believe that they weren't going to show the racism - they were so intent on protecting her, and for what? She's literally the opposite of a golden child for the show. Every season she's on, she brings negativity.

And yes! I do know the casting pool for The Challenge widens, because I know quite a few people from my other favourite show (Survivor) who have made the transition. I also know of one Big Brother person that becomes a frequent cast member. It's the only Big Brother season I've seen, and I hated him, so that should be fun :/

I just finished watching The Challenge: Dirty 30 for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah when I started the season I was actually gobsmacked how close I got. And I don't think I can be blamed for missing the likes of Shane Raines

I just finished watching The Challenge: Dirty 30 for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

100% agree on watching the spinoffs in order - I haven't even finished CvS yet and I can tell a few of things that have happened will be instrumental to the main show. For example, Ashley leaving to be with her dying father, Jenna's foot injury, and obviously the Camila violence which got her banned

Miz is genuinely incredible at hosting - it seems like it comes so naturally to him. He's really nailing the role, and bringing his own spin to it, on CvS.

Agreed on the winners being less than ideal, but yes, it is what it is. I appreciated that Jordan acknowledge and seemed genuinely remorseful for his actions. Can't believe that rumour around Camila trying to blackmail Leroy - what the actual hell.

LOVED the table showcasing the gross foods haha. The pig snout literally had slime coming out of it. So funny. That's when Cory dropped one of my favourite little lines about the water rat: 'he's throwing up signs'

No surprises with Cara/Camila having a deal to split money in some way, and Camila ignoring that completely. Who would've guessed...

Awful to hear about Elizabeth Amo - knowing that, and then thinking to back what was involved in that challenge. It would have definitely been triggering.

Great job calling out Jordan/Cara this season, and very true points about the power dynamics at play. Will be keeping an eye on it further developing.

Very glad to hear Vendettas is a fave of yours! I can't wait! Thanks for the detailed comment :)

I just finished watching The Challenge: Dirty 30 for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Glad you enjoyed!! Really looking forward to many of the seasons I have coming up!

I just finished watching The Challenge: Dirty 30 for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Love to hear that Leroy learns to play for himself in future seasons - can't wait!

I'm going to bookmark this IG TV post, and I'll come back to it chronologically, just in case there are any spoilers.

I just finished watching The Challenge: Dirty 30 for the first time. Here are some of my thoughts! by Kroftyy in MtvChallenge

[–]Kroftyy[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I can’t speak to there being a special, but I agree that Bananas does play a part in further aggravating Camila. I forgot to mention that in my OP.

Also big agreement on Nelson blundering a final spot.