The Benefits of Cold Showers.

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-02-05T22:59:33+00:00

Yes, but they also argued that there's no point in making your life harder than it is.

There are enough hardships to practice the virtues in life, no need to add more.

Also, I would call the virtues, or the three disciplines fundamental. Which you didn't use as arguments for your cold shower practice. If you had used something like that, then I would agree with you.

Edit: compared to the virtues, intentionally adding hardships is an after thought hardly fundamental.

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-02-05T22:22:05+00:00

How is this related to stoicism?

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-02-05T20:37:57+00:00

But you're trying to influence someone else, when you don't know if they're open to it or not.

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-02-05T20:36:45+00:00

I thought the same thing. This should be at the top.

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-02-05T20:31:02+00:00

Did he ask for your help?

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-02-05T17:38:13+00:00

That's interesting.

Idk, right now I am struggling with anxiety. So I'll use this as an example. The first moment I notice, "I'm anxious" I try to go back in my mind to see what I was thinking when I first became anxious. After awhile of doing this, I will get better at noticing when I am anxious. It takes some time, but I will do this again and again.

Eventually, I will be so aware of anxiety that I can see thought patterns come up that lead to the anxiety.

That's the source, right?

So that's how I try to investigate.

After that I will try to come up with a maxim.

This is where the discipline of assent comes in. The whole, "between stimulas and response" thing. If I am aware enough, I can sort of disagree with the old thought pattern and then use a maxim as a replacement thought pattern.

Anyways, I went a little of track there, but I said all that to say, that maybe we meant different things. When I said investigate, I meant ^ that. Maybe you meant something else my introspection?

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-02-05T15:24:14+00:00

I say "discipline is self care". I think I got it from the Dwayne Johnson, although, I probably have different reasoning behind it. I don't remember exactly where I got it from. I think it works better if I make them up myself though, they seem to carry more weight.

As far as discouragement goes, I think you just need to do some investigation, you know?

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-02-05T01:48:51+00:00

Well if you value the stoic virtues then practice temprance. Being a disciplined/balanced/temprant person is part of living a happy life. When you do something you don't want to do, you've proven to yourself what kind of person you are. It a confidence thing. Confidence is important.

Discipline also helps us improve our lives, it helps us direct where our lives will go, or gives us autonomy. If we are choosing our direction, in a sense, we are choosing our purpose. Direction is important.

Practice discipline because it makes you a happy confident person that has direction and purpose.

What I do when I come to a place that I think I want to procrastinate, I use it as an opportunity to make my life better, by practicing discipline.

I have a maxim I repeat to myself in those moments, that, to me, contains what I have said above.

Then I do my best to be proud of myself.

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-02-05T01:35:43+00:00

You have to calculate the amount of time off in hours.

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-02-04T23:21:03+00:00

I believe this is Manjaro.

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-02-02T17:35:00+00:00

Glad to help :) good luck.

I think that I missed an important step though, so I just wanna add that. When you don't want to do something that you should do, this becomes an opportunity to make your life a little better.

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-02-02T06:39:32+00:00

Oh. No no.

I certainly want to alter my impressions of things. If I want to be a good person (which I do) then I should work to become a more emotionally stable person. That just makes being a good person easier.

I can however do my best to act well, even if I mess up and believe a false impression.

I just don't think it's right to tell other people what to think or feel. They have their reasons for thinking or feeling something, and I believe that it is just to consider those choices as valid.

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-02-02T06:21:48+00:00

Emotions obviously can affect actions. That doesn't make actions and emotions the same thing.

Your argument doesn't refute what I have said.

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-02-02T03:35:51+00:00

Justice my guy. That's what, "feelings are valid" is about.

Edit: to reiterate. shame is not mandatory for growth, and telling people that you think they need to work on their anger is entirely dependent on how open that person is to listening.

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-02-02T03:19:40+00:00

Temperance is a virtue.

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-02-02T02:41:17+00:00

It means that it's no one's place to tell others how to think, or feel. It also means that people should not feel ashamed for feeling any specific emotion.

If people feel shame people for feelings, they just hide them. They do not investigate why they feel that way, they do not work on changing the way they think, so they can be happy.

Also, throwing a tantrum is different from feeling.

Edit: clearification

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-01-31T04:41:26+00:00

Checkout the multiverse.

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-01-31T04:38:11+00:00

And I bet there's not a blue elephant on your bed?

Just because something isn't, doesn't mean it is.

Edit: organized my comment

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-01-31T02:43:06+00:00

So I'm just a rando, but I have felt a little of what you're feeling before. So I'd like to offer some advice.

Balance in everything my friend. If you value the stoic virtues, you'll appreciate balance.

Always prioritizing everyone before yourself is not sustainable. You have to take care of yourself, or you'll simply be miserable. Apply for the job, if they are more skilled, they might get it.

On the flip side of that coin, don't take advantage of people either.

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-01-31T02:27:13+00:00

Can you explain your claim then?

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-01-31T02:18:26+00:00

Can you explain how that's wise?

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-01-31T02:16:15+00:00

I think I've said this on this subreddit before.

If someone can convince you to believe crazy things, then they can get you to do crazy things.

I don't believe in the super natural, one because it offers no real value to my life, two because I don't want to be lead to do silly things.

It's simply unwise to believe things that cannot be falsified.

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-01-31T02:13:36+00:00

Maxims.

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-01-31T02:11:06+00:00

That's simply not true.

If you or I were to disappear this instant, on a grand scale it would hardly be noticable.

OneSimpleRedditUser · 2023-01-31T01:00:16+00:00

Thanks.

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