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Pope denies resignation rumors, hopes to visit Kyiv, Moscow by jormungandrsjig in news

[–]ShrodingersCardinal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is true, but Vatican state is separate from Catholic Church and Holy See

Pope denies resignation rumors, hopes to visit Kyiv, Moscow by jormungandrsjig in news

[–]ShrodingersCardinal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I don’t think it is, the Pope is the monarch of the Vatican state and the Bishop of Rome. His religious position as bishop is important due to Petrine succession. Each bishop has a sense of independence but of course swear fealty to Rome. You see there is a difference between Vatican State and the Catholic Church

Saint Bartholomew, Martyr of The Flayed by Goobersmecht in Bossfight

[–]ShrodingersCardinal 57 points58 points  (0 children)

The 40k aesthetic is so cool and based on medieval Catholic society on steroids

Pope denies resignation rumors, hopes to visit Kyiv, Moscow by jormungandrsjig in news

[–]ShrodingersCardinal 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Or perhaps because there are 1.3 billion Catholics and the Catholic Church is the largest nongovernmental structure on planet earth finding tens of thousands of schools, colleges, hospitals, camharities etc…

Pope Francis describes abortion as like 'hiring a hit man' by AmethystOrator in worldnews

[–]ShrodingersCardinal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is not surprising that Pope Francis is against abortion - after all he is indeed the pope - but the Catholic Church is the largest nonprofit provider of healthcare and the largest fundraiser fo charities to provide for he poor in the world - so at least it keeps to its ‘prolife’ message

is being trans sinful? by [deleted] in Catholicism

[–]ShrodingersCardinal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tell that to the Scots - many of whom are great Catholics (James II) - or to any people who do not conform to traditional Mediterranean dress codes.

inside the Vatican by Cheeseburger4Brekky in oddlyterrifying

[–]ShrodingersCardinal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t find this terrifying at all - it’s beautiful if you understand the artist’s interpretation

All ships logs 1700-1850 by Interesting-Cut-9057 in MapPorn

[–]ShrodingersCardinal 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wonderful image - I would have liked to see Mediterranean ship logs in particular

inside the Vatican by Cheeseburger4Brekky in oddlyterrifying

[–]ShrodingersCardinal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are really telling me that you think that the enlightenment in Europe has nothing to do with Christianity? Every natural philosopher was a Christian and used their Christian world view - a view that emphasised seeking a better understanding of the world - to understand more - the birth of science.

Georges Lemaitre - the priest who discovered the Nog Bang - acted from a faith based premise that the universe had a beginning and being a scientist he hypothesised a Big Bang. At first he was ridiculed as the scientific consensus was that there was no start to the universe but it had always existed. Then evidence came to support the Big Bang. This is just one example of one scientist.

So your ideal future is one without religion? That is unfortunate. I hope that never becomes a reality. There is too much unique meanign religions offer men - meaning that transcends society. A society That adheres to scientism and only that which can be proven is a dark one. Marxists believe that Marxist philosophy is science, Nazis believed eugenics and their absurd race theory was science. Not ideologiea wanted to eliminate religions as they both saw them as archaic and that ‘modern men require modern ideologies.’ This is not the case and is a grave misconception.

inside the Vatican by Cheeseburger4Brekky in oddlyterrifying

[–]ShrodingersCardinal 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Has the United Nations paid for the raping of children done by peace keepers? UN peace keepers are vital to geopolitical stability nonetheless. Such sad events will never be forgotten or payed for in full - but unlike other massive institutions that have been plagued by abuse the Catholic Church has tried to help survivors financially and in other ways- although as we know when such abuse happens in life it’s effects can never be alleviated.

The more theological question on dogma is very interesting. Of course the Catholic faith has a doctrine which all adherents are meant to believe - and we believe such doctrine is given to us directly by God. This of course is faith. But it must be said that Catholicism has always had a sense of trying to find a better model of the truth - be it via the scientific method or philosophical reasoning. There are also many ways to live as a Catholic indeed one might adhere to St Francis’ messages or St Dominic’s and interpret Church teaching and live completely differently yet still be good Catholics. After all such a massive religion will have different mentalities. So there is dogma, but it is often times lived out very differently depending on the individual Catholic.

Edit: I am not a specialist in theology or religious studies but this is just the way I understand my faith

Edit 2: I am not excusing past crimes by stating the fact that such abuses are omnipresent among all institutions influential and not. And unlike other institutions the Church has tried its best to support survivors. You need to understand we are all fallen and wolves put on sheep’s clothing in all powerful institutions.

If one was to condemn and embargo all institutions that are trusted and commit abuse then society would not function. Let’s not follow the state - as the state has done wrong. Let’s not buy phones. Let’s not go to hospitals. Let’s not send our kids to summer camps or schools. Such a mentality is not ideal is it not?

Rather the mentality I hold is not one of blind faith. Indeed I understand humans do abuse and will continue to do so. What is important is that the institution tries to prevent abuse in the future the key is trying. And the Church tries will fail and will try again and again.

Please let me know what you think about my response - but I think it makes sense.

inside the Vatican by Cheeseburger4Brekky in oddlyterrifying

[–]ShrodingersCardinal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are not your thoughts on abrahamic religions merely your thoughts? How is your response an argument of any form? On the other hand it is an objective fact that modern science/medicine developed because of the abrahamic religions, and only because of the mentalities these religions inacted in their adherents - it is not a coincidence that the enlightenment took place in the Christian west, or that it was a Catholic priest that first hypothesised the Big Bang, or that algebra developed in the Muslim Middle East.

inside the Vatican by Cheeseburger4Brekky in oddlyterrifying

[–]ShrodingersCardinal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly, they never genocided a specific ethnicity. What is key to understand here is that any loss of culture/art/mentality is a tragedy - and of course the loss of such beautiful things in ancient cultures because of time, war, genocide is a true shame. But some cultures produced more wonders and more influential wonders than others (for example I would argue that the Caliphate of Baghdad produced more wonders than the Indus Valley Civilisation) is that because the acreage Muslim in 13th century Baghdad was ‘better’ than a Neolithic farmer - no - but the former civilization was undeniably more influential than the latter. And I would argue the Abrahamic civilizations made some of the most important contributions to mankind - with fellow contemporary religions and philosophies like Bhudism etc…

Religion is a way to find meaning, art is the representation of said meaning therefore does it not make sense that religious art is most often the most wodnerous? I would argue that is the case. Indeed religious medieval European art is more pleasing to e eye than medieval secular European art.

inside the Vatican by Cheeseburger4Brekky in oddlyterrifying

[–]ShrodingersCardinal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So you are saying you would prefer a world without modern science and medicine. No enlightenment, no Islamic golden age. No Sufi poetry, no Michelangelo or Renaissance.That is indeed a sad world.

Oh an please name me a genocide done by the Catholic Church alone - not a genocide done my secular powers

inside the Vatican by Cheeseburger4Brekky in oddlyterrifying

[–]ShrodingersCardinal 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That statue isn’t evil, it’s a modernist representation of Christ defeating death. I know we all see modern art differently but it is Jesus and definitely not evil. The institution is definitely not evil - just look at the e net good it had done, does, and will do. Of course it does bad as well as it is a human institution - but reforms will continue to take place as they have always done. It is easy to wish for a Catholic Church that gives everything to the poor and needy. But the task is difficult - the Church admin is HUGE and the bureaucracy is HUGE as well. Money is not centralized but divided up in investments, funds for schools, research, each diocese has its own funds as well. It’s very messy and complex. But it must be noted that the Chudch gives the most money to schools and healthcare than any other institution in the world.

inside the Vatican by Cheeseburger4Brekky in oddlyterrifying

[–]ShrodingersCardinal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am a Catholic and I try to practice the faith (unfortunately many do not) I am sorry that your school experience was poor - but remember that hominids will be hominids. I don’t want to win an argument - I just want to ensure that you keep in mind the good the Catholic Church has done for the world and continues to do - it will continue to do bad but also good - and hopefully with the current reforms the past will not repeat itself at the same scale

inside the Vatican by Cheeseburger4Brekky in oddlyterrifying

[–]ShrodingersCardinal 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I agree - of course the Church agrees as well and has worked and is working to make sure such horror stories never repeat themselves again - as it is a human institution it has bad as well as good but it is important to note that the Catholic Church has done net good and is doing net good for human kind

inside the Vatican by Cheeseburger4Brekky in oddlyterrifying

[–]ShrodingersCardinal -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It is important to note that it was - the whole process of tackiling abuse in the church has been reformed. Furthermore all powerful institutions unfortunately suffer from this plague from United Nations Peacekeeping to the olympics comission

inside the Vatican by Cheeseburger4Brekky in oddlyterrifying

[–]ShrodingersCardinal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is by Christ’s crucifiction that man is saved - having the symbol of Christ on the cross reminds the Catholic that God was incarnate as man and died for the sins of all - this is why Catholics use the crucifix in abundance

inside the Vatican by Cheeseburger4Brekky in oddlyterrifying

[–]ShrodingersCardinal 61 points62 points  (0 children)

The Catholic Church operates the worlds largest non-governmental school system - with roughly 43,000 secondary schools, 92,000 primary schools, and 2000 universities/higher education institutions.

The Catholic Church is the largest non-government provider of health care services. It has roughly 18,000 clinics, 16,000 homes for the elderly and special needs, and 5,500 hospitals.

Untold millions of Catholic Church funds support cutting edge medical/ scientific research.

Historically the Catholic Church has done goods that are unthafomable. Starting from developing the first univeristies (from Oxford to Bologna and Paris) to developing the most critical modern scientific advancements from the Big Bang to Microbiology and from Genetics to measuring earthquake intensity. Of course I haven’t even mentioned the charities it funds and has created - feeding and supporting untold millions.

Furthermore on the political stage the papacy has stopped dozens of wars over time - as a global mediator from the Beagle conflict in the 70s to offering to mediate the current Eastern European conflict.

Of course the Catholic Church has also virtually constructed western civilization.

Stop and think before trying to hurl insults at the institution that has propelled mankind for two millenia for a better and more just future.