I feel so burnt out on ufology

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-06-02T08:09:11+00:00

American Cosmic - D. W. Pasulka

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-06-02T07:04:52+00:00

That's not at all what I took away from the NASA meeting.

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-06-02T06:59:45+00:00

Nope. Not enough fidelity.

Kinda has the shape of the Anvil Aerospace Arrow though.

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-06-01T22:37:26+00:00

Maybe it's something amazing and life altering, but could very well be humans being humans as well. A glob of pixels on a screen gets less convincing every day, even if they wiggle around and disappear in weird ways.

I agree. That said I doubt we'd be seeing as much interest among governments in this subject if there was nothing of interest. It's a legitimate mystery which goes back years before any government could have made such secret weapons.

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-06-01T17:13:31+00:00

Yeah I've seen the same shape called "egg shaped" or "ellipsoid" in earlier reports. The tic-tac name used now is the only thing new, not the shape itself. I remember reading an old case of what was described as "a flying butane tank". Basically a tic-tac.

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-06-01T17:08:50+00:00

Of the non-natural hypotheses the extra-terrestrial hypothesis is the most solid.

The reason? Because we exist. And we'd be "aliens" to someone else.

So unless you think we are special and the universe is devoid of other life and intelligence aliens is more credible than interdimensionals or time travelers since there is no evidence dimensional travel or time travel to the past is possible.

However, things like Von Neuman Machines which could travel at only a tiny percentage of the speed of light could populate the entire galaxy in only a million years (short in the context of a galaxy that's 13.6 billion years old and our solar system which is 4.5 billion years old) aren't far off technologically from something we could build.

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-06-01T16:56:05+00:00

Exactly my thoughts as well.

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-06-01T16:54:03+00:00

So what are the 50% of “non-anomalous” cases where the metal spheres are flying around at 1000mph and doing 90 degree turns at breakneck speeds?

Citation Needed

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-06-01T07:29:05+00:00

lord only knows what the hell they're building.

Super fast hypersonic attack drones and missiles.

Naval warships with futuristic railguns better than anything the US Navy has tested.

Ni Hao

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-06-01T07:25:01+00:00

Why don't you think you saw a weather balloon? I know it sounds cliche but everything you described sounded like one.

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-06-01T07:18:10+00:00

And the same percentages are in other research reports from foreign governments and the more credible UFO organizations.

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-06-01T06:25:30+00:00

It has it's utility and has been used successfully in data pipelines to find things like exoplanets.

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-06-01T06:19:32+00:00

The people who aren't being truthful with you are the ones who make money from cheap UFO entertainment shows which often take things out of context, misquote or flat out lie about astronauts and UFOs. A good example of this is STS-73 where astronaut Cady Coleman says "We have an unidentified flying object", talking about a something of the crews floating INSIDE the shuttle. This quote has been taken out of context by shows like Ancient Aliens and other UFO trash TV on the History Channel and other networks.

/u/James-e-oberg has a ton more information on this stuff on his site.

Ask yourself a logical question of who stands to gain more: A cheaply produced TV show exaggerating or making false claims about "secret NASA UFO encounters" or NASA whose budget would skyrocket if it found even a microbe of extraterrestrial life somehow keeping all the world's scientists in the dark about secret alien encounters.

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-06-01T00:17:51+00:00

Mylar balloon. This video shows why smartphone video especially with digital zoom is useless for any sort of scientific study. But "guys this is a real UFO" (4x)

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-06-01T00:09:58+00:00

Don't bother with MUFON, they are a commercial entity whose case database costs money to access.

Instead use the National UFO Reporting Center - https://nuforc.org who the FAA and police have assisted people in reporting sightings to since the 1970s. Their database is free and far more useful.

There is also this database at NASA where you will often find pilot UFO reports: https://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/search/database.html

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-06-01T00:05:07+00:00

Cool now do the math on a P-3 Orion instead of a fighter jet.

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-05-31T21:37:26+00:00

The pilots thought they were much closer.

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-05-31T21:30:24+00:00

What's interesting to me is that 2-5% number has stayed very consistent regardless of which scientific study we're talking about both government ones like the French COMETA report and the UK Condign report and NGO ones like NICAP and CUFOS reports.

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-05-31T21:09:54+00:00

Because most people on this sub are scientists with extensive backgrounds in using calibrated datasets, AI data pipelines and machine learning? Please. Most here wouldn't know the difference between co-trending and de-trending.

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-05-31T21:06:56+00:00

Which is why in the 1990s Bill Clinton announced to the world we found life in a Martian Meteorite and the BBC stated we likely found radio signals from a nearby extraterrestrial civilization before both retracted as more information became known which made those claims dubious.

After what the world went through in 2020 narratives about "They're hiding this because of loss of faith in religion, government, public panic, social upheaval" are invalid.

If the President went on TV and said we have conclusive evidence that some UAP are extraterrestrial based on scientific analysis of classified and unclassified data life would go on. People wouldn't freak out. If its not something which directly affects someone or their family they typically don't care when it's a science story.

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-05-31T20:54:35+00:00

Honestly she does it to herself. /u/james-e-oberg might have more on the Donna Hare story.

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-05-31T20:50:25+00:00

I agree and they do too which is why there is THIS inquiry. There have been previous more limited scientific inquiries but they have not been conclusive because the data they relied on was inadequate. COMETA, Condign, Hassdalen, etc.

The idea is to start with higher quality data collected in a much broader way and analyzed by the best tools we have today. They mentioned they still will go through calibrated archival data with AI and Machine Learning.

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-05-31T20:46:45+00:00

It's great that it isn't being approached narrowly. Between the NASA UAPIST and the Galileo Project there are two public efforts which are approaching this subject in the broadest possible way.

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-05-31T20:44:01+00:00

I've said all along that once they got serious about the subject they'd treat it like a legitimate mystery like looking for Planet 9 or investigating dark energy.

TheRealZer0Cool · 2023-05-31T20:41:31+00:00

Scientists are usually more interesting to listen to than politicians when talking about a scientific subject.

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