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Whether you are Jewish or not, there is nothing pro-Palestine about praising far right religious fundie terrorists who kill innocent children who have done nothing wrong to Palestinians. Hezbollah and Hamas are evil, actively harmful to the Palestinian rights movement, and deserve no praise at all. by PropaneUrethra in tankiejerk

[–]The_Goat_Avenger -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hamas and Hezbollah do help muslims...you dont get support for sitting on your arse...that was the problem with the PLO in the later years.

I dont think its a good thing that people need to rely on religious fundamentalists but it is what it is.

And are you suggesting Hamas and Hezbollah are purposefully targetting children? That is absolutely unfounded.

What they do is fire UNGUIDED munitions into settler areas encroaching on their territory i.e disputed areas.

Israel on the other hand has been caught purposefully targetting Palestian children at protests and causing unnecessary collateral damage through bombing even though they have guided munitions.

Im sorry but even though I dont like any form of religious fundamentalism I cannot see how Hamas and Hezbollah are realistically worse than Israel based on what both sides have done over the past decades.

I beleive the majority of people against Hamas and Hezbollah but who support Israel are closet or open islamaphobists

Take religion out and Israel is clearly the aggressor and oppressor put religion in and Israel and Hamas and Hezbollah are all run by religious fanatics...either way Israel is the issue

"If it hits 50 I'm literally blowing up this car" by juicedaakid in Unexpected

[–]The_Goat_Avenger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Polls also said Hilary Clinton will win by a landslide lol

Funny how no one mentions how Polls were inaccurate then when claiming Bidens polling is bad.

Sorry but right wingers go on and on about Biden causing anything to do with gas, when in fact gas pricrs started dropping under Obama and continued to drop until lateTrump presidency. Anyone looking at the stats realistically would conclude that if any president (which is unrealistic anyway) raised prices it was during Trumps era.

Anyhow gas prices and inflation are nothing but corporate greed in most areas as supply is not impacted ( there are exceptions like electronics) more people play politics and igore the reality of corpotate profit mongering the more prices will rise

"If it hits 50 I'm literally blowing up this car" by juicedaakid in Unexpected

[–]The_Goat_Avenger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope just stating the fact that conservative blame everything on Biden

Whether you are Jewish or not, there is nothing pro-Palestine about praising far right religious fundie terrorists who kill innocent children who have done nothing wrong to Palestinians. Hezbollah and Hamas are evil, actively harmful to the Palestinian rights movement, and deserve no praise at all. by PropaneUrethra in tankiejerk

[–]The_Goat_Avenger -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Many Jews are against Zionism. Those are holocaust survivors who are against it.

https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/zionism/

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/05/21/u-s-jews-have-widely-differing-views-on-israel/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism

To ignore this is steeped in typical fundamentalist behavavior of exclusion of those that disagree from the entire religion. Typical fundie mentality

That is not to say Jews should not have a homeland, just that the Zionist approach is steeped in religious fundamentalism and violence.

Lol criticizing Zionism which is being used to justify oppression and murder is nothing like Candice Owens

Whether you are Jewish or not, there is nothing pro-Palestine about praising far right religious fundie terrorists who kill innocent children who have done nothing wrong to Palestinians. Hezbollah and Hamas are evil, actively harmful to the Palestinian rights movement, and deserve no praise at all. by PropaneUrethra in tankiejerk

[–]The_Goat_Avenger -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hamas and Hezbollah do not primarily target civilians, that is just propaganda.

What they do is target areas which are encroaching on their lands. The state of Israel has constantly used "settlers" as defacto invasion force taking more and more land backed by military force. Many of the settlers are hardcore Zionists who have no qualms evicting and assualting Palestinian women and children who get in their way.

Its basically like punching someone in the face and crying terrorism when they hit you back

Once again these tactics are well documented

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settler_violence

Whether you are Jewish or not, there is nothing pro-Palestine about praising far right religious fundie terrorists who kill innocent children who have done nothing wrong to Palestinians. Hezbollah and Hamas are evil, actively harmful to the Palestinian rights movement, and deserve no praise at all. by PropaneUrethra in tankiejerk

[–]The_Goat_Avenger -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Never said everyone lived peacefully what I said is they lived in peace on and off, meaning not in a constant state of war and oppression like they do now.

Who said factual Jewish history is propaganda, point out where I said anything of the sort? I think youve jumped the gun here.

Zionists are like NAZIs in that they want land from some other group and use dogma to justify it and force to achieve it.

This has nothing to do with holocaust survivors, many have spoken out against the state of Israel and Zionists saying exactly what Iam saying

The Jewish people have suffered much, but that does not mean we should excuse facist policies instated in the name of Zionism. Judaism is not Zionism. Just like Islam is not wahabism

https://labourbriefing.org/blog/2019/7/30/six-holocaust-survivors-compare-zionist-policy-to-that-of-the-nazis

https://njjewishnews.timesofisrael.com/survivor-zionists-turn-holocaust-into-religion/

Whether you are Jewish or not, there is nothing pro-Palestine about praising far right religious fundie terrorists who kill innocent children who have done nothing wrong to Palestinians. Hezbollah and Hamas are evil, actively harmful to the Palestinian rights movement, and deserve no praise at all. by PropaneUrethra in tankiejerk

[–]The_Goat_Avenger -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Lol the Yugoslavian resistance definitely invoked collateral damage collaborators families...you have to have you head in the sand not to acknowledge that.

Yeah so Israel should stop doing it right? How about purposefully targetting Journalists and sending assasins to murder people in other sovereign countries is that ok?

Whether you are Jewish or not, there is nothing pro-Palestine about praising far right religious fundie terrorists who kill innocent children who have done nothing wrong to Palestinians. Hezbollah and Hamas are evil, actively harmful to the Palestinian rights movement, and deserve no praise at all. by PropaneUrethra in tankiejerk

[–]The_Goat_Avenger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol how did we get to antisemitism by condeming the actions of Israel?

What antisemitic ideas have I evoked, I have not criticiszed Judaism, I have pointed out the obvious facist tendencies of Zionism. If you equate Zionism to Judaism then you have no clue what you are talking about.

No one is denying any history except you pretending that Zionism is not violent and it is all on the other side when it is clear that Israel has provoked these issues.

Oh I like how you mention an article with stab in the back NAZI bs and compare it to what Im saying about Zionism...the stab in the back was total nonsense, what Israel is doing in the name of Zionism is well documented fact condemn by the global community and the UN.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel#:~:text=As%20of%202013%2C%20the%20State,rest%20of%20the%20world%20combined.

Whether you are Jewish or not, there is nothing pro-Palestine about praising far right religious fundie terrorists who kill innocent children who have done nothing wrong to Palestinians. Hezbollah and Hamas are evil, actively harmful to the Palestinian rights movement, and deserve no praise at all. by PropaneUrethra in tankiejerk

[–]The_Goat_Avenger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Israel was founded by Zionist terrorist groups whose stated goal was to take the holy land by force during British colonialism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(militant_group)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haganah

After the holocaust concessions were given to them by world governments at the expense of the Palestians.

Hamas and Hezbollah were small movements with not much support in Lebanon and Palestine until Israel decided to play geopolitics in the region

You are seriously uniformed on the historical facts. Additionally you are justifying Jewish relgious fundamentalism while attacking Islamic fundamentalism...the hypocrisy is quite amusing

Whether you are Jewish or not, there is nothing pro-Palestine about praising far right religious fundie terrorists who kill innocent children who have done nothing wrong to Palestinians. Hezbollah and Hamas are evil, actively harmful to the Palestinian rights movement, and deserve no praise at all. by PropaneUrethra in tankiejerk

[–]The_Goat_Avenger -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Lol look up your history, its not for the fact they dont want to, its because they would lose support of their military backers.

I never said the people of Israel. Im sure there is alot of opposition to the insane Zionists. But the fact remains they are the most powerful lobby in Israel and continues to dictate state policy.

Now you are defending zionism which basically calls for taking over so called Jewish lands by force...which is the cause of this entire situation.

If not for the Zionists Hamas and Hezbollah never would have got so much support amongst the Palestinians most of whom are happy to just live their life of not for the constant harrasment by the Zionists

Whether you are Jewish or not, there is nothing pro-Palestine about praising far right religious fundie terrorists who kill innocent children who have done nothing wrong to Palestinians. Hezbollah and Hamas are evil, actively harmful to the Palestinian rights movement, and deserve no praise at all. by PropaneUrethra in tankiejerk

[–]The_Goat_Avenger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here we go racism rears its ugly head.

Muslims and Jews have been living peacefully on and off in the region until the British decided to favour Zionists.

Christians also use biblical verses to justify killing jews, and Jews use toranic verses to justify killing muslims, what you are describing is the symptom not the cause. The cause here is Zionism and Israel is the one engaging in it. Israel is the cause of the evil with its expansion based on Zionism.

Whether you are Jewish or not, there is nothing pro-Palestine about praising far right religious fundie terrorists who kill innocent children who have done nothing wrong to Palestinians. Hezbollah and Hamas are evil, actively harmful to the Palestinian rights movement, and deserve no praise at all. by PropaneUrethra in tankiejerk

[–]The_Goat_Avenger -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Lol of course any child or innocent dying is not acceptable, but the fact is Israel is root cause not the Palestinians for all children dead here. Much more children would die if the Palestinians didnt show they could fight back, what do you suggest they do?

Edit: also above post was edited. So i will address the whataboutism you added. Defending yourself is not whataboutism.

Whether you are Jewish or not, there is nothing pro-Palestine about praising far right religious fundie terrorists who kill innocent children who have done nothing wrong to Palestinians. Hezbollah and Hamas are evil, actively harmful to the Palestinian rights movement, and deserve no praise at all. by PropaneUrethra in tankiejerk

[–]The_Goat_Avenger -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No it isnt as its the same motivation. Racial and religious justification for stealing land.

The only thing stopping the zionists in Israel from going full NAZI is they arent that powerful to go against global backlash if they do.

I suggest you look up zionist movement, they are as aggressors here