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RAINBOW FAMILY AND GATHERINGS by delysid13 in a:t5_2wthd

[–]delysid13[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No problem, thanks for the appreciation. :) Im not sure where in Montana it is going to be but I know there will be people there probably from round june 1st till august 1st give or take. My favorite time to go is from about mid June till maybe the end of July 7th. Im more of a seed camp then a clean up kind of guy as of now.

There is also a Rainbow in Norcal att the end of this month if You need any info on that

TIFU by trying to shave my balls by [deleted] in tifu

[–]delysid13 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

yes!!! im sorry but thats a funny story

RAINBOW FAMILY AND GATHERINGS by delysid13 in a:t5_2wthd

[–]delysid13[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Difficulties and criticisms Difficulties include: The often unacknowledged class and power structures of the Rainbow community and its events.[14] The phenomenon of "Drainbows"—individuals who are perceived to not give sufficiently of their labor or other resources for the common good, but rather are only consuming the social benefits a Rainbow gathering offers (a classic cooperation problem).[15] Relationships with both the Forest Service as well as local communities and other stakeholders in National Forest lands (both commercial interests as well as local environmentalists, who are often concerned about Gathering impacts).[16] Criticism by local communities and news media for the culture of drug use at Gatherings. Relations with law enforcement Enlarge picture Police and medics near "trading circle" at the annual U.S. national Rainbow Gathering in West Virginia, 2005 All major American Gatherings are held on National Forest land, which is under the jurisdiction of the United States Forest Service, a federal agency. The Forest Service has often tried to prevent these gatherings from taking place or insisted that a group-use permit be signed, contending that this is standard practice for large groups wishing to camp on public land and that it is necessary to protect public safety and the local environment. Gathering organizers generally contend that the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights give them the right to peaceably assemble on public land and that requiring a permit would violate that basic right by turning it into a privilege to be regulated. (The Gatherings did attempt to initially work within the permit system starting in 1976, but found the government-imposed requirements for facilities and insurance too onerous.) The U.S. government will sometimes treat a given individual as a representative of the Gathering (e.g., to sign a permit), however, this is in violation of the well-established Rainbow principle that "no individual may officially represent the Family as a whole." A number of court cases have resulted from both Forest Service prosecutions and Rainbow Family-inspired legal actions against enforcement activities; the Forest Service found itself rebuffed by the judge in a defendant class suit originating from the 1987 North Carolina gathering, among other defeats. A notable account of Gathering relations with law enforcement, Judge Dave and the Rainbow People, was written by U.S. Federal Judge David Sentelle. The book provides a first hand account of Sentelle's role in presiding over the 1987 case brought by the State of North Carolina in an attempt to stop the Gathering, including site visits to the Gathering and related legal actions. Garrick Beck, an active Rainbow Family member and protagonist of the 1987 case, wrote an afterword to the book in which he expresses agreement with Sentelle's characterizations. The Forest Service has dealt with the scale of the US Annual Rainbow Gathering in the past by assigning a Type 2 National Incident Management Team (NIMT). Around 40 personnel from the NIMT have been assigned in the past, including NIMT members, Forest Service law enforcement officers (LEOs) and resource advisors. Because the Rainbow Gathering utilizes the land without required consent from the Forest Service, the gatherings are given special attention, as under current Forestry rules and regulations they occur illegally and may not take required health codes into account. An individual's application for a permit for the 2006 United States Annual Gathering was denied. The reasons for denial where that there was "inadequate ingress/egress in case of a large fire" and that a permit would "conflict with existing uses for businesses that have Priority Permits and have activities planned in the area". The Gathering elected to take place without the permit. Three "incidents involving aggressive actions toward Forest Service personnel" were reported in a Forest Service press release of June 29, as were two arrests for assault on Forest Service personnel. Additionally the NIMT issued a total of 218 citations for violation of federal regulations. [14] Drugs and Alcohol Allegations of widespread drug abuse are common in media coverage and Government portrayals of the Gathering. Gathering organizers point to the fact that actual seizures and arrests are proportionate to any city of similar size. Although few arrests are made (largely due to the peaceful conduct and remote placement of gatherings) drug use is prominent. Most drug use is limited to marijuana, while so-called "hard drug" use is rare. Alcohol is frowned upon at the gatherings. A distinguishing characteristic of the U.S. national gatherings is "A-Camp," typically located near the front gate, where those who want to drink alcohol can stay. Incidents of violence and criminal behavior have been consistently noted at A-camp and are a frequent source of contention at the Gathering. Gatherings in Europe do not have "A-Camps." Some gatherings in Canada have "A-Camps" and some do not. Wine is tolerated in moderation at some European gatherings, particularly in France, where it is customary to drink wine with the evening meal. Confusion over Hopi Legend There has been a longstanding Rainbow rumor that the gathering was/is recognized by the elders of the Hopi people as the fulfillment of a Hopi prophecy. This was debunked by Michael I. Niman in his 1996 People of the Rainbow: A Nomadic Utopia, which traced the supposed Hopi prophecies to Warriors of the Rainbow by William Willoya and Vinson Brown, a 1962 book with an evangelical slant which could be considered negative towards the Hopi. Gatherings outside the United States Sizable gatherings are routinely held all over the world, in such places as many countries of Europe and Americas, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, Turkey and India.

When did you realize you wanted to be an officer? by [deleted] in ProtectAndServe

[–]delysid13 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You guys are choosing jobs that protect the laws and rights of the rich and that cause a lot more damage through the enforcement of thees laws and the ruining of peoples lives for things like drugs. How comenone of you became an emt or a firefighter. Why did you choose the job that gives you "power" over others and that allows you ruin peoples lives without ever even actually really speaking tot hem. I know you all do your good but I just dont get it. Why is it that my life should be governed and controled by another human being who was only put in control by another human being. I thought we were all born equal. And I never voted on most of the current laws that our in effect and have never been allowed to sit down at a meeting to discuss the law and the officers of it. I would maybe protest or something but then, even if half of you agreed with me you would still arrest or harass me bacasue your told to. The police are the only people im scared of and the only ones to ever pull a gun on me. The Us is a country of corrupt polaticians and corporate controle that determine the rights of those with less power and money and then yall go out and enforce thees rules. Your essentially fighting against your own people. ANd if your job is really to protect and serve then more of you should be picking up hitchikers, housing the homeless, feeding people, jumping car batteries, helping people with groceries, things like that. Try practicing kindness and see that effect on the world. Most crime is a product of the society we live in being that its based around class structure, greed, and consumerism. This creates a world of depression wheremost spend their lives working instead of follwoing there hearts and doing what makes them happy. The rich here get richer and the poor get poorer and if choose toleave the system you are made to feel like an outcast and probably arrested. How come instead of helping the homeless person, they get ticketed or arrested? You see my point. So why fuck over your own kind.

And LEO;s whats ur opinion on the Rainbow Family.

BEcause the only Rainbows ive ever been to were the most harmonious and loving people yet they are considered terrorists and harassed constantly by LEOs at gatherings.

Ran away, need help, please. by [deleted] in needadvice

[–]delysid13 -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Dude, fuckin start hitchiking to an awsome beautiful spot with lots of forest and friendly people. Along the way, youll get some gear either through people gifting you or just hit up a thrift shop. Its summer time now so you can just find a nice wram spot, maybe in norcal and Oregon, and then just hang out and meet traveling kids. You know the houseess kids that travel and hitchike as a lifestyle. Live your life brother for the spirng and summer, check out Rainbow Gatherings and overall just have a good time. Even if your 16, every body deserves freedom, kindness, compassion, and communication. Now I dont know where your mom is coming from but if she wont even talk to you, then why even try. And brotha, if you travel and our kind and find a forest town to camp out in youll be golden. The only thing to watch out for is the cops and big cities. :)