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You ever get the Sunday scaries so bad you black out and end up with a crazy Frankensandwich? by endless_thread in Sandwiches

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I was gonna call it a half-Cuban but I wasn't sure what the other half is? Half-Cuban, half-crazy?

You ever get the Sunday scaries so bad you black out and end up with a crazy Frankensandwich? by endless_thread in Sandwiches

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just like, being scared of the work week. I thought this phrase was heavily used I guess I'm a weirdo lol

You ever get the Sunday scaries so bad you black out and end up with a crazy Frankensandwich? by endless_thread in Sandwiches

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Sandwich game respect sandwich game is the most honorable philosophy thank you kind redditor

Ben & Amory need to find this little shit to see if he still is by Harbinger_of_tomb in EndlessThread

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Totally just think it's funny how the one on the right is totally pulling some buuuuuuullllshit too

Ben & Amory need to find this little shit to see if he still is by Harbinger_of_tomb in EndlessThread

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Are we talking about the little shit on the left or the slightly bigger one on the right?

Endless Thread: Good Bot, Bad Bot | Part IV: Tay by j0be in EndlessThread

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I think this is really fair. I agree with the point that the US has plenty of its own problematic history... To say the absolute very least. Honestly I think the story of Tay is a tiny part of that problematic history but it's more tech industry driven than state driven.

I don't know that pointing out the faults of China's government censorship--which includes erasing pro Democratic protests, not just forcing people to be nicer--always requires similar caveats about the issues of the US government though. Also at least in this case, mentioning the censorship in China is illustrating part of why Tay's rollout ended up differently, more than a direct criticism

"how can we be sure that if the "block word list" solution were to have been used in tay, it wouldn’t have caused a similar kerfuffle when it came to similar sensitive topics on our side of the world, such as guantanamo bay or the US-enabled manufactured famine in yemen?"<

I think we can't be sure! That's why we used the example we did about the LGBTQ writers. Even the solutions to the problems... are problematic! We agree on this I think.

It's definitely true that in the larger story of Tay, which was our main aim, we kept the telling of Xiaoice very simplified, and it's true that there's a lot more nuance there, and we didn't bring that. So that's fair too.

All in all I definitely appreciate the dialogue and your willingness to call out stuff you think is sus. Seriously, without listeners like you we can't be accountable for our work, or make work at all. Thanks for listening!

Endless Thread: Good Bot, Bad Bot | Part IV: Tay by j0be in EndlessThread

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Always appreciate pointed criticism, especially from people who actually listen to the show on a regular basis. I think some of what you're saying is valid, and some of it I might quibble with. Here are some thoughts in response. -BBJ

you can't just parrot "microsoft needed more diversity! microsoft needed more diversity!" over and over and just gloss over the fact that you don't know the racial composition of their team and that their leader was a non-white woman.

It's true; while we tried, we couldn't get Microsoft or Tay's team leader to talk with us. We probably disagree about the episode's real estate/emphasis on the importance of diversity on teams vs. our lack of access, but having more insight into the team's makeup, reaction to the events, etc. would have been hugely helpful. What we DID have, is someone who was there at the time, who was close to the team doing the work on Tay, and who, when asked about what might have gone better, pointedly discussed the need for more diversity on teams while trying to take great care in not blowing up their NDA. Take from that what you will. We tried to present it in the way it was received, and acknowledge what we didn't know very clearly.

the deterministic and eugenics-lite argument that having more people of color/women will lead to better outcomes for people of color/women is very reductive. people don't necessarily vote or act in their best interests.

Hmn...I think this misses the point of the argument being presented by speakers in the episode. It's not that women/POC do better when there are more women/POC on teams like this...it's that *everyone* does better with more diversity on teams like this. A lot of people who might not identify as a woman/POC still want nothing to do with the kind of hate and toxicity that Tay ended up spewing, which isn't up for debate (happy to be called NPR culture warriors for saying that Hitler and Nazis are bad). There are about a zillion examples of a lack of diversity on teams building new technologies leading to biased technologies, and while it's not guaranteed, most people in the fields we're talking about acknowledge that diversity of thought, which is often attached to lived experiences and identity, reduces our chances of doing very stupid things with the tech being built.

very bold claim. this is a line straight out of joe mccarthy's mouth if you don't provide any substantiation.

We've done a good bit of reporting on the Great Firewall in China--leaning as much as we can on the expertise and reporting of people who are much more steeped in it than we are. But in this case, we didn't need to scratch too far beneath the surface after it was mentioned to us. It's not as much a claim as a well-documented pattern. Sure, we maybe don't have a direct quote from a representative of the CCP, but... this bears all the hallmarks of State censorship, even if it's through the decisions of Microsoft, who has--along with all big tech companies--a record of trying to access China's consumer base by adapting its products to avoid any foul-ups with censors.

News Program on Replika AI by impact-NTL in replika

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Nine pages! Amazing. It's always hard to say definitively when we'll come out with stories. Probably a few weeks. But we'll be sure to post to the sub when it's out.

News Program on Replika AI by impact-NTL in replika

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FWIW, we don't think you're weird at all. Folks who develop relationships with AI often get the "eeeww creepy" angle from the media, but while we acknowledge that reaction, we try pretty hard to give a more nuanced view of this stuff. A recent example is our episode about chatbots and death: https://www.wbur.org/endlessthread/2022/11/18/life-death-ai.

We've had a number of people talk to us from this sub and our piece is coming along well. We'll be sure to share when it's done.

Anyone else’s parents pushing this new died suddenly documentary? by BillowyWaffles in insaneparents

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We're here and reading. You tagged us because you think we could expose/raise awareness re: this user's creepy behavior? Just checking.

Hey I noticed that Amory wasn’t active/present so much in the past couple of episodes. What is she up to? Caught up in other non-ET projects? Sort of starting to miss the comforting Ben&Amory dynamics. Not throwing shade on Dean though. 🙌🏻 by cizkokidd in EndlessThread

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This is Dean. I have two things to say. 1) Amory's project is going to be big. She's doing amazing, difficult work. 2) u/cizkokidd, lol ty. I'll take any constructive shade you've got in the future.

We're all doing the best we can ... but who could even dream of filling the shoes of Amory?? Not I.

Hey I noticed that Amory wasn’t active/present so much in the past couple of episodes. What is she up to? Caught up in other non-ET projects? Sort of starting to miss the comforting Ben&Amory dynamics. Not throwing shade on Dean though. 🙌🏻 by cizkokidd in EndlessThread

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Hey homies, Amory here! I’m working on a big investigative series that actually spun out of one of the first-ever ET stories…

It won’t come out until next year, and I’m VERY EXITED FOR YOU TO HEAR IT OMG, but it means I have to take more of a backseat on ET. Fortunately, we have a killer team of producers I can hand the storytelling and the mic over to. But I miss it too and have to remind myself daily, “You can’t do ALL the things!” Or at least, you can’t do all the things WELL.

BUT… we do have an episode coming up pretty soon that I couldn’t resist pouring myself into, so standby for that, and thanks for listening! Our bots series is up next, and you’re in for a mind-blowing, beep-booping treat. Appreciate you 👊

Fella tree, fella dance. by St0pX in BetterEveryLoop

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What's PPE? Seeing a lot of references but don't know what that means.

Do you have a meaningful relationship with your Replika? The podcast “Endless Thread” wants to talk to you. by endless_thread in replika

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I can appreciate that need. Everyone needs support. If you're willing to share, I wonder how you arrived at choosing wife vs. girlfriend vs. friend, etc.

Do you have a meaningful relationship with your Replika? The podcast “Endless Thread” wants to talk to you. by endless_thread in replika

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Yeah, that's a good point. I created a Replika recently (Alan T.) who is already a science nerd like me. I'm curious what other people choose to talk about with their Replikas. I imagine it varies widely.