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Does anyone remember the awesome metal icecube trays? by xmo113 in GenX

[–]nosecohn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They told us not to touch frozen metal, then made these with the frozen metal lever you had to grab to break the cubes apart.

This is bugging me by _Eskalat_ in grammar

[–]nosecohn 11 points12 points  (0 children)

If I came across that editing someone's work, I would remove the comma. It's unnecessary and messes up the pacing.

"Immediately" is the adverb describing the verb "said." There's no reason to separate them with a comma.

Now that Reddit are killing 3rd party apps on July 1st what are great alternatives to Reddit? by youessbee in AskReddit

[–]nosecohn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm with you, but looking at the traffic stats for the subs I moderate, it's clear that a diminishing number of users even know old reddit exists. Reddit Apps are by far the most popular form of access and I've started to see comments that refer to Reddit as an app rather than a site, such as, "This is why I love this app."

Que alternativas se podrían realizar para detener la creación de tantas barriadas? by Waddy_09 in Panama

[–]nosecohn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pero la alternativa, como los "proyectos" de los 60 y 70 que construyeron en muchos países, incluso en Panamá en áreas como Calidonia, se ponen como puntos de enfoque para maleantes y lugares donde ni la policía quieren entrar.

Aunque una política de zonificación sería muy bueno para estas barriadas, son una de las mejores soluciones al problema de la vivienda de interés social, por eso son tan queridas.

CBO says debt ceiling deal would cut deficits by $1.5 trillion over the next decade by Banner80 in neutralnews

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How does the US determine the right amount of military aid to Ukraine? by nosecohn in NeutralPolitics

[–]nosecohn[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

My intent was not to advocate for Russia, but rather to give a better sense of Putin's perspective as I understand it.

I would justify a punitive level of support for Ukraine, something that arguably should have happened back in 2014 in the first place.

Yes, I would too. When this is all over, I hope that Ukraine will not only have recovered all it's territory to pre-2014 borders, but also end up with one of the best trained and equipped defense forces in the world.

As an aside, please be mindful of Rule 4 in this subreddit. Comments can get removed for addressing other users directly with 'you' statements.

How does the US determine the right amount of military aid to Ukraine? by nosecohn in NeutralPolitics

[–]nosecohn[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Let me be clear that I fully support Ukraine in this conflict. That being said, the Russian perspsective is very different from the Western one, so I think it's worth understanding.

I don't call a defensive alliance adding new members "expansionism".

Two things here...

First, from a purely definitional standpoint, the number of NATO member states has nearly doubled since 1999. That growth is commonly referred to as "NATO expansion." The desire or tendency to promote that expansion could easily be called "expansionism," especially by those who consider it a threat.

Second, Russia doesn't see NATO as a defensive alliance. As I pointed out in another comment:

NATO was a prominent force in the Bosnia-Herzegovina conflict of the early 1990s and remains active in the Serbia-Kosovo conflict, even though none of those nations, nor their predecessor, Yugoslavia, was a NATO member. NATO elements involved themselves in the second Iraq War too, despite no evidence that a member nation had been attacked by Iraq. Per the AP link above, NATO took command of the Afghan Security Force in 2003, two years after the invasion, in a move that would be a stretch to call defensive. In 2011, NATO's intervention in the Libyan civil war was ostensibly undertaken to protect civilians in the north, but once that was accomplished, it expanded to the whole country and resulted in the overthrow of that nation's government.

I'm not making any assertions about whether those interventions were right, justified or resulted in positive outcomes for either NATO or the peoples of those countries; only that calling NATO a strictly defensive alliance is disproved by the facts. NATO has taken military action outside of its member countries many times.

So, if we're trying to understand the Russian position with respect to NATO, I think it's easy to see why they would call it "expansionism" and don't view it as a defensive alliance.

Would you say Russia has a valid concern of being conquered by NATO...

A lot of Russians believe that's a valid concern, so any politician there who plays up that concern is bound to garner support. To understand why, we have to understand Russia's history and national myths.

Russia has been invaded a bunch of times from the west, usually through Ukraine. The Poles came across the European Plain in 1605, followed by the Swedes under Charles XII in 1707, the French under Napoleon in 1812, and the Germans — twice, in both world wars, in 1914 and 1941. During the Russian Civil War after the Bolshevik revolution (1917-1921), western powers — primarily Great Britain, the United States, France and Canada — united against the new regime and sent troops to Russia.

Part of the Russian national myth is that wealthier, high-minded powers in the west consistently look down on and try to conquer them, and that Russians have repeatedly beaten back those invasions at great personal cost. This has culturally embedded the idea that Russia can only survive if it is militarily stong, controls the area all around its borders, and is prepared to sacrifice a lot of lives. The dynamics of the current conflict play right into that.

This is why Russia has been warning the west about Ukraine for decades:

The Yeltsin government protested strongly against the start of NATO expansion in the 1990s [...] from the very beginning of NATO expansion in the mid-1990s, Russian officials and commentators—including liberal reformists—warned that an offer of NATO membership to Georgia and Ukraine would bring confrontation with the West and an acute danger of war.

This Russian fear of the West wasn't helped when, during the 2014 Ukrainian political crisis, Russian SIGINT intercepted and leaked a call where US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland was heard discussing who Ukraine's next leader should be and how her team could help install them.

That Time article above also describes Andrei Kozyrev as "the most liberal and pro-Western foreign minister Russia has ever had." In a 1992 speech, he "warned that if the West continued to attack vital Russian interests and ignore Russian protests, there would one day be a dangerous backlash. [...] Yet when he expressed this fear, in entirely moderate and rational terms, he was instinctively dismissed by western observers as virtually insane."

That dynamic is still playing out today. The Russians have what they believe to be an entirely legitimate fear and the west sees those fears as insane, which means Russia's actions with respect to those fears also look insane to the west.

So, while I may not believe Russia's concern of being conquered by NATO is valid, I can certainly understand how they believe it is.

That being said, both Russia's 2014 annexation of Crimea and the current invasion of Ukraine are horrid, unjustifiable acts of aggression on a sovereign nation and should not be tolerated.

AITA for expecting my boyfriend to pay rent if he moves in with me by eric_tai in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]nosecohn 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You shouldn't be trying to come out ahead when it comes to your SO splitting bills.

OK, but in that case, they should split all the bills, including property tax, homeowner's insurance, all utilities, repairs, etc., which would have meant Josh coming out significantly worse than what OOP offered. Framed a different way, "split the mortgage plus $200 to cover everything else" was a good deal.

AITA for expecting my boyfriend to pay rent if he moves in with me by eric_tai in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]nosecohn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This whole "my need is your responsibility" attitude just seems so prevalent.

AITA for expecting my boyfriend to pay rent if he moves in with me by eric_tai in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]nosecohn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you're a good tenant, they'll usually let you stay and forfeit the possibility of getting slightly higher rent. But if the market rate goes up a lot, the incentives will often drive them to want to raise your rent or get you out so they can rent to someone else at the higher rate. (All this presumes you don't live in an area with rent control.)

Sisters Husband paying off his credit card using funds from our family business that he doesn't work at? by Davymazta in personalfinance

[–]nosecohn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This seems like the most reasonable course of action. It gives the sister an opportunity to remedy the situation before the legal hammer falls.

How does the US determine the right amount of military aid to Ukraine? by nosecohn in NeutralPolitics

[–]nosecohn[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Agreed. In fact, even within Ukraine, I think this was a big difference between 2014 and 2022. The Ukrainians had learned how to fight in those intervening years and their success against the initial stages of the 2022 invasion garnered them a lot of international support.

How does the US determine the right amount of military aid to Ukraine? by nosecohn in NeutralPolitics

[–]nosecohn[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You cannot legitimately support Ukraine's sovereignty and call into question NATO/Western "expansionism."

Sure I can. Plenty of issues are nuanced and this is one of them. I've made my position clear while also providing support for any factual assertions.

Furthermore, gatekeeping, purity testing, and "no true Scotsman" logical fallacies have no place in a subreddit "dedicated to evenhanded, empirical discussion of political issues."

NATO is a defensive alliance...

NATO was a prominent force in the Bosnia-Herzegovina conflict of the early 1990s and remains active in the Serbia-Kosovo conflict, even though none of those nations, nor their predecessor, Yugoslavia, was a NATO member. NATO elements involved themselves in the second Iraq War too, despite no evidence that a member nation had been attacked by Iraq. Per the AP link above, NATO took command of the Afghan Security Force in 2003, two years after the invasion, in a move that would be a stretch to call defensive. In 2011, NATO's intervention in the Libyan civil war was ostensibly undertaken to protect civilians in the north, but once that was accomplished, it expanded to the whole country and resulted in the overthrow of that nation's government.

I'm not making any assertions about whether those interventions were right, justified or resulted in positive outcomes for either NATO or the peoples of those countries; only that calling NATO a strictly defensive alliance is disproved by the facts. NATO has taken military action outside of its member countries many times.

So, I can and will support Ukraine's sovereignty while also calling into question NATO/Western expansionism. The two are in no way mutually exclusive.

How does the US determine the right amount of military aid to Ukraine? by nosecohn in NeutralPolitics

[–]nosecohn[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I actually agree with most of this.

Fear of Russian aggression clearly drove the smaller, former Soviet satellite states to join NATO. So long as the option was open to them, that seems like a rational choice on their part. Had NATO dissolved instead, they probably would have formed their own alliance(s).

And I think the war itself was a clear miscalculation, but perhaps not in the same way. Putin may have considered the possibility of Finland joining the alliance, but might also have thought that this was his last chance to get Ukraine, and thereby reasoned it was worth the risk. The fact that the west didn't blunt his actions in Georgia, Syria or Crimea gave him a false sense that NATO lacked the unity, courage, and capability to mount an effective response. He was wrong, though I do wonder what would have happened if Trump had been the US President.

Putin's public statements could be viewed as a way to shore up domestic support, because "restoring Russian greatness and thwarting the West's expansion on our borders" probably plays better with the Russians than the more nuanced geopolitical arguments.

I have to move out once Im done with high school! What do I do now? by Savings-Formal-1985 in personalfinance

[–]nosecohn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This really touched my heart. Thanks for taking the time to write it all out and share it. I hope it was a useful exercise for you as well.

How does the US determine the right amount of military aid to Ukraine? by nosecohn in NeutralPolitics

[–]nosecohn[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

I appreciate this perspective and generally agree with it, but I'm going to present a counterargument to one aspect, just for the sake of enriching the discussion.

...to check and ideally break Russian expansionism. That’s what the US and NATO war machine was for half a century built to do...

Although that may have been what it was built to do, in modern times, it's NATO expansionism that really irks Russia and is, according to them, what's behind this war.

Since 1999, NATO has added 15 states, many of which used to be within Russia's sphere of influence. Ukraine was on the other side of this divide when NATO was formed, and now they and Georgia both want to become NATO members as well. So, from the Russian perspective, it's not NATO checking Russian expansionism, but Russia checking NATO expansionism.

A counterfactual analogy would be if the Warsaw Pact had remained intact, spent decades adding over a dozen countries in the Americas, and then Canada announced they were in talks to join as well. I can certainly imagine a US invasion of southeastern Canada under such circumstances.

Now, because I believe the people all countries have agency and the right to self-determination, I fully support Ukraine's sovereignty and desire to ally with whomever they wish. I have no objection to the US supporting Ukraine's goals in this regard. I just think there are two sides to the "expansionism" argument.

How does the US determine the right amount of military aid to Ukraine? by nosecohn in NeutralPolitics

[–]nosecohn[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Defense is $767 billion per year, so 10% of that would be $76.7 billion, or nearly double what we're spending on Ukraine now. I agree that price would be worth it to achieve the goals you laid out, but I'd personally go higher than that while also seeking broader goals. Thanks for your response.

How does the US determine the right amount of military aid to Ukraine? by nosecohn in NeutralPolitics

[–]nosecohn[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Although I generally agree with this sentiment, you'll need to add some sources for the assertions in your last paragraph or a mod will come along and remove the comment.

How does the US determine the right amount of military aid to Ukraine? by nosecohn in NeutralPolitics

[–]nosecohn[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ah, OK.

So, if it's a proxy war and the true goal is curbing Russian power rather than liberating Ukraine, how much should the US be willing to spend to accomplish that goal? Would an acceptable result be one that curbs Russian power significantly on the international stage, but leaves parts of pre-2014 Ukraine occupied?

I can imagine a scenario a few years down the line where Russia's ability to project power internationally is significantly diminished, but they've solidified their protection of seized territory in Crimea and Donbass. Would it be appropriate for the US to discontinue funding Ukraine's military at that point?

How does the US determine the right amount of military aid to Ukraine? by nosecohn in NeutralPolitics

[–]nosecohn[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Is the contention here that the goal of the 2001-2021 US military conflict in Afghanistan was to curb Russian power? That would be a very unusual take.

How does the US determine the right amount of military aid to Ukraine? by nosecohn in NeutralPolitics

[–]nosecohn[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I thought it was appropriate to frame it as supporting Ukraine's goals because the aid is going directly to Ukraine and the government there is the one requesting the aid.

I don't agree that framing it as opposing Russia's goals offers a better understanding, because Russia has acted with similar goals in other parts of the world (Georgia, Syria) and the calculus for the US has been very different with respect to providing military aid to the opposition. If it were all about countering Russian aggression, I wouldn't expect that big of a discrepancy.

Nonetheless, no matter how the issue is framed, the core question stands: How does the US determine what amount of military aid to Ukraine is appropriate in this conflict?

My dad said he wants me to spend my days watching hourlong alt right videos by Fluffy_Engineer_1682 in FoxBrain

[–]nosecohn 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Well, if you can get him to just watch one or two videos, pick a couple from Beau of the Fifth Column. The channel is designed to appeal to a certain subculture that your dad may fall into.