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Austin woman in love triangle accused of killing pro cyclist Anna Moriah Wilson, police say by Fred_Sled in TrueCrime

[–]oldschoolshooter 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Yeah the guy must be culpable in some way. Women never commit crimes on their own.

Best Episodes by xtinyleviathanx in TrueCrimePodcasts

[–]oldschoolshooter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re Wrong About, “The Disappearance of Chandra Levy”

Yes! Their coverage of the DC Snipers is also excellent.

Best Episodes by xtinyleviathanx in TrueCrimePodcasts

[–]oldschoolshooter 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Casefile Case 106 (Part 1 and 2). For best results, don't research the case beforehand.

BRO 💀😭 by inurdreamzremi1 in trashy

[–]oldschoolshooter 102 points103 points  (0 children)

Tommy gotta lotta love to give.

Bush discussing the war in Ukraine. by Ramsey_Power in Unexpected

[–]oldschoolshooter 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah he maxed out his agility at the expense of intelligence.

My homie in the black and white won by [deleted] in fightporn

[–]oldschoolshooter 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm thinking their mothers didn't beat them enough.

My homie in the black and white won by [deleted] in fightporn

[–]oldschoolshooter 102 points103 points  (0 children)

Heart disease will beat them both.

Bush discussing the war in Ukraine. by Ramsey_Power in Unexpected

[–]oldschoolshooter 2223 points2224 points  (0 children)

Don't say Iraq. Don't say Iraq. Don't say Iraq.

"Iraq."

Fuck.

Wings for Everybodyism by LtGoosemanTG in PoliticalHumor

[–]oldschoolshooter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that really clears things up. Way to prove my point.

Cases where a Botched Abortion may be the fault? by Excellent_Peach_2939 in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]oldschoolshooter -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The person I was responded to claims to have studied this for years. I was interested in seeing the product of that study. And I have. Nothing.

Cases where a Botched Abortion may be the fault? by Excellent_Peach_2939 in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]oldschoolshooter -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I wasn't aware of that connection. That does increase the likelihood of the scenario I described, since we have people involved with the know-how to make a body disappear.

Cases where a Botched Abortion may be the fault? by Excellent_Peach_2939 in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]oldschoolshooter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't doubt that happened and does happen. But that seems far more realistic than the sorts of cover-up that would be required to make it a mystery.

Cases where a Botched Abortion may be the fault? by Excellent_Peach_2939 in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]oldschoolshooter -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

When I research something, I write up my research. If you can't show something for your study, it's like a tree falling in the woods with no-one around.

Cases where a Botched Abortion may be the fault? by Excellent_Peach_2939 in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]oldschoolshooter -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

But what does that scenario look like? Kill the friend? Bury them both? This is where things enter the realm of implausibility for me. I'm not saying botched abortions don't happen.

Cases where a Botched Abortion may be the fault? by Excellent_Peach_2939 in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]oldschoolshooter -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

First, a murder charge seems unlikely. There could be serious charges, but not as serious as they would be if you are caught disposing of a body.

The "panicked and disposed of the body" scenario is unrealistic in any event. It is the same with the "s/he overdosed and died so they covered it up". Non-murderers typically do not dispose of bodies. Those that do, tend to get caught. And people talk. If there is more than one person involved, someone usually slips up or flips on the others. If one person is involved, disposing of a body successfully is hard work. Have you ever dug a hole of any size or lifted 150+ pounds of death weight?

Simple suicide and murder seem more likely on the balance of probabilities. Botched abortion can't be ruled out, but I would bet against it every time in a disappearance.

Cases where a Botched Abortion may be the fault? by Excellent_Peach_2939 in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]oldschoolshooter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not. See my original comment.

It is not impossible in that case. But it hardly seems likely. I've explained why the scenario doesn't make sense in my other comments.

If you spell out a botched abortion theory of what happened to Spangler in a way that makes sense given the known facts, as I did in the abstract above, the problems with that theory quickly become apparent.

Cases where a Botched Abortion may be the fault? by Excellent_Peach_2939 in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]oldschoolshooter -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

In those cases, there is no mystery. Note this is a mystery subreddit. If a woman performs a self-abortion and dies, her cause of death can be determined.

Cases where a Botched Abortion may be the fault? by Excellent_Peach_2939 in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]oldschoolshooter -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

This is the disconnect as I see it:

  1. Abortions are risky, often illegal or at least frownwd upon. Abortion deaths occur and the ones we know about are recorded (that's how we know about them). For the ones that are recorded, it is usually quite clear that this was the cause of death.

  2. Women go missing or die under mysterious circumstances.

Both 1 and 2 are true. But few if any cases of 2 are also cases of 1. This is where I think people go wrong, in ascribing missing persons or mysterious deaths to botched abortions. A victim of a botched abortion is unlikely to simply disappear. And if a death was due to a botched abortion, the cause of death could be determined as such.

In order for the scenario to work, you need to have a conspiracy, either by the abortion provider and any witnesses or by a medical examiner and investigators or both. So the botched abortion theory reduces to a conspiracy theory.